It looks very promising, advanced, lots of features, but...
1. GUI errors, lots of texts and error messages appear in chinese, despite being official English version.
2. Writing known addresses, it always jumps to default chinese versions of site (ex. Google.com)
3. Trying to open link in new tab/window, it hangs completely, need soft-reset or use FdcSoft Task Manager 3.1 and wait few minutes
4. Trying to launch page from history, nothing happens.
5. Cumbersome to import favorites: only from PIE, no Opera.
6. It seems Chinese communist censorship has said its final word , trying to navigate to sites banned by Chinese communist govt, you see an error message in chinese .. well..if giant Google is on knees in front of Communist Chinese authorities, what would you expect from a homeland chinese company.. ?
7. What is really annoying and a real security risk is that a lot of browser traffic goes via some chinese servers, despite clarifications from UCWEB company on their support forum that this occurs ONLY at first start after install.
To be more clear, I say that any western country citizen should be very suspicious to this program.
Perhaps only third part country may ignore, but to let your personal and secret data pass through a chinese server, you must be completely irresponsible.
Otherwise a nice product, pity is so unsafe.
To be joking, I'd say: ok, I'm a western (USA, Canada, GB or alike..) I know the Big Brother is watching me (NSA, CIA, FBI, MI6..) I know how to behave.. I have nothing to fear, don't care if they know my bank account or my sms to my girlfriend... but the thing is totally different when such info is "used" in China to blackmail you...
With regards,
The biggest issue I have with it is that it doesn't close down properly for me. It leaves a large chunk of ram in gwes.exe (2-3 MB). If I run sk Tools 'compact heaps' after closing it down, it will release the ram. I didn't have this problem with 6.3.
Well, It is actually a web broswer initially made for chinese people (cuz it's a chinese company) and the server would surly be in China to inssure the speed. "Maybe" some day in the future the UC company would have their development in western countries and then you can use it without the fear of being threatened or something else.
However, There's not doubt that it offers a great compression ratio of data that saves our bill. Being an user in China, I've been using it everyday since I got my first phone.
It's a good app and I hope it can be popular around the world in the coming days.
Sorry for my bad English.
Best regards,
Rotar
kaneorotar said:
There's not doubt that it offers a great compression ratio of data that saves our bill...
It's a good app and I hope it can be popular around the world in the coming days.
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I agree with you, it's a very good one.
Same compression alike Skyfire, Skyfire can Flash but the rest of it is poor.
UCWEB is great, but no flash.
Flash in UCWEB 7
To be frank, the new version of UCWEB - 7.0 supports Flash. (Well, it is better to say that it is capable to display flash, you can ONLY see it working by visiting:
mlf.gd.ucweb.com/ppc/index.xhtml (Using your UCWEB!)
(Not sure if this works outside China, but you can try )
At least the chinese version works well. It requires you to install a plugin called "Adobe Flash Lite 3.1" and UCWEB will do the rest for you.
Heres some screenshoots:
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This is the website that has the flash games compatible for UCWEB 7. Unfortunately it is in Chinese so maybe you can't understand it.
Just click one of the links and this will show up:
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If you still havn't got your "Flash Lite 3.1" installed, UCWEB will notify at here and you can easily follow its steps to make the flash play on your screen.
This is what it looks like:
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It also suppert full screen mode which would offer better graphic in landscape mode:
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I guess the company is working on making the flash to show on normal sites. I wish I can see that in this year.
Hope you enjoy it.
Best Regards,
Rotar
its a good browser from speed point of view. but wz sum bugs .exmp afrer inistallation when connected through gsm its ok. then if turned to connection through activesync it failed !! hope they ill fix dat bug in the future version.
Love UCWEB 6 but hate version 7....My issues are the same as all mentioned but also It will only connect via WIFI!!!!!!! try connecting via GPRS or 3G and fails. always showing a 9007 connection error!!! seems very odd.Hope they sort it out...
regards
Lohtse
been using on I910 for a week and 6.3 long before. I experience none of the problems the first poster had and works on WiFi and 3g. love the new rendering (adaptive mode) of sites in version 7 and scrolling is much better. I am in america and if the chinese want to watch me surf PDA sites, look at train pictures, check sports scores and look up prices of things and read user reviews. god bless them. my credit card number and bank accounts being entered on my phone will never happen. very nice browser great improvements. but people with questionable surfing habits BEWARE the chinese are watching. he he he. post done from ucweb.
good day.
No flash outside China
kaneorotar said:
To be frank, the new version of UCWEB - 7.0 supports Flash. (Well, it is better to say that it is capable to display flash, you can ONLY see it working by visiting:
mlf.gd.ucweb.com/ppc/index.xhtml (Using your UCWEB!)
(Not sure if this works outside China, but you can try )
At least the chinese version works well. It requires you to install a plugin called "Adobe Flash Lite 3.1" and UCWEB will do the rest for you.
If you still havn't got your "Flash Lite 3.1" installed, UCWEB will notify at here and you can easily follow its steps to make the flash play on your screen.
I guess the company is working on making the flash to show on normal sites. I wish I can see that in this year.
Hope you enjoy it.
Best Regards,
Rotar
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Unfortunately it does not work outside China.
There is the English version:http://www.uc.cn/English/index.shtml
and you can choose ur area.
Zeno2 said:
Unfortunately it does not work outside China.
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Oh! What a pity! Wish you could see that in the next version.
