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So I have a Thunderbolt, got it the first day that it came out. Made the decision that I would stick with stock until I'd had enough of it.
Long story short, my boyfriend got the EVO 3D, and rooted it within the week. Naturally I got jealous.
So here's my dilemma, I found the [Updated: 3/26]Easyroot + S-Off [Version 1.6.3.11] root, but I forgot that I had updated my software.
I did a factory reset hoping that it would reverse the update, but apparently I lost all of my information for no reason, because [news flash] it didn't work!
I guess my question now is... What are my options?
Am I screwed and stuck with stock now?
Will there be a new root developed for {stupid-people-who-updated-their-software} like me?
Is there an updated root already out there that I can try?! <~ I've been looking with no sucess!
Please help me!!!!
{{{{&& for those of you who are experienced.. I have been searching the forums for 2 days and I found a post about EVO's, but not Thunderbolt. So I'm sorry if you have managed to see a post with this type of question before. I did try the [Updated: 3/26]Easyroot + S-Off [Version 1.6.3.11] root, but nothing happens. & I didn't know where else to look.}}}
I don't think there has been a new root method for the updated RUU.
So I do believe your out of luck for now.
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That is exactly what I did NOT want to hear
Jcase's manual root method works on ever OTA out there. It's easy too. If you have any questions about it, just hit me up. I'd be happy to help.
Thanks loonatik78 -- i sent you a pm!
Easyroot will still work
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Easyroot will still work
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Please.... No.... I don't like saying "told ya so" when it doesn't work and "you're own your own now" when people that used that ask for help.
Maybe but they will try anyway. Then you can't help them.
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Maybe but they will try anyway. Then you can't help them.
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I already tried the easy AND 1 click root.. both didn't work, which is y I decided to ask for help on here.
I just wanted to know if there is a way to uninstall the manufacturer's update or if there is a Rom out that works for 1.7 something software... Not run around in circles on the same easy root that I already know won't work bc it says that version 1.2... And lower will work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
^^ still works fine after OTA
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Jcase's manual root method works on ever OTA out there. It's easy too. If you have any questions about it, just hit me up. I'd be happy to help.
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My wife is planning to get a T-Bolt pretty soon and without knowing what 'version' of s/w it will have when it arrives, you're saying 'no worries'. If she wants it rooted (our Eris' have been rooted since the exploit for it was available -- jcase was involved too !), I can use the manual (command-line) method in his sticky thread ?
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My wife is planning to get a T-Bolt pretty soon and without knowing what 'version' of s/w it will have when it arrives, you're saying 'no worries'. If she wants it rooted (our Eris' have been rooted since the exploit for it was available -- jcase was involved too !), I can use the manual (command-line) method in his sticky thread ?
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Current rooting methods (manual preferred) will work fine for any stock officially released firmware because it's all still unpatched Froyo so the exploit used still works.
The only time in the future that this will stop working is when the Gingerbread OTA rolls out.
Reason I ask is I am positive I've read from others who've gotten T-Bolts and mistakenly allowed a s/w update, presumably OTA, and now they can't root.
Is GB being pushed to a small # of phones, by chance ?
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Reason I ask is I am positive I've read from others who've gotten T-Bolts and mistakenly allowed a s/w update, presumably OTA, and now they can't root.
Is GB being pushed to a small # of phones, by chance ?
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Nope. User error on their part. They probably tried one of the auto-root scripts and then blamed it failing on the OTA.
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Nope. User error on their part. They probably tried one of the auto-root scripts and then blamed it failing on the OTA.
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I completely agree. Many of the rooting scripts out there are either out of date or use obsolete exploits. The OTA back in April, I think it was, required new exploits be used. Jcase has been on that like white on rice and I'm going to say this community stands strongly behind jcase and the method he's outlined. It has the best success rate, without question. Plus, everyone always says its much easier than it looks. If setting up the SDK or ADB is confusing, we are always glad to help too.
