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I'm completely baffled by the ammount of roms available for this device.
How do I decide which one to use ?
Any personal experience from others that have used multiple roms ?
Which ones do you like the most ?
What should I be looking for ?
Thanks.
I've tried them all and Proven ROM is my favorite without question. Followed closely by Romeos and then NATF's ROM.
It's a personal preference thing anyways, just pick one and try it You'll probably try them all before you finally figure out what you're happy with.
My rule of thumb, just pick the one with the most viewed counts
Proven ROM is fast and reliable - I use 1.03. Having tried most ROM's available for the available for the TP, in my opinion Proven is your man and 1.03 is simply magnificient.
Rgs,
J
Azlum said:
I've tried them all and Proven ROM is my favorite without question. Followed closely by Romeos and then NATF's ROM.
It's a personal preference thing anyways, just pick one and try it You'll probably try them all before you finally figure out what you're happy with.
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Same here,you can try proven if you like speed and extra tf3d tabs etc,if you may not like that you can use romeOs.
Build 19971/19974 are based on stable and official roms and the difference is mostly in what applications and languages are included. Builds like 20757 are experimental ones and may contain unstable applications and components from for instance the Touch HD. So you have a choice - live on the edge, or go for something that will definitely work, regardless. PROven rom looks interesting for instance, but I'll wait for another couple of revisions until qsqa has worked all the kinks out.
afaik 20757 is an official, stable build from HTC (released for touch pro hd)
when porting is done correctly, no device-dependant components are upgraded, only the underlying operating system.. so providing the porting is done correctly, no unstable applications and components from other devices will be brought in as a result Again assuming the source ROM is an officially released base.. there are plenty of others that are not!
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My rule of thumb, just pick the one with the most viewed counts
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so true! lol
PROven rom 1.03 is the best in my case, now will test 1.04. Is difficult to stay in one with the fast upgrades by the chefs.
go nuts..flash em all!
see which one u like the best.
i do the whole trial and error thing.
at the moment im using the one in my sig..but that'll change within the next 24hrs.
Late,
Jstar
whos your carrier, if your in the states with sprint then i suggest http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=43229
The choice of ROM is very personal, and depends upon your needs.
I myself am using the latest build of ROMeOS, and its simply great.
This rom is very fast, responsive, has nice apps and all the great registry tweaks included. On top of that, monx® is providing us with regular updates, and support (even for Rom's with languages totally 'new' to him) you only expect from paying services. Just take a quick look @ the ROMeOS topics, and you'll be amazed...
Maybe you could add a poll to your topic?
Use the most used ROMs so you can get a clear view....
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Maybe you could add a poll to your topic?
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That's not a good idea: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448312
Please see the above post for more information on why this thread is closed.
Tried looking and have not seen any.
thanks
erhm, all of them? officially there is only cupcake on the hero, two more-or-less working donut roms are out there.
so either get your question right or find out what you are talking about. please.
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Tried looking and have not seen any.
thanks
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My guess is that you mean 'clean'/vanilla 1.5 cupcake roms. Which are not tampered with by HTC. Right?
In that case, no there aren't any.
You can disable Sense UI however, but you would still be stuck with the HTC skinned (crippled in some cases) applications.
Another option is to install a donut (1.60) or the eclair (2.0) rom, but those do not have full functionality at the moment, you lose the GPS accelerometer and or other features at this moment.
I hope this was what you meant.
thanks. That is what I mean, I want the original google based apps, especially the calendar.
Download the AOSP Cupcake source, and build one for yourself!
You could also try taking a "vanilla" ROM for say a Magic, and replace the kernel with the one from the Hero.
Regards,
Dave
why should i use the modaco rom over the stock? i am not really convinced to do it and the modaco rom also deletes some features, so why should i still take it?
Could you explain why you asking this question?
to know the ups and downs of the modaco rom compared to the stock one
The MCR is faster and a nice stable, free to adjust and modify ROM. That simple.
shiyou said:
why should i use the modaco rom over the stock? i am not really convinced to do it and the modaco rom also deletes some features, so why should i still take it?
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What features does it delete?
It adds functionallity, speed and stability
will the modaco rom also change the theme or?
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will the modaco rom also change the theme or?
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no
10 Char
does the modaco also play 3d games much fast and better or is just the same?
I guess that comes to your phone and the processor, graphic chip and whatever, i dont know. I mean installing XP professional instead of XP Home doesnt make your machine faster, but maybe better.