BTW, back to the security problem. I guess I could also say that using Skyfire is dangerous because its server's in America. However, it supports flash well. Then it is our freedom to choose what to use. Hopefully nothing's going to happen when we use these broswers since we ought to be friends and live in peace. The globalization is happening and our world is becoming a big village (ideally). May there be less suspecions and misunderstandings between countries and people.
Best regards,
Rotar
P.S. I hope you can understand me because even myself can not make sure how to express the above ideas in Chinese.
Update：
I discovered that the site has changed it URL. Now it is "mfl.ucweb.com.cn". I guess it'll work this time.(Tested via an oversea server, you should be able to see/download the page on your PC.)
Best regards,
Rotar
i installed it on my samsung i600. ucweb took long time to start, and make my phone freeze. i restarted my phone, and it happened again. any ideas?
Security... wouldn't b a problem if you are not accessing secure data like online bsnk passwords etc... But its not a problem at all for me because this super fast browser doesn't connect through GPRS...
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Hey everyone,
I've been using a WM device for 2 years, a good and old KJAM and now the X7500. As you may have seen in my previous post, I'm going to use the X7500 as a UMPC together with my KJAM. I don't plan to ditch the KJAM, as I'm going to keep using it as my PDA and phone. The main purposes of the X7500 would be browsing (WIFI or HSDPA), watching movies, gaming and maybe some document editing.
I have to say, that I got lost trying searching and reading posts around here, and there seem to be a lot of confusion about many things, so I'm gonna ask some questions that I couldn't find one straight updated answer for. I know that these questions have been asked a lot of times, but as I said, there wasn't any clear answer for them (hopefully there is now).
1. I need a good, fast and reliable WM6/WM6.1 ROM. I don't need many features, just simple and as fast as possible. What do u recommend? By the way, if I flash another ROM will it change my device ID? I have bought a program that is registered to that specific device, and by changing the ID that program won't work.
2. BT mouse. how good does it work with the Athena? Will it slow down the system? Will it work with any program (esp. browsers)? How about connecting a USB mouse through the 4-in-1 cable, would it work?
3. Browser. We have a great device, amazing screen but I feel that no browser is good enough for it. I don't want anything fancy, but I want it to be fast and support tabbed browsing. Opera mini is fast enough, but it lacks an option to browse with XX% zoom out permanently like Opera, Netfront or even IE. All of the above are pretty good by the way, but they are simply too slow. Actually, I don't get that. Why are they so slow browsing with WIFI or 3.5G? Opera mini does the job faster, my desktop with the same connection does it faster, what's causing their lag? I found out that browsing through my desktop with LOGMEIN from the X7500 is even faster (but annoying).
Any browser that will hit the spot? Any way to speed things up?
4. Task manager. I want a program that will give me the multi-tasking capability of a desktop PC without slowing down the device. basically I need instant access to all the open programs in the same way the taskbar works on Windows. If the program will give me the option to choose whether to minimize or close a window, it would be better.
5. Printer. Can I plug a USB printer, or can I use only network/BT printers with the device?
6. Any other tips of-course would me most welcomed.
I hope you had the patience to read all of those questions, and maybe even more patience to answer them. Thanks a lot to everyone around here....
best rom? athena project 3. cannot be beaten. ther's a rule on here where theres no posting of roms allowed except project kitchen. This rom is made by people working all day on it, and a new version is released like every 3 months. because thats how long it takes to make it perfect. Im fairly sure the new one is being released this week. but dont quote me on that.
You named all the browsers anyone would suggest, so I cant really recommend anything.
For taskbar id say use wisbar if you need loads of features and skinnable taskbar along with cascading start menu like real windows, or wktask for just sortof tabbed taskbar. wktask is embedded into the rom I mentioned.
hope this helps
Rory
rorydaredkign said:
best rom? athena project 3. cannot be beaten. ther's a rule on here where theres no posting of roms allowed except project kitchen. This rom is made by people working all day on it, and a new version is released like every 3 months. because thats how long it takes to make it perfect. Im fairly sure the new one is being released this week. but dont quote me on that.
You named all the browsers anyone would suggest, so I cant really recommend anything.
For taskbar id say use wisbar if you need loads of features and skinnable taskbar along with cascading start menu like real windows, or wktask for just sortof tabbed taskbar. wktask is embedded into the rom I mentioned.
hope this helps
Rory
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First of all, thanks a lot for your comment. I don't really understand what you mean by no ROM postings allowed around here. If I want a lighter ROM than Athena Project, and afraid to cook myself one, I'm out of luck? nobody can even publish their cooked versions of the AP ROMs?
There is no rule like that at all.
If you decide to cook a ROM, feel free to post it. The Athena Project do some great work, but they don't own these public forums.
i dont want to argue about it , but if that's the case, then why is there only one cooked rom avalable? plus check the sticky called proj ct kitchen to see where i got the impression that you cant.
Rory
kramerica2 said:
1. I need a good, fast and reliable WM6/WM6.1 ROM. I don't need many features, just simple and as fast as possible. What do u recommend? By the way, if I flash another ROM will it change my device ID? I have bought a program that is registered to that specific device, and by changing the ID that program won't work.
2. BT mouse. how good does it work with the Athena? Will it slow down the system? Will it work with any program (esp. browsers)? How about connecting a USB mouse through the 4-in-1 cable, would it work?
