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Is there a way to change the right side dock button? I'd much rather it go to text messages than the "Personalize" screen....anyone know how to change it?
Blah! HTC Sense... I am disgusted with it as well.
Best bet would probably be getting a third-party launcher (Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher).
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Blah! HTC Sense... I am disgusted with it as well.
Best bet would probably be getting a third-party launcher (Launcher Pro / ADW Launcher).
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I'm a Launcher Pro junkie. Love it. Sense on the other hand is definitely a love/hate thing for me. Some of its features are really slick, but many of them just get in the way. I too would like to change that personalize button. Need to look into it more closely.
It won't matter...once a CM7 gingerbread build comes out for this thing, I'm there and goodbye Sense.
Agreed. Once CM7 is ported and I have my TB rooted... there is no turning back to this bloated, stock, Sense 2.2 garbage.
I've always loved LauncherPro. I have the Plus version. But this is my first HTC phone, so I'm using it stock for a bit first just to get a taste of what Sense is all about for a while.
I don't mind it too much. Runs smooth, but has so much bloatware attached to it.
If I could customize the dock buttons around and hide icons in the app tray, I think I'd be fine with Sense.
I have seen this done in some roms but I am pretty sure you have no shot without root. I think I had it in Mikfroyo but it was called modified Rosie or Rosie Options. Something like that.
Btw...mikfroyo is an EVO from under the Evo Dev section
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New sense is nice actually. I like it so far...better than sense 2.0..
Many of us like to use home replacement apps to have more customization. But many of us whom are htc fanboys don't wanna let go of our sense widgets. They do make sense after all. So with the advent of these popup dock apps being on the market like dock4droid i thought hmmm maybe there can be a Rosie dock app that can be created as an overlay to the stock htc Rosie dock! Something that is themeable and looks just like the sense Rosie dock except that it has more app shortcuts embedded on it. Say like 3-5 app shortcuts that can revolve like the android rotary lockscreen that scrolls through different user defined shortcuts like launcher pro/ go launcher. That way we can keep our amazing goodness that sense 2.1 has to offer but having the convenience of using more shortcuts on the dock that home replacements offer. Has anyone else thought of this? And should this have been in the android general forum for more visibility? I'm not a developer btw. Just an enthusiast. Whaddayall think?
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Sounds like a nice idea for those sense-lovers. As for me, I don't much care for sense or the widgets, but would be willing to give this a try.
I originally thought sense was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen back in 1.5. After the step up to 2.0 I perfered the look of AOSP with other adjustments. I absolutely hate the dialer, contacts, and several other aspects of sense though. I would do anything to get it removed from my phone completely. I will rejoice to the heavens once CM7 is ported over to this wonderful piece of hardware.
Its funny to me that the way you feel about sense now is the exact same way I feel about aosp. I like the way aosp performs over sense. Feels much lighter and easier on the cpu. But I like the look and the added functionality that htc brings to android on their devices. Perhaps if there would be a wonderfully themed metamorph and some htc themed dialer and contact apps available on the market I'd totally be on aosp. Since there are all these developers out here banking off of htc themed apps ie flip clocks, widgets and home replacements, I don't see why the htc corporation just not turn their famous ui into a highly advanced home replacement app! And/or convert their famous widgets into android widgets for sale on the market. I'd be willing to pay spb 3d shell money for all of that. They can definitely bank off of selling their ui to those that don't buy their devices and to Those who buy their devices, root and flash aosp on their devices. It can be a win/ win situation for them. And btw, they would kill any home replacement app on the market right now if they were to release a home replacement app based on sense3.0!
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The most themeable launcher with a doc that I've seen is Go Launcher
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex
Go launcher isn't very sense like though if that matters. It's more like vanilla android or sort of like touchwiz on samsung phones.
With LauncherPro Plus and the theme support of widgets you can pretty much have a sense like ui.
Yea but I'm not talking about an idea for a home replacement appz I'm talking about just a dock replacement app, or dock overlay. Something that is put on top of the default dock to be used with the current rom and can be used alongside the proprietary widgets. Launcher pro is the best home replacement app to mimic sense but sense 2.1 and the upcoming 3.0 has surpassed launcher pro. The developer can updated it to have much of those features but who knows if he will and when he will. A simple dock overlay with a few enhancements can save app storage space and be easier on the cpu. I've noticed when I have more than 3 home replacement apps installed, sense starts to get a bit laggy. It would be nice to be able to still experience sense entirely but with a few added enhancements.
