Does anyone knows how to reclaim more memory from the phone ?
It is using too much memory without any program running.
This may be obvious, but did you try removing programs from /Windows/Startup?
The best way would be for us to have a cooked rom!
Move IE caché to Storage Card?
Dodge0069 said:
This may be obvious, but did you try removing programs from /Windows/Startup?
The best way would be for us to have a cooked rom!
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As known, there are two memory areas: Storage and Program.
You can save storage memory by installing on Storage Card as many apps as you can.
You can save program memory soft resetting or, less radical, by using a program to liberate memory as MemMaid or sktools.
Don't forget to clean all the cachés from I Explorer, Google Maps, and so on.
By the way, on former devices I was able to move the I Explorer caché to the storage card using MemMaid or Sktools, but I can't on TG01
Any Idea?
I assume he was talking about RAM (Program Memory).
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I assume he was talking about RAM (Program Memory).
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Yes RAM, I was trying to install Manila 2.1.
But thanks to you all for your reply.
Yeh little ram is big problem fir us all
Try rom in my signature FFBOY's 6.1, 110mb free at boot clean, about 70mb with sense installed. Also phone is faster than ever!
With this ROM
the ROM(*) with the dymanic page files seem to be consistantly fast, even though the free ram figures are not the highest, the performance of the device seems good
(*I'm using one of Novembre5's ROMs)
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I have a problem with my O2. In <setting>, <system>, <memory>, I see that the "memory in use" in "programs" side keeps increasing, while I never installed any programs. And "memory in use" in "storage" is OK (no increase). I already tried to use "remover" but there are some files (e.g. MSGQUEUE...) cannot be removed. Any solution? What's the problem?
I join in on this problem. I looked up files bigger than 64K, but the biggest one is CompatcFlashBAckuUpNew (28,7MB). I guess that's just my calender (about 1 or 2 appointments per day) and my Contacts (about 200, but only name and tel.nr.!). Can someone help us out? Where can we get a good manual, where things like memorymanagement for dummies is thouroughly explained? The manual on the pda itself is not enough to me!
Now let me try to give you some answers....
I see that the "memory in use" in "programs" side keeps increasing, while I never installed any programs. And "memory in use" in "storage" is OK (no increase).
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Storage is the memory on your device where all you´re additonal Software appears. Also your files like notes and all this. (when you don´t put it to a storage card.
Programs is the memory that you have free for running programs All running Programs need a little bit of memory, so that is why this side increases....
Just go two taps in front to see the chapter Running Programs. Close them you didn´t use actualy and you will get more free memory....
CompatcFlashBAckuUpNew (28,7MB).
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This is like the name shows a Backup from your Data in the file system. I´m sure you picked up at least one time the program SDbackup. I´m also sure, that this File is on your Storage Card...
HTH
Stefan
LumpiStefan,
Thanks for the fast reply.
1. You are probably right on the point that the CompactFlashBackUpNew is on the sdcard (wiht sdbackup). Doing 'find' files larger than 64KB it only lists files with a little icon of a red box in a little white box beneath it - that probably means that it's on de sdcard. So that shouldn't be the problem. Thanks.
2. There is no additional software installed. When I stop all running programs on the 'Running Program List', I have a total main memory of 31.21MB. Free storage memory = 0.93MB and Free program Memory = 1.21MB. The only removable program is the keyboard driver.
greetings,
Lionel
Don´t know where this came from.....
Probably you´re syncing your emails with your PC and also syncing the attachements. This may be an possibility why your Memory is so low. Have you tried to save the attachements to the storage Card?
I´m using my xda for a while now, haveing also about 200 Contacts and installed the Tomtom-Software. My totaly free memory is about 17 MB...
Regards
Stefan
Many thanks Stefan,
I can now be sure that something is wrong with the memory. I've been wondering about this for a few months now. I have no more mail synched with my xda and before the attachments were indeed saved to storage card. I'll just do a hard reset and start all over again.
greetings,
Lionel
Thanks Stefan,
I managed to fix my problem, but if I explore the content of files, I can see big files which I don't know how to erase??? (e.g. MSGQUEUEDATA/MICROSOFT/...) Any solution?
