[VENT] Sick of bugs in Sense/ROMs! - HTC EVO 3D

I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!

Sounds like you didn't wipe everything.
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#2 is the only bug I've experienced. Its only happened once since I've owned the phone so I left it alone.
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veesonic said:
I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!
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1. To fix this problem, go to settings>applications and clear data for the Twitter app. This should fix the FC. If not, uninstall it and reinstall. I had the same problem and that fixed it. If you can't uninstall it using either the market or Settings>applications, use a file manager and go to /system/app/ and find the Twitter.apk and delete it there.
2. I personally haven't had this problem but many have with custom ROMs, I believe both Eternity and Warm TwoPointThree have this fixed now (as well as many others I'm sure). Do a search, I've seen this all over.
3. This used to bother me as well. It is frustrating. I have found no solution. I just made myself get over it because I like the Sense 3.0 Mms app so much, but sounds like you don't have a preference since you tried to replace it, so maybe try GoSMS, Handcent SMS, or any number of other SMS apps on the market.
Good luck!

The only time I ever experienced #2 was when I was running Warm twopointthree with Tiamat kernel. Switched back to the tweaked stock kernel included with warm and haven't seen the issue since. All in all, Warm twopointthree is pretty much everything I could ask of a rom- fast, stable, SVN access to update without requiring a full wipe whenever I get a spare moment, and most importantly an absolutely stellar team of devs behind the scenes.
P.S. wiping your phone when switching between roms is crucially important and can easily cause a myriad of strange and/or inexplicable issues/bugs/FCs etc. Just fyi if you weren't aware...certainly no offense meant

#2 sounds like a kernal issue only. Ziggy kernals were bad for me.
Why dont u use a completely stock rom? Its faster than any evo4g modded imo
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try not using custom kernels for a while..ive experienced the same issues and for me,going to a stock kernel fixes those issues.im on Myn's Warm rom and havent had any problems.

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.

Never had any of these problems.

veesonic said:
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.
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Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.

On phones with problem #2, everyone tells me to turn off my autobrightness. It works but then I don't have autobrightness so hit and miss there.

then go away cry baby.. damn

heathmcabee said:
then go away cry baby.. damn
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Lol.
Peace out brodda; I'm finally content w/ the newest version of MIUI. Still, who knows what might happen in the future.

diestarbucks said:
Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.
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Lol lol +2
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I hate it when fast food places put mayonnaise on my burgers when I told them not to. Keep that nasty **** off of my sandwich!

#1 - I've never had a problem with the twitter app
#2 - I've had this issue when using the ziggy kernel thats why I don't use it (some ROMs use it)
#3 - I agree with you but I don't get a lot of SMS messages so I haven't had your degree of frustration.
So it boils down to #3 as the only real "issue". I did notice the other day that the lockscreen did have a SMS count. Doubt that helps you at all. Good luck with the new phone and I hope it doesn't have any bugs.. I don't know of any device that is perfect even iPhones have some issues.

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Buggy ROMs?