3. Browser. We have a great device, amazing screen but I feel that no browser is good enough for it. I don't want anything fancy, but I want it to be fast and support tabbed browsing. Opera mini is fast enough, but it lacks an option to browse with XX% zoom out permanently like Opera, Netfront or even IE. All of the above are pretty good by the way, but they are simply too slow. Actually, I don't get that. Why are they so slow browsing with WIFI or 3.5G? Opera mini does the job faster, my desktop with the same connection does it faster, what's causing their lag? I found out that browsing through my desktop with LOGMEIN from the X7500 is even faster (but annoying).
Any browser that will hit the spot? Any way to speed things up?
4. Task manager. I want a program that will give me the multi-tasking capability of a desktop PC without slowing down the device. basically I need instant access to all the open programs in the same way the taskbar works on Windows. If the program will give me the option to choose whether to minimize or close a window, it would be better.
5. Printer. Can I plug a USB printer, or can I use only network/BT printers with the device?
6. Any other tips of-course would me most welcomed.
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1) I will suggest PK3.0 as the fastest IMHO, we are waiting the new WM6.1 (4.0 release) The .NET re-designed will improve the speed as is happening in many other ROMs. We are waiting also the results of the Athena Team tuning: wait the WM6.1 may be in the next week.
I have increased the speed using MEMMAID, (www.dinarsoft.com) as mantainance and optimizzation tool. The rom's speed depends only from chef choices for the first start but later is related to many other things. Manteinance is the best way to keep it fast
1b) Device ID changed? may be not, we will see...
2) I use a wired optical mouse and it works just as is supposed to do
3) opera 9.5 is fast, the beta is out and it is finger friendly and fast . Netfront 3.5 is fast too, I chose Opera
4) wktask is part of PK rom, you can download it here http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html and it does exactly what you need
5) Yes, BT or network, having jetcet print
ROM cooking is free and WELCOMED here!
rorydaredkign said:
i dont want to argue about it , but if that's the case, then why is there only one cooked rom avalable?
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There are a couple of others floating around if you search hard enough.
But the Athena Project roms are so good, everyone seems to use them.
fair enough mate. I have been reading the athena forums for abut 3 months, and never seen any other rom... theres so few posts daily, im sure I would have noticed
Rory
rorydaredkign said:
fair enough mate. I have been reading the athena forums for abut 3 months, and never seen any other rom... theres so few posts daily, im sure I would have noticed
Rory
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This is the 6.1 porting from Kaiser I think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363542
I think a lot of the browser slowness is down to windows mobile itself. Not sure why. Even the Opera Mini Java midlet is faster on the Symbian OS than on Windows Mobile. Netfront and Opera 9.5 are big improvements on what was available last year though, and Opera will no doubt have a few tweaks before its official release. No Flash or Java add-ons though still
Apparently someone has already managed to play youtube with Opera. Not sure if it is true as he has not responded to request for the cab file yet.
edit: This gentleman gave an update. He had earlier managed to make it work by editing the axobjects.ini file to effect the following changes:
[Shockwave Flash]
CLSID={EB8B5B8E-EDB9-4180-9E2E-F8F1632DC171} #FlashLite RAC;/\\ (M
Alias={D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000} #Flash (desktop)
Description=Macromedia Flash Player 7.0 Y8jt_XD;Z
FileExtents=swf|spl|flv
MIMEType = application/x-shockwave-flash|application/futuresplash I_hAgk 04
FileOpenName=Adobe Flash movie (*.swf)|FutureSplash movie (*.spl)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.mfp)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.flv)
Allow=Url|Embed|Object|Scripts
He had posted some screen capture of his earlier success, but found that subsequently it stopped working mysteriously. Anyway, he also said that he is sure when FL3 (instead of Flash player 7) is avaialble this would work.
The trouble is, will adobe release a FL3 for winmo platform...
Edit:
The above works. Make sure you have installed flash player 7 and make the above edit to the ini file.
eaglesteve said:
Apparently someone has already managed to play youtube with Opera. Not sure if it is true as he has not responded to request for the cab file yet.
edit: This gentleman gave an update. He had earlier managed to make it work by editing the axobjects.ini file to effect the following changes:
[Shockwave Flash]
CLSID={EB8B5B8E-EDB9-4180-9E2E-F8F1632DC171} #FlashLite RAC;/\\ (M
Alias={D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000} #Flash (desktop)
Description=Macromedia Flash Player 7.0 Y8jt_XD;Z
FileExtents=swf|spl|flv
MIMEType = application/x-shockwave-flash|application/futuresplash I_hAgk 04
FileOpenName=Adobe Flash movie (*.swf)|FutureSplash movie (*.spl)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.mfp)|Adobe Flash Paper (*.flv)
Allow=Url|Embed|Object|Scripts
He had posted some screen capture of his earlier success, but found that subsequently it stopped working mysteriously. Anyway, he also said that he is sure when FL3 (instead of Flash player 7) is avaialble this would work.
The trouble is, will adobe release a FL3 for winmo platform...
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The above works. Make sure you have installed flash player 7 and make the above edit to the ini file.
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It's very jerky though. Still better off with the flash plugin. There's an application called EMTube on Symbian devices, would be nice to see it on winmo as it allows access to all the youtube Videos at high quality without loading up the browser at all. There's the Vtap application but that always seemed a bit stodgy to me.
