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Anyone managed to leave a screen protector on for more than 24hrs without cracking and peeling it off? Every now and again I buy one and try again but it never lasts - just doesnt feel right. Thus might be an irrelevant post but I've just done it again for the 4th time and I'm begining to feel ocd about the whole thing and I'm looking for re-assurance
We "need" screen protectors so that the companies that make them can make more money.
I've never seen a screen protector do anything useful. In fact, I've seen just as many phones with broken screens with screen protectors as without.
<---Used to be a cell phone sales monkey
Only difference I noticed so far is that it does not get dirty so fast and the protector is easier to clean than display itself. So it is good for lazy people
uh, screen protectors prevent scratches to the screen...they're not made to protect against cracks due to dropping the device or some such thing.
I've used a screen protector on a device for over a year before with no problems. I can't imagine how a screen protector could possibly crack though, unless it was just total crap material.
OMG I carried my TyTN around in the nasty carry case for 2 weeks before i bought a screen protector. Aslong as you buy a good one you will NEVER notice it and prevent MANY unsightly scratches being on your screen.
@cdyat which screen protector did you try?!?
They Suck
I used a screen saver on my Wizard and hermes, After updating my Hermes 8525 to Black 2.0 I could not figure out why I had to tap so damn hard on the lower left hand side of the screen, sometimes it would just make my calendar go nuts, I thought it was the Rom update, I turned the Pocket PC off and took off the screen saver and now it runs sooo sweet
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OMG I carried my TyTN around in the nasty carry case for 2 weeks before i bought a screen protector. Aslong as you buy a good one you will NEVER notice it and prevent MANY unsightly scratches being on your screen.
@cdyat which screen protector did you try?!?
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Keep replacing it with the standard tytn one - better suggestions are welcome
Fourgig said:
uh, screen protectors prevent scratches to the screen...they're not made to protect against cracks due to dropping the device or some such thing.
I've used a screen protector on a device for over a year before with no problems. I can't imagine how a screen protector could possibly crack though, unless it was just total crap material.
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Its not the screen protector that cracks. Its me!! I see bubbles, the screen feels unresponsive and I worry about if the adhesive will come off ok. Guess I need a firmer grip on reality
SP (Screen Protector) quality differs. I have had a Palm before which I bought some cheap sales SP for £2 for 10 pieces, that never last, in fact, the SP itself got scratches all over. Then later, I bought one at eBay, which said to be good, relatively cheap, £5 for 2, that is not good either. THEN, after I read one of the thread here, upon the members recommendation, I bought one from Brando, for £7, that WORKS. Not only it is easy to apply (it feels like a card, which makes it easy to get rid of bubbles), it so clear that it is as good as the screen without a SP. However, I do find that the SP is much reflective than the screen.
Anyway, SP is there so that IF things happens, your screen get protected (from scratch). No, SP don't protect your screen from being smashed. Anyway, you may not know it, but from my experience, I do find some hard residue (while writing with my stylus) on my screen if I don't clean the screen as often. I suspect those may came from the fact that I use my finger to operate the phone most of the time, and also probably, dust/particles get stick to your face (which got transferred to the screen when you answer the phone) in the windy UK.
I would recommend others to get a SP, that is like £7 protection against a £50 (?) price drop on your sale price if your screen get scratched (thats one of my main concern when buying one). Do a search on this forum, the thread on SP recommendation has also recommend another brand too, which I can't remember.
As those who have experienced bad SP, do tell us the brand of the SP that you've bought. So as others can avoid.
I use the martin fields screen protector, sooo worth it. The screen is no less readable and the styles is just as responsive as it was before the SP.
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Pocket PC Techs make great protectors. They cost a lot but last months...plus they can be rinsed and re applied.
I'm using a screen protector on my 8525. I haven't cracked yet despite a couple of small bubbles.. But.. They're worth their weight in gold. Having scratched the displays on my 8125 and my hx4705 prior to getting screen protectors on them, I made sure when I got hte 8525 one right away.
I use the Boxwave Antiglare.. Love it.. Love the feel of it too, by comparison to the regular screen.. No issues with tapping or anything either..