Are you guys noticing that a lot of the custom ROMs out now are pretty buggy? I have tried about 10 ROMs in the last two weeks, and usually they seem great at first. Eventually weird things start happening, like sluggish rotation behavior, or random reboots. Sometimes MMS messages will not send, sometimes texts get hung up and I have to delete all my threads... I've had my phone freeze while sleeping, and missed alarms. I find myself flashing a ROM almost every other day, because it seems that I don't notice a huge problem until it has a day to settle on my phone. One problem that really annoys me is that in the Gallery app, on some ROMs, when you rotate the phone, the picture flys off the screen for a second or so, then re-centers itself. In general I've had issues with 3G/1X, and sometimes even calls being sent to voicemail without ringing. I also notice that from one ROM to the next, battery life can be dramatically different, despite having the same exact settings.
When I had my un-rooted Evo 3D, I had barely any of those problems. I definitely never had it freeze during the middle of the night, or overheat, or get wildly-sluggish. Now, with my stock ROM, I never had as SMOOTH as an experience as the fastest custom ROM I've used, and I've also never had as great battery life as the longest-lasting custom ROM out there. I just wish there was a way to take all the good things from every ROM out there, and put it into one, perfect ROM. I have seen the ROMs that claim to do this, but they still tend to have basic flaws. It makes me think that an updated base is to blame for a lot of this. The first round of custom ROMs I had that were based off the original stock seemed rock-solid. Now I've tried just about everything, and there are glaring problems with each of them. Sometimes I am embarassed because my phone has powered off during very important times--like on-call situations at night.
I have multiple wipe APKs, but I was told that the newer superwipe was the end-all be-all of wiping, so that's what I've been using lately. Right now I am using one of the more stable ROMs, Revolution HD 1.1.1, but I still get the random picture movement when rotating in Gallery, I still get really bad 3G/1X problems, where I have to frequently turn off mobile data to get it back... I have had it reboot on me twice in the last 2 days. One thing that really pisses me off, which is not specific to this ROM, is that when I am on WIFI, MMS messages tend not to send or receive... I can't recall if the original stock ROM had this problem or not. I have this issue with stock messaging as well as Handcent. The moment I disable WIFI, my messages appear with images.
Being that I didn't have these issues with truly stock ROMs, I don't believe it is a hardware issue. Am I the only one experiencing these problems, or are others just glossing over these sort of reliability issues, and accounting them to being a flashaholic, or something similar? The only reason I keep flashing is to find one that is rock solid. If I could get the original stock ROM with battery life to get me through an entire day, I'd be happy, but it didn't come close.
What ROMs did you try?
MMS Messages send and receive over WiFi for me just fine (Sense ROM) but on AOSP, they will not.
I suggest you try one of the lesser popular ROMs, as the top ones seem to have the most issues according to my reading and research.
If you want a fast, stable and great battery life that just works check out CleanROM. It is basically stock with the junk pulled out. The dev is very hands. Worth looking at the very least.
well it's a good thing everybody is not having the same issues you are so we know to ignore this useless thread. thanks for the info and cool story bro.
i have two words for you... user. error.
i have never had one issue with cleanrom, steel rom, or WTSB rom... or smokin rom...
all of which would easily be classified as "top roms" as you put it.
and right now i am on virus' eternity 1.4.... been on it, with the same kernel, same settings, etc... for roughly two weeks. zero issues there as well.
sooooooooooo..... either everybody just got lucky, or you are causing the issues you described.
i never have noticed even a blip of lag on eternity.
cobraboy85 said:
well it's a good thing everybody is not having the same issues you are so we know to ignore this useless thread. thanks for the info and cool story bro.
i have two words for you... user. error.
i have never had one issue with cleanrom, steel rom, or WTSB rom... or smokin rom...
all of which would easily be classified as "top roms" as you put it.
and right now i am on virus' eternity 1.4.... been on it, with the same kernel, same settings, etc... for roughly two weeks. zero issues there as well.
sooooooooooo..... either everybody just got lucky, or you are causing the issues you described.
i never have noticed even a blip of lag on eternity.
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Everyone uses their device differently, has wildly different settings, applications, amount of time per day spent doing one thing or another. In some cases we can consider there to be user error, but this really is unlikely in this case. The problem lies in the fact that we have more ROM"chefs" than developers that actually have the knowledge to code their own ROM from the ground up, instead of pasting other peoples work together and calling it an advancement. You can't provide support or bug fixes for work that isn't your's and you have little to no coding experience. Most of these roms are like some you mentioned; a ROM that just has simple things like "bloat" taken out. Those types of chefs have a purpose here, and their roms are nice for some users but they aren't doing much for the improvement of Android overall, and they don't know enough to be trying to slap features in that they can't debug...
Anyway, rant over. I think your reply was hasty and offensive, not to mention based on what I have seen, inaccurate. I think you have been lucky personally because you are using roms like clean ROM that don't add or change much. Therefore you really wouldn't experience what this user is referring to.
I get random reboots often. The mms over wifi has never been an issue though.
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cobraboy85 said:
well it's a good thing everybody is not having the same issues you are so we know to ignore this useless thread. thanks for the info and cool story bro.
i have two words for you... user. error.
i have never had one issue with cleanrom, steel rom, or WTSB rom... or smokin rom...
all of which would easily be classified as "top roms" as you put it.
and right now i am on virus' eternity 1.4.... been on it, with the same kernel, same settings, etc... for roughly two weeks. zero issues there as well.
sooooooooooo..... either everybody just got lucky, or you are causing the issues you described.
i never have noticed even a blip of lag on eternity.
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Thanks for the info and cool story bro.
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Have you tried to install a ROM and not install any apps to make sure it's not app related. I've heard of lots of apps not playing well with certain roms. Just a thought.
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Two words. ANDROID REVOLUTION! check it out.
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Sad Panda said:
Everyone uses their device differently, has wildly different settings, applications, amount of time per day spent doing one thing or another. In some cases we can consider there to be user error, but this really is unlikely in this case. The problem lies in the fact that we have more ROM"chefs" than developers that actually have the knowledge to code their own ROM from the ground up, instead of pasting other peoples work together and calling it an advancement. You can't provide support or bug fixes for work that isn't your's and you have little to no coding experience. Most of these roms are like some you mentioned; a ROM that just has simple things like "bloat" taken out. Those types of chefs have a purpose here, and their roms are nice for some users but they aren't doing much for the improvement of Android overall, and they don't know enough to be trying to slap features in that they can't debug...