On the subject of Fl3.0 you may have a long wait yet - it's still only been integrated into the N95 8gb, don't know what Adobe are playing at with the rollout for this - it was released as a developers' testing package over five months ago, at this rate someone's going to develop a workaround that screws them over: I HOPE AND PRAY!
That's why there was no excitement in my post.It's not really watchable.
I would still prefer to use PIE with TCPMP to download it first then watch it.
Hello,
I have been using the HTC WM6 ROM HERE and its been great. I wanted a basic ROM with no whistles and bows to get used to the device. Mine had the T-Mobile ROM on, nothing wrong with it but the phone dialer and theme are awful in my view. I tried both opera and net 3.5 and both show great promise, but they aren't ready yet. I ended up just getting one of the IE addon's that hanango do, fine for now. interesting to hear about the things you can use through the USB port. Ive been using the universal and stuff like that doesn't work on it. I think I need to go back and read up more!
Take care
Jay
According to many news sites from the summer (like these : http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/jun08/06-10BloombergMobilePR.mspx and http://visualstudiomagazine.com/news/article.aspx?editorialsid=9987), there is apparently a Bloomberg application for windows mobile similar to the iphone app. Yet, I cannot find any place to download this. Does anyone have any information on this?
Seems to be more or less an Asian thing, neverless here the MSN Search results: http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=Bloomberg+"Windows+Mobile"+download&src=IE-SearchBox
still cannot find a download site with that search from msn.com
http://bbmobile.bloomberg.com/winmo.html
yeah ...check out guys with above link ..its 472kb only cab file
Looks like you might need a Bloomberg Professional Account in order to use the Mobile Application.
I installed the .cab file on my phone, (then registered on bloomberg via the normal bloomberg website using my pc), but cannot login via the app on my mobile. It does not recognize my login name and I cannot register via the mobile...Any ideas???
Winmo is losing out big time.
Kompete said:
I installed the .cab file on my phone, (then registered on bloomberg via the normal bloomberg website using my pc), but cannot login via the app on my mobile. It does not recognize my login name and I cannot register via the mobile...Any ideas???
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Indeed, there is a bloomberg app for winmo, but it is not free. the site to download is http://bbmobile.bloomberg.com/winmo.html , but you got to register to use it. The normal account you registered cannot be use on the bloomberg winmo app. To use it, you need to call up to bloomberg and sign up a "bloomberg anywhere" account. I did call up for the same issue. to sign up, it will cost thousand per month, while iphone is giving it for free. Even Big Players such as Yahoo and Autodesk went over to iPhone.
Now u see the reason for iphone wave. If this continue, iPhone will monopolise the smart phone market. Some ppl like me, thought that Blackstone is a potential iPhone killer. After get the blankstone, I will say blankstone is good, BUT it is nowhere close to what iPhone have to offer. Some even think that Palm Pre could be the next iPhone killer. But after the review, I think not.
My next phone set could be iPhone. Hope Winmo will catch up by then. Good Luck to Winmo user like me. Major thing i still using Blackstone, is GPS and bluetooth. If iPhone can resolve these issue somehow, I dun think any of the other phones can stand before iPhone any more.
Its here! the non-pro version like for the iphone.
Been looking awhile for this, wonder why they are so quiet about it..
http m.bloomberg .com
Still no way to put your stock into different portfolios in My Stocks
bloomberg app
here is another link that works the others seem to be out of date
down loaded the app seems to work ok not explored it too much yet if you cannot down load from i have the cab file
https://msmvps.com/blogs/nunoluz/archive/2010/05/25/bloomberg-for-windows-phones.aspx
agre4168 said:
here is another link that works the others seem to be out of date
down loaded the app seems to work ok not explored it too much yet if you cannot down load from i have the cab file
https://msmvps.com/blogs/nunoluz/archive/2010/05/25/bloomberg-for-windows-phones.aspx
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This works great - no registration needed and gives stock, commodity FX, News - all you need! Thanks!
Bloonberg
Many thanks great app
Perfect
agre4168 said:
here is another link that works the others seem to be out of date
down loaded the app seems to work ok not explored it too much yet if you cannot down load from i have the cab file
https://msmvps.com/blogs/nunoluz/archive/2010/05/25/bloomberg-for-windows-phones.aspx
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Works great, Thanks
perfect. thanks a lot. any alternatives?
Thanks for the link. However, I cannot get it work on my Jasjam wm 6.1. I get the following error message:
Bloomberg Mobile.exe
MissingMethodException
File or assembly name 'System.Data.SqlServerCe, Version=3.0.3600.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=3BE235DF1C8D2AD3', or one of its dependencies, was not found.
Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is there a workaround? I'll be very grateful for any assistance.
Hi,
Could you pls supply the cab file?
Thanks.
Hi Fellow XDA'ers!
I have a touch dual (with WM6.5).
I like the look of the Hero but have a few reservations.
Firstly, I read posts that it struggles to sync with Outlook!!?? - can this be sorted? - ActivSync (by BTooth) is very handy and does the job well.
Secondly, I like having the apps such as IGO8 or TOMTOM to hand on my phone, should I need it.
Can I install these apps (or similar) on the Hero?....In other words - can WM apps work on Android?
thanks
andy_dutch said:
Firstly, I read posts that it struggles to sync with Outlook!!?? - can this be sorted? - ActivSync (by BTooth) is very handy and does the job well.