Is there ANY way to increase Device storage on HD 2 (Windows 6.5), and not to hard reset the phone after that? I really love apps, and I've installed pretty much all the neat cabs that I've found among tips and tweaks here (and elsewhere too), and when it was possible - I've installed them on storage card, but some of them doesn't work that way, so I had to install them on Device...And add to that bunch of programs as Freda, BsB, Cookie Home Tab and Editor, SlovoEd Dictionary etc....And, I've already taken care that all of my music, videos and pictures are placed in SD, My documents. But, whatever I do, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MEMORY ON MY DEVICE STORAGE ((((((((( !!!!!And it's always critical...HELP ((please.....
you need to clear the cache memory of opera , HTC ablum ..... etc ...
Use the Clear temp .... it takes care of all this temp memory ...
I too had same problem .... its so buggin with no storage memory space in the device ...
Since I am not able to post outside link ..... ask the same question in facebook ,,, in HD2Apps link ...
Thanks for the advice! I've found Cleartemp, installed it, and cleared junk...gain about 7MB of space :/ :S (OMG, I'm going to kill myself)...and just found out that the international HD2 (the one I have) has only 448MB of RAM, and 512 ROM, that can't be increased ... While USA Version has 576MB of RAM, and 1GB ROM which is much more cheerful..And what's the point of my SD 16 GB (with 6 GB of free space), when my phone isn't working properly with critically low Device memory...Now, that's sad ....
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Thanks for the advice! I've found Cleartemp, installed it, and cleared junk...gain about 7MB of space :/ :S (OMG, I'm going to kill myself)...and just found out that the international HD2 (the one I have) has only 448MB of RAM, and 512 ROM, that can't be increased ... While USA Version has 576MB of RAM, and 1GB ROM which is much more cheerful..And what's the point of my SD 16 GB (with 6 GB of free space), when my phone isn't working properly with critically low Device memory...Now, that's sad ....
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don't get depressed, you can install most of the apps to the storage card (and keep in device memory only the system ones, as e.g. cookies home tab etc.), then search xda forums for tweaks to move internet explorer and opera cache files to storage card, use clearttemp from time to time (or invest in MemMaid), and you should not lack memory any more
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Is there ANY way to increase Device storage on HD 2 (Windows 6.5), and not to hard reset the phone after that? I really love apps, and I've installed pretty much all the neat cabs that I've found among tips and tweaks here (and elsewhere too), and when it was possible - I've installed them on storage card, but some of them doesn't work that way, so I had to install them on Device...And add to that bunch of programs as Freda, BsB, Cookie Home Tab and Editor, SlovoEd Dictionary etc....And, I've already taken care that all of my music, videos and pictures are placed in SD, My documents. But, whatever I do, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MEMORY ON MY DEVICE STORAGE ((((((((( !!!!!And it's always critical...HELP ((please.....
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you should install cleanram as it helps free some ram...also get cleartemp as it'll show you what's eating your space up like googlemap and youtube caches so you can delete them easily...and finally don't forget to soft reset
the next tip helps MOST
one more very important thing which saves a LOT of space if you're on stock rom or your cooked rom doesnt have it(highly unlikely) is moving the album cache...read the thread here and look out for 4tune's cab
you should also read tboy200's thread and look at tips 65 and 67
Thanks, this was very helpful ... I'm happy again ! I've already got tired of reseting my phone..twice a day minimum
Is there a way too increase the internal memory? I use Android booster to close all running apps before I run Zinio. After awhile I would get a warning that I'm running low on memory. I have the 250GB model. Is it possible to use some of the hard drive for additional memory when the internal memory runs low?
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Is there a way too increase the internal memory? I use Android booster to close all running apps before I run Zinio. After awhile I would get a warning that I'm running low on memory. I have the 250GB model. Is it possible to use some of the hard drive for additional memory when the internal memory runs low?
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Apps that are able to be moved to the SD card are dependent on whether the developer has enabled that option. To do so, go into settings > applications > manage apps and individually go through them. There should be a button that says either move to phone or move to SD, if it is possible to do so.
To see what is really taking up space, run DiskUsage - Android app on AppBrain or a similar app and it hopefully will tell you what is the largest items.
Also, sometimes just clearing caches out will help as well.
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I believe he is talking about memory, not storage. currently no one has posted any success in soldering in new RAM. The Swap option gives you some limited ability to use storage as memory, but it can only do so much.