Anyway, rant over. I think your reply was hasty and offensive, not to mention based on what I have seen, inaccurate. I think you have been lucky personally because you are using roms like clean ROM that don't add or change much. Therefore you really wouldn't experience what this user is referring to.
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Yes to some extent I see your point. Smokin rom is a build based on steel rom... steel rom however, is just steel rom. Clean rom has had little issues with previous builds but scott being a dev has worked everything out and optimized that rom to the max... and it has its own tweaks to it as well. Same thing with steel rom. I'm not sure what wtsb is based off of but I have never had problems with that one either.
And virus rom is damn near flawless. I have never had a problem with... ever. Since day one. Been running 1.4 for over 2 weeks and it is just as fast as it was the day I flashed it. So im confused by the op's post when he says after a few days they have all lagged and become slow
Was I a little harsh? Maybe. But was I right to think this person is simply complaining and wasting my time? Absolutely. This thread is just him complaining, not problem solving, not helping anybody, just knocking people's hard work when the real issues are found on his end obviously.
Yep. I just tried ViperROM Test4...boom! 100% wakelock while charging. Buggy.
epikphone said:
Yep. I just tried ViperROM Test4...boom! 100% wakelock while charging. Buggy.
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Well ViperROM is actually known for having some problems. Viper is trying to fix that, but any other ROM that is posted (well some but not all) don't have any bugs unless they're posted on the OP. Any other weird hiccups you may experience will most likely be kernel related, such as the random reboots or severe battery drain. I've tried most of the ROMs here, and I have yet to experience any weird quirks unless they are the ones posted on the OP. There are some ROMs that do have weird bugs, but it's not all of the ROMs.
DDiaz007 said:
Well ViperROM is actually known for having some problems. Viper is trying to fix that, but any other ROM that is posted (well some but not all) don't have any bugs unless they're posted on the OP. Any other weird hiccups you may experience will most likely be kernel related, such as the random reboots or severe battery drain. I've tried most of the ROMs here, and I have yet to experience any weird quirks unless they are the ones posted on the OP. There are some ROMs that do have weird bugs, but it's not all of the ROMs.
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What's your favorite ROM? Fast, long battery life.
epikphone said:
Yep. I just tried ViperROM Test4...boom! 100% wakelock while charging. Buggy.
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should you be whining about a "test" ROM having bugs? i think not, seeing as how it clearly says "Test" multiple times. what do you think test roms are for? to work out the bugs maybe. and phones are picky. all roms will not work perfectly for you. you "MUST" find the right rom/kernel combination that works best for the way you use your phone. less *****ing and more testing is all you need.
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Have you tried to install a ROM and not install any apps to make sure it's not app related. I've heard of lots of apps not playing well with certain roms. Just a thought.
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I'm with this guy.
Try a fresh install.
Only use stock apps for the first couple of days your trying.
The girlfriend used to have a stock unrooted Droid x that she would complain about screwing up but it was usually her using alternative music apps and such .
Also if you use titanium backup never batch restore your apps and data. Manually update each app that you want so your not restoring any nasty app data that might be screwing up your roms
Hope this helps
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Yes, I've noticed it too but you just need to use a dose of caution and ask around. I tried about a half dozen ROM's and I've found that the ones that are more "tricked out" have the most problems. Makes sense, because they are fooling with more stuff in the ROM.
That said, there are some really fast and good ones out there. Deck's ROM never gave me any trouble but it was a little TOO stock for me. I've since switched to CleanROM 2.7 and that's incredibly solid and almost as fast as the tricked out OC'd ones. So try one of those preceded with a full wipe and you should be happy.
Mike
epikphone said:
What's your favorite ROM? Fast, long battery life.
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Check out CleanROM 2.7 or CleanROM DE 1.2. Both have great battery life. I get easily over 24 hours with light to moderate use and 12+ on moderate to heavy use.
t3project said:
should you be whining about a "test" ROM having bugs? i think not, seeing as how it clearly says "Test" multiple times. what do you think test roms are for? to work out the bugs maybe. and phones are picky. all roms will not work perfectly for you. you "MUST" find the right rom/kernel combination that works best for the way you use your phone. less *****ing and more testing is all you need.
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Seeing how this is a thread about "Buggy ROMs", I feel justified in my post. Did I ***** and moan and complain about the issue? No. Did I complain about lack of support? No. Did I complain about anything else? No.
I stated the problem...."100% wakelock while charging" and that's it.
Go preach elsewhere.
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LfnsR said:
Check out CleanROM 2.7 or CleanROM DE 1.2. Both have great battery life. I get easily over 24 hours with light to moderate use and 12+ on moderate to heavy use.
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Thanks. Your post deserves a thumbs up.
bmtdan said:
Try a fresh install.
Only use stock apps for the first couple of days your trying.
The girlfriend used to have a stock unrooted Droid x that she would complain about screwing up but it was usually her using alternative music apps and such .
Also if you use titanium backup never batch restore your apps and data. Manually update each app that you want so your not restoring any nasty app data that might be screwing up your roms
Hope this helps
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I was originally coming onto the forum to post about how every rom/kernel combo eventually starts freezing on me after a few days of use (causing me to miss alarms/calls/etc), when I ran into this post.
I do use Titanium backup pro to batch restore and have been doing so on the Hero/Epic/Shift/3vo. This is the first device that I have had any problems with, but it does seem to coincide with titanium backup since the stock rom was butter.
What's the method of manually updating each app? Is it simply downloading from the market and restoring data to that app? And how is that any different with the likelihood of restoring "nasty app data"?
OP, do you use titanium backup to batch restore apps too?
Everyone else, is there a log file that I can look at to discover the process that triggers the freeze?
No problems on the roms I've used at all. Most of these posts do end up being user error, or just a bad phone. As someone else suggested, try Cleanrom. It is bullet proof. Nothing fancy, but it works forever.
If there were more problems, there would be a ton more threads like this. Yet we only see a post like this every week or so...

