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I was just wondering if anyone is running SPB Shell 3D on their phone and how they like it. Does it make the phone laggy? Is it a battery hog? I was thinking of getting it for my wife. She loves the phone but the UI is a little dull in her opinion and I wanted to kinda spice it up for her a bit. She was very discouraged when I told her the MoPho has almost zero dev support and she is now wondering if she made a mistake buying one. I am trying to explain to her that it's still an amazing phone but giving her a little "visual enhancement" with the 3D shell would go a long way I think.
Thanks in advance!
Ive had it for a few days and I love it. imo I noticed an improvement with the UI over the stock one.
my sister runs it on her photon. shes a pretty big user when it comes to Facebook and texting... blah blah blah. shes runs a stock photon rooted and has no issues. when i have used her phone just a few times, its memory is always around 320ish free where im not running 3dshell and have around 400ish. so it uses up a little more RAM, but i havent seen any big battery issues. she makes it through a whole work day with heavy use.
I would get it for myself, but its 15 bucks!!! im more interested in giving that money to developers within my phone to have other stuff.
but for your wife, i think she will greatly enjoy it. MY sister loves it and she runs it on her Samsung tab also that her 2 year old uses.
When you think about it... its probably a really good thing she has the same on both, allows the kids to be familiar with how moms phone works in case there is an emergency and they have to use their mammas phone. they will know how to navigate since its the same.
I like it alot. Don't notice any difference in battery life. I have had it restart a couple times. I think its the best. I have used it on every rom I've installed, homebase, alien, magnifier, jokers stock and skinny, even put it on cm7. Don't regret the $15 purchase at all.
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Just buy it and try it out. If she doesn't like it, get a refund.
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Just buy it and try it out. If she doesn't like it, get a refund.
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Google market doesn't give you enough time to properly try most apps, especially a launcher.
Buy it. I bought the SPB Shell when I had the HTC Evo. The launcher is really slick. The animations are awesome, and the SPB Widgets are pretty cool as well. Very little customization - meaning changing themes or colors (like a Go Launcher, or Launcher Pro), however it is one of the most responsive launchers that I have used. Definitely worth the $15. Your wife wil not complain!
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I bought it, but I don't use it... It just sits in my apps taunting me... Seriously though, if you use the webtop on the phone then you will end up hating it, it uses WAY to much memory. I am a very heavy webtop user and had to give it up, I couldn't have more than 2 tabs open in the browser without getting a low memory issue.
That said if you don't sport the webtop then you will not have any issues. The GUI is fast and when I did use it I noticed no impact on the battery. If it wasn't for webtop I would be all over it... But I do so love my webtop.
I have been using it for moths and love the smooth functional interface. Seems way more responsive than stock
I've been using it for quite a while. Runs smooth on the Photon and battery life is good. Just use home switcher from the Market and switch over to the stock UI before activating Webtop. Then just switch back when done.
Honestly, if all she wants is a UI change put LP or ADW on there with some themes and see what she says. Then use apps such as Beautiful Widgets, Folder Organizer, etc to customize the screens even more. All for little to no money spent.
BTW....SPB will give a refund past the 15min trial the Market gives if you send them an email request. Also, SPB can be had for $9.99 off Handster if you do the phone purchase and don't mind dl the updates manually.
I just don't see that there is 14 or even 10 dollars worth of software there.
I understand that this is why big names took and are still taking for ever with mobile developments (users won't pay a ton of cash for software any more), but really your paying for a bunch of ActionScript animations and that's about it, yeah its nifty and kind of cool to look at - but ADW EX has tons of animations as well, not to the level SPB does, but for 90% less than what SPB charges.
I purchased it last night and she seems to enjoy it but she said this morning she is having an issue with Handcent where she keeps getting the same 2 messages from her sister over and over again for the past hour. I wonder if the 2 progs don't play nice together. That would really suck since she probably wouldn't give up Handcent.
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I purchased it last night and she seems to enjoy it but she said this morning she is having an issue with Handcent where she keeps getting the same 2 messages from her sister over and over again for the past hour. I wonder if the 2 progs don't play nice together. That would really suck since she probably wouldn't give up Handcent.
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Handcent is widely used enough that I would assume it would work with everything.
I would try clearing App Data of Handcent.