Moved to proper forum.
You have 2 options:
Compcache
Swap
For both you need UD
And:
You shouldnt use a Memory Optimizer or so These apps ruin your Ram usage
After googling and searching alot, i didnt find my answer
so hope someone can help me here, and this will help others too.
so install apps on SD Card or Internal memory ?
The internal phone memory is generally of a lesser amount than the amount of the memory you'd have on a SD card. You cannot really change the amount of internal memory you have on your phone but you can always get a new SD card with a larger storage capacity.
So when you have apps that need a lot of space it is better to have them installed on the SD card.
will installing more apps on internal memory make the phone run slower ???
I don't think it will make the phone run slower, but you'll have lesser storage space for your other data which is stored in the internal storage like your contacts etc.
i have an HTC Sensation XE running on Darkforest ROM, this is my RAM (pic) how can i increase the free memory, thats the max i get around 180MB free
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Can I know why you wish to free up the RAM? In most cases you really don't need to because the OS manages that quite efficiently. It will free up the RAM and make room for the running applications whenever it needs to.
cuz in some apps after opening them for a while and try to close this app the phone restarts, so i read that its cuz of low RAM
please correct me if am mistaken
180 mb is a lot of RAM for a single application to use. And as I said, the OS, is pretty good at managing it. Although I cannot exactly tell you why your phone might be restarting when you close some apps, I don't really think it would be cause of the low RAM.
I checked my phone and it had about the same amount of RAM occupied as yours(i.e. 2 thirds of the total capacity). Then i started a game called Fruit Ninja which uses 3d graphics, which should need a lot of RAM. Then i pressed home and checked the RAM usage again. Even then the RAM usage did not go up by much.
You should try to verify this on your phone too. Check the amount of RAM thats being used. Then start the application thats causing the problem. Press the home button and check the RAM usage again.
An app will probably run quicker from internal mem because flash storage is much slower, but youre'e limited by space constraints.
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Well it might load into the RAM quicker. But I don't really think there is much of a difference in speed while its running. Unless there are a lot of loading and writing operations.
Pay attention to one thing: internal storage and ram are not the same thing.
Ram is commonly allocated on a high speed journaled partition and it is 1000 times or more faster than both the internal emmc or the external SD (that'd why a swap partition is not as fast as real ram).
Just for the I/O parallelism, an app installed on the external sd could very likely run faster than one that resides in the internal emmc. Anyway, it also depends on the class of the external sd, though the class counts only when writing sequential data, while reading could even be faster when using a lower class SD.
lucaoldb said:
Pay attention to one thing: internal storage and ram are not the same thing.
Ram is commonly allocated on a high speed journaled partition and it is 1000 times or more faster than both the internal emmc or the external SD (that'd why a swap partition is not as fast as real ram).
Just for the I/O parallelism, an app installed on the external sd could very likely run faster than one that resides in the internal emmc. Anyway, it also depends on the class of the external sd, though the class counts only when writing sequential data, while reading could even be faster when using a lower class SD.
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Doesn't an application get loaded into the RAM first when its started? So would its execution speed still depend on the sd/internal memory?
I thought that would come into the picture only when theres some kind of read/write thats happening to the sd/internal memory...
Well, if it is true that any app run inside the dalvik vm and such vm is able to run simultaneously multiple apps in its sandbox, I suppose that any app could need to access its installation files and its stored data while running.... I am not sure, anyway, it is just what I believe it could be.
To be true, my supposition mostly derives from what I've experienced with chrooted linux, which run faster when the .img file is stored on the external sd.
Anyway, if it should be as you say, the app's speed would be totally independent from the support where it was installed.
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Well, if it is true that any app run inside the dalvik vm and such vm is able to run simultaneously multiple apps in its sandbox, I suppose that any app could need to access its installation files and its stored data while running.... I am not sure, anyway, it is just what I believe it could be.
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That is what I exactly meant. Although it differs from case to case, an application typically loads all the stored data it needs at the start. And then throughout the execution of this application, loading/saving of data is generally rare.
Of course this is a very generalized statement and such things are handled differently by different applications depending on how they were implemented and what they are intended to do.