I'm using the one that came with my 8525. I can tell you that my last phone/pda has scratches all over the screen from hours of playing solitair. There is also a small scratched spot in the upper right corner of the screen from tapping to close programs over the course of 2 years. I think I'll be keeping a protector on this one.
Total waste of money...
I have carried a PDA with me every day since the first USR Palm Pilot, and had a mobile phone since they were the size and weight of a brick, and I have never ever managed to scratch the screen on either.
My wife managed to smash the plastic screen cover on her Nokia once, but a "screen protector" wouldn't have helped that. Keep it in a case when not in use I say.
I tried a "screen protector" once, (someone gave me as a gift). Horrible. Why not just use a comdom on your stylis?
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I tried a "screen protector" once, (someone gave me as a gift). Horrible. Why not just use a comdom on your stylis?
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Thanks for sharing your secret Need some for my fingers too.
I like the ones from shieldzone, been using them on my last few devices.
I'm a screen protector believer, BUT they really vary. I prefer the glossy style vs the non-glare/matt finish types as the matt versions seem to make the display harder to see in bright conditions and are harder to clean.
For the Hermes, I like the Boxwave "Crystal" version. It was like $12 for one or 20ish for 3. It's virtually invisible, no bubbles, and the glossy surface is very easy to clean
I am using Boxwave Antiglare. The display is readable and I have noticed improvement in readability in direct sunlight (although it sucks anyway). Also I like the feeling of the screen protector better when working with stylus (somebody told it resembles paper which I do not agree but it definitely is something different than plain display). Also it does not show fingerprints. And well, as with everything else you get what you pay for.
www.boxwave.com, i've had mine on since the second i opened it, and its crystal clear. I used to have an old sony ericson p800, and after using it for a few years i noticed that near the bottom where i write it got very scratched up. Plus sometimes i put my phon ein my pocket with my keys, the last thing i want is to have a huge scratch on my screen.
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www.boxwave.com, i've had mine on since the second i opened it, and its crystal clear. I used to have an old sony ericson p800, and after using it for a few years i noticed that near the bottom where i write it got very scratched up. Plus sometimes i put my phon ein my pocket with my keys, the last thing i want is to have a huge scratch on my screen.
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I second the boxwave screen protectors, although I prefer the anti-glare one to the crystal clear one. It makes the TyTN screen 100x easier to read under florescent lighting. It's also very 'slick' so the stylus glides just as easily as on the real screen.
As long as you follow the instructions and put it on carefully, you won't have any bubbles or distortion. You can't even tell it's there.
InvisibleShield/ShieldZone makes a super strong screen protector, but I didn't like it too much because it was sort of 'sticky' on the stylus. It made it weird to write things on the screen (which I rarely do).
A screen protector is pretty important; your screen isn't made out of glass on the top layer -- that's just a thin layer of rather fragile plastic. If you gouge it on accident, your screen is toast, and that's a $250 USD repair.
Well, for the benefit of the community, I thought it'd be nice to share my experiences with some screen covers.
I received the phone from a friend with ghost armor on it, but it had some indentations and weird spots on it so I went to the kiosk to have it reapplied for $5. I turned on the phone, and there is a big piece of dirt AND a hair under the screen, pissed me off because I had to go all the way back to the mall to get it reapplied again. The second time it seemed alright, but liquid "hazing" he said would go away never went away, which was also angering. I ordered ZAGG invisible shield, since they were having a 75% off sale for screen only. They sent me one, but it was really odd. They sent me one that was cut to cover the buttons, which makes no sense because the buttons aren't touch sensitive, you have to press them, which would cause air bubbles and deformations in the cover. Sure enough it did, I don't know why they designed it to cover the buttons, which aren't level with the screen at all times. I did my best to just cut the bottom portion off so it wouldn't cover the buttons. It worked enough, it doesn't look pretty, with pretty jagged edges, but at least the screen area itself has no irregularities. There are still a couple of vertical scratch marks I can see on a white screen, from the squeegee i'm guessing, so I'm hoping that those will go away in the next few days.