So I sent an email to SPB Tech Support regarding the SMS problem and they basically said that it can't be their product doing it. That's bull**** since it didn't do it until I installed the shell on her phone. Their solution was to download home launcher from the market and use it to switch back to Moto-Blur. Wow, thanks for nothing.
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I purchased it last night and she seems to enjoy it but she said this morning she is having an issue with Handcent where she keeps getting the same 2 messages from her sister over and over again for the past hour. I wonder if the 2 progs don't play nice together. That would really suck since she probably wouldn't give up Handcent.
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This might not be an issue with Handcent. I have been having issues with text messages for about a week. They are all coming in 3-4 days late, and some of them keep getting pushed back to me no matter how many times I delete them. And, I am using the stock messaging app.
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So I sent an email to SPB Tech Support regarding the SMS problem and they basically said that it can't be their product doing it. That's bull**** since it didn't do it until I installed the shell on her phone. Their solution was to download home launcher from the market and use it to switch back to Moto-Blur. Wow, thanks for nothing.
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They might be right. Could just be a coincidence. I haven't figured out why the text issues are happening yet. My guess is it is Sprint because my configuration hasn't changed and SPB hasn't updated since Oct. 12th.
But how can it be sprint if it wasn't doing it 2 days ago before I installed SPB? Also, I am not having any issues on my 3VO with SMS either. It's definitely a phone issue.
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But how can it be sprint if it wasn't doing it 2 days ago before I installed SPB? Also, I am not having any issues on my 3VO with SMS either. It's definitely a phone issue.
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Its a common problem when using multiple msgr apps. Turn off notifications on one of them, or just uninstall handcent
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Bandage said:
Its a common problem when using multiple msgr apps. Turn off notifications on one of them, or just uninstall handcent
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I have already uninstalled handset and am just using the stock messaging app. Still does it.
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I have already uninstalled handset and am just using the stock messaging app. Still does it.
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I just don't see how it can be SPB since I have had it installed for a long time with the same setup. The last update to SPB was on Oct. 12th and I never experienced a problem until a week or so ago.
When time allows I will do some testing and see if I can figure out what is going on. There is a good chance another product might be causing the issue but will no more soon.
**Edit.....Forgot I did a battery pull last night and haven't had the issue occur yet. Will check it over the next few days and see what happens.
I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!
Sounds like you didn't wipe everything.
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#2 is the only bug I've experienced. Its only happened once since I've owned the phone so I left it alone.
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I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!
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1. To fix this problem, go to settings>applications and clear data for the Twitter app. This should fix the FC. If not, uninstall it and reinstall. I had the same problem and that fixed it. If you can't uninstall it using either the market or Settings>applications, use a file manager and go to /system/app/ and find the Twitter.apk and delete it there.
2. I personally haven't had this problem but many have with custom ROMs, I believe both Eternity and Warm TwoPointThree have this fixed now (as well as many others I'm sure). Do a search, I've seen this all over.
3. This used to bother me as well. It is frustrating. I have found no solution. I just made myself get over it because I like the Sense 3.0 Mms app so much, but sounds like you don't have a preference since you tried to replace it, so maybe try GoSMS, Handcent SMS, or any number of other SMS apps on the market.
Good luck!
The only time I ever experienced #2 was when I was running Warm twopointthree with Tiamat kernel. Switched back to the tweaked stock kernel included with warm and haven't seen the issue since. All in all, Warm twopointthree is pretty much everything I could ask of a rom- fast, stable, SVN access to update without requiring a full wipe whenever I get a spare moment, and most importantly an absolutely stellar team of devs behind the scenes.
P.S. wiping your phone when switching between roms is crucially important and can easily cause a myriad of strange and/or inexplicable issues/bugs/FCs etc. Just fyi if you weren't aware...certainly no offense meant
#2 sounds like a kernal issue only. Ziggy kernals were bad for me.
Why dont u use a completely stock rom? Its faster than any evo4g modded imo
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try not using custom kernels for a while..ive experienced the same issues and for me,going to a stock kernel fixes those issues.im on Myn's Warm rom and havent had any problems.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.
Never had any of these problems.
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.
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Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.
On phones with problem #2, everyone tells me to turn off my autobrightness. It works but then I don't have autobrightness so hit and miss there.
then go away cry baby.. damn
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then go away cry baby.. damn
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Lol.