Anyone running SPB Mobile Shell 3D on their MoPho?

I was just wondering if anyone is running SPB Shell 3D on their phone and how they like it. Does it make the phone laggy? Is it a battery hog? I was thinking of getting it for my wife. She loves the phone but the UI is a little dull in her opinion and I wanted to kinda spice it up for her a bit. She was very discouraged when I told her the MoPho has almost zero dev support and she is now wondering if she made a mistake buying one. I am trying to explain to her that it's still an amazing phone but giving her a little "visual enhancement" with the 3D shell would go a long way I think.
Thanks in advance!
Ive had it for a few days and I love it. imo I noticed an improvement with the UI over the stock one.
my sister runs it on her photon. shes a pretty big user when it comes to Facebook and texting... blah blah blah. shes runs a stock photon rooted and has no issues. when i have used her phone just a few times, its memory is always around 320ish free where im not running 3dshell and have around 400ish. so it uses up a little more RAM, but i havent seen any big battery issues. she makes it through a whole work day with heavy use.
I would get it for myself, but its 15 bucks!!! im more interested in giving that money to developers within my phone to have other stuff.
but for your wife, i think she will greatly enjoy it. MY sister loves it and she runs it on her Samsung tab also that her 2 year old uses.
When you think about it... its probably a really good thing she has the same on both, allows the kids to be familiar with how moms phone works in case there is an emergency and they have to use their mammas phone. they will know how to navigate since its the same.
I like it alot. Don't notice any difference in battery life. I have had it restart a couple times. I think its the best. I have used it on every rom I've installed, homebase, alien, magnifier, jokers stock and skinny, even put it on cm7. Don't regret the $15 purchase at all.
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Just buy it and try it out. If she doesn't like it, get a refund.
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Just buy it and try it out. If she doesn't like it, get a refund.
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Google market doesn't give you enough time to properly try most apps, especially a launcher.
Buy it. I bought the SPB Shell when I had the HTC Evo. The launcher is really slick. The animations are awesome, and the SPB Widgets are pretty cool as well. Very little customization - meaning changing themes or colors (like a Go Launcher, or Launcher Pro), however it is one of the most responsive launchers that I have used. Definitely worth the $15. Your wife wil not complain!
Thanks guys
I bought it, but I don't use it... It just sits in my apps taunting me... Seriously though, if you use the webtop on the phone then you will end up hating it, it uses WAY to much memory. I am a very heavy webtop user and had to give it up, I couldn't have more than 2 tabs open in the browser without getting a low memory issue.
That said if you don't sport the webtop then you will not have any issues. The GUI is fast and when I did use it I noticed no impact on the battery. If it wasn't for webtop I would be all over it... But I do so love my webtop.
I have been using it for moths and love the smooth functional interface. Seems way more responsive than stock
I've been using it for quite a while. Runs smooth on the Photon and battery life is good. Just use home switcher from the Market and switch over to the stock UI before activating Webtop. Then just switch back when done.
Honestly, if all she wants is a UI change put LP or ADW on there with some themes and see what she says. Then use apps such as Beautiful Widgets, Folder Organizer, etc to customize the screens even more. All for little to no money spent.
BTW....SPB will give a refund past the 15min trial the Market gives if you send them an email request. Also, SPB can be had for $9.99 off Handster if you do the phone purchase and don't mind dl the updates manually.
I just don't see that there is 14 or even 10 dollars worth of software there.
I understand that this is why big names took and are still taking for ever with mobile developments (users won't pay a ton of cash for software any more), but really your paying for a bunch of ActionScript animations and that's about it, yeah its nifty and kind of cool to look at - but ADW EX has tons of animations as well, not to the level SPB does, but for 90% less than what SPB charges.
I purchased it last night and she seems to enjoy it but she said this morning she is having an issue with Handcent where she keeps getting the same 2 messages from her sister over and over again for the past hour. I wonder if the 2 progs don't play nice together. That would really suck since she probably wouldn't give up Handcent.
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I purchased it last night and she seems to enjoy it but she said this morning she is having an issue with Handcent where she keeps getting the same 2 messages from her sister over and over again for the past hour. I wonder if the 2 progs don't play nice together. That would really suck since she probably wouldn't give up Handcent.
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Handcent is widely used enough that I would assume it would work with everything.
I would try clearing App Data of Handcent.
So I sent an email to SPB Tech Support regarding the SMS problem and they basically said that it can't be their product doing it. That's bull**** since it didn't do it until I installed the shell on her phone. Their solution was to download home launcher from the market and use it to switch back to Moto-Blur. Wow, thanks for nothing.
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I purchased it last night and she seems to enjoy it but she said this morning she is having an issue with Handcent where she keeps getting the same 2 messages from her sister over and over again for the past hour. I wonder if the 2 progs don't play nice together. That would really suck since she probably wouldn't give up Handcent.
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This might not be an issue with Handcent. I have been having issues with text messages for about a week. They are all coming in 3-4 days late, and some of them keep getting pushed back to me no matter how many times I delete them. And, I am using the stock messaging app.
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So I sent an email to SPB Tech Support regarding the SMS problem and they basically said that it can't be their product doing it. That's bull**** since it didn't do it until I installed the shell on her phone. Their solution was to download home launcher from the market and use it to switch back to Moto-Blur. Wow, thanks for nothing.
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They might be right. Could just be a coincidence. I haven't figured out why the text issues are happening yet. My guess is it is Sprint because my configuration hasn't changed and SPB hasn't updated since Oct. 12th.
But how can it be sprint if it wasn't doing it 2 days ago before I installed SPB? Also, I am not having any issues on my 3VO with SMS either. It's definitely a phone issue.
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But how can it be sprint if it wasn't doing it 2 days ago before I installed SPB? Also, I am not having any issues on my 3VO with SMS either. It's definitely a phone issue.
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Its a common problem when using multiple msgr apps. Turn off notifications on one of them, or just uninstall handcent
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Bandage said:
Its a common problem when using multiple msgr apps. Turn off notifications on one of them, or just uninstall handcent
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I have already uninstalled handset and am just using the stock messaging app. Still does it.
_-Jay-_ said:
I have already uninstalled handset and am just using the stock messaging app. Still does it.
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I just don't see how it can be SPB since I have had it installed for a long time with the same setup. The last update to SPB was on Oct. 12th and I never experienced a problem until a week or so ago.
When time allows I will do some testing and see if I can figure out what is going on. There is a good chance another product might be causing the issue but will no more soon.
**Edit.....Forgot I did a battery pull last night and haven't had the issue occur yet. Will check it over the next few days and see what happens.