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I think syncing with Outlook over Bluetooth is out of the question. It can sync Contacts and Calendar (only those two) over the USB cable with the use of the 'HTC Sync' software. That software is not available _yet_ on the HTC site, but apparently it IS included on the memorycard included with the Orange bundle that is now shipping.
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Secondly, I like having the apps such as IGO8 or TOMTOM to hand on my phone, should I need it.
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Those two applications are not (yet?) available for Android. There are a few other navigation solutions available, but I'm under the impression they are not the level of iGO or TomTom. Also, I have no idea on which countries they support or what price they are available at.
andy_dutch said:
Can I install these apps (or similar) on the Hero?....In other words - can WM apps work on Android?
thanks
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No. There are a whole bunch of Android apps, but software made for Windows Mobile will simply not work (and never will) on Android. They will have to make a special Android version for it, and for utilities and tweaks that is simply not easily done.
dipje said:
There are a few other navigation solutions available, but I'm under the impression they are not the level of iGO or TomTom. Also, I have no idea on which countries they support or what price they are available at.
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ALKs CoPilot Live 8 is available on the market and is quite competitively priced at £22.60 for a one region version (e.g. UK maps).
I've not played with it extensively, as I bought it as a backup for my regular Garmin satnav unit, but it is definitely much slicker than some of the other alternatives for Android that I've tried (e.g. AndNav).
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
ALKs CoPilot Live 8 is available on the market and is quite competitively priced at £22.60 for a one region version (e.g. UK maps).
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Seems to be a good TomTom alternative! Thanks for the Tip! And they even have 'whole of western europe' or only 'benelux'. That makes it much more affordable if you never leave The Netherlands for example .
Since I'm an Android newbie myself (well, not even an Android newbie, still waiting for my Hero): On the CoPilot site, on 'where to buy' to say to go to the Android market. But they also have three picture, some sort of square barcode. I've seen those more around Android oriented pages. How do they work?
It's a QR code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code) which is essentially a 2-dimensional barcode that can hold a variety of data. In this case, it is holding a URL.
If you download a barcode reader from the market (e.g. Barcode Scanner by ZXing team, which is the one I use) you can use the phones camera to "read" the barcode and it will then allow you to jump to the URL in the browser.
Regards,
Dave
Winmo apps on Android
You never know what could happen guys!
I currently dual boot windows 7 ultimate and Linux Ubuntu.
And as all linux users are aware, there is a nice little app called wine, Wine allows us to run and use many windows apps in a Linux enviroment...
Cant be that much different with Android (linux) and windows mobile.. can it?
Would be a fantastic step and i think possibly the final push for many winmo users!
Im still struggling to choose my self....From HD to Hero?? mmmm
There are few things you need to know about the young android:
1. You cannot save apps to memory card unless rooted.
2. You cannot receive files via bluetooth unless rooted.
overall, Android is a lot better than Winmob
Sorry if this is a stupid question :-(
I run a number of Java applets under WINMO via an applet manager (ESmertec for example). Will these run on Android?
CoPilot is working brilliantly on my Magic and I'll be putting it on my Hero when I get it at weekend.
Here's a great thing - any apps that I've purchased from the Android Market are tied to my google checkout account - When I sign in on my Hero and go to market, those apps will show as purchased and downloadable for me. Also my calendar and contacts will automatically sync to my Hero.
As far as WM apps are concerned, I've used both WM6 and android devices - Not missing anything on my Magic that I had on WM now that Turn By Turn Nav is there. Some apps are already ported over - Docs To go, and recently Touchpal Keyboards.
The ability to search for, find, pay for (if needed) and download software on the fly is just priceless. The fact that most apps are free or very cheap is even better. I'd not go back to WinMo now for anything...
However, you're just gonna have to get one in your hand and see for yourself - its all personal preference amongst the top handsets really.
well my upgrade is being delivered in the morning! yey! HTC Hero on orange..
Wonder if tomtom will port any time soon? should be an easy job considering the tom tom units are linux driven!
jackdaniels_lee said:
Wonder if tomtom will port any time soon? should be an easy job considering the tom tom units are linux driven!
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I've been a TomTom user (on my HTC Trinity and HTC Touch Pro) for almost 3 years now. My HTC Hero will be arriving on Monday morning and I'm actually pretty excited about the change I'll be making to CoPilot.
Not that there's anything wrong with TomTom, but the newer version of CoPilot looks very cool, and it might be nice to try something different.
iammorris said:
I've been a TomTom user (on my HTC Trinity and HTC Touch Pro) for almost 3 years now. My HTC Hero will be arriving on Monday morning and I'm actually pretty excited about the change I'll be making to CoPilot.
Not that there's anything wrong with TomTom, but the newer version of CoPilot looks very cool, and it might be nice to try something different.
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I have heard a lot of people complaining about the version of CoPilot crashing on the Hero, not sure why this is. TomTom are releasing an iPhone version so who knows, might make its way over to Android in about 3 years?
For me, Copilot certainly crashed. It was not a patch on the stability of Garmin XT. The application felt unfinished with a lot of times when not a full crash, lack of keyboard reponse. Tbh, this failure was the straw that broke the Hero's back
I've not had a single problem with copilot on my magic. Fully tested with postcodes etc and long journeys. Its VERY cheap compared to most satnavs, can be used without any data assistance at all, and very quick to reroute etc.
I have heard about some probs but they have mostly seemed to be related to people trying to hack it or get the maps running without paying, and I know that copilot has added a few layers of security since I bought mine for magic - initially it just installed and needed your google checkout number.