Peace out brodda; I'm finally content w/ the newest version of MIUI. Still, who knows what might happen in the future.
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Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.
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I hate it when fast food places put mayonnaise on my burgers when I told them not to. Keep that nasty **** off of my sandwich!
#1 - I've never had a problem with the twitter app
#2 - I've had this issue when using the ziggy kernel thats why I don't use it (some ROMs use it)
#3 - I agree with you but I don't get a lot of SMS messages so I haven't had your degree of frustration.
So it boils down to #3 as the only real "issue". I did notice the other day that the lockscreen did have a SMS count. Doubt that helps you at all. Good luck with the new phone and I hope it doesn't have any bugs.. I don't know of any device that is perfect even iPhones have some issues.
All I have heard about for years is iPhones blah blah blah. Well, as an avid enjoyer of this digital era we are in I decided to try out an iPhone 4s a few weeks ago.
I used a white 16gb and used it solely. Overall it is a nice phone. Wait? Huh? Yeah I said it. But there a re many reasons I just couldn't keep it...I'm android. I'm not an iPhone guy.
Pros.
Always good call quality
Speaker is loud and clear
Can send a full recorded video to any other iPhone and send any recorded video to another phone (although it compresses the hell out of it...it does send)
Camera, sharp fast clear.
Screen quality (yes its so small)
Battery life ( I could avg 5-6 hours usage time solely on 3g no wifi one days use)
Cons
Little bitty display
Could not Bluetooth pics to my wife's nexus.
No t9 dialer (but found an app)
No sextube app! Lol
0 3rd party apps (i know, common knowledge but crap)
Keyboard was...difficult. but I'm sure with tiny fingers manageable.
Not hardly any customization. Open it up from box. Turn on. Use it. Enjoy kind of feeling.
I updated it to ios6 and well...it looked almost identical to ios5. It just felt old and dated. Lost google maps too.
Basically I read a lot of people wanting to hang themselves with a charger at the thought of owning an iPhone. I tried it and while I don't want to chop my fingers off it wasn't a miserable experience. There were some perks I would like to see in android.
Being able to send any video and edit video on the fly was a plus.
Other than that I just missed every android phone I had used up until then. Some people love that phone and that's cool. I just wanted to share my take on it.
It's deffinantly technology and the os to me has,been,surpassed by jellybean. In all areas. So as far as don't knock it til you try it goes? I did. And coukdnt be happier selling that **** and getting back to my android powered devices.
I guess it's nice to see something objective and mature on the site.
Personally, the only thing that really, really, REALLY keeps me far away from any Apple device is the requirement that I use an iTunes account. I don't want to touch iTunes at all. You couldn't make me touch it with a ten foot pole.
You can edit videos just fine on Android, and as far as sending them, forget compression, upload it to dropbox and text the link to ur friends for download. This is way better because it'll be higher quality.
Or you could upload straight to YouTube, or Picasa, or send in an email, I'm not seeing the difficulty here.
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All I have heard about for years is iPhones blah blah blah. Well, as an avid enjoyer of this digital era we are in I decided to try out an iPhone 4s a few weeks ago.
I used a white 16gb and used it solely. Overall it is a nice phone. Wait? Huh? Yeah I said it. But there a re many reasons I just couldn't keep it...I'm android. I'm not an iPhone guy.
Pros.
Always good call quality
Speaker is loud and clear
Can send a full recorded video to any other iPhone and send any recorded video to another phone (although it compresses the hell out of it...it does send)
Camera, sharp fast clear.
Screen quality (yes its so small)
Battery life ( I could avg 5-6 hours usage time solely on 3g no wifi one days use)
Cons
Little bitty display
Could not Bluetooth pics to my wife's nexus.
No t9 dialer (but found an app)
No sextube app! Lol
0 3rd party apps (i know, common knowledge but crap)
Keyboard was...difficult. but I'm sure with tiny fingers manageable.
Not hardly any customization. Open it up from box. Turn on. Use it. Enjoy kind of feeling.
I updated it to ios6 and well...it looked almost identical to ios5. It just felt old and dated. Lost google maps too.
Basically I read a lot of people wanting to hang themselves with a charger at the thought of owning an iPhone. I tried it and while I don't want to chop my fingers off it wasn't a miserable experience. There were some perks I would like to see in android.
