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Okay, let me know if i'm way off base here, or just not taking formats into account, but when i received my photon (yay sprint premier) a few days ago, i noticed that it only said i had 8.47gb free of space, now i already know 3gb is dedicated for something in the phone, really don't remember, and i tossed my old evo 8gb sd in for more space, but why the misleading ad of 16gb internal storage!?!
there is 16gigs of internal storage, but the amount available is not given on the box. Yes this is misleading, but they did not lie.
2.8gig's for installing apps makes me not care that another 5gigs is being used for Webtop. So all in all 8+gigs for video/pics/extra app content is more then enough. And like you I threw in my old 8gig SD and have the same amount of storage as my old Vibrant now, but I have more space for apps. So I'm a happy camper with that and the rest of the phone
Yep, it's 16GB of total internal storage, partitioned among the system, Webtop, etc.
Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 15.9 GB, 15914762240 bytes
~500MB for /system
~3GB for /data
~650MB for /cache
~1.3GB for /osh (webtop)
~350MB for /preinstall
~9GB for /sdcard (internal storage)
And a lot of little partitions dividing up the space even further.
bane449 said:
Yep, it's 16GB of total internal storage, partitioned among the system, Webtop, etc.
Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 15.9 GB, 15914762240 bytes
~500MB for /system
~3GB for /data
~650MB for /cache
~1.3GB for /osh (webtop)
~350MB for /preinstall
~9GB for /sdcard (internal storage)
And a lot of little partitions dividing up the space even further.
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reddragon72 said:
there is 16gigs of internal storage, but the amount available is not given on the box. Yes this is misleading, but they did not lie.
2.8gig's for installing apps makes me not care that another 5gigs is being used for Webtop. So all in all 8+gigs for video/pics/extra app content is more then enough. And like you I threw in my old 8gig SD and have the same amount of storage as my old Vibrant now, but I have more space for apps. So I'm a happy camper with that and the rest of the phone
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hmmm, well since i don't have it the dock or the need for webtop (moto phone portal is good enough) is there anyway to get that bit of space back??
A2CKilla said:
hmmm, well since i don't have it the dock or the need for webtop (moto phone portal is good enough) is there anyway to get that bit of space back??
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Not without repartitioning the internal structure of the phone, which is not possible at this time.
Beknatok said:
Not without repartitioning the internal structure of the phone, which is not possible at this time.
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I presume once we get an unlocked bootloader/root, that will become possible?
MultiDev said:
I presume once we get an unlocked bootloader/root, that will become possible?
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Yes. Mind you, repartitioning the internals of your phone is NOT for the faint of heart.
Yeah not sure why you would want to gain that space back anyways. 16gb sd are pretty cheap.
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Yeah not sure why you would want to gain that space back anyways. 16gb sd are pretty cheap.
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Shoot 8gigs is even cheaper, not by much, and 16 gig's in a phone is really good, especially with unlimited data to stream music from the internet via your provider of choice.
I'm still unclear on the amount of space there is for apps without using an SD card. If someone could clear this up further please.
My phone reads as follows:
Application storage - 2.65gb available space (out of how much?)
Internal storage - 8.92gb total 8.61gb available (what is this space used for?)
Where is the remaining to get 16?
Exactly how much total space does this phone have, without an sd card, for installed apps?
CCallahan said:
Where is the remaining to get 16?
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Post #3 gives the exact partition breakdown.
Beknatok said:
Post #3 gives the exact partition breakdown.
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How was that info found? Spare Parts?
That breakdown doesn't equal 16gb unless I'm missing something. Also, that breakdown says there is 9gb for internal storage but what about apps? Phone says there is only 2.65gb available. Need some clarification please.
CCallahan said:
How was that info found? Spare Parts?
That breakdown doesn't equal 16gb unless I'm missing something. Also, that breakdown says there is 9gb for internal storage but what about apps? Phone says there is only 2.65gb available. Need some clarification please.
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Via ABD shell & a linux disk usage command (forgot the exact syntax).
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Yeah not sure why you would want to gain that space back anyways. 16gb sd are pretty cheap.
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Guess i made a good question and where sir??? most 16gb cards cost $30+
I think its an 9 a least. Mine. You can get there by pressing menu, settings, storage about
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I got a 32gb on ebay for around that price. You can find the 16gb even cheaper.