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I completely agree. Many of the rooting scripts out there are either out of date or use obsolete exploits. The OTA back in April, I think it was, required new exploits be used. Jcase has been on that like white on rice and I'm going to say this community stands strongly behind jcase and the method he's outlined. It has the best success rate, without question. Plus, everyone always says its much easier than it looks. If setting up the SDK or ADB is confusing, we are always glad to help too.
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and this is true!!! because last night my new friend loonatik helped me step by step root my phone! and now i LOVE my gingeritis!
my phone was updated [by me when the update first came out] to version 1.70.something.. and i was still able to do a root. it was manual, but considering i had no idea what i was doing.... once i got going with it the task seemed less daunting.
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I completely agree. Many of the rooting scripts out there are either out of date or use obsolete exploits. The OTA back in April, I think it was, required new exploits be used. Jcase has been on that like white on rice and I'm going to say this community stands strongly behind jcase and the method he's outlined. It has the best success rate, without question. Plus, everyone always says its much easier than it looks. If setting up the SDK or ADB is confusing, we are always glad to help too.
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Absolutely this.
courtesy of my rooted bolt
Sorry, turns out it wasn't a T-Bolt after all, but an Incredible 2.
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Current rooting methods (manual preferred) will work fine for any stock officially released firmware because it's all still unpatched Froyo so the exploit used still works.
The only time in the future that this will stop working is when the Gingerbread OTA rolls out.
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Okay, my wife got the Thunderbolt yesterday and within minutes of activating it, it prompted us for a s/w update, in the 73.xx mb range in size. I don't know what s/w version it's currently on and I kept rejecting the update. I need to remind her to do the same -- hopefully it's not too late. Or, is there no harm in taking the update ?
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Okay, my wife got the Thunderbolt yesterday and within minutes of activating it, it prompted us for a s/w update, in the 73.xx mb range in size. I don't know what s/w version it's currently on and I kept rejecting the update. I need to remind her to do the same -- hopefully it's not too late. Or, is there no harm in taking the update ?
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There's no harm in updating, but there's no point if you plan on rooting it. Part of the rooting method will wipe everything and reset it to an earlier software version. You'll then have to update(Using ROMs from here, not the OTA) to a newer version to catch up to the latest release or whatever ROM you choose to run. You're better off rooting now, then worrying about updates.
ive got a feeling the 605.5 update was the update we were supposed to get, but maybe vzw decided on holding on to it till they can patch the current s-off exploit.
call me cynical but coming from a droid x and i remember these type of things happening before with moto and vzw...to the point where devs waited for a new update before revealing how to get root or run cm9 using the 2nd init...
perhaps we should have waited for ics to drop first before unveiling s-off...
It was gonna be launched on other phones regardless.
I highly doubt it..we are a minority to the rest of verizon rezound users...so i doubt they would postpone it....but i can be wrong with some of big reds past behaviors
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My worst fear about it is that it is worse than the newest (5/7) leak and has S-OFF patched with hboot 2.26 or something. So people on the official track are screwed.
Hopefully that doesn't happen though.
just saying vzw is not above going all out against the dev community...even the gnex updates are subject to verizons approval even though the carriers were supposed to be cut out of the loop...vzw does not like anything they dont get money from that they could be charging for...extra functionality w/ no money=evil bad murder kill to them
it's more likely that verizon postponed it for a business reason, like waiting for the inc 4g to drop. it's a flagship device and they're going to want it to be the first HTC with ICS.
exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
Even if the OTA patches the S Off exploit, then we just don't take the OTA, and wait for our devs to use the OTA as the base for their ROMs.....that's how we used to do things on the OG EVO. Once you're rooted, you never, ever, took an OTA. I don't even think they could turn the security flag back on with an OTA update if they wanted to, but I'm not sure. I'm sure there's someone far more knowledgeable who can confirm or deny the truth of that.
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exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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Yes...absolutely! You don't need to flash separate radios and kernels if you don't want. You should do it now just in case...
if youre not comfortable with s-off then dont do it...as im sure htc will not revoke our ability to unlock the bootloader, and you dont need s-off to gain root...im just wondering for those of us that have s-off if we just made it harder for ourselves by unveiling the s-off method before we had the official ics and source... but as tspderek said, it may have just been a decision to sell a few more of the newer phones
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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I would get it done now. There's a chance, albeit small, that HTC patches the new HBOOT to block the exploit. Considering the steps we take to get S OFF, I'd doubt it though.