Being able to send any video and edit video on the fly was a plus.
Other than that I just missed every android phone I had used up until then. Some people love that phone and that's cool. I just wanted to share my take on it.
It's deffinantly technology and the os to me has,been,surpassed by jellybean. In all areas. So as far as don't knock it til you try it goes? I did. And coukdnt be happier selling that **** and getting back to my android powered devices.
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Not to sound like a douche but I think just about every smart phone has all those pros.
+1 very mature post.
I've stayed away from iPhone ever since I traded in my iPhone 4 for the inc2 and never looked back. As op stated, the ios is getting old fast. With hardly any major updates besides copying androids pull down notifications and now a bigger yet awkward resolution screen.
IPhone is a great phone for someone like my elderly mother, or a teenage girl. But not for me
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+1 very mature post.
I've stayed away from iPhone ever since I traded in my iPhone 4 for the inc2 and never looked back. As op stated, the ios is getting old fast. With hardly any major updates besides copying androids pull down notifications and now a bigger yet awkward resolution screen.
IPhone is a great phone for someone like my elderly mother, or a teenage girl. But not for me
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You mentioned in another thread you were from Montana may I ask where? I live in Bozeman my self..
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You can edit videos just fine on Android, and as far as sending them, forget compression, upload it to dropbox and text the link to ur friends for download. This is way better because it'll be higher quality.
Or you could upload straight to YouTube, or Picasa, or send in an email, I'm not seeing the difficulty here.
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That's why I am saying that I wish android could make a change and make it to where android could recognize another android device and send a full hd video you just recorded to another android device. Only thing I wish I had still. Why would you want to wait for a 30 sec hd video you upload, then send the link when you could have just sent it as an mms. That's a small gripe but an iPhone can send a full hd video to another iPhone without compressing it. It shows up crystal clear. Doesn't take a long time. Not arguing, I know there are other ways. I just prefer the simplest method.
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That's why I am saying that I wish android could make a change and make it to where android could recognize another android device and send a full hd video you just recorded to another android device. Only thing I wish I had still. Why would you want to wait for a 30 sec hd video you upload, then send the link when you could have just sent it as an mms. That's a small gripe but an iPhone can send a full hd video to another iPhone without compressing it. It shows up crystal clear. Doesn't take a long time. Not arguing, I know there are other ways. I just prefer the simplest method.
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*on wifi.
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*on wifi.
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Never noticed that. I sent a few 10 to 15 sec vids back and forth without any issues to my sister-in-law. Maybe that's for a larger video dunno. Don't have the phone anymore.
Last gripe was iTunes. That store is very confusing to navigate. Not as intuitive as play store with a search at the top.
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Never noticed that. I sent a few 10 to 15 sec vids back and forth without any issues to my sister-in-law. Maybe that's for a larger video dunno. Don't have the phone anymore.
Last gripe was iTunes. That store is very confusing to navigate. Not as intuitive as play store with a search at the top.
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That is a huge downside to the iPhone, can't download apps over like 5 mb, music, videos, or really anything else on 3g.
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You mentioned in another thread you were from Montana may I ask where? I live in Bozeman my self..
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I'm in Polson area, an hour from Missoula and Kalispell. I just moved here from Colorado though not used to the open country
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I'm in Polson area, an hour from Missoula and Kalispell. I just moved here from Colorado though not used to the open country
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Nice I moved up here from lasvefag you can imagine the change of scenery for me.. lol
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I've been saying this for a while. Android needs an iMessage competitor because quite frankly, iMessage is genius. Android also needs better battery life and I was glad to hear that 4.2 or whatever will have improvements but I was sad to see nothing about a universal messaging app. There's 4 messaging apps for gods sake.
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I've been saying this for a while. Android needs an iMessage competitor because quite frankly, iMessage is genius. Android also needs better battery life and I was glad to hear that 4.2 or whatever will have improvements but I was sad to see nothing about a universal messaging app. There's 4 messaging apps for gods sake.
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Gtalk.
GrayTheWolf said:
Gtalk.
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It needs to be integrated into the messaging app like iMessage and also the default way to send messages to other phones, again like iMessage
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GrayTheWolf said:
Gtalk.
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Yeah if they could incorporate it into the SMS app and have it use phone numbers it would be a competitor.