Just my opinion but shouldnt the modaco rom be discussed on modaco forums? seeing as on there they arent too happy with someone posting it up here without permission?
i would also like to know what features are told to be deleted? not by default, but with the kitchen you can leave out apps you don't want (twitter, stocks, footprints etc). the regular mcr is a generic rom with added features and improvements. if you are refering to the missing 2g/3g switch in mcr3.2 (the aforementioned closed beta), this is because the rom being built on a hutchinson 3 rom, which doesn't have this feature from the beginning. it can be done via 3rd party apps/widgets from the market nevertheless. if you want generic htc with paul's improvements go for mcr3.1.
imho it is absolutely ok to discuss this rom here. the problem with it being posted here was about taking a "closed" (as in only for modaco premium members) beta version, making a rom from it and post that here. and that was only discussed by other users, and (afaik, please correct me) never mentioned by paul (a.k.a. modaco) himself.
Indeed, of course we can discuss anything we like about MoDaCo here.
No functionality is removed by MoDaCo ROMs; the experience is pretty much identical to stock hero, except it's rooted, slightly faster, and a few extra apps are included by default.
It's by no means the best ROM around at the moment though. If you want a ROM of this type, it's been surpassed by Kimera.
I liked the MCR ROMs because they were my first taste of a rooted ROM, while it stayed as close to a shipped ROM as possible. The only problem I had with it was the distorted icon that showed up whenever you opened a Flash applet on a wepage -- On the shipped ROMs this didn't happen though.
The best thing I got from the MCR ROM was the task killer tweak, which elimates the sluggishness found in the stock ROM. Plus I often use Wi-Fi tethering (so that I can use my phone as a router), Titanium Backup (only allowed for root) and paid apps with Market Enabler.
If you go to modaco.com you can pay for his beta 3.2 ROM, which has an online kitchen so you can select which components you want added to the ROM. Pretty cool idea.
However, if you want even more control over what is in your ROM (including the actual files themselves and not checkboxes on a forum post), then just use my Hero Kitchen which has all the basic options for creating a rooted ROM from a shipped release. I would recommend you try MCR first though, so that you have a feel for what you want in a ROM.
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If you go to modaco.com you can pay for his beta 3.2 ROM, which has an online kitchen so you can select which components you want added to the ROM. Pretty cool idea.
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just so there is no misunderstanding, you pay to support modaco, not for the rom. you get the rom as a bonus for your ad-free membership. the kitchen is available for the public by now, you can cook your own mcr3.1 for free.
This thread is wrong, its not only the Modaco, its all the ROMs. Remember that we thankfully have many great chefs and all the cooked ROMs offer some benefit over the stock.
I advise you stop asking and start flashing and see for your self instead of asking.
Sergio PC said:
This thread is wrong, its not only the Modaco, its all the ROMs. Remember that we thankfully have many great chefs and all the cooked ROMs offer some benefit over the stock.
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well, it is true that there are other good chefs out there, but i don't see where it is wrong to ask about a specific one of them...
Sergio PC said:
I advise you stop asking and start flashing and see for your self instead of asking.
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that is in fact true...
Yes, sorry, I stated it in a wrong way. The money is a donation to help him maintain the very busy server he uses for ROMs. Wow, I never realized 3.1 had the free online kitchen!
kendong2 said:
just so there is no misunderstanding, you pay to support modaco, not for the rom. you get the rom as a bonus for your ad-free membership. the kitchen is available for the public by now, you can cook your own mcr3.1 for free.
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I agree with shiyou, what is the point of upgrading? My stock tmobile rom seems pretty stable and fast, is there a reason to go through the whole rigomarole of rooting it and so on! especially when there is an imminent release of an official 2.1 release from HTC.
Toobig said:
I agree with shiyou, what is the point of upgrading? My stock tmobile rom seems pretty stable and fast, is there a reason to go through the whole rigomarole of rooting it and so on! especially when there is an imminent release of an official 2.1 release from HTC.
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Well if you feel like that then no there is no need to do it.
However rooting is an easy (ish) task and once it is done you have the freedom to try things on your phone you can't do without it. E.g. get a taste of a 2.1 rom now.
It is easy to say that your current rom is fast and stable, but until you try another rom you have nothing to compare it to anyway so for all you know after trying another rom you might end up thinking "why the hell did I not do this months ago"
@shiyou + toobig
I believe this is the wrong section to discus basic and philosophic questions like this.