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Yea but I'm not talking about an idea for a home replacement appz I'm talking about just a dock replacement app, or dock overlay. Something that is put on top of the default dock to be used with the current rom and can be used alongside the proprietary widgets. Launcher pro is the best home replacement app to mimic sense but sense 2.1 and the upcoming 3.0 has surpassed launcher pro. The developer can updated it to have much of those features but who knows if he will and when he will. A simple dock overlay with a few enhancements can save app storage space and be easier on the cpu. I've noticed when I have more than 3 home replacement apps installed, sense starts to get a bit laggy. It would be nice to be able to still experience sense entirely but with a few added enhancements.
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Problem with launchers those widgets are bundled with them on android is they're generally not sharable. App independent ones like pandora don't have that problem, but the launcher ones seem to be be tied into the launchers and wont play nicely. People have ported out or cloned ones from launchers, but I am guessing the actual ones are just too tied to the launcher code to be standalone.
True but the idea I'm talking about is not a home replacement launcher. I'm talking about a dock overlay. Something that can be used with the default launcher, widgets etc. Look up dock4droid on the market. The idea stemmed from that. Specifically what I'd like to see is a replacement Rosie dock that covers the default dock with extra app shortcuts that are scrollable like launcher pros dock.
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I personally like launcher pro but since development has slowed to just about a stop i am using adw. How is go launcher and windows 7 launcher?
Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets is my fave combination.
I still prefer this to Sense.
I use Go and Beautiful WIdgets. GO seems to be developing pretty strongly, and it does just about anything I want it to. And it works well in conjunction with the other GO apps like dialer and sms.
ADW here... I've used it on my Dinc and now on my TB... Rock solid.
I've been using ADW lately and I'm very pleased with it.
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ADW EX here. I've been glad I switched since the day it came out. Just seems smoother overall than stock ADW. I was an LP user for a while but seemed like it started getting bloated with things I'd never use. It may have gotten better recently as I haven't tried it since EX came out but for me, after using LP, ADW, and ADW EX, my personal choice has been EX and I haven't found a reason to move on.
I prefer LP. It keeps things simple and I can back it up which is convenient when flashing.
lol...I remember when adw and LP first came on the scene - a lot of people loved them for their simplicity - then the feature wars began...
ADW EX for me.
GOLauncher ftw. Hands down the best launcher from not only a visually impressive setup but a functionalvone as well. Im taking gulps of the go dev teams koolaid. I use launcher gowns contacts and dialer. Need more themes but other than that best imo.
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What functions or features are you guys using to justify using a launcher?
I hate that the HTC mail and HTC messaging icons don't show the counts, at least I couldn't figure out how to do it on launcher pro.
i'm using launcher pro now but I'm probably going back to the windows 7 launcher. It's simplicity is refreshing, the only downside is I don't get to see my p retty wallpapers as much, but I find it more useful
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GOLauncher ftw. Hands down the best launcher from not only a visually impressive setup but a functionalvone as well. Im taking gulps of the go dev teams koolaid. I use launcher gowns contacts and dialer. Need more themes but other than that best imo.
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They just released some sort of themeing API so we should see a lot more a lot faster.
I hate they got rid of the dark icons in the default set, they had both white and black and a few weeks back an update removed all the black versions.
doibugu2 said:
What functions or features are you guys using to justify using a launcher?
I hate that the HTC mail and HTC messaging icons don't show the counts, at least I couldn't figure out how to do it on launcher pro.
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I think smoothness, options of dock/screens and app drawer customization are the most important for me. So is displaying counts and hiding the notifications bar.
andydumi said:
They just released some sort of themeing API so we should see a lot more a lot faster.
I hate they got rid of the dark icons in the default set, they had both white and black and a few weeks back an update removed all the black versions.
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No ****? I know the had one before that I tried playing with but it was terrible. lol. It just straight up didnt work. Imma check into that. Good lookin out dude.
Anyone running CM7 having issues with ADW Ex going to landscape and then back to portrait? I get a black screen and then FC about 30 seconds later. I'd be using ADW Ex full time if this wasn't an issue. As it is now I'm using LP :-/
BoulderGeek said:
Laucnher Pro and Beautiful Widgets is my fave combination.
I still prefer this to Sense.
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Same for me except I prefer Sense over it. If I'm on a vanilla ROM, you can bet I'd be using Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets.
I'm using GO Launcher EX (just discovered it this week), I think I'm in love, runs awesome on my CM7 1.2 TBolt, totally customizable, just switched to GO SMS as well from Handcent and am loving it too.
I had been using LPro forever and am glad I decided to try GO.
This doesn't even belong in this forum.
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This doesn't even belong in this forum.
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huh? A question posted doesn't belong in the q&a section?
