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First of I would like to say thanks to this forum.
I try not to post any problems that have already been answered and this forum was a big help in getting my xda unlocked.
However I had only had my phone in working condition for 2 weeks, enough time to start to like it, when it fell and cracked.
I ordered a new glass screen (no bleeding ink) and had it overnighted. I sucessfully swapped out the broken scree, but in the process I screwed up the phone. So here is whats going on with it, if anyone can help me out it would be awesome.
When taking it apart I accidently broke 2 of the connectors for the ribbon cables on the back of the pcb. Now the phone wont turn on. The screen comes up but its just white and I cant tell if the os is loading.
Sorry for the long winded post
Thanks for the help
Chris
Also if this cant be fixed whats my best option, selling it broken or parting it out? How much could i get?
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beggy said:
When taking it apart I accidently broke 2 of the connectors for the ribbon cables on the back of the pcb. Now the phone wont turn on. The screen comes up but its just white and I cant tell if the os is loading.
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Well, I guess it depends on how broken the connectors are, but this definitely doesn't sound good...
If you post a few close-up pictures, I'll tell you if there's any hope for fixing it.
Well..
One of those 3 connectors lead to the screen.
My wild guess would be that it's not porperly connected since it's borken.
In that case, I would have done one of two things:
1. Buy a connector through an electronics component vendor, then ,manually replace the broken one or have a electronics lab do it for me.
2. Solder the wires to the connector's base manually (or in a lab) to over-ride it. (I hope you understand what I mean).
At any case, my guess would be a broken connection somewhere in the connectors (one of the 3). This can probably be fixed that way or another.
BTW - I have a lot of dust between the glass and the screen. How do you remove the glass from the screen (it seems to be attached firmly somehow)??
To take the glass apart from the lcd, there are 4 metal tabs (2 at the top and 2 on the bottom) you can pry a thin flat-head screwdriver between the metal tabs (you will see what I am talking about, when you look closer). It will sound bad but its just the glue coming apart.
I tried to get the connectors but had no luck finding a match.
So I am going to part out the phone.
Ill be posting the ebay auctions for the lcd screen, the new glass piece, the motherboard, the battery/case and whatever misc accesories I have lying around.
Before I put all the parts on ebay, I figured I would give the people on here a crack at it. I will entertain all reasonable offers. Send me a PM.
Here is what I have for sale
Case in good condition w/ battery
Motherboard - in good condition just missing the two plastic pieces where the lcd connects.
Brand new glass touchscreen/digitizer
Lcd Screen
Also for sale the in-wall charger, the sync cradle with an extra 3 stylus (styli?).
Does the innards from the T-Mobile version of the TD2 fit in the original Diamond2 housing.
Its something I'm thinking of doing...and would like to know if its been done or possible at all.
That would be an interesting project, hope you try it out. They only thing that I could think of not fitting is the speaker, which on the MDA is on the side of the device.
EDIT: Scratch that, the MDA also is on the side. It looks like it could work, but the only porblem looks to be the bottom of the phone, which is much curvier
You will need to purchase a touch screen digitizer if you try this. It is attached to the housing and impossible to remove without damage. Also, when removing the digitizer and other ribbon cables, remember to slide the little black peice slightly to remove it. Very tricky, but I have completely taken the topaz apart numerous times. P.M. me if you run into any snags..... although I don't recommend trying the switch unless you have experience in electronics. Good Luck!
tomtommy306 said:
You will need to purchase a touch screen digitizer if you try this. It is attached to the housing and impossible to remove without damage. Also, when removing the digitizer and other ribbon cables, remember to slide the little black peice slightly to remove it. Very tricky, but I have completely taken the topaz apart numerous times. P.M. me if you run into any snags..... although I don't recommend trying the switch unless you have experience in electronics. Good Luck!
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I don't have experience! But its never held me back before. At the moment I'm having problems locating a full housing including the front and side buttons..the only housing I can find are without buttons....I was thinking of buying a dummy for the buttons...don't know if thats viable.
Be sure to tell us how it went, and any special steps/problems you encounter.
Although, it really does look more like a cheap LG phone than a Nokia, except for maybe the 5800.
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I don't have experience! But its never held me back before. At the moment I'm having problems locating a full housing including the front and side buttons..the only housing I can find are without buttons....I was thinking of buying a dummy for the buttons...don't know if thats viable.
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Ebay! Or try CNN.CN for a more expensive approach.
