For all of you with extended batteries AND WM6.5, can you tell me how well they work [and which battery/ROM combo]?
I remember reading a few posts about the Mugen 4500 mAh and the 3xxx mAh batteries requiring the owner to remove the battery and reinstall it after it turns off, as the phone doesn't measure the amount of charge left properly.
Is this true in your experiences?
What about the HTC/OEM Extended 2150 battery? Does that require a battery removal to get the phone to recognize and use the full potential?
I have the Sprint Stock/OEM 6.5 ROM that just came out, for comparison purposes.
Thanks!
I have the Tilt 2 on TPC's latest 23544 build and the 2150 OEM. It's the only extended battery I've ever had that doesn't require the "battery trick" (remove and reinsert battery).
I just received my htc oem extended battery and I placed it in and there are no notification lights while charging. Now It is charging while powered on and I can see that in the taskbar above with battery icon, but as far as the hardware light(red or green depending on status) it is not lighting up at all. I know its probably not a rom issue since its an extended battery, but it is the only htc oem extended battery made specifically for the tilt 2. While the phone is off I cannot til if its charging so if there is anything I can do to try and correct it please let me know.
April 1 NRGZ 21898 2.5 w/cookie AT&T Tilt 2
I'd task 29 and flash a different ROM. My same battery works just fine and dandy.
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I picked up the extended battery for my Hermes 100 (running 19701.1.1.0 PV DVH (G&C) with 1.54.30.10 radio) since I was not happy about the OEM battery life.
Now I am facing this problem of the batteries not fully charging. Even after overnight charging my phone would be showing 50% (I use battery status) If I reset the phone now with charger connected, would show 80% charge. If I remove the battery for a minute and put it back on then OEM battery would show 100% charge and the extended battery would show 90%.
I've tried charging the extended battery with the phone off for 18 hrs but the light never turned green.
Can some one help me with this my batteries are also draining very fast compared to my old prophet by 8 hrs of regular usage I am down to 10% (with backlight on minimum, and 3G turned off) . Could some one gimme the tips to get over the charging issue and conserve battery power? Thanks in advance
I am using Hastarins 7.6 kernel with ext batt support and Froyostones 3.2 build (Most recent as of Oct 23)
I have done some extensive research, although, i have not yet figured out a way to get an accurate reading, in android, of my extended battery (life percentage)
I have calibrated my battery (charged to 100% w/ phone on, shut off phone and charged until green light, then booted android, then turned off and charged again until green, then turned on and booted android) only to find out that the battery discharges at the same rate as with the original battery all the way down to 0%.... but does not recognize that the battery holds twice as much power. so really, the 100% battery drains to 0% on extended battery but does not recognize that the battery still holds 50% of its power left
i have never deleted my "batterystats.bin" Because i can't find the file anywhere using a root explorer and even recovery, although, i was told that this step is not necessary in calibration.
I have current widget and my draw is around 60mA on standby with BOTH original and extended batteries but It seems the android OS cannot get accurate readings on the extended battery? It cannot multiply the battery meter by 2 so that the drainage is reciprocal to the larger battery, thus resulting in a slower drain (like 10%/hour drain with original battery would equal 5%/hour drain on extended) ?
correct me if i'm wrong somebody please, or am i missing a step (besides deleting the batterstats.bin which i cannot find out how to do even after downloading recovery)
anyone have any information on this ratio?? battery percentage reading and the extended battery? will they ever be compatible for correct readings??
i've got the same problem with a cameron sino 2400 mah battery, but not only on android! i also got the problem on windows mobile (on every radio and rom version).
after removing the battery out of the device, it will show the right percentage of the remaining batterypower, but the batteryindicator is still falling in the speed of the normal battery.
i couldn't find any solution yet, but maybe it's a battery internal problem of the chip inside the battery.
it looks like the device is reloading the battery-chip-data only when plugging in the battery.
can you tell me, if your battery also is a cameron sino battery? or is it an original?
have you recallibrate your battery? Let it drain till 0%, and keep try to turn device on until totally no vibrate, then charge to 100% after 100% turn phone off and charge till green light, unplug and charge with phone off for a few times.
i already calibrated mine many times, but no change in the result.
i have read from anywhere else in the internet, that most people got that problem with chinese extended batterys.
one of that guys ordered a 2300mah extended battery from the manufacturer leicke - looks like it is maybe the same as the original one and he said, the new battery dont have the problem anymore and is working correct.
i ordered the same battery yesterday (for 21,- euro) and i will test it myself. i think the problem is the chip inside the chinese batterys, that will tell the device its a small one.
by the way, my cameron sino 2400mah battery is made of two small batterys that are linked.
i disassembled it!
Thats guy is me ^^ . But I i really dont see the big different between extended and the original . Must i really do the "recalibrate thing " ?
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update: now i've got the leicke 2300mah battery with backcover and metal kickstand.
cover is fitting 100% and all looks and feels like its made of high quality.
the batterydraining ist detected correct and i dont have to remove the battery to see the current chargelevel.
the problem was that chinese crappy battery!
only one thing for androidusers: because of the most kernels don't support the extended batterys (temperature is reportet wrong and android is shutting down after booting), you need to change to a kernel like hastarin 7.7 or 7.8 that is supporting the extended batterys.
overclocking of the hastarin linux kernel work with overclock-apps, so there is no need for an overclocked kernel.
i'm very happy with that battery and it cost only 21 euro over amazon in germany.
i will never get a cheap chinese battery again
So, is it correct that batteries have some kind of chip in them?
yes, they do contain microcontroller
cheap chinese ripoffs often are just badly designed, made from low-cost cells and are very dangerous to use
So don't be surprised if your 'OEM' seico, chinapower, mugen, or whatever name doesn't hold promised charge or even work as original battery
Hi all,
I just bought a 3400 mAh extended battery on ebay . Is there a way to measure the battery capacity ? I used tbattery, but it seems not work correcly .