ROMs: SkinnyRev1 vs. CM7

For those of you who have used both of these outstanding ROMs on your MoPho, which one do you prefer and why?
Both are great ROMs. I am currently on cm7. I am really liking cm7. Its fast and battery life is outstanding. Downside to cm7 is you do need to edit build.prop to get youtube working. Also have to edit apn to get mms working. Fixes are easy to do though.
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i agree with above. both are great and will wake up your photon like no other. when it was all said and done, i picked CM7 bc thats what i ran on my EVO and was just more comfortable with it. personal preference really. neither will let you down.
I'd personally go with skinnyrev1. But I've been running CM7 for a long time on my evo shift and got bored with it. But if you have never ran CM7 before on any of your devices then its worth a try. But for the photon I'd go with skinnyrev1.
MedicStuder said:
Both are great ROMs. I am currently on cm7. I am really liking cm7. Its fast and battery life is outstanding. Downside to cm7 is you do need to edit build.prop to get youtube working. Also have to edit apn to get mms working. Fixes are easy to do though.
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Does CM7 include the 1% battery mod and is the battery life better than stock?
CM7 actually works ok now? Its by FAR my favorite (the only thing I miss from my EVO really).
gregfink said:
CM7 actually works ok now? Its by FAR my favorite (the only thing I miss from my EVO really).
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yes, CM7 works very well. others along with myself feel the build is better then many of the EVO ones. I have no complaints.
can you please help, im running cm7 how do i do that?
I'm also running cm7, its a great, looks nice, and well its cm7 whats more to say
What advantages does CM7 have over Skinny?
Im using skinny with undelvolt and im fascinated... i wanna give a try to cm7 but when i flashed keep looping in boot animation...
lroy said:
yes, CM7 works very well. others along with myself feel the build is better then many of the EVO ones. I have no complaints.
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Really? I haven't really seen anything other than the Alpha builds. Everything works? The Evo worked great (minus 4g, but I don't live in a 4g area anyway). I can only imagine how fast it is. My Photon runs only a little faster than my CM7 evo.
Which build are you guys running?
I am loving life on my CM7 ROM. Not a big fan of Motoblur, so wanted to try something new. To be honest though...this is my only ONLY ROM that I have tried so can't offer anything new to the conversation other than I have had few problems from it. On reboot, I get a single phone.apt error that once dismissed, doesn't bother me again. The MMS issue is NOT an issue on mine...I send and receive picturemail daily and have not had any issues with that. I wish the built in buttons for the zoom on the camera app worked, but they don't...yet. Have to use the apps slider to control zoom. The Wifi is qwerky at times. I sometimes have to FORGET a known network, turn off Wifi, turn it back on...then reenter login info's to get a reconnection on a previously working wifi accesspoint that I use...but...just a minor annoyance. Considering it is still technically in alpha...it is very usable and stable...I say go for it!
maguitodelrock said:
Im using skinny with undelvolt and im fascinated... i wanna give a try to cm7 but when i flashed keep looping in boot animation...
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How does one undervolt and what advantages does it provide?
Gack69 said:
I am loving life on my CM7 ROM. Not a big fan of Motoblur, so wanted to try something new. To be honest though...this is my only ONLY ROM that I have tried so can't offer anything new to the conversation other than I have had few problems from it. On reboot, I get a single phone.apt error that once dismissed, doesn't bother me again. The MMS issue is NOT an issue on mine...I send and receive picturemail daily and have not had any issues with that. I wish the built in buttons for the zoom on the camera app worked, but they don't...yet. Have to use the apps slider to control zoom. The Wifi is qwerky at times. I sometimes have to FORGET a known network, turn off Wifi, turn it back on...then reenter login info's to get a reconnection on a previously working wifi accesspoint that I use...but...just a minor annoyance. Considering it is still technically in alpha...it is very usable and stable...I say go for it!
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I havent had any issues with wifi, got work, home, parents home, and two friends houses in college station. 5 networks total. is it the same router that you are experiencing this trouble or is it the same across all routers?
but to anyone that is in question between the two, dont base ur selection off others, its gonna boil down to your preference. its gonna be 50/50 based on reviews. best thing you can do is flash one and play around with it, then make a backup, flash the second one and see if you like it better or not. Still make a backup of the second in case you want to move back again. Thats the great thing about Android, its your choice
since you have it narrowed down between just these two, youre in a good situation. alot better then flashin all day to see what you like the best.
sjamie said:
Does CM7 include the 1% battery mod and is the battery life better than stock?
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I've been pretty happy with SkinnyRev1 as a daily driver. I'm currently on CM7 testing the new 1.3OC. My phone hates the 1.4 kernels for some reason and on CM7, even with the modfied APN mms is very sketchy. I can send just fine but when I receive a message, that message gets repeated over and over again every couple of hours (sometimes minutes) until I get sick of it and restore my Skinny nandroid.
I've had it happen with several versions of this alpha and cannot seem to get it to stop once it happens. Deleting the thread does nothing, I just get a notification a little later that I have a new message. I've even gone from several of the yay leaked sbfs straight to CM7, skipping skinny altogether and still have the same mms issue
Well I haven't tried skinny rom but cm7 is awesome very stable been my daily driver for about 2 weeks and love it. Very smooth and fast. I had cm7 on evo 4g and needed it on this. it's very customizable (real word?) U can change lockscreen add gestures change overall color and much much more I feel like a spokesman for cm LOL but seriously give it a try u wont b disappointed
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If it helps my eventual goal after i finish some other projects would be cm7 with webtop. I might start work on it tonight actually. Ive been with cm since it started on the g1. Once kinks are worked out its definitely preferred. I made skinny because we didnt have any alternatives and my friend likes blur, lol.
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If it helps my eventual goal after i finish some other projects would be cm7 with webtop. I might start work on it tonight actually. Ive been with cm since it started on the g1. Once kinks are worked out its definitely preferred. I made skinny because we didnt have any alternatives and my friend likes blur, lol.
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Well, if YOU are saying CM7 is the way to go (once the kinks are worked out) then that settles it for me. Thanks!