They even sell a full black housing with the matt black if you want to be different.
http://cnn.cn/shop/t5353-touch-diamond2-topaz-c-277_829.html
CNN.Cn doesn't have the buttons included either
i too want to try it, but encountered the problem of the buttons... No housing is sold with the buttons. For the rest i can't see any difficulties, the Inside of the Compact V and the Topaz should be the same, i mean, will HTC manifacture a complete new phone just for T-mobile? I think just the housing is different.
When i find a way, i'll contact you!
I found one supplier....they include the front buttons but do not include the volume or power buttons
http://www.truesupplier.com/original-full-housing-cover-for-htc-touch-diamond-2-pr-18539.html
EDIT: Sorry it does include all the buttons as well as the front keys.....so ordered everything ...just waiting now
Topaz Antenna
does anyone know where I can I get the topaz antenna from ?
Received my casing today....but need the antenna.....the Compact V antenna is integrated into lower back of the casing as one piece....so its of no use
Dang, that sucks, I have searched for the antenna before, but haven't found any. Maybe try a broken TD2 on ebay or something. Other than that I have no idea
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Dang, that sucks, I have searched for the antenna before, but haven't found any. Maybe try a broken TD2 on ebay or something. Other than that I have no idea
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Well thats the only missing piece in the jigsaw.....so if/when I get it I will update the thread....in the mean time, if anyone knows where I can get this or make one up....its looks all plastic with 2 connectors...the connectors I have.
Do anyone has video or pdf or wtever guide to give the instruction how to disassemble the flyer?(i am thinking to repair the flyer myself) Thank you
Here you go:
www.techrepublic.com/photos/crackin...3?seq=2&tag=content;siu-container#photo-frame
thx, but i have 1 more question, do u know how to remove the digitizer? is it the same way as other smartphone?(use hot gun and remove the digitizer?)
athris said:
thx, but i have 1 more question, do u know how to remove the digitizer? is it the same way as other smartphone?(use hot gun and remove the digitizer?)
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Yes, there is a note in the techrepublic teardown about it being bonded like a smartphone. You should however be vary careful given the size of the screen more heat (not temperature) is required, and the risk of thermally cracking the underlying LCD panel is correspondingly higher.
Beware! Learn from my adventures.
So, I took apart my wife's HTC Flyer this past week to replace the screen. While the Techrepublic teardown shots are helpful, it's missing about ten steps at the end that involve actually removing the screen. I've messed around with tabletpc's and laptops before but not cell phones so wasn't really prepared for the fact that you have to pretty much take the whole Flyer apart in order to be able to get the screen off. As far as I can tell, no one else has documented taking one of these apart to replace the screen. I will write up something more involved when I get a chance but here's a couple things that I found out about the screen.
1. The part of the screen that you touch with your finger and stylus is not glass! It is a heavy plastic layer that is adhered to the glass digitizer. It is clear with the black around the edge and cutout for the HTC logo. This was the part of my screen that had chips in it. I tried to use a screen repair kit to repair the chips (which I did) but it took off the outer, darker finish in the process. So I moved to the next step, replacing the screen. I didn't know about the outer layer, otherwise that would have been much easier to replace. But, I don't think you can get that part unless you have connections with HTC.
2. The outer layer/digitizer glass comes as one part (along with the n-trig connector). I ordered mine for around $50 on ebay.
3. You will need to take the back off and much of the motherboard to be able to disconnect the n-trig connector.
4. Taking the screen off will take heat. I used a hair dryer but more heat could be better although you have to be careful of the lcd underneath. My digitizer broke while removing and ending up putting a small gouge in the lcd. I was able to fix the lcd well enough, just be careful.
5. HTC used a buttload of sticky tape to secure the glass to the lcd and case. My cheap blue pry tool quickly broke so I ended up using a plastic butter knife to separate digitizer from the case. Once off, I used Goo Be Gone to get rid of all the sticky tape from it. I'm ready to put new tape on but I'm not sure exactly what they used. Anyone have any ideas? It's a black, closed cell sticky tape that is really stringy when it comes to taking off. Most of the stuff I see for sale online seems to be really thin stuff. I picked up some Scotch Outdoor Mounting Tape by 3M that looks to be similar that I am going to experiment with. Anyone know for sure what they used?
6. I put the new digitizer on temporarily to check to see if it worked and it did (yay)! But I still need need to cut all of the tape and put it in the right spot. There are also these little plastic tabs that go on the backside of the screen. They are used to refract light from the led's to light up the outside navigation buttons. Be careful not to lose these. I did, and had to make one. We'll see how I did once I get it back together.