We should keep this place what it meant to be -> "... Android Development"
Okay so this may be a useless post and it is my first one so don't beat me up too badly. I have been searching all over the place to find a Froyo build with HTC Sense. It seems as though development has been halted because apparently Sense is too large for the Rhodium CPU and the screen resolution is too high. How can this be true when the Rhodium runs Sense in Windows Mobile 6.5? I want to see a Froyo build that has HTC Sense and camera support. Can or has this been done? Would someone be willing to do it if enough people were willing to donate? I just want my Rhodium to work the way I know it can. I know there is a 2.1 build with Sense but there is no camera and there are many bugs with it and is not useful to me. Any help is greatly appreciated.
If anyone finds any Froyo with sense builds for phones that are NOT the HD or HD2, please post a link to them in this forum.
Thank you.
Sense on WinMo != Sense on Android
So don't confuse them. Why do you want sense? It's just a big piece of bloat, and most of the things you can find in other places (IE Fancy Widget).
Sense in Winmo is native code, Sense in Android is Java. Unfortunately, the gains in terms of development ease gained with Java are offset by the inefficiencies of Java on lower-end hardware.
Also, the problem with Sense is that it needs to be ripped from a Sense-enabled HTC native Android device, and in many cases, the binary has enough customization that it does Bad Things on our devices.
As I understand it, the only Sense-enabled build seen on our devices so far was 2.1, and had, as you mention, resolution issues.
Also keep in mind that the Windows Mobile stock UI was very dated, so Sense was a major upgrade for it. My experience with Sense-enabled Android devices is that it offers very little and just slows the device down. Actually, this seems true for all manufacturer-provided alternate interfaces (like the crappiness of MOTOBLUR...)
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Sense in Winmo is native code, Sense in Android is Java. Unfortunately, the gains in terms of development ease gained with Java are offset by the inefficiencies of Java on lower-end hardware.
Also, the problem with Sense is that it needs to be ripped from a Sense-enabled HTC native Android device, and in many cases, the binary has enough customization that it does Bad Things on our devices.
As I understand it, the only Sense-enabled build seen on our devices so far was 2.1, and had, as you mention, resolution issues.
Also keep in mind that the Windows Mobile stock UI was very dated, so Sense was a major upgrade for it. My experience with Sense-enabled Android devices is that it offers very little and just slows the device down. Actually, this seems true for all manufacturer-provided alternate interfaces (like the crappiness of MOTOBLUR...)
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Just to back this up, I used one of Tiad's Froyo Sense builds for a bout 2 minutes. It it not worth it. Definitely, not worth it.
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Just to back this up, I used one of Tiad's Froyo Sense builds for a bout 2 minutes. It it not worth it. Definitely, not worth it.
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Where did you get Froyo Build from Tiad including Sense? AFAIK he just released Eclaire builds containing the UI...
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Where did you get Froyo Build from Tiad including Sense? AFAIK he just released Eclaire builds containing the UI...
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He claimed they were Froyo, I only looked at it literally for a minute and never noted what it actually was. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Eclaire.
Anyway, when I get this bloody repo sync command to go through without errors I will start making my own builds I guarantee, they will be better than Tiad, and I don't exactly plan on including any warez
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He claimed they were Froyo, I only looked at it literally for a minute and never noted what it actually was. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Eclaire.
Anyway, when I get this bloody repo sync command to go through without errors I will start making my own builds I guarantee, they will be better than Tiad, and I don't exactly plan on including any warez
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Are you going to make sense-builds or do you plan to develop on stock android ports?
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Sense in Winmo is native code, Sense in Android is Java. Unfortunately, the gains in terms of development ease gained with Java are offset by the inefficiencies of Java on lower-end hardware.
Also, the problem with Sense is that it needs to be ripped from a Sense-enabled HTC native Android device, and in many cases, the binary has enough customization that it does Bad Things on our devices.
As I understand it, the only Sense-enabled build seen on our devices so far was 2.1, and had, as you mention, resolution issues.
Also keep in mind that the Windows Mobile stock UI was very dated, so Sense was a major upgrade for it. My experience with Sense-enabled Android devices is that it offers very little and just slows the device down. Actually, this seems true for all manufacturer-provided alternate interfaces (like the crappiness of MOTOBLUR...)