The whole screen protector covering the buttons also caused some issues with the liquid solution getting into the phone, and my home key stopped working for a few hours, but it seems to have come back, I was panicking there for a bit.
I had a ZAGG invisible shield on my g1 before it finally gave out, and ghost armor seemed to scratch easily, I always got dents and malformations imprinted on it within a few days. With the invisible shield I can take a key to it, and it won't scratch. I actually did this with my g1 as a demonstration. I think they have modified the material to glide more smoothly since my g1, so it's not AS resistant, but I'm pretty sure it'll be stronger than ghost armor was.
If you DO get invisibleshield though, cut the bottom off to make it flat, it will screw up your buttons otherwise. Also, with my experience and others' that I have read, applying it yourself ends up being better quality.
As for the "orange peel" thing, you can see it if you look at the reflection, but I can't feel it. That might be because I play guitar and have thick calluses on my fingertips, but I don't notice it when I touch the screen.
Ghost armor seemed to be better resistant to skin oils and smudges as well. My experience has been better with ZAGG though.
Personally I use the Mirrored Finish protector from Wireless Emporium online and after 4 months I simply clean it a couple times a week when I'm bored. Though I do have a clear one on order from them because the Mirrored Finish does darken the screen some and causes some refraction issues with some colors. I'm fairly rough with my phone and have no scratches after about 4 months of use. It is fairly fingerprint resistant but I do have kids and get odd stuff on my hands now and again.
Oh, and the protectors here don't overlay the buttons on the bottom at all.
kudos on the zagg shield i work at best buy and use that cover on my stuff. i just got a generic cover and cut out to match the screen of my slide but yes it is good stuff
Does it really help to have a screen protector on STR? My nook is always inside a case, and always have some finger smudges on the screen, which does not interfere with reading the screen content.
Would it make the screen harder to use, such as in a resistive screen? I know it has IR technology, not resistive lcd, but it is good to know...
I have a screen protector, because I have cats and dogs who're lurking around my nook, and I'd hate to see them scratch the screen. I'm not using any case for it. The film does not affect the touch sensitivity in any way...
thanks for the info, emarusceac.
I can see dogs and cats and stuff being a problem. I just have an old NC sleeve laying around that works. If you can stand the wait, ebay is cheap Turns out the NC and NST width is the same...
emarusceac,
what sort of screen protector are you using?
Hi mh127,
I'm using a basic anti-glare screen film from ebay.
The nst is the first touch screen I have not used one on.
It is perfect now, the matte should hide small scratches, it gets used more lightly than phones/tablets, it is light (less damage if dropped), and it is cheap!
I am going to buy one.
I must warn you that it's VERY hard to apply it smoothly. I mean you'll get some air pouches caused by small particles, those bubbles won't go away no matter what you do. I prefer bubbles to permanent scratches though....
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I must warn you that it's VERY hard to apply it smoothly. I mean you'll get some air pouches caused by small particles, those bubbles won't go away no matter what you do. I prefer bubbles to permanent scratches though....
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I ordered one. Was concerned that it would be tough to apply because of the high frame around the screen. Any tips how to apply well? You use a credit card to smooth the film down over the screen?
Oh one more thing. Has anyone tried removing one? Does it change or damage the screen in any way?
I have had several different screen protectors on my NST and none of them caused any damage when I removed them. I would note though that I have read that you must not apply a screen protector to the Glowlight, something about the built in screen protector and its light guide properties. I would also point out the one reason my NST has had multiple screen protectors is because they are so hard to apply without getting bubbles/lint between the screen and the film. The film I have on now I finally got applied without any bubbles/lint in the reading area, so it will hopefully be on there for a while. Make sure you are working in a CLEAN area and take great pains to get it lined up straight before actually applying it to the screen.
The NST doesn't need a screen protector, it really wont do much for the device, but if you really feel like spending the money for it go ahead.
The NSTG already has a protector built in, putting an extra one on would be like putting on an extra pair of latex gloves. It'll offer a little more protection, but it can get to be quite frustrating in terms of lost control. It's advised not to bother with a protector for the NSTG.