I understand people wanting to wait todo SOFF or being a little scared of the risks but i don't think anyone should be waiting or worried at this.
The SOFF method has been out for a while now, and alot of successful runs, with alot of troubleshoot threads, solutions - why be scared and wait? Id say just do it. Its running great for everyone whos done it and it gives you way more options with your device if you need to switch between firmware at this time. Why restrict yourself ?
Definitely s-off.
no reason not to.
Especially if you are still on the stock GB OTA release. It took me all of 3 minutes... start to finish. I'll even mail you my wire-trick wire if you need it
no. you need a blank sd card, that's all. when i did s-off i popped in my sd card, started the process, got it on the first go, installed the juopunutbear hboot, flashed recovery, and booted right back into my rom.
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Doesn't S-OFF require you to unlock the bootloader, and by unlocking the bootloader format your phone?
I'm completely stock without root and having to re-setup my phone is one of the main reasons I have not done the S-OFF yet.
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yes, you must unlock your bootloader... and root your phone (via installing amonRA recovery is easiest)
then you are ready to s-off.
I was stock GB phone, I unlocked/rooted and s-off'd it didn't take long at all.
yes you'll have to re-set up some things on your phone, but that's ok, you'll be fresh! All my important stuff is sync'd with google so I'm pretty rapid at wiping and starting from scratch. The benefits after doing this will far outdo any inconvenience of setting your phone up again. You can run a nandroid backup after you flash amonRA before doing s-off as well if you want, but the unlock procedure does give you a wipe unfortunately :-\ use Titanium Backup for your apps if you want to keep specific data about them, otherwise just re-install after you get setup again.
s-offing with a stock GingerBread phone is easy and fast.
Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
It's both hardware and software dependent IIRC
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Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
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This. But I think the exploit is both hardware and software, so theoretically they could patch the software side, if they cared enough to.
For new users, just my advice, worrying about this is pointless, it's kinda like us making threads that say next summer gas will be $7 a gallon (or $6 liter) and you keep yourself awake at night worrying about the "what ifs".
I've heard this came out a couple months ago, but my phone as yet to update on its own. When I try and check for an update, it says there are no updates to be found. And when I check my phone, my current software is 3.14.605.12. Anybody know how I can upgrade to the latest? Ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been nothing but trouble for me, and I'm hoping if I upgrade to the latest that some of these problems might go away. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
HTC Rezound
Completely Stock / No mods
Android 4.0.3
Software 3.14.605.12
Verizon / USA
fcukthenet said:
I've heard this came out a couple months ago, but my phone as yet to update on its own. When I try and check for an update, it says there are no updates to be found. And when I check my phone, my current software is 3.14.605.12. Anybody know how I can upgrade to the latest? Ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been nothing but trouble for me, and I'm hoping if I upgrade to the latest that some of these problems might go away. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
HTC Rezound
Completely Stock / No mods
Android 4.0.3
Software 3.14.605.12
Verizon / USA
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Here is the link to the global update: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ull-ruu-build-4-03-605-2-for-the-htc-rezound/ Lucky for you, since you haven't unlocked you bootloader or done anything otherwise, you can flash this in your bootloader and get the update with no problem.
Two notes on flashing that...first it's unofficial, so flashing it might risk your ability to get OTA's in the future. Second, it will wipe your data, apps, and internal storage. However, with those two caveats, it will work just fine.
I appreciate the input guys. However, both of you state I need to "flash" to do this - which looks to me (as stated above) it's an unofficial method of getting this update. I'm curious, is there a way I can do this a legit way? How come my phone did not take the update, while others did? How can I force my phone to update? I'd like to keep my phone as stock as possible and not do any modding to it.