After 25 hours use of new ICS leak - my experience

Simply good. I didn't expect to be this stable. Everything works. I made a Day in the life without an issue. I even took 3d pix and video. Battery life is similar or slightly better than Gingerbread. Just wanted to share my experience for those who hasn't tried. I did not flashed the new firmware (CDMA). Just same ole method of Wipe / Flash. Cheers
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Simply good. I didn't expect to be this stable. Everything works. I made a Day in the life without an issue. I even took 3d pix and video. Battery life is similar or slightly better than Gingerbread. Just wanted to share my experience for those who hasn't tried. I did not flashed the new firmware (CDMA). Just same ole method of Wipe / Flash. Cheers
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Thanks for the info. If you do start having problems please post back here. I did the hboot downgrade but revolutionary won't five me s-off so I'm forced back to hboot 1.5 and stuck with s-on and can't flash the firmware.
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My battery life seems tons better than it was before. But who knows, maybe I had some crappy rom that said it was using a single core but it was really wasting battery by enabling the second one at all times.
All I know is I was reading on my phone for about an hour this morning and it was still at 92%.
Other than that, I'm pretty surprised with how well it's running. Sense 3.6 is ok, a little jarring to see some of the sense colors go out of the way for real ICS stuff (like when you're attaching a google account).
One thing I don't like is how they ruined the default app behavior. Before if you clicked a link from a twitter app, it asked what application to use. That's ok, you can change that particular thing from the default apps settings (and ICS Browser + destroys the default Sense browser), but if I'm in an email and I click a twitter name, it just goes straight to the browser. Previously it popped up a menu for a browser or twitter apps, and I'd rather have it go right to the app.
I'm a little disappointed that the Car Panel isn't there (Well, it is kinda. When I plug it into my car dock, the icon shows up in the bar, but there's no Car Panel App or anything). Other than that, the desktop dock mode is nice with the added music player feature. Everything runs smooth, and I definitely like the swipe feature in the drop down menu and task killer.
Adding the performance tweak has made this thing fly..sacrifice just a little battery but its worth it.
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Saneless One said:
One thing I don't like is how they ruined the default app behavior. Before if you clicked a link from a twitter app, it asked what application to use. That's ok, you can change that particular thing from the default apps settings (and ICS Browser + destroys the default Sense browser), but if I'm in an email and I click a twitter name, it just goes straight to the browser. Previously it popped up a menu for a browser or twitter apps, and I'd rather have it go right to the app.
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Menu>settings>app associations
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Does anyone know if there is a copy of the voicemail program that works on ICS?
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Menu>settings>app associations
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Like I said, that works fine for which browser to open thankfully, because the stock browser is as bad as it's ever been, but there's nothing in there for anything else I want to deal with, like twitter links from gmail. They don't let you add anything
Peep is missing, it kinda kills Friend Stream's usefulness & Twitter contact syncing.
Great release though.
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I dunno why, but the app isn't letting me quote.
Here is a link to a working sprint VM app. Its been posted a few times in different ics threads.
From my dropbox http://db.tt/tGNkDwVa
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Can someone confirm that MHL and OTG works on ICS?
I ****ing love this ICS leak! Like the OP said, everything works! From 3d to in car Bluetooth to HDMI out, its all flawless. I love the tweaks HTC made to sense, I don't even mind that its not sense 4.0. I'm using apex launcher to replicate that stock ics look and best of all, I can use chrome!
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Very nice ics starting rom
Hi,
I tried this ROM this afternoon,
My phone: HTC EVO 3D x515m
Camera: 5M*2
hboot: HTC *** UNLOCKED METHOD ***
SHOOTER_U PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.49.0018
Oct 3 2011 15:03:01
First, I extracted the boot.img from the archive and I flashed with the option of EXT Recovery.
I rebooted in recovery (4EXT v1.0.0.5 RC3 Build 102)
I Wiped data, system, CACHE, Dalvik-Cache
Then I flashed the ROM and then reboots Virtuous_Shooter_v.3.0.0.zip
I tested:
Bluetooth OK (associated with a headset MOTOROLA)
Phone OK (not stop during a call)
Wifi OK
2D and 3D camera OK
Spiderman 3D OK!
I realized that the ROM was not rooted. So I flashed in Recovery mode, Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip. ROOT is ok now.
When configuring the phone, I took the backup on Google. All my applications were then restored.
I restored the data from each application with Titanium Backup.
I think we would finally an ICS ROM from which The developer will be able to build their new ROM.
It's really good. thank you to Virtuous Dev Team: Diamondback, Flemmard, seo, rmk, chrisch1974, eViL_Dee, mdj, cypis, cjward, tbalden
Thank to Mdeejay!!!
Sincerely,
oh yea, best part about the perfect leak, no sprint bloat!
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Noiro said:
Peep is missing, it kinda kills Friend Stream's usefulness & Twitter contact syncing.
Great release though.
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I saw somewhere that Peep isn't going to be available anymore with the ICS update and the official Twitter app would replace it. Don't remember where though.
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My battery life has been worse than when I was on mean or zr3d. I am down half battery and it is only noon.
I don't like the new gmail app. The old one was dark this one is white and for me hard to see what is new and what is old.
In time it will be better. I dis not flash the firmware. Just the ROM.
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I've tried clean Rom and icsensedeck and my camera doesn't work... Locks up and power cycles.
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HuDuVuDu said:
My battery life has been worse than when I was on mean or zr3d. I am down half battery and it is only noon.
I don't like the new gmail app. The old one was dark this one is white and for me hard to see what is new and what is old.
In time it will be better. I dis not flash the firmware. Just the ROM.
Sent from my EVO-3D via Tapatalk.
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The Gmail app isn't new in the update(just the icon), and it's always been white since the beginning of time... A lot of ROM developers and themers have made different color variants, though, with the most popular being the 'Inverted Gmail' which is probably what you got used to using.
My experience with the ICS leak was good and bad. I like all the changes to UI, but some of the stuff was buggy at times. First, it took a few reboots/battery pulls after flashing to even boot into the ROM for the first time. I have Sprint VM saved on SD, and after installing it, it didn't work. Cache cleaner app was non-responsive. I'd go to clean the cache and it would sit there for several minutes 'cleaning' until I just gave up. I restarted the phone once and when I went back to open my text messages, all I saw were phone numbers(instead of contact names) for a few minutes until I turned on Wifi and everything sync'd again.... just a few things I can remember right off-hand. I'll probably just wait until we at least have a 'Sprint Leak' to go back again. I'm sure the OTA isn't too far away anyway..
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The Gmail app isn't new in the update(just the icon), and it's always been white since the beginning of time... A lot of ROM developers and themers have made different color variants, though, with the most popular being the 'Inverted Gmail' which is probably what you got used to using.
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Actually gmail does update for ICS and only for ICS. It is completely different from the gingerbread version it takes some time to get use too but the end result is I kind of like it.
I love the release but I just wish the app drawer was side to side instead of top and down.