Just trying out adw ex launcher now y'all got me going over to the market to check out this go launcher...
Probably stick with adw since I just bought 3 themes.
Go Launcher EX and FancyWidgets Pro.
i prefer Launcher Pro because of the menu system at the bottom of the screen. i hate putting shortcuts/widgets on the screen(like to keep it clutter free) so it's nice to that menu at the bottom.
i know that go launcher ex is similiar, but i don't like the 5 screen thing and i don't like those dots it puts in the upper center of the screen indicating which screen you're on.
adw i have never cared for because of it's menu system setup at the bottom.
as for Windows 7 launcher... if that intrigues you why do you have a Thunderbolt?
Ive been looking through peoples themes and what not and Im curious as how to change icons and screens, is it a skin or is it the rom or what? Just for example i like how some people have the circle battery instead of the battery icon and things like that, if someone could help me out id appreciate it alot. Thanks in advance
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Ive been looking through peoples themes and what not and Im curious as how to change icons and screens, is it a skin or is it the rom or what? Just for example i like how some people have the circle battery instead of the battery icon and things like that, if someone could help me out id appreciate it alot. Thanks in advance
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Things like the circle battery and anything on the taskbar are either going to be part of a rom or a theme. You can do them individually yourself but you would have to do some research on theming. You also need to be rooted with s-off. If you like a more stock look rather than sense launchers like launcher pro from the market offer a lot of themes and icon packs that can be installed with or without root.
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Things like the circle battery and anything on the taskbar are either going to be part of a rom or a theme. You can do them individually yourself but you would have to do some research on theming. You also need to be rooted with s-off. If you like a more stock look rather than sense launchers like launcher pro from the market offer a lot of themes and icon packs that can be installed with or without root.
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Im currently rooted S-Off running Bamf 3.0 Sence RC4.9 what exactly are launchers? Sorry just trying to figure out what everything is...
A launcher is what runs the whole user interface. Home screens, dockbars, icons, and shortcuts. HTC phones comes with sense. (except the g1, g2, and nexus 1) Sense is actually more than just the launcher its a while UI overlay. Sense's launcher is really called rosie but that's not really important here unless you are planing on learning to theme. If you look in the market there are launchers like Launcher Pro, ADW, and their variants plus many more. Just search launchers and try one out. When you press your home button it will let you choose sense or whichever other launcher you have installed. If you try one just read the instructions and play around with it. Plus search the market for themes built for the launcher you d/l. (for example...search ADW themes in the market) Everything on your sense screens will remain the same. If you want to stick with sense 3.0 that comes with BAMF 3.0 try some BAMF themes. I would check out rootzwiki or teambamf.net. I doubt you will find them here.
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I'm running th3ory now.... not sure what version I think its the newest one out
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We have seen tons and tons of modding of Sense 3.0 but honestly speaking these are more "Thematic Mods" than real Mods. Yes we have blue, red, pink and you name it and you get it colours available for lockscreen, rings, clocks, statusbar and you name it and you get it graphical items.
Most of you will agree these are skin changes and not real mods. Most android launchers these days have features we would love to see in our dearmost SENSE launcher, but as yet, we have not crossed that mod level. Back in the WM6.5 days, we had a super application called co0kies Home tab and most old folks would agree with me that this app rocked. Today that kind of sense modding is over UNLESS we flash a new ROM.
Is the sense Modding a DEAD END or is ROM development the only choice????
With this thread lets highlight and point to some of our incredible developers that we would love to have the following features and real mods in our dear sense package NATIVELY via tweak or apps.
Ability to hide status bar like in all other launchers merely by a gesture.
Ability to add delete number of homescreen pages WITHOUT ROM flashing.
Ability to lock / hide the Notificatios tab besdies the "Quick Settings" tab in the new Sense status bar.
Ability to change icons and their names as in all other launchers.
Ability to sort apps and hide apps from Ap drawer.
Ability to auto hide the Sense ARC at the bottom of the screen much like the Windows taskbar on pc.
Ability to change grid size in respect of coloumns and rows. Also very much achievable in almost all launchers.
The ability to change widget sizes as available in Go launcher and others.
3D rendering of weather on lockscreen. It would be nice to have EYE POPPING weather animations on lockscreen suing full 3d capabilities. I can do the 3D Rendering if any dev is interested in development
Please post simlar sense 3.0 mods you would like to have natively in sense 3.0 launcher and lets catch the interest of developers.
I think one highly desirable mod is workspace size, 5x5, 5x6..etc.. I've been working on it for a while with not much success..