Then it needed that, and you then got a license code and device ID thingy.
I had an update early on from version .303 to .327 which made mine stop loading - One email to support, told me to uninstall ALL, including the maps folder, and it was back working perfectly... I personally think the voices of folks having probs trying to get it running without paying are clouding the issue a bit - I've only heard from one (cbailey) who I know paid, but still got crashes.
Daisy - Was happy with my G1 (since Jan) Happy with my Magic(since beginning of June), and gonna be happy with my Hero I think...
Dayzee said:
I've not had a single problem with copilot on my magic.
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You're in the UK right? I have been looking into copilot as a replacement for my old TomTom once I get my Hero. And although copilot said on their website they have european versions, if I browse the store (though Cyrket for example) I only see their USA map pack / application. Is this location / localization dependant somehow? Why can't I see the european maps in the market?
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Daisy - Was happy with my G1 (since Jan) Happy with my Magic(since beginning of June), and gonna be happy with my Hero I think...
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I think we got a big android fan here
In the Market, you get the option for a One Region map - Uk and Ireland comes under that - for £25.99 (Market shows 22 something but then checkout adds VAT for UK)
I think these options are only seen/available on market for android phones. I think they are not offered as products for other platforms, and you only get details once you have bought CoPilot 8 for android.
I personally downloaded CoPilot Central and got my maps via PC through that. You get a Membership name and password when you checkout at google Checkout - I was sent an email with details of that. The actual copilot programe for android downloads to your fone OTA like other apps, but the map fetcher is on PC. I think you CAN get the maps OTA to your fone, but I thougyht that seemed silly and would take ages and be heavy on your data allowance etc.
CoPilot central is free I think - You can get it here
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/central/
Daisy xxx
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I think you CAN get the maps OTA to your fone, but I thougyht that seemed silly and would take ages and be heavy on your data allowance etc.
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You can get them OTA direct onto the phone via cellular data, but the program advises you do it over WiFi.
Regards,
Dave
cbailey said:
For me, Copilot certainly crashed. It was not a patch on the stability of Garmin XT. The application felt unfinished with a lot of times when not a full crash, lack of keyboard reponse. Tbh, this failure was the straw that broke the Hero's back
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No problems at all with CoPilot APART from TouchFlo seems to lock up when I exit. Not sure if anyone else has this problem.
Other than that, it has no lag what-so-ever, which I used to always have with TomTom. Big thumbs up for me, even more so when I sort out the locking issue when exit, but thats no biggie.
Here it is people, as promised, MarketPlaceRegionSwitch. What does it do? It allows you to switch MarketPlace to USA, Germany, France, Netherlands, etc. Whatever you want - without mucking with regional settings, soft-resetting, etc. "because I can"
I DEMAND you read the entire post before using it, because there are definitely things you should know before using it.
This app actually fools Marketplace into thinking you are from somewhere else. This method is not foolproof, and may be circumvented by Microsoft in the near future. It is not for the faint of heart either.
Why?
Because developers have been left in the cold for manually verifying their apps are in the correct markets. Microsoft have dropped the ball a few times with "published" apps seemingly not being published at all, or incorrectly. While I'm sure Microsoft will fix these issues in due time (and indeed provide the functionality this program offers) for now developers need to check this for themselves. So no, this app is not meant for end-users, but for developers. If you still want to use it, that's fine by me, but it's on your own conscience
Keep in mind this is a developer tool, for verification of Marketplace presence. I would strongly advise against using this to download apps from market regions that are not your own, and especially not buying them through this app. In fact it is likely the Marketplace will not allow you to purchase from another country than your CC's billing address in either case.
How to use
Now here come the important bits. When you start the application, you will see two text boxes in front of you. MCC (mobile country code), and Lang (language ID). By default they have settings for the USA entered.
You will want to fill these values with the correct values for the market you want to visit. You should have matching country codes and language ID's, but see the note below about that. In 1.1 I have also added a select box with presets that mostly work.
Now, how to find the values you need to enter here:
MCC Go to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Country_Code. You want to enter the numeric, 3-digit code.
Lang Go to this page: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964664.aspx. You want the values from the LCID hex column.
Hit go, wait a few seconds, and you should be in the market of your choice.
Please note that unlike the other region switching tricks, this one is supposed to work through your CELLULAR connection specifically! Please make sure you do NOT have USB/ActiveSync or Wi-Fi connected!
Notes about the "preset" selection box
While many of these presets work, I have noticed some strange behavior. Often the 'expected' codes do not work if a region is combined with a language, but that language is not from that region.
Take for example, Luxembourg. The preset uses the correct LangID and MCC for French/Luxembourg, but it usually wont work. If you keep the Lang from French/Luxembourg but use the code for France in the MCC box, it usually will work and you will end up in the Marketplace for Luxembourg, not the one for France. You will have to play with it if you want to test for these less common markets. If you have specific notes about which codes work for which specific Markets, please do post them here.
If you are having trouble connecting to the USA marketplace, try using 311, 312, 313 or 314 instead of 310 in the MCC box.
How it was done
The entire thing is done by runtime patching. Functions used to figure out which locale you are in are patched by the app, returning the value you entered in Lang. Accompanied with that, the IMSI is patched and the MCC part is replaced by the value you entered in MCC. This all is a lot more complicated than it sounds
Obviously the app does it's best to restore original behaviour on exit, though I would still advise soft-resetting when you're done with it.