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Thank you. This makes some sense of it (no pun intended). I know there are other widgets that use less resources and look better than sense but I like the look and feel of it. I am probably going to be upgrading to an Evo 4g or Evo 3g so I'll have my sense soon anyway but I was able to get some use from the 2.1 sense build once I used a new kernel and used the "clean slate" scene setting. The only thing missing was the camera. I can get by with some sluggishness as I have been using Windows Mobile for a long time but I cannot get by without that camera support seen in the newer 2.2 builds. Also, the Hero has the same CPU speed as the Rhodium. I am not sure if this makes much difference but the phones are very similar in both screen size and processor speed. As well as the Evo Shift as far as screen. I am still new to all this though and those subtle similarities may really be nothing. I'll keep searching and post if I find anything.
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Just to back this up, I used one of Tiad's Froyo Sense builds for a bout 2 minutes. It it not worth it. Definitely, not worth it.
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Where did you get those builds? That was the question I asked in the initial post lol. I love testing so I don't really care if they suck.
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Where did you get those builds? That was the question I asked in the initial post lol. I love testing so I don't really care if they suck.
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On his website, because tiad8 has been banned from xda-devs.
@nickelghandi
Maybe you can test the panda homescreen with sense theme.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2/113446-nsfw-post-your-tp2-android-home-screen-7.html
Hi,
Is there any way to install some of the Sense applications (Music, Video, Image player) on a HTC Touch Pro2 with the CBX0 Android ROM?. I have a Hero device with almost the same hardware and the Sense applications runs well and I´m use with these applications.
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clarf
clarf said:
Hi,
Is there any way to install some of the Sense applications (Music, Video, Image player) on a HTC Touch Pro2 with the CBX0 Android ROM?. I have a Hero device with almost the same hardware and the Sense applications runs well and I´m use with these applications.
Regards,
clarf
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If you can find the APK's, maybe.
But Sense is a proprietary thing. So it's not 'open' - not easily ported/moved to other devices. All XDAndroid builds are AOSP - straight from Google. All open source.
Good luck. If you want, there's a 2.1 Eclair Sense build - but it hasn't been updated since 2010.
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If you can find the APK's, maybe.
But Sense is a proprietary thing. So it's not 'open' - not easily ported/moved to other devices. All XDAndroid builds are AOSP - straight from Google. All open source.
Good luck. If you want, there's a 2.1 Eclair Sense build - but it hasn't been updated since 2010.
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Thanks for reply,
Well many functions on my HTC phone have issues with old kernel versions, I don´t think I could use Eclair Sense if it´s not maintained/updated.
I´ll search first for the APK´s then...
Thank you
clarf
clarf said:
Thanks for reply,
Well many functions on my HTC phone have issues with old kernel versions, I don´t think I could use Eclair Sense if it´s not maintained/updated.
I´ll search first for the APK´s then...
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clarf
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You could always try a new kernel on an old system...
But either way, that stuff is ancient.
Sorry I've been gone for a while, and my old thunderbolt is still running a Senseless version of Gingertheory (gingerbread) Rom, I would like to upgrade to a newer gingerbread rom now...what is the ASOP stuff? please enlighten me on which Rom I should run...I've got a replacement phone from Verizon, my text messages were all screwed up and not coming in properly. Anyways. I guess I should download clockwork mod on my new phone.
I don't need bloatware, just basics and a fast phone with good battery life.
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Sorry I've been gone for a while, and my old thunderbolt is still running a Senseless version of Gingertheory (gingerbread) Rom, I would like to upgrade to a newer gingerbread rom now...what is the ASOP stuff? please enlighten me on which Rom I should run...I've got a replacement phone from Verizon, my text messages were all screwed up and not coming in properly. Anyways. I guess I should download clockwork mod on my new phone.
I don't need bloatware, just basics and a fast phone with good battery life.
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The best GB Rom is whichever one you like.
for sense it would be a theory rom. for aosp either liquid or theory.
I am currently running gingeritis3D and i love it. I have not ran any other GB roms but i dont feel the need to. This rom is kicka$$ and so smooth. Got all the sense 3.0 goodies and the only bug that i know of an issue with voicemail which i fixed by just using google voice. I really highly recommend it
I was also told that the latest version (VIII) i based of the latest GB leak so its very stable
So what is ASOP? Can someone explain to me? Is it Senseless??
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So what is ASOP? Can someone explain to me? Is it Senseless??
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That's pretty clearly explained in my thread. Link in my sig.
NeoNxz said:
So what is ASOP? Can someone explain to me? Is it Senseless??