MMS and Group Texting Problems

Does anyone else's DNA not notify them when receiving an MMS or group message?
My lone gripe with this phone is the messaging experience.
Sent from the King's DNA
I got a mms yesterday and it notified me. No issues.
sent from HTC Droid DNA on Verizon.
Kleany said:
I got a mms yesterday and it notified me. No issues.
sent from HTC Droid DNA on Verizon.
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Do you have any third party sms applications installed?
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Nope none at all.
sent from HTC Droid DNA on Verizon.
Cannot send text messages Viper Rom
I read alot. I don't post alot. Wish I did because I have a legit issue and I cannot for the life of me get it figured out. I cannot send text messages on my DNA using the Viper DNA rom (Version 1.1.3).
Here are the specs if it helps.
Rooted and S-OFF
Radio is: 1.01.01.0110
Kernel is 3.4.10-dsb9938.Cubed.DNA.Stock.System.Write
Rom is ViperDNA 1.1.3
Jaybone073 said:
I read alot. I don't post alot. Wish I did because I have a legit issue and I cannot for the life of me get it figured out. I cannot send text messages on my DNA using the Viper DNA rom (Version 1.1.3).
Here are the specs if it helps.
Rooted and S-OFF
Radio is: 1.01.01.0110
Kernel is 3.4.10-dsb9938.Cubed.DNA.Stock.System.Write
Rom is ViperDNA 1.1.3
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What carrier are you on.
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I have the same problem sometimes. I will get a text message but I wont get a notification. If i open my messages it will be there.
I am on Cubed + viper 1.1.3 S-OFF, ENG bootloader.
The problem comes and goes. I did a bunch of system cleaning (cleaning up unused apps/data, cleared cache/dalvik, fix permissions, etc) and the problem seems to be gone for now. But i can definitly tell you I was having the same problem. I suggest doing some of the above and seeing if it changes anything
I am from Australia and I have issues sometimes too running on GSM!. Things like failed texting and even calls failing because my phone thinks I'm dialling overseas. I resolved all of mine by changing all of my numbers to their country code extended file name. for example numbers in Australia look like this "0403045209" but I have now added my country code which is "+61" while using this code the first digit of the number needs to be dropped. In the end the number looks like this +61403045209. Everything now works perfectly fine.
If you are thinking to yourself oh crap now I need to go through and edit them all. The easiest solution is to go to your computer and log in to your gmail, up the top left you will see the "google" logo. Just underneath that you will see "gmail" click on this and change it to "contacts" - This might sound stupid me explaining it but it took me ages to figure this out lol.
I don't know if changing your numbers to their extended country code form will help, but it's worth a shot. For me, if I didn't do this, my phone thought I was dialling overseas. I think it is due to being Verizon, I dunno.
EDIT* I only needed to change "mobile numbers"
Unphazed MD said:
I have the same problem sometimes. I will get a text message but I wont get a notification. If i open my messages it will be there.
I am on Cubed + viper 1.1.3 S-OFF, ENG bootloader.
The problem comes and goes. I did a bunch of system cleaning (cleaning up unused apps/data, cleared cache/dalvik, fix permissions, etc) and the problem seems to be gone for now. But i can definitly tell you I was having the same problem. I suggest doing some of the above and seeing if it changes anything
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Carrier is Verizon. I thought at first I was cleaning to much. I run a very lean setup. Very lean. If its on the debloat list chances are that I have removed it. The problem seems to have disappeared for the time being. I did a standard reboot and called someone and asked them to text me and it worked. Perhaps the problem may have been the radio because I had just flashed it when the problem started.
All is well for now.
As far as fixing permissions... I have a question there. The recovery I use is CWM Touch and it has a fix permissions option, however, the Viper DNA rom also has a fix permissions in its tweak options. Which one should I use? Should I use both?