I like the battery very much, the battery cover fits 100% . But I still not get the battery to work, the power is still the same as the original battery. Do i need to install new roms or radio ?
Thx for reading !
Yes.
The pay electrical engineer would do it is:
- Have a multi-meter with ampmeter feature.
- Apply an electrical load (small light bulb or resistor) with ampmeter in series across the battery.
- With circuit closed, not ampmeter reading.
- Use stop watch and count how many minutes or hours the light stays running until the voltage drops a significant amount.
- The product of amps and hours is your wattage.
The Right Question is, How your device measures it?
Have you tried to remove and put back the battery again after your device says that the battery is over?
Yeahh, I just bought a new one 2300 mah by Leicke for only 20 euro. Used tbattery and it shows 2300 mah, the cover fit, kickstand is metal. Very happy now, thx all .
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So I'm running my aria on CM7-07282011-Nightly. I'm having battery issues, not battery-life issues, but general battery function issues. My stock battery died, then I bought two identical 1500mah batteries, which I have been charging with a standard Li-ion smart charger which I normally use for battery packs I build for various other projects. I just charge one battery while I use the other battery. Anyways the problem is that my phone's battery meter will never go over 80%. I boot up on a fully charged battery, and after two or three minutes have passed(when it first boots up it just shows the % it was at when I took the other battery out), the phone reads something like 74%.
I've thought maybe there was just a problem using two different batteries, so I tried charging one of these batteries in the phone and of course they stop a little above 70%, and sometimes the battery even drains while plugged into, well, any, of my 4 AC wall-plug type chargers or my computer.
I've tried wiping the battery stats, but it didn't do anything, and all the calibration methods I see say to charge until it's at 100%, which I can't get to...
I just wish there was a way to plug in an externally charged battery and reset the battery meter and force it to recognize whatever value is actually 100%....I've searched these forums and googled for two days and found no solution.
Does anyone know how I can fix this??
Try fixing permissions
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I'm not sure if there is anything you can do about it. There's almost always going to be some quirks with third party batteries.
A tip is never get 3rd party batteries and the batteries we use love charging so charge whenever possible because if you let your battery die before charging waste builds up and leaves less space for charging.
Signatures are fancy.
well, the phone works as long as if the battery has been charged to 100%, so I just wondered if the was something I could do...
So even if the batteries work a long time when fully charged from my external charger, there is no way to fix the battery meter? If I continue using it normally would battery stats eventually callibrate? they are good batteries...just seems like a software problem to me
Where did you buy the batteries from, E-bay??? E-bay and other on-line markets are loaded with Chinese knock-off batteries & SD cards that are fakes and/or not to manufacturer spec products.
If that's what you have, you can't expect the phone to "fix" it.
Battery stats do take a few days to calibrate, but I believe it should still show 100% when charged, if you have a real battery and not something out of spec.
I don't know what the manufacturer specs are, but a fully charged battery reads 4.2v, well within standard Li-ion open-circuit values. There is nothing wrong with these batteries....
chaldeman1984 said:
I don't know what the manufacturer specs are, but a fully charged battery reads 4.2v, well within standard Li-ion open-circuit values. There is nothing wrong with these batteries....
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Problem is that the percent battery available is not determined my measuring the cell voltage, rather reading a value out of the fuel gauge built into the battery pack. Li-Ion batteries have a rather flat discharge profile then crater at the end, making the cell voltage an unreliable predictor/measure of battery capacity.
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I recently bought a T-Mobile G1 and flashed it to:
EzGingerbread 20110828
Radio: 2.22.28.25
SPL: 1.33.0013d
I currently have a PowerGen battery, which came with the phone.
I do not have a data plan, so I run with WiFi off & autosync off when not at home, screen at 25% brightness most of the time. The battery takes excessively long to charge when using USB and AC charger (in this case, iPhone charger and a car charger for a GPS which outputs 5v, up to 1.2A IIRC). If I leave it on my bed untouched overnight with the mentioned settings at high battery charge (90%+), it's usually 25% or less when I wake up.
So, I'm thinking to buy an OEM battery. I see a T-Mobile 31463TMR Li-Ion Battery for HTC G1 available on Amazon that seems to have good reviews, as well as a HTC Innovations G1 Google Battery Drea160. Both appear to be OEM products - some received the 31463TMR when bought from a T-Mo store, and I've read Drea160 mentioned here previously. Which one would be the better choice, or is there an extended battery that is well lauded and does not require an extended cover?
I'd link to the said products rather than simply bolding them, but since this is my first post I am unable to do that. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Thanks.
Well, I purchased the T-Mobile 31463TMR Li-Ion Battery for HTC G1 from Amazon and it has a "DREA160" part #, and looks fine. It arrived with only a 1% charge, strangely; I'll let it die and recharge to full. I also ordered a replacement back cover and it has the same part number and markings as the original cover. I hope this battery will fare better than the one I was using previously.