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Guess i made a good question and where sir??? most 16gb cards cost $30+
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178381
Cheap is never good unless it is a good 'deal'. This is a great deal for a 32gb micro, class 10 which for me is very important. I think anything lower than a class 6 is a waste. You get more errors, file corruption and just failure when you get the cheap ones. Thats why now when you buy an evo/evo3d they are at least class 4's which when I bought mine they were class 2's. Guess they got enough complaints.
For me, Ebay is never a good choice unless you know it is what it says it is, and with electronics you never know until you actually get it.
-DJ
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178381
Cheap is never good unless it is a good 'deal'. This is a great deal for a 32gb micro, class 10 which for me is very important. I think anything lower than a class 6 is a waste. You get more errors, file corruption and just failure when you get the cheap ones. Thats why now when you buy an evo/evo3d they are at least class 4's which when I bought mine they were class 2's. Guess they got enough complaints.
For me, Ebay is never a good choice unless you know it is what it says it is, and with electronics you never know until you actually get it.
-DJ
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I have been in IT for almost 30 years, Unless I missed something, no such thing as a class 10 MicroSDHC. 2, 4, and 6. I have class 2 SanDisk MicroSDHC and Im happy. Think it was $110.00USD?
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I have been in IT for almost 30 years, Unless I missed something, no such thing as a class 10 MicroSDHC. 2, 4, and 6. I have class 2 SanDisk MicroSDHC and Im happy. Think it was $110.00USD?
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Just had to google it and popped right up.
http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=us...auncher&action=devloc&q=class+10+microsd+card
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dsims7_2000 said:
I have been in IT for almost 30 years, Unless I missed something, no such thing as a class 10 MicroSDHC. 2, 4, and 6. I have class 2 SanDisk MicroSDHC and Im happy. Think it was $110.00USD?
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Did you even click the link dude? Class 10's are all over the place. Being in IT for years means nothing. I have been in IT for years and that pertains to absolutely nothing about a micro sd card being available in class 10....lol
And go ahead and slap yourself in the face for paying that much for a class 2. I got some property I will sell you. Honestly it is cheap...
People are funny
-DJ
About to purchase the tmobile galaxy s 3 and ive noticed they come as a 16gb rom or a 32gb rom. Not sure if it is worth the extra $50 or not. What do you guys think? Not exatly sure what the benefit in the long run will be if so. Please explain if possible, thanks.
I don't think it's worth the extra $50. If you really want 32GB, you could just buy an external microSD card and stick it in (up to 64GB I believe). I got the 16GB phone and put in my 16GB microSD card which costs much less than $50 these days. Plus, you'd have do wait until they get the 32GB version of the phone.
I dont think its that necessary. You can expand with a microSD card up to 64GB, and you also get 50GB of DropBox storage when you buy the phone. Im just gonna get the 16GB White model when it comes out.
I'm noticias 100% sure in S3 case but usually internal memory is faster than external cards. You must consider it.
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emptyness said:
I'm not 100% sure in the S3 case, but usually internal memory is faster than external cards. You must consider it.
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1) Can anyone else confirm the above
2) Does anyone know if there is a removable battery on this gs3?
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1) Can anyone else confirm the above
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Even if it's true, it doesn't matter. I have a Class 6 64GB Sandisk card in there and just dropped 9 gigs of music onto my phone in a minute. You can buy a 64 gb card from newegg for around $40.
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2) Does anyone know if there is a removable battery on this gs3?
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Yes, it has a removable battery.
kelmerp said:
Even if it's true, it doesn't matter. I have a Class 6 64GB Sandisk card in there and just dropped 9 gigs of music onto my phone in a minute. You can buy a 64 gb card from newegg for around $40.
Yes, it has a removable battery.
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Can you link the $40 64gb card?
IF you have the need go head. IT all comes down to it.
In my case, I need the internal storage for 1080p videos, pictures, apps, data apps.
And then I use the microsd card for my 35GB music collection. (Yes, I like to go around with my entire music collection in my pocket)
So for me, my choice is 32GB Galaxy S 3 and a 64GB microSD card.
isn't $50 already a bargain for double the storage? last that i remember the phones were $100 more.
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Can you link the $40 64gb card?