Personally unless you know you're going to have your NST in reach of creatures with claws, or lose objects with sharp edges the protective screen will do little for you. Even in those cases it's possible the screen would merely lessen the damage done rather than prevent it out right.
In regards to the NSTG and it's pre-installed screen protector, has anyone actually removed it? I've read lots of reports of people complaining about minor scratches and finger pressure marks causing the light to become very strong on those parts, wondering if removing the screen protector would fix that or whether it's instead a problem with the screen.
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In regards to the NSTG and it's pre-installed screen protector, has anyone actually removed it? I've read lots of reports of people complaining about minor scratches and finger pressure marks causing the light to become very strong on those parts, wondering if removing the screen protector would fix that or whether it's instead a problem with the screen.
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They claim there is one, I claim they lie as there is no visible edge of one. If there was you wouldn't get the light flares from minor scratches. Adding one may protect the screen but no idea what it would do to the light guide properties of the screen. If you ever have to remove it I'd worry what would happen to the light guide layer.
Because gadgets capabilities/sppecs increase rapidly & prices drop fast too, unless it's expensive I forget about screen protectors if the device is cheapish (got mine cheap) & if it will be outdated in a couple of years. Specially if it's not an outdoor device like my phone. Or if the protector hampers speed / functionality to some degree. Also personally I rarely scratch tab screens unless it's a phone, my phones/tabs all have protectors put on from day one, but not doing my NTSG. YMMV.
So, after a week of use; I am starting to get little scratches on the glass of the watch. Anybody have any ideas on how I could get a decent screen protector for the watch? I know there aren't any perfectly sized ones for this device but maybe somebody here already found one that fits.
You may be getting real scratches on the screen, but be aware that the sapphire-coating on the TS also can appear scratched when it really is just marked. To clean those markings off takes some fairly serious buffing, but you might find the screen was not really scratched and comes out clean again.
There are no screen protectors currently available specifically cut to fit the TS. You could cut one yourself, maybe using that peel-off sticker it shipped with.
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I cut my own screen protector out of an old one (unused) that I had laying around. Turned out horrible.
It was the more rigid type and where the edge of the TrueSmart screen has a bevel the screen protector was just hanging out over it. It ended up collecting dirt and made it hard to access the back and menu swipe actions. I also considered cutting it back to only the actual screen portion but I figured that was just going to make those swipe actions even more miserable so I just tossed it.
My guess is that the only thing that would work would be one of the more flexible stretchable type screen protectors, not sure how well they would conform to the bevel on the glass though.
I've used both of these on both my G2s and G3s and want to share my findings. Feel free to share other brands and your results.
I carry my phones two ways. During work, they are in my shirt pockets where the only things rubbing on them are paper and the occasional dollar bills(between 6-14 hours a day). When not working, I place my phones in my front pocket with the screens facing each other. Keys and change will also be in that pocket. When I only have one phone, the screen faces my leg(between 2-4 hours average). I almost always have both phones at the same time.
iLoome Flex: This protector has a hardness rating of 8H. Despite that, it is flexible. I chose this first because I expected the flexibility to help dissipate any force applied to It. It did it's job well. Over a 6 month time period, it never chipped or cracked until I removed it, where it then basically crumbled to pieces during removal. The fit was good, not great. There was a gap around the edges, but that became a moot point once I put on my incipio case. I did not have any lifting issues like others have claimed. Installation was somewhat easy because of a taped hinged installation design to help figure out placement prior to removing the adhesive protection. There was still some difficulty due to it being smaller and trying to center the gaps while aligning the opening for the sensors. The feel of the glass wasn't as smooth as a bare screen and took some adjusting. In the end I preferred this because it allowed me to be more accurate in my selections and typing. I ended up removing it because after 6 months of use, the screen had become scuffed from use., which makes me question the hardness rating. That being said, I prefer the feel of this over a bare screen.