Random notes
The UI sucks, deal with it. I spent less than 5 minutes on it. I did spend many hours on the actual functionality, though.
The app should remain running while running Marketplace! It will (should) automatically exit once you exit Marketplace. Be sure to use the menu->exit function, instead of the X (the latter will usually just hide Marketplace, not close it).
The method used to patch may cause issues that will not disappear until you soft-reset, chances are slim but things can go wrong.
Changelog
29.10.2009 - v1.1
Presets added
Having to restart Marketplace twice without this app to get back to your "home" market should be fixed
If you are a developer for Marketplace and you make use of this app, it would be much appreciated if you would DONATE to me for my time (the link to donate is at the bottom of my signature)
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Great job bro!
Thanks for the great util. Much appreciated bro!
nice, thx, finally a marketplace with more then 5 items and in a language i understand
Nice work!
Now to find me some US applications!
Figures, trying to add presets to this, and just as I want to start testing the whole data network craps out... *taps foot and waits for T-Mobile to fix things*
Chainfire said:
Figures, trying to add presets to this, and just as I want to start testing the whole data network craps out... *taps foot and waits for T-Mobile to fix things*
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I'll test it if you want.
(Drop me a PM or something if you want)
Kudos, Chainfire.
1.1 released... most importantly it adds presets. Not all of them work right, see the notes.
Also, some mod please add an empty post at the top please (I always forget to do that, hah!)
sweeeeet.. going to try it straight away
Update : Cold beer coming your way
Great work, wish I had a data plan...
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Also, some mod please add an empty post at the top please (I always forget to do that, hah!)
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Nice one, post #2 is your's .
Dave
Hi,
Great tool, but it doesn't work for me. After hitting the go button the app closes completely down.
Chainfire, you are a god!
I have to say, a great app, but it doesn't work for me.
I applied the standard settings (being the US one) but after this when I start Windows Marketplace I still get the dutch one.
I have Wi-Fi turned off, so what am I doing wrong? (I have the Marketplace version where you can select the location to save your app)
For those of you it doesn't work for, I'm not sure what the cause of this is. I actually had the same problem on one of my phones, it wouldn't switch away from Dutch (my "home" marketplace), and then suddenly it did - and I have been unable to reproduce the problem since.
All I can say is try uninstalling Marketplace, deleting HKCU\Security\Software\Microsoft\Marketplace, soft-reset, reinstall Marketplace. That might do the trick - or it might not.
@Sanderjohan: device/rom ?
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For those of you it doesn't work for, I'm not sure what the cause of this is. I actually had the same problem on one of my phones, it wouldn't switch away from Dutch (my "home" marketplace), and then suddenly it did - and I have been unable to reproduce the problem since.
All I can say is try uninstalling Marketplace, deleting HKCU\Security\Software\Microsoft\Marketplace, soft-reset, reinstall Marketplace. That might do the trick - or it might not.
@Sanderjohan: device/rom ?
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I'll try it when I get home!
Congrats on your thread at Tweakers.net
Also, it seems to work more reliable if you make sure you have a cellular connection before you run the app.. Also make sure you are NOT signed in with your LiveID
Thanks for this great app, it works flawlessly.
I have already tried to buy a product but it did not accept my credit card information at the last step. May be there could be a work around for this also.
Regards,
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For those of you it doesn't work for, I'm not sure what the cause of this is. I actually had the same problem on one of my phones, it wouldn't switch away from Dutch (my "home" marketplace), and then suddenly it did - and I have been unable to reproduce the problem since.
All I can say is try uninstalling Marketplace, deleting HKCU\Security\Software\Microsoft\Marketplace, soft-reset, reinstall Marketplace. That might do the trick - or it might not.
@Sanderjohan: device/rom ?
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Hi Chainfire,
My device is a HTC Tytn II with the following ROM Kaiser_HyperDragon_IV_Mega_6.5_WWE.
I already had Marketplace installed so I will try the thing you suggested by uninstalling and reinstalling Marketplace. I let you know if this works.
Sorry: Due To Strong Demand We Cannot Provide Service At This Time. Please Try Again Later., In Windows Mobile 6 and 6.5 is the message you are going to get if you are a skyfire user now. This been like this for the last 2 days now.
I don't know if we the windows mobile users have been turn off to get the big sale for the iphone, i will be removing skyfire from my phone for reason of no reply on the truth on why we have been turn off. I believe someone is not supporting beta anymore.
I have the same problem since yesterday! Help!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, unfortunately they have just launched their iPhone and iPad version for the app store.
To try to handle the load of new users on their server farms, they have basically said f-off to the WinMo and Symbian users.
Here's a link showing how well they are doing with iPhoney sales in the app store.
santod040 said:
Yeah, unfortunately they have just launched their iPhone and iPad version for the app store.
To try to handle the load of new users on their server farms, they have basically said f-off to the WinMo and Symbian users.
Here's a link showing how well they are doing with iPhoney sales in the app store.