I always seem to run into problems with recompiling Rosie. If I decompile a Rosie.apk with dependencies, then try to immediately recompile, the size is always significantly different (~1.8mb vs ~12mb). I've went ahead and made changes to some of the xml files within, but the size is always way off when it is recompiled...if it gets that far and doesn't throw an error...
It would be awesome if a more experienced dev could take this on or offer some guidance..
I think we all can agree 4x4 sucks on a qHD screen.
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updated the first post with it.
Also added the 3d weather animation lockscreen. I can do the rendering of 3d if any dev is interested.
LETS KEEP SENSE ALIVE
Sounds good have you anything ready for testing?
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I totally agre. Im getting tired of using sense and not being able to change certain aspects of it that should have been changable from the get go. Sense is gret but it needs to be greter" so im sure that some other devs here that have the awesome knowledge will soon begin to consider these things. I am willing to donate for this type of work when the project begins. This is a great convo starter and im glad someone has came to point this out.
The only thing I would like is to be able to resize widgets if is even possible.
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I totally agre. Im getting tired of using sense and not being able to change certain aspects of it that should have been changable from the get go. Sense is gret but it needs to be greter" so im sure that some other devs here that have the awesome knowledge will soon begin to consider these things. I am willing to donate for this type of work when the project begins. This is a great convo starter and im glad someone has came to point this out.
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Yess. We can see different ROMS exploring different things. But at the same time we see different launchers providing functionalities which are awesome.
SENSE 3.0 as a launcher is dying out. We have themes for sense and that is all. Launcher functionality is Sense is limited. We had an excellent program called co0kies hometab for WM 6.5 and it allowed all types of customizations. However, most people today feel easy to download an alternative launcher over sense 3.0.
Lets keep this launcher alive.
pamplinas said:
The only thing I would like is to be able to resize widgets if is even possible.
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Its possible in Go launcher. I have already added it to the top post.
pamplinas said:
The only thing I would like is to be able to resize widgets if is even possible.
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I think it is possible, it was done on older versions of Sense..The widgets size themselves according to the layout size. You can't resize them on demand tho.
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Its odd how sense 3.0 has an edit button when u long press on an icon or widget but u cant always use it and that grinds my gears because i feel it being mostly pointless of it being there. I hope it changes to have better functionality instead of a ui change like in the supposedly leaked sense 3.5. What a nightmare that is. Lol
I would like the rgb color widget that's in cyanagen mod so you can make your phone just one color like blue or green or red. Also if some can find me some pngs of the death star rotating I will make a star wars themed lock screen
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mayfield103 said:
I would like the rgb color widget that's in cyanagen mod so you can make your phone just one color like blue or green or red. Also if some can find me some pngs of the death star rotating I will make a star wars themed lock screen
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This app I found on the market can provide the color rendering screen effect. Here's a link to the free/demo version, the full is $0.99
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Just tested Go launcher. Apart from htc widgets, all wallpapers and live wallpapers from HTC including weather and htc hub is accessible from the GO launcher.
Plus HTC lock screen is also there with weather.
I wish OUR SENSE has these features.
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Back in the WM6.5 days, we had a super application called co0kies Home tab and most old folks would agree with me that this app rocked. Today that kind of sense modding is over UNLESS we flash a new ROM.
Is the sense Modding a DEAD END or is ROM development the only choice????
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"Old folks" ? LOL Dude... the cookie home tab mod was release almost a year ago in November (for the 2.0 ver). That's not THAT long ago.. LOL
Development for Rosie is not going too far because we don't have a cookiemonster equivalent in the Android world. All real modding is done in smali and I only know of ONE guy that can do serious modding to it.. RomanBB.
Unless we get someone like cookiemonster, Sense modding will never take off.
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"Old folks" ? LOL Dude... the cookie home tab mod was release almost a year ago in November (for the 2.0 ver). That's not THAT long ago.. LOL
Development for Rosie is not going too far because we don't have a cookiemonster equivalent in the Android world. All real modding is done in smali and I only know of ONE guy that can do serious modding to it.. RomanBB.
Unless we get someone like cookiemonster, Sense modding will never take off.
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^^^
whoa. energy you got a 3D ???!!!
/me prays for cookies
No.... I got a Sensation. But I also have a ROM ready for the 3D Just need some good testers...
sign me up as a beta.
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No.... I got a Sensation. But I also have a ROM ready for the 3D Just need some good testers...
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HOLY CRAP...You are bringing back memories of my WinMo days
I am up for beta testing as well!! I ran your ROMs on my TP2...
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BTW, OP...nobody messes with Sense since it's so much easier to just drop Launcher, Luancher Pro, ADW, etc in the ROM, instead.