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GrayTheWolf said:
Gtalk.
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They need to make it better. It hasn't really changed it all and it could use some features like:
-integration into one app(sms/mms/gtalk/google+)
-integration of phone number so it'll know who your texting and make it free
-full Emoji support. (4.1 only has black and white android emojis)
-more
Gtalk is nice but, it lacks features.
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That is a huge downside to the iPhone, can't download apps over like 5 mb, music, videos, or really anything else on 3g.
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Apps over somewhere around 20 mb require WiFi, ill have to double check the exact size limit.
You can download music videos and other files without that limit. You can also stream media as long as you want.
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OP you did a nice job with the post I think. I agree with you. I really love Android, and it all depends on what the user needs. I'm pretty hardcore into Android, I also have a 4S I carry next to my rezound. They each have their strong points. My iPhone is bone stock and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Yeah I wasn't trying to dog anything. Just bring up some of my interpretations.
If gtalk could check the number and allow mms they could have imessage by the balls imo
emmhmm androids messaging apps (all of them) need to be completely overhauled. basically the only thing I prefer on iOS.
I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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erikmarko said:
I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
balintmaci said:
smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
blueglide said:
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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tacarat said:
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
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Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.
Hello, long time DX2 rom user here. I have been using CM7 for awhile now, and the phone has slowed itself down considerably since I first flashed it. The biggest problem is that I think some of my text messages are taking a really long time to reach the person I'm sending them to.
I'd really hate to have to re-flash CM7 or even switch to Eclipse, but that right now looks like the only option. Has anyone else ever had this issue with a ROM? Thanks.
LeadoffMan131 said:
Hello, long time DX2 rom user here. I have been using CM7 for awhile now, and the phone has slowed itself down considerably since I first flashed it. The biggest problem is that I think some of my text messages are taking a really long time to reach the person I'm sending them to.
I'd really hate to have to re-flash CM7 or even switch to Eclipse, but that right now looks like the only option. Has anyone else ever had this issue with a ROM? Thanks.
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I never was on cm7 long enough to notice the delayed sms. I have experienced lag on virtually every ROM I've been on with this phone. I would check to make sure you aren't running too many apps or widgets that use data in the background. You can always clear cache and dalvik. Or wipe data if you don't mind starting over. All of the ROMs I've used have run smooth and quick right away. I would guess that you have some background processes running. Even if our phone had 1 gb of ram we would still notice it slowing down a bit, but it would take a while longer. I am loving cm10 right now because I'm able in developer settings to limit background processes to 3 and it really seems to help. I'm not sure that cm7 has that option.
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I used this ROM for about 1 week and after the first day I started receiving delayed messages, and my phone started sending them late too. Honestly this is a know issue about CM7 so yes SOME people may experience this, I'm currently using liberty 3 and I love it! I used Liberty 3 for about 2 months and so far it runs smooth with no lag whatsoever. :laugh:
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I used this ROM for about 1 week and after the first day I started receiving delayed messages, and my phone started sending them late too. Honestly this is a know issue about CM7 so yes SOME people may experience this, I'm currently using liberty 3 and I love it! I used Liberty 3 for about 2 months and so far it runs smooth with no lag whatsoever. :laugh:
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Really? I didn't know that it was a known issue with CM7. I CANNOT have it because the girl I'm talking to is starting to think I'm purposely waiting 5 hours to reply to her texts LOL.
Looks like I'll be going back to Eclipse when I have the time.
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Really? I didn't know that it was a known issue with CM7. I CANNOT have it because the girl I'm talking to is starting to think I'm purposely waiting 5 hours to reply to her texts LOL.
Looks like I'll be going back to Eclipse when I have the time.
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That is the exact same problem I had with my girl when i was using this ROM ! XD she would get mad when it wasn't my fault
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That is the exact same problem I had with my girl when i was using this ROM ! XD she would get mad when it wasn't my fault
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LOL that's funny. They're crazy enough as it is, I can't afford to have my Custom Rom making things worse HAHAHA
Just remember girls are never wrong XD haha and sorry for getting off topic here ha
Same problem with CM7, I think at this point it's a known issue. I was also receiving the same messages 3-7 times in a row, which I thought was weird. Wiped and Reflashed. Fixed both issues.