ZAGG: this protector has a hardness rating of 9H. There is very little play in regards to flexibility. The fit of this protector was superior with a very small gap which disappeared once a case was put on. Installation is the same as every other ZAGG protector, but this was the easiest I had ever done. Because of the great fit, it went on the first time and didn't need to squeegeed. Thinking I got lucky, I removed it and tried again with the same result. The feel of the protector is much slicker than the iLoome and dare I say, even the screen. It really feels like there isn't anything there. Since I've used It, however, the slickness has been a problem for me. I make more typing errors and accuracy has gone down the drain. When playing games like clash of clans where I can tap and hold, I get no response because my finger will almost always slide. It takes 2-3 deliberate tries before I get the desired response. In addition, I get A LOT of accidental screen presses from something as simple as scrolling through a page or feed. I have touch tracking on and the accuracy is off while using this protector by a millimeter or two. Sometimes, touches won't even register. This alone is almost enough to make me switch back to iLoome. After only a month, the screen still looks brand New. As for the actual protection, it was accidentally chipped by someone in an environment where it shouldn't have happened. Clearing away the chipped area resulted in smaller chips coming off. Once it was cleaned, it seemed like ther would be no other damage. Later that night, I dropped the phone about 3 1/2 feet flat on it's face. The raised edges of the case kept the screen from actually contacting the concrete. When I examined the phone, there was now a 1 1/2 inch hairline crack coming from the chip. It is barely noticeable and doesn't feel like it's there. No bubbles or lifted areas. I enabled developer options and tested touch across all areas of the chip and crack and found no loss of function and there was full responsiveness. This is still currently on my G3. I plan to keep it on for a while longer to see how it stands up to daily wear and tear.
I'll update as I continue to use the ZAGG and what I decide to use in the long run as well as other protectors I try out. Again, feel free to share your own experiences with these or other glass protectors.
Dropped my phone on its corner today. The crack spread across the screen. Still no effect on usage, but it wasn't a big or hard drop. It seems that once the ZAGG is chipped, it's shot.
I used an iCarez 0.2mm tempered glass screen protector on my G3. It was an easy install in the steamy bathroom and provides pretty good sensitivity, unless my fingers are really dry and cold.
It also smears really bad if your fingers are the least bit oily or greasy. Don't handle the phone after eating buttered popcorn. It claims to be olephobic, but maybe not so much.
Lastly, on my first airline flight with it, it cracked a couple of curves across the lower left. Nothing fell off. iCarez is sending me a replacement, but made sure to tell me that breaking it voids the warranty. It was in my pants pocket when it cracked. I might go with a tough plastic one next.
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I used an iCarez 0.2mm tempered glass screen protector on my G3. It was an easy install in the steamy bathroom and provides pretty good sensitivity, unless my fingers are really dry and cold.
It also smears really bad if your fingers are the least bit oily or greasy. Don't handle the phone after eating buttered popcorn. It claims to be olephobic, but maybe not so much.
Lastly, on my first airline flight with it, it cracked a couple of curves across the lower left. Nothing fell off. iCarez is sending me a replacement, but made sure to tell me that breaking it voids the warranty. It was in my pants pocket when it cracked. I might go with a tough plastic one next.
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Best advice ever! Always forget the steamy bathroom. Really does make a difference!
Have bnib 9h 0.3mm icarez true glass. Got as gift. Probably saving for when I sell the phone. Currently using icarez matte protector. I basically said ok I'll put on the tempered glass as soon as this plastic ones scratches. But no matter what this plastic one is not scratching at all. Kind of funny. What's everyones comment on screen sensitivity? I'm very concerned that using anything other than a regular protector that it's going to significantly decrease sensitivity to touch.
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I don't understand the G3 touch sensitivity at all. Mine seems sometimes to just be untouchable. I mean, like in Ingress, I will sometimes have to really bang on the button several times before it will register a press, then other times it is normal, for the same button. I am not at all sure this has anything to do with the glass protector though. Almost seems like lag.
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I used an iCarez 0.2mm tempered glass screen protector on my G3. It was an easy install in the steamy bathroom and provides pretty good sensitivity, unless my fingers are really dry and cold.
It also smears really bad if your fingers are the least bit oily or greasy. Don't handle the phone after eating buttered popcorn. It claims to be olephobic, but maybe not so much.
Lastly, on my first airline flight with it, it cracked a couple of curves across the lower left. Nothing fell off. iCarez is sending me a replacement, but made sure to tell me that breaking it voids the warranty. It was in my pants pocket when it cracked. I might go with a tough plastic one next.