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Damn.. Kudos to them haha. Anyways, use uZard.
skyfire has turned off winmo and symbian access
from one of their forum mods in their support section:
All the platforms run on one server, After the high demand for skyfire on iphone's for now Windows has been turned off on the server end. I can't give you a exact time period as to when we'll be back up again, All I can say is soon.
http://support.skyfire.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5981
oh well, I will never use it on any phone I get in the future. To turn off the servers for the people that built their reputation is pretty crappy. I hope they can't keep up with demand and get a bad reputation on the iphone.
why the **** i have to connect to a server if i only want to use the f****** browser. they should remove the online bookmark function at least give it a offline modus. they whole browser is still very suspect to me. simply let us use the browser like every ither developer and dont force us to go online before we evev load a webpage and make money with our surfbehaviors. anyways browser is great, but only if you can use it, without synchronising your bookmarks and whatever furthrt at stsrtup...
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why the **** i have to connect to a server if i only want to use the f****** browser. they should remove the online bookmark function at least give it a offline modus. they whole browser is still very suspect to me. simply let us use the browser like every ither developer and dont force us to go online before we evev load a webpage and make money with our surfbehaviors. anyways browser is great, but only if you can use it, without synchronising your bookmarks and whatever furthrt at stsrtup...
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I think that's because Skyfire is basically an Internet Proxy - it accesses the real pages, optimises them for size & speed and serves them back to the local browser as a Skyfire friendly page that renders quickly.
So no server, no browser, basically.
...and careful with the language please!
Well I for one am never gonna use skyfire again. Never thought it was that good any way apart from flash. uZardWeb is way faster in the uk. I think skyfire really dont see that there is competition out there and not just from uZardWeb. Wish I never gave them support with skyfire when they started out.
Skyfire doesn't give a damn about Windows Mobile... They dropped the platform (notice how there no version 2.0 for WM). They made no money with it (it was free), its dying platform and their code wouldn't work in WP7 (due to the stupid "no native code" support... imagine rewriting everything in C# for free and such a small niche).
Lot's of Apple idiots/fanboys in the world (it's a fing status symbol/icon). With the iPhone/iPad version I assume they are getting more traffic than they can handle right now. Anyway the only reason they are getting this much attention is Apple's anti-flash tantrum...
PS: I hate the uZard Project. uZard Media player is a slightly modified TCPMP version (worse than bimbam's by the way)... They didn't release the sources and didn't respond to my mail requesting it. I hope Core nails them for copyright infringement.
well, uzard could be good, but as i see some 'trial period over' it makes me go away.
Oh, btw, skyfire s**k big time.
Same here, so just un-installed it. Sod them,life goes on.
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Skyfire doesn't give a damn about Windows Mobile... They dropped the platform (notice how there no version 2.0 for WM). They made no money with it (it was free), its dying platform and their code wouldn't work in WP7 (due to the stupid "no native code" support... imagine rewriting everything in C# for free and such a small niche).
Lot's of Apple idiots/fanboys in the world (it's a fing status symbol/icon). With the iPhone/iPad version I assume they are getting more traffic than they can handle right now. Anyway the only reason they are getting this much attention is Apple's anti-flash tantrum...
PS: I hate the uZard Project. uZard Media player is a slightly modified TCPMP version (worse than bimbam's by the way)... They didn't release the sources and didn't respond to my mail requesting it. I hope Core nails them for copyright infringement.
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they didn't have to give winmo a 2.0 update, just a 1.6 update that fixed the video playback issues. Skyfire 1.x is based on IE6 (I think) which is no longer supported by most built video plugins. That is why video died.
And now to have been cut off completely from the servers.....
Alternative browsers?
Its been 4 days and i already miss having built in video web pages. I have come to my senses and going to delete skyfire for good. Right now im using opera mini and opera mobile for my browsing satisfication, but no built in video i could live without it, but are there any alternative browsers that can do the same thing?
This is one of many reasons why cloud computing sucks
diego1985 said:
Its been 4 days and i already miss having built in video web pages. I have come to my senses and going to delete skyfire for good. Right now im using opera mini and opera mobile for my browsing satisfication, but no built in video i could live without it, but are there any alternative browsers that can do the same thing?
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I am trying uzard now, nice interface, videos play in a uzard player. Good for most video, probably not optimal for pron.
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I am trying uzard now, nice interface, videos play in a uzard player. Good for most video, probably not optimal for pron.
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lol
Uzard wasn't good enough .. Is there an updated version somewhere?
any.option.to.replace.Skyfire?
Thank you guys for posting this thread and information.
I allways went to Sky Fire in the morning to read the news and stuff.
I was wondering what the happened to the server.
I now know why.
So I deleted Sky Fire and installed this Uzard Browser.
It works, but video is shoppy and browser is not as fast as Opera, but the colors and graphics is much better.
Skyfire is done with WM just like other companys dishing out software. They are all waitin for WP7. The only company I've seen that has the balls & courtesy to admit it was NIMBUZZ. Their site actually doesn't even offer WM downloads anymore and says they will resume work when the WP7 platform is ready. Look around all the well known programs that are cross platform and u will notice IPHONE & ANDROID have been getting updatest but not WM. Even the news station in my area says no more updates for the near future when tryin to download their news app. If everyone was not so materialistic and only cared about the new cool device these companies would keep supportin WM but they are just doin what the consumer wants them to do. They make more money from IPHONE & ANDROID so ofcourse thats where their attention is focused & till WP7 comes they will keep sayin "**** WINDOWS MOBILE!" Its all about money.
Well, it's kind of disappointing, but it's not like I paid for it (like the iphone users are doing).
You can use TCPMP as the player for UZard. I don't remember the exact trick, but I think if you open tcpmp up first, then open a vid on uzard, it will play through tcpmp, which is better because the skin on the uzard player is crap.