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Prices appear to have gone up. Here's a link to the card I bought for $50. It's now $70. If you keep your eyes open I'm sure more deals will come your way.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobile-microSDXC-Memory-619659070076/dp/B005LFT40G
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About to purchase the tmobile galaxy s 3 and ive noticed they come as a 16gb rom or a 32gb rom. Not sure if it is worth the extra $50 or not. What do you guys think? Not exatly sure what the benefit in the long run will be if so. Please explain if possible, thanks.
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the reason everyone is going bat**** over the SGSIII is because of the microSD slot. there's absolutely no reason for you to get a 32GB phone since you can pop in a 64GB microSD card if you needed more space. better question to ask yourself: what is the capacity of your current phone? if you maxed out, double the space and that's what you should be aiming for on the SGSIII. :good:
If you have to ask, do you think you need it?
I've a 64 GB µSD card whose limits I'm already reaching. $50 is a lot for 16 GB but it's not a question I need to answer.
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IF you have the need go head. IT all comes down to it.
In my case, I need the internal storage for 1080p videos, pictures, apps, data apps.
And then I use the microsd card for my 35GB music collection. (Yes, I like to go around with my entire music collection in my pocket)
So for me, my choice is 32GB Galaxy S 3 and a 64GB microSD card.
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Yup, I'd prefer a 64gb phone with a 64gb card lol. Never too much.
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For 50 bucks of u plan on keeping the phone for awhile id say get it.sucks when u think about or like ur paying 50 for a 16gb sd but when u consider 1st that its 16gb that u will never be able to expand to any other way and 2nd Apple would charge like 200 bucks for that extra space it makes the sting a lil easier to swallow.now of they made 256gb sd cards it would be a different story lol but since we are limited in how big of a sd card is available I'll take that extra 16 err 14....whatever ever formatting gb any day for 50 bones.nothing worst then running out of space
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What's the deal with Samsung gs3 being like gnexus and mtp only or something? Can that be changed with different rom?
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For $30 I got a class 10 32gb SanDisk card that I have in now.. Amazon.
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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobile-Ultra-microSDHC-SDSDQY-032G-U46/dp/B005SZ4X28/ref=pd_cp_e_1 28 for 32gb. Not sure if its class 1. Can someone check for me?
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If you have to ask, do you think you need it?
I've a 64 GB µSD card whose limits I'm already reaching. $50 is a lot for 16 GB but it's not a question I need to answer.
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That's about what I'd say. Depends on your usage. Only you know. For me 16GB is a lot.
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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobile-Ultra-microSDHC-SDSDQY-032G-U46/dp/B005SZ4X28/ref=pd_cp_e_1 28 for 32gb. Not sure if its class 1. Can someone check for me?
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that's a CLASS 6 (SIX).
I plan on keeping mine for 2-3 years, so the more storage the better, so to me a 32gb phone with a 32-64gb sd card makes a lot of sense, but it really only matters what you want/need it for
Is the phone reserving space for system files?:0
Actually your internal is 8 gb.
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Is the phone reserving space for system files?:0
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Yes, from what i read at other sections, your phone specs says 16gb internal memory but 8gb is being used as your phone partition. So yea, you can only use 8gb of it.
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Yes, from what i read at other sections, your phone specs says 16gb internal memory but 8gb is being used as your phone partition. So yea, you can only use 8gb of it.
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Ahhhhhh.. That explains:0 But half is quite an amount to take away from us
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Ahhhhhh.. That explains:0 But half is quite an amount to take away from us
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Indeed it is. On the Droid 3, which has 16GB of space, around 11GB of it is usable if I remember correctly (too lazy to boot my D3 up right now and check. I think it's dead and needs to be charged anyways...).
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Ahhhhhh.. That explains:0 But half is quite an amount to take away from us
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I assume most of that was used on webtop, but since ICS webtop it's just ICS in tablet mode so... Why don't repartition and give us 10 - 11 GB?
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I assume most of that was used on webtop, but since ICS webtop it's just ICS in tablet mode so... Why don't repartition and give us 10 - 11 GB?
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I also wonder why. 10 or 11 gb could be nice for gamer like me.:thumbup:
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Just keep in mind that your phone supports the newish 64gb micro-sdxc cards. Shop around, keep an eye out and you'll find it on sale. They were at best Buy for $50 a few weeks ago. I paid $70 for mine a couple months back
stoopid partitions
Aelyus said:
I assume most of that was used on webtop, but since ICS webtop it's just ICS in tablet mode so... Why don't repartition and give us 10 - 11 GB?