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Forgot about that. The iLoome smudges like crazy. The ZAGG doesnt.
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I don't understand the G3 touch sensitivity at all. Mine seems sometimes to just be untouchable. I mean, like in Ingress, I will sometimes have to really bang on the button several times before it will register a press, then other times it is normal, for the same button. I am not at all sure this has anything to do with the glass protector though. Almost seems like lag.
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It appears to have the same issue the G2 had at launch. It was fixed with an update.
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I've used both of these on both my G2s and G3s and want to share my findings. Feel free to share other brands and your results.
I carry my phones two ways. During work, they are in my shirt pockets where the only things rubbing on them are paper and the occasional dollar bills(between 6-14 hours a day). When not working, I place my phones in my front pocket with the screens facing each other. Keys and change will also be in that pocket. When I only have one phone, the screen faces my leg(between 2-4 hours average). I almost always have both phones at the same time.
iLoome Flex: This protector has a hardness rating of 8H. Despite that, it is flexible. I chose this first because I expected the flexibility to help dissipate any force applied to It. It did it's job well. Over a 6 month time period, it never chipped or cracked until I removed it, where it then basically crumbled to pieces during removal. The fit was good, not great. There was a gap around the edges, but that became a moot point once I put on my incipio case. I did not have any lifting issues like others have claimed. Installation was somewhat easy because of a taped hinged installation design to help figure out placement prior to removing the adhesive protection. There was still some difficulty due to it being smaller and trying to center the gaps while aligning the opening for the sensors. The feel of the glass wasn't as smooth as a bare screen and took some adjusting. In the end I preferred this because it allowed me to be more accurate in my selections and typing. I ended up removing it because after 6 months of use, the screen had become scuffed from use., which makes me question the hardness rating. That being said, I prefer the feel of this over a bare screen.
ZAGG: this protector has a hardness rating of 9H. There is very little play in regards to flexibility. The fit of this protector was superior with a very small gap which disappeared once a case was put on. Installation is the same as every other ZAGG protector, but this was the easiest I had ever done. Because of the great fit, it went on the first time and didn't need to squeegeed. Thinking I got lucky, I removed it and tried again with the same result. The feel of the protector is much slicker than the iLoome and dare I say, even the screen. It really feels like there isn't anything there. Since I've used It, however, the slickness has been a problem for me. I make more typing errors and accuracy has gone down the drain. When playing games like clash of clans where I can tap and hold, I get no response because my finger will almost always slide. It takes 2-3 deliberate tries before I get the desired response. In addition, I get A LOT of accidental screen presses from something as simple as scrolling through a page or feed. I have touch tracking on and the accuracy is off while using this protector by a millimeter or two. Sometimes, touches won't even register. This alone is almost enough to make me switch back to iLoome. After only a month, the screen still looks brand New. As for the actual protection, it was accidentally chipped by someone in an environment where it shouldn't have happened. Clearing away the chipped area resulted in smaller chips coming off. Once it was cleaned, it seemed like ther would be no other damage. Later that night, I dropped the phone about 3 1/2 feet flat on it's face. The raised edges of the case kept the screen from actually contacting the concrete. When I examined the phone, there was now a 1 1/2 inch hairline crack coming from the chip. It is barely noticeable and doesn't feel like it's there. No bubbles or lifted areas. I enabled developer options and tested touch across all areas of the chip and crack and found no loss of function and there was full responsiveness. This is still currently on my G3. I plan to keep it on for a while longer to see how it stands up to daily wear and tear.
I'll update as I continue to use the ZAGG and what I decide to use in the long run as well as other protectors I try out. Again, feel free to share your own experiences with these or other glass protectors.
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I have the Zagg and just like you I have sensitivity issues to the point I get frustrated at times when it wouldn't respond to my taps and presses. I don't get much smudging but I have nothing to compare it to. I was thinking of getting Spigen's GLAS.tR NANO SLIM protector since it is 0.23 mm thick compared to Zagg's 0.4 mm thickness but the price is pretty steep.