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Written by loonatik78
"Sense ROMs: Sense ROMs are built from RUUs, either officially released or leaked. An RUU is the complete update file for a handset; including the bootloader, radio, and ROM. Currently, all Gingerbread Sense ROMs are based on leaked RUUs. Each RUU has a version number, for example 2.10.605.0. The higher the number, the newer it is. Newer is generally better. Devs will usually include the base RUU version number in their OP. I like to think of custom ROMs developed on a common base as a family of sorts. They're going to generally have some similarities. They can have major differences as well. Some things about them won't ever change though.
Sense ROMs come in many flavors; 2.1, 2.1/3.0 hybrid, 3.0. It's really hard to tell what you like until you play with some and get to know them.
AOPS ROMs: AOSP ROMs are not built from leaked or released RUUs. They are built upon code obtained through the Android Open Source Project and are custom built for the devices. HTC, and manufactures in general, don't support AOSP being developed for their device. As a result, AOSP devs basically have to figure it out for themselves which makes the ROMs much more experimental. These ROMs typically come out in 1 or more versions, usually identified by date of release if it's a final release version, or an RC (release candidate) version if it's still in beta testing. Think of the version number and RC/beta number like the RUU number of a Sense ROM. For instance, CM7.0.3 may have several release versions that are only very slightly different. Then you may have several CM7.1.0 Beta or RC candidates that may less stable, but being offered for real world use and user feed back. That's basically the picture for the dInc currently, not the Tbolt, so don't quote me. CM releases are generally going to all look and feel the same and carry the same group of features. OMFGB is going to be making a name for itself with different features and characteristics. You won't know which you like until you try them."
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Written by loonatik78
"Sense ROMs: Sense ROMs are built from RUUs, either officially released or leaked. An RUU is the complete update file for a handset; including the bootloader, radio, and ROM. Currently, all Gingerbread Sense ROMs are based on leaked RUUs. Each RUU has a version number, for example 2.10.605.0. The higher the number, the newer it is. Newer is generally better. Devs will usually include the base RUU version number in their OP. I like to think of custom ROMs developed on a common base as a family of sorts. They're going to generally have some similarities. They can have major differences as well. Some things about them won't ever change though.
Sense ROMs come in many flavors; 2.1, 2.1/3.0 hybrid, 3.0. It's really hard to tell what you like until you play with some and get to know them.
AOPS ROMs: AOSP ROMs are not built from leaked or released RUUs. They are built upon code obtained through the Android Open Source Project and are custom built for the devices. HTC, and manufactures in general, don't support AOSP being developed for their device. As a result, AOSP devs basically have to figure it out for themselves which makes the ROMs much more experimental. These ROMs typically come out in 1 or more versions, usually identified by date of release if it's a final release version, or an RC (release candidate) version if it's still in beta testing. Think of the version number and RC/beta number like the RUU number of a Sense ROM. For instance, CM7.0.3 may have several release versions that are only very slightly different. Then you may have several CM7.1.0 Beta or RC candidates that may less stable, but being offered for real world use and user feed back. That's basically the picture for the dInc currently, not the Tbolt, so don't quote me. CM releases are generally going to all look and feel the same and carry the same group of features. OMFGB is going to be making a name for itself with different features and characteristics. You won't know which you like until you try them."
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Thank you...Given this I will go with an AOSP rom..which do you guys prefer?
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Thank you...Given this I will go with an AOSP rom..which do you guys prefer?
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Highly subjective question, but i like cyanogen mod. The latest version is generally not posted for it on xda though. Have to go to rootzwiki to find it under their thunderbolt forum.
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Thank you...Given this I will go with an AOSP rom..which do you guys prefer?
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Cm7 or omgb/omfgb are good. Can't really go wrong with those
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thunderstick 2.2 is great very smoth find it in rom manager.He also has some great mods to go with it
Im running SHIFTAO5P from DROIDTH3ORY. Its fast and awesome on battery life
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thunderstick 2.2 is great very smoth find it in rom manager.He also has some great mods to go with it
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I went with thunderstick 2.2...read into the AOSP threads and saw the voice mail issue and don't want any problems now...so far so good! thanks guys
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I went with thunderstick 2.2...read into the AOSP threads and saw the voice mail issue and don't want any problems now...so far so good! thanks guys
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The voicemail issues are with Sense ROMS... not AOSP. VM notifications actually work on AOSP.
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I have tried most sense based ROMs, I keep going back to Gingeritis 3D. BAMF is a close second, all other ROMs I have tried I get FC issues, and other wierd **** where I will just flash back to 3D. Keep in mind, each phone is different, so results will vary. Try them all out, nandroid is your friend!