7. I found that there's not a lot of parts out there for these things. At least not compared to cell phones. Now that they're being discontinued, I don't know if that is going to help.
Anyway, I took a few pics along the way and will try to write something up when I get more time. I just wanted to give folks a heads-up on the screen and how it's put together. I can't imagine the View's screen is any different. So whatever they're using for the outer layer isn't Gorilla Glass. Or is it?
UPDATE:
Here are the promised photos of this disaster. I'll add the commentary tomorrow (I'm tired).
Two more comments and I can finally upload my photos.
I need to replace my LCD and Glass...anyone know where I can order these parts...I cant find them anywhere.
Hard to find parts for the Flyer/View which could be a problem. Looks like some is selling an LCD, though on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PH-LCD-HT-2...360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bf8f0390 from my PG41200 using Tapatalk
I purchased mine here and it works great.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260906551668?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Much better price. What kind of tape did you use? Also did you have to replace any of the light reflacting plastic tabs that are used to light the buttons around the outside of the digitizer?
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Will a replacement screen for the Flyer work well on a View?
I don't see why not. Except for some of the internals, they are pretty much identical hardware wise.
Maybe I can save someone else the trouble, or maybe everyone else already knows this, but... I really like the OEM Samsung flip case that comes in a few colors and replaces the back cover of the phone, keeping it very sleek and protecting the screen. I have discovered that even though sellers (Amazon & eBay, but I'm sure not Samsung) say that it will fit models i717 and N7000, there is a distinct difference.
I have bought 2 that had to be returned because they did not fit my AT&T model. The way to tell them apart is the plastic plate on the inside of the back cover with 2 little metal dots. This is the AT&T model. If the dots are missing, it's the N7000 model. The clips that hold the back cover on are slightly different on the 2 models and one won't fit the other. It is otherwise impossible to tell from the outside which is which.
I couldn't find a photo of the one with the dots (and too lazy to take one), but this is the one without.
Those dots have a purpose...The black sticker (white sticker if white cover), is the NFC antenna. That's how you know it's for the AT&T version.
Kraize said:
Those dots have a purpose...The black sticker (white sticker if white cover), is the NFC antenna. That's how you know it's for the AT&T version.
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I wondered about that. I saw another thread mentioning antenna and thought that might be it. Thanks for clarifying.
Yeah, np.
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As an aside, I purchased this about a month ago thinking it would work with my i717:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BLACK-A...I&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=812258500406918077
It didnt, but I was able to retro fit it with an exacto knife. Had to cut off two tabs completely and halve another four. Its completely secure. Just wish they made this for the i717.
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As an aside, I purchased this about a month ago thinking it would work with my i717:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BLACK-A...I&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=812258500406918077
It didnt, but I was able to retro fit it with an exacto knife. Had to cut off two tabs completely and halve another four. Its completely secure. Just wish they made this for the i717.
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What about the lack of an antenna?
With the right tools and trimming you could make it fit but it will not fit out of the box. It will not be as secure as one made for the i717
ferrisUML said:
As an aside, I purchased this about a month ago thinking it would work with my i717:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BLACK-A...I&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=812258500406918077
It didnt, but I was able to retro fit it with an exacto knife. Had to cut off two tabs completely and halve another four. Its completely secure. Just wish they made this for the i717.
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This case is nice at first but there are few issues I ran into after using them. First issue is that if you get the white cover which looks nice and clean, using for few weeks the inside fabric part gets dirty fast. Second, the gummy like glue or whatever it is called which holds the front side leather and the inner side fabric together falls apart in few weeks as well so case gets ruined and sticky so wouldnt want to use it any longer. One last thing is that if you happen to drop the phone by an accident, before it lands, the cover opens up so big possibility that your screen will hit the floor and also want to mention that the back cover actually comes off the phone (the case really is crappy when phone drops). I think the only pro part is that it is very thin (probably the thinnest flip cover case). For all the cons, using about 30bucks is not worth it in my opinion.
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Hi there,
for Years i'm reading here silently and i never register myself.
I'm German and i hope that my english is well enough that you can understand my Questions.
I have a Question, not about Software for Samsung S8, so that's the Point for me to register here.
Hope that is the right Place in this Forum for my Question.
In the Future i plan to buy a S8 second hand. My Money is small so the most second hand S8 are in need of repair (Frontglas & Backcovers). Nothing what a Human with skills can handle. But i want to mod the S8 on the Side of Hardware.