If I really have no other options, then I guess flashing is my best bet. And considering the last phone I had that I took any time to mod was the first-gen iPhone, I have no clue what any of this lingo means - but I guess that's what Google is for. However if any of you have a quick link in mind you could post that might help me or at least point me in the right direction, it'd be appreciated. I looked at the link posted above to the actual ROM file and it has some simple install instructions, however I'm not sure if that's all I need to do considering I'm still fully stock. Thanks again guys for all your help.
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I appreciate the input guys. However, both of you state I need to "flash" to do this - which looks to me (as stated above) it's an unofficial method of getting this update. I'm curious, is there a way I can do this a legit way? How come my phone did not take the update, while others did? How can I force my phone to update? I'd like to keep my phone as stock as possible and not do any modding to it.
If I really have no other options, then I guess flashing is my best bet. And considering the last phone I had that I took any time to mod was the first-gen iPhone, I have no clue what any of this lingo means - but I guess that's what Google is for. However if any of you have a quick link in mind you could post that might help me or at least point me in the right direction, it'd be appreciated. I looked at the link posted above to the actual ROM file and it has some simple install instructions, however I'm not sure if that's all I need to do considering I'm still fully stock. Thanks again guys for all your help.
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your phone is up to date! like they said above and the global is unofficial, therefore putting the global ruu on your phone would be the latest!
fcukthenet said:
I've heard this came out a couple months ago, but my phone as yet to update on its own. When I try and check for an update, it says there are no updates to be found. And when I check my phone, my current software is 3.14.605.12. Anybody know how I can upgrade to the latest? Ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been nothing but trouble for me, and I'm hoping if I upgrade to the latest that some of these problems might go away. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
HTC Rezound
Completely Stock / No mods
Android 4.0.3
Software 3.14.605.12
Verizon / USA
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Run the 4.03.605.2 RUU. Let it boot 1 time, then wipe and install shrike's CounterShrike CM9 ROM. It's seriously a great ROM and super smooth in comparison to stock. Basically, what this phone should have been from day 1.
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your phone is up to date! like they said above and the global is unofficial, therefore putting the global ruu on your phone would be the latest!
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My apologies, but I don't quite understand. You're saying my phone is up to date with the 3.14.x.x software, and the 4.03.x.x that I'm looking for is actually some "custom" ROM and unofficial?
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My apologies, but I don't quite understand. My phone is up to date with the 3.14.x.x software, and the 4.03.x.x that I'm looking for is actually some "custom" ROM and unofficial?
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think of it like getting a Blu-Ray Movie Early. They say when the Blu-ray should be released but some guys who know people can get an Early Copy but modify it to make it Better than its original Release. And this is all totally legal.
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think of it like getting a Blu-Ray Movie Early. They say when the Blu-ray should be released but some guys who know people can get an Early Copy but modify it to make it Better than its original Release. And this is all totally legal.
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So this 4.03.x.x is just not out yet? I've been seeing news articles of them reporting on it as far back as August. Has it just not rolled out to every phone yet? If not, then I will continue to wait. I just thought my phone was messed up and wouldn't take the update.
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So this 4.03.x.x is just not out yet? I've been seeing news articles of them reporting on it as far back as August. Has it just not rolled out to every phone yet? If not, then I will continue to wait. I just thought my phone was messed up and wouldn't take the update.
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But waiting on Verizon to Roll out the Update will take a loooonng time. but Sites have the Latest (Unofficial)Build. Unofficial is kind of like Alpha, and Beta. Unofficial is inbetween Alpha n Beta.
It basically gives u global function so if your not going to other countries don't even worry about it. I promise if u take the time to figure everything out and flash it you won't be able to tell a difference. Just skip it
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fcukthenet said:
So this 4.03.x.x is just not out yet? I've been seeing news articles of them reporting on it as far back as August. Has it just not rolled out to every phone yet? If not, then I will continue to wait. I just thought my phone was messed up and wouldn't take the update.
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A few people got 4.03.605.1 a week or two after the 3.14.605.12 OTA, but they never mass rolled it out. I know of one person on XDA who got it as an OTA. 4.03.605.2 surfaced a few days later on Android Police, but I haven't heard of anyone getting it as an OTA, and there hasn't been a peep out of Verizon on it.