Consider for example a game. The game would load all the textures, images, music it would need for a particular level. Then throughout the entire period of the level the game wouldn't need to load any data. It is only when some different support data would be needed by the game, or if the player's state is to be saved there would be a read/write operation. At such a time only would there be a need to access the sd/internal memory. So it really doesn't make the difference of where the game is installed very noticable.
Now on the other hand if you have an application say an Image viewer application which loads an image from the the sd/internal memory every time the "next" button is pressed. Then, maybe you'd have a noticable difference based on where the image is being loaded from. But even typical image viewers implement some sort of image caching to reduce such excessive loading.
Widgets
I had a problem where apps that used a widget option did, not give that feature anymore when the app is moved to the SD card...
Hi!
I noticed a trend: whenever my internal memory is about half full, the phone starts lagging terribly. When I clean the memory (usually by deleting some blobs of misc files in the 0 directory), the phone is amazingly fast. Can anyone tell me why that is? Are we not supposed to use this internal space? Or is the problem in the type of files I am deleting, are they slowing the system down? I'm guessing this might be a general Android issue.
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I noticed a trend: whenever my internal memory is about half full, the phone starts lagging terribly. When I clean the memory (usually by deleting some blobs of misc files in the 0 directory), the phone is amazingly fast. Can anyone tell me why that is? Are we not supposed to use this internal space? Or is the problem in the type of files I am deleting, are they slowing the system down? I'm guessing this might be a general Android issue.
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of course yes. no apps installed=faster phone. once you start installing and using apps, the ram is used.. you already know that. once the ram is used, it depends on how much free ram is left. more free ram=faster phone. if you would like to: root and install greenify. that would help a bit.
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of course yes. no apps installed=faster phone. once you start installing and using apps, the ram is used.. you already know that. once the ram is used, it depends on how much free ram is left. more free ram=faster phone. if you would like to: root and install greenify. that would help a bit.
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The problem is that I am not installing/uninstalling apps. And I mean the internal ROM space, in my case, 16 Gb, not the RAM. As for greenify, the opinions on that piece of software are divided, some are comparing it to the useless task killers. And anyway, I tried it and it did nothing for me.
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The problem is that I am not installing/uninstalling apps. And I mean the internal ROM space, in my case, 16 Gb, not the RAM. As for greenify, the opinions on that piece of software are divided, some are comparing it to the useless task killers. And anyway, I tried it and it did nothing for me.
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all are related. the more internal space the apps occupy, the more ram is used and hence it starts lagging.
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The problem is that I am not installing/uninstalling apps. And I mean the internal ROM space, in my case, 16 Gb, not the RAM. As for greenify, the opinions on that piece of software are divided, some are comparing it to the useless task killers. And anyway, I tried it and it did nothing for me.
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Read the greenify thread you will know it is not 'some useless task killer'
sent from the state where marijuana is NOT illegal !
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all are related. the more internal space the apps occupy, the more ram is used and hence it starts lagging.
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The "Internal phone storage" refers to the portion of on-board flash space set aside for APK files, databases, preferences, and other local files.
RAM has nothing to do with internal storage.Running programs (OS and end-user apps) consume RAM, but only while they are running. And RAM gets wiped on a reboot or while using task managers.
Only apps/system processes running in background takes up RAM. More apps doesnt automatically mean more RAM wasted.
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The "Internal phone storage" refers to the portion of on-board flash space set aside for APK files, databases, preferences, and other local files.
RAM has nothing to do with internal storage.Running programs (OS and end-user apps) consume RAM, but only while they are running. And RAM gets wiped on a reboot or while using task managers.
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that is good description. also please solve his problem if you can.
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After you install an App and start using them, small secondary data files are created automatically. These files are stored inside the device and act as a cache for future use for the apps. Even though these cache files are very small in size initially, they pick up size over a period of time. Cache memory is supposed to speed up app and Android device performance. But too much of cache will have opposite effect. Your device performance will slow down considerably and also you lose lot of internal memory.
But this still doesnt explain how deleting certain files on 0 folder improve the speed ! if you could explain which files you deleted that might help in finding the cause.
Does he mean the 0 folder that 4.2 installation creates?
Only way I can see clearing space on the internal sd card would help is if you have a lot of bad blocks, which the emmc chip is tripping over on each write.
I've never used the internal sd to store anything, never had a freeze or stutter either. The two might not be linked but given the awful memory design of these phones I'm trying to avoid the problem occurring.