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Actually, Motorola partitioned the RAZR to use up almost 1/2 of the internal space for the OS and applications. Then they "generously" give you the rest as storage. I personally don't mind it because I barely use the 32GB on my phone, but if I didn't have that space, I would be rather upset.
Does anyone have any issues with the high capacity SD cards with the note 3? I will put a file on it, use it just fine but 5 minutes later the file is gone!!! Can the Note 3 accept a 125 GB class 10 SD card at all?
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Does anyone have any issues with the high capacity SD cards with the note 3? I will put a file on it, use it just fine but 5 minutes later the file is gone!!! Can the Note 3 accept a 125 GB class 10 SD card at all?
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I assume you mean 128gb, and yes. I've had a 128gb class 10 in mine for close to a year now and it's working great.
The problem you describe is a well known issue with SD cards that have gone bad. It's an attempt by the built in controller on the card to preserve whatever is on the card currently.
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I assume you mean 128gb, and yes. I've had a 128gb class 10 in mine for close to a year now and it's working great.
The problem you describe is a well known issue with SD cards that have gone bad. It's an attempt by the built in controller on the card to preserve whatever is on the card currently.
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The thing is I just bought the thing and just put it in the phone yesterday
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I assume you mean 128gb, and yes. I've had a 128gb class 10 in mine for close to a year now and it's working great.
The problem you describe is a well known issue with SD cards that have gone bad. It's an attempt by the built in controller on the card to preserve whatever is on the card currently.
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No, I mean 125 gb
SD cards don't usually come on odd sizes. Almost always a power of 8. Weird.
Also, just because you bought it yesterday doesn't mean it's not bad. Ever heard of manufacturing defects? Id be willing to bet it's faulty, but you could always try reformatting it to see if that works or helps.
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No, I mean 125 gb
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There is no 125gb sdcard. Return it.
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garyfunk said:
There is no 125gb sdcard. Return it.
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I formatted it, then I partitioned it. Now works fine. It was a China made cheapy. I paid $ 10 for it and a USB-otg online. The usb-otg works great too. So everything's fine now. Appreciate the info and help
If you paid $10 for a "125gb" card then that card is fake. Its probably a 16gb card made to look like 128. Try copying 125gb to it and see if can hold
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I formatted it, then I partitioned it. Now works fine. It was a China made cheapy. I paid $ 10 for it and a USB-otg online. The usb-otg works great too. So everything's fine now. Appreciate the info and help
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It is almost certainly a fake with only 4-16 GB or so of actual memory, but which self-misrepresents as 128 GB and never returns any error writing (even if it is not writing anything at all).
Copy about 16 GB of actual (lerge) files on it and then compare by content the original files and the copy. Then remember that saying - if it looks too good to be true then probably something is wrong.
definitely fake one. $10 for 125g(??), too good to be true.
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No, I mean 125 gb
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you got a picture of it?
Sorry for my stupidity, but it IS a 128 GB micro SD card. I was looking at the storage size through settings then selecting storage. Was just having a brainfart I guess. I formatted SD card. Now having zero issues
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Sorry for my stupidity, but it IS a 128 GB micro SD card. I was looking at the storage size through settings then selecting storage. Was just having a brainfart I guess. I formatted SD card. Now having zero issues
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In that case, where did you buy for $10?
Wish app in google play store
kuromusha38 said:
In that case, where did you buy for $10?
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Wish app on Google Play Store
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Wish app on Google Play Store
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What brand is your card? I bet it's not Sandisk or Samsung
Is it no name brand like this one?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Class-10...14?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item27eefe0972
Samsung
Samsung 32 gb class 10
I thought about getting one but was compatible
16gb is not even close to enough space I have 4 games alone that would eat up this space. I bought a 128 gb add in card to give me a total of 144 gb this should be more than enough right? No, every time I try and move something over to the card it unmounts. Verified the card is good on my computer. Tried both exFAT and NTFS with the same issues. Is this a ROM issue? If so Is there a 6.0 I can upgrade to once without having to go to a 5.0 just to redo everything when 6.0 is "official"? Right now this phone is worthless to me until I can get more space on it.
Really disenchanted with this phone after the Oneplus One worked so well a flawlessly.