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Carrier is Verizon. I thought at first I was cleaning to much. I run a very lean setup. Very lean. If its on the debloat list chances are that I have removed it. The problem seems to have disappeared for the time being. I did a standard reboot and called someone and asked them to text me and it worked. Perhaps the problem may have been the radio because I had just flashed it when the problem started.
All is well for now.
As far as fixing permissions... I have a question there. The recovery I use is CWM Touch and it has a fix permissions option, however, the Viper DNA rom also has a fix permissions in its tweak options. Which one should I use? Should I use both?
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They both do exactly the same thing. The difference is, with Viper you will actually see the progress as each app is done. Give it a shot!
Figured as much
uppon2 said:
They both do exactly the same thing. The difference is, with Viper you will actually see the progress as each app is done. Give it a shot!
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I pretty much assumed they did the same but I did the Viper one. I like the status and it keeps me from booting to recovery to do the work. Finally something I can do to be a little lazy. Ha. This coming from a man who 2 days ago had never used adb in his life. Now, thanks to the xda forums and research, I have achieved alot with this DNA. Official ota blocking, root, boot imaging, kernels, roms, s-off, superCID, bootloader unlocking... and I'm sure the list will grow and grow.
As stated before, I read a great deal more than I post. I know search is my friend too. Lol. If the issue arises again with the sms or mms problem I will be sure to post on it. Need to get the count up anyway in hopes that should I need more help I will be able to post where it's needed. But it's hard to post a question when so much is easily laid out for you and the development team is rocking out gold.
Jaybone073 said:
I pretty much assumed they did the same but I did the Viper one. I like the status and it keeps me from booting to recovery to do the work. Finally something I can do to be a little lazy. Ha. This coming from a man who 2 days ago had never used adb in his life. Now, thanks to the xda forums and research, I have achieved alot with this DNA. Official ota blocking, root, boot imaging, kernels, roms, s-off, superCID, bootloader unlocking... and I'm sure the list will grow and grow.
As stated before, I read a great deal more than I post. I know search is my friend too. Lol. If the issue arises again with the sms or mms problem I will be sure to post on it. Need to get the count up anyway in hopes that should I need more help I will be able to post where it's needed. But it's hard to post a question when so much is easily laid out for you and the development team is rocking out gold.
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There won't be a great deal more to learn to be honest. You have already reached the hardest of it, unless you plan to get in to developing
uppon2 said:
There won't be a great deal more to learn to be honest. You have already reached the hardest of it, unless you plan to get in to developing
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You never know. It's a possibility. Being a smartphone owner is much like being a true biker. Sure, you love your bike but you always want something more. Never happy with status quo. There is always something to research, something you want to add or do. Now you could get a mechanic to do it but the feeling isn't as good unless you do it yourself. And I have modded my motorcycle withing my capabilities, so naturally my next project may be my phone. I think I will practice with my spare thunderbolts first though. Lol.
I will get a notification, but when I click on the notification in the drop down, it will send me to the individual messages of the sender, instead of the group text, so I have to exit out and then enter the group thread.
Minor annoyance.
i have the same issue.
Running digital dream v1.5 on my droid dna verizon.
Bell Canada is my carrier.
beddachedda said:
I will get a notification, but when I click on the notification in the drop down, it will send me to the individual messages of the sender, instead of the group text, so I have to exit out and then enter the group thread.
Minor annoyance.
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If you click on the notification between when you receive the message and when the MMS portion of it is downloaded(which is where the fact that it is a group message is held) then this will happen. It is to be expected.
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