Here is my Question:
Is it possible to make a Backcover from Aluminium and to use it instead of Glascover?
My thinking is to get a Originalcover and then to rebuild one from Aluminium (Thin it must be). CNC, or Lasercut for the precision.
I've googled many hours in the Hope to find something like this, but nothing.
So i want to ask you.
I think a Backcover from Alu ist not so breakable as Glas, more stable, but is it to realize without elektrical Danger to Part of the Phone.
I don't like the Cases & Bumpers & so on. I want to make my Phone more personal.
Are my thoughts crazy, or not? What do you think?
Hope my thread here is ok and do not conflict with the Forumrules. Sorry if that happens, but otherwise i will be thankfull for an answer or discussion about this Topic.
Greets to all outhere...
Interesting idea! Personally I would go with a skin like dbrand or slikwrap even if the glass is broken. Personal look and you don't lose any wireless functionality
Make sure that you remove the wireless charging coil before this!
Aluminium Backcover-Possible or not
Hi there,
i'm living in a relativ small Town in Northern Germany, but i hope i can find some
Manufacturers that can realize my idea. Maybe i must give an Order to some Firma over Google, or so.
To j91hernandez:
Can you give me eventually some links to the products. In Germany there are unknown, i think. I want to take a look on it.
I ask myself: is a Alu-BC thick enough to protect the Phone like the Glas-BC?
Or must can i use a Metall-BC instead Alu? I don't know.
The other thing is: you must remove the Original-BC to apply the, maybe stronger, Mod-BC. But if the S8 has no Guarantee you can make it like you wish.
Glas-Cover looks great, but i've seen so much broken S8s to buy in Ebay-Second Hand Shop, so i wondering, why nobody change the BC of the Phone to avoid the use of Cases, etc.
With a well designed Metall / Alu-BC it must be better, i think. Maybe you can make it less slippery for your Hands, too.
But: is there Dangers for electrical Parts of the Phone, i mean short circuit between Parts? In wich Way it affects the NFC Functions, etc.?
Maybe try & error! I'm willing to do so if i have the Money to buy a S8. So i try to get any Infos about that Projectidea.
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Make sure that you remove the wireless charging coil before this!
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That's a Point! The Function of the Phone shall be at 100%, so i think i must look and read about Phones with Metall-BC AND Wireless Charging how they doing it.
There would be a chance the metal backing by witch one would have to possibly custom make curves and all. But may dampen WiFi bluetooth and wireless signals. Anything other than plastic glass or aluminum I would imagine would interfere with wireless charging as well. Absorbing or warping the magnetic field
But I would say if a man could bend the edges properly a hand held rotary tool would more than likely suffice to do all edging and cutouts for various sensors. I have had to make due with home made metal object before but precision be on this is a must. As water resistance is more than like gone with the wind on this mod.....
Which I support fully
HoosierDaddy said:
There would be a chance the metal backing by witch one would have to possibly custom make curves and all. But may dampen WiFi bluetooth and wireless signals. Anything other than plastic glass or aluminum I would imagine would interfere with wireless charging as well. Absorbing or warping the magnetic field
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I agree with this
A plastic back would make much more sense as it would bend easier than metal for the corners while allowing for wireless charging and not causing any kind of electrical shorting issues.
zoroarctic said:
I agree with this
A plastic back would make much more sense as it would bend easier than metal for the corners while allowing for wireless charging and not causing any kind of electrical shorting issues.
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Hi there,
ok, Plastic-Cover is another idea to think about.
But it looks not so good as Alu, or Metall. Hm, maybe th use of a Skin can make the Optic cooler than. Another Sideeffekt is that the Plastik is covered then against big sctratches. No Danger for short circuits then and hopefully no problems with wireless charging and so on.
To Build such an BC is easier, right. Bending and cut out the Holes, that's all what we can make ourselves (if you are not Double-Lefthanded).
Thanks for the Input. Will think about that and trying it if i have my S8 in the Future.
A Fullbody-Cover protects the Phone completly (Front+Back), but on the other Side it is more thicker, unhandy. Often the Buttons are not good to press, and such things.
if you insist on aluminium/metal, then you are going to have to give up some functionalities. otherwise, plastics would be your only option. wood might be a viable option too, however durability would be an issue with the material.
imho though, you mentioned that you have limited money and if you're going to get an aluminium/metal/wood back cover machined by someone, it's going to cost more than you would think. replacement glass are way cheaper and as the other user suggested, you have vinyl wraps to get the look that you want