Same problem here.
Im on stock unrooted 5.1.1 with oxygenos 2.1.3-x.
Hope there is a fix for this problem
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16gb is not even close to enough space I have 4 games alone that would eat up this space. I bought a 128 gb add in card to give me a total of 144 gb this should be more than enough right? No, every time I try and move something over to the card it unmounts. Verified the card is good on my computer. Tried both exFAT and NTFS with the same issues. Is this a ROM issue? If so Is there a 6.0 I can upgrade to once without having to go to a 5.0 just to redo everything when 6.0 is "official"? Right now this phone is worthless to me until I can get more space on it.
Really disenchanted with this phone after the Oneplus One worked so well a flawlessly.
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Two things I can suggest to make sure it's actually the phone's problem:
1) Try another (ideally lower GB capacity) SD card and see if it does the same thing.
2) Try to format the SD card to FAT32.
I've got a 32GB card and it's formated with FAT32. After 2 hours of checking the problem is still persistent.
The problem is only showing in some cases, if apps try to access the external storage. If I delete stuff with the files application there is no problem. When I add folders to the card there is no problem either and I also can save files on the sd card manually.
Isn't there the probability it's a software fault in the applications with this problem?
I did a 16 and a 32 as well specs say it supports 128gb, same result.
Just did Fat32 as well, same result.
I am seriously thinking this may be a rom issue and I am hoping to hell its not a hardware design issue.
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16gb is not even close to enough space I have 4 games alone that would eat up this space. I bought a 128 gb add in card to give me a total of 144 gb this should be more than enough right? No, every time I try and move something over to the card it unmounts. Verified the card is good on my computer. Tried both exFAT and NTFS with the same issues. Is this a ROM issue? If so Is there a 6.0 I can upgrade to once without having to go to a 5.0 just to redo everything when 6.0 is "official"? Right now this phone is worthless to me until I can get more space on it.
Really disenchanted with this phone after the Oneplus One worked so well a flawlessly.
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Fat32 works fine for me, i use 64GB Evo+
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Funk Wizard said:
Fat32 works fine for me, i use 64GB Evo+
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What version OS? I want to check vrs my own rom because this is getitng stupid. also what type of micro SD card is it? XD or non and class please? Trying to compare apples to apples.
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What version OS? I want to check vrs my own rom because this is getitng stupid. also what type of micro SD card is it? XD or non and class please? Trying to compare apples to apples.
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Running the latest 2.1.3-X and its a Samsung 64GB Evo+ XC I
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Running the latest 2.1.3-X and its a Samsung 64GB Evo+ XC I
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Thanks. I am using the same version and the card really does not seem to be the problem at all. I did card checks on them. I did all the different formats. These cards are all working flawlessly on my computer and in multiple other devices. I just opened a ticket with their support and it says it is 10 days response!!!! If I play around with rom flashing will they still take it back if I can't make these work? 16gb is not something I can live with and at 20+ bucks a pop I don't want to have to go around card searching.
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Thanks. I am using the same version and the card really does not seem to be the problem at all. I did card checks on them. I did all the different formats. These cards are all working flawlessly on my computer and in multiple other devices. I just opened a ticket with their support and it says it is 10 days response!!!! If I play around with rom flashing will they still take it back if I can't make these work? 16gb is not something I can live with and at 20+ bucks a pop I don't want to have to go around card searching.
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Can you please post their answer in this thread. Then I can decide whether opening a ticket as well, or not. Thanks.
At first,didn't you know the X has only 16 gb before buying the phone ?
ludoke said:
At first,didn't you know the X has only 16 gb before buying the phone ?
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I knew the X only has 16gb. But I assumed, as the specs tell, there is a sd card slot inside, ready to use and that's currently not the case. And the sd card slot was one of the features which led me to buy this phone.
I had the same problem. Are you rooted? If you are, try this. It worked for me. Titanium Backup kept telling me I had insufficient space on my 128gb card, but this fixed it. All it does is make a platform.xml edit.
SDFix
OnePlus said an OTA is planned for early January with more fixes for SD card and gaming performance improvements, seems just the kind of update you need
Nice. I hope this will fix the problem. Thanks for the info
@StumpedTechy: Die OnePlus reply anything or are you still waiting? It would be nice to know how to deal with this problem