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A few people got 4.03.605.1 a week or two after the 3.14.605.12 OTA, but they never mass rolled it out. I know of one person on XDA who got it as an OTA. 4.03.605.2 surfaced a few days later on Android Police, but I haven't heard of anyone getting it as an OTA, and there hasn't been a peep out of Verizon on it.
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Awesome, just what I needed to know. I will just be patient then. Thanks!
Yep, basically the only reason why the global update ever made it to light is because the manufacturers like HTC like to "splash test" on a few customers, let them report back bugs and what not, at this point if there aren't any bugs or the bugs that are present are workable, they will release the update in mass to the rest of the public.
Basically, a splash tester knew what they were doing, whipped together that nice little "flashable" ruu package and released it for the rest of us to hack up for our own uses. Usually, we look forward to these little splash test releases because they do contain newer bug fixes, but they also contain new kernels, libs and other useful things we need to continue making roms like aosp or sense 4 work better
I'd say if you want it, go ahead and flash it. Its just not official as they say because it did not arrive onto your phone via ota update directly from htc and verizon. Although it is an official build built by htc.
Hi all, im just wondering if anyone knows the current status on the development for rooting the 4.3 (MJ7) update, or unlocking the bootloader, if possible. I am going to inherit a gs4 a little over half a year from now and im wondering if i will even be able to even root and put a rom on it like i did for my gs3. Do you think they will ever root & rom the last version they ever release for the phone? The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
Thanks
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Hi all, im just wondering if anyone knows the current status on the development for rooting the 4.3 (MJ7) update, or unlocking the bootloader, if possible. I am going to inherit a gs4 a little over half a year from now and im wondering if i will even be able to even root and put a rom on it like i did for my gs3. Do you think they will ever root & rom the last version they ever release for the phone? The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
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Maybe it's me. But if I'm dealing with people who do this kind of thing purely for the challenge of it, I don't ask them when they'll be done.
I'm not trying to be a smartass, but this kind of work is dealing with a bunch of unknowns. Like all other phones, eventually it'll likely be figured out. Until then, best you can do is tune into the channels they use to communicate with each other and you can gain an appreciation for both what they're up against and how they're progressing.
Should you continue to update? Each update will usually close the hole exploited to gain root. The process begins all over again. My experience on the two HTC devices I've had is that it takes several months to find the first exploit and several weeks to find new ones after each update.
You're a year and a half out from owning your own S4. Be comforted in the fact that by the time you get it, it'll be a piece of crap compared to the new phones that'll be out then.
Then again, my original Incredible and the Rezound are still quite usable phones today.
joedajoester said:
Hi all, im just wondering if anyone knows the current status on the development for rooting the 4.3 (MJ7) update, or unlocking the bootloader, if possible. I am going to inherit a gs4 a little over half a year from now and im wondering if i will even be able to even root and put a rom on it like i did for my gs3. Do you think they will ever root & rom the last version they ever release for the phone? The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
Thanks
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The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
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I can't see where it makes any difference. At this point in time I believe it's safe to say the S4 bootloader will never be unlocked. As for finding an exploit such as LOKI, I doubt it.
We do have SafeStrap which is a great achievement but not as good as LOKI as it won't allow ASOP ROMs to run.
Conclusion, learn to love the stock ROM, I believe you're going to have to live with it. You may be able to root which will allow you to remove bloat, let's hope so anyway....
NOTE: I should point out that 2 years from now I believe the manufacturers and carriers will have made ALL phones locked with no way to unlock or flash anything.
Meanwhile, the developers are still working so hope for the best but expect the worst.
Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Could you be a little more vague?
Can't revert to 11B
It's expected. Verizon is the Apple of android now. Locking and blocking so they can find ways to make even more $ from subscribers. Its shameful, but it's business. They have maybe the best service and until people start dropping them they can pretty much do what they want.
Just hang in there and hope that someone finds a way to downgrade so you can get root and twrp back. I believe @autoprime is looking into it in another thread. That's a good thing. :good: Be mad at Verizon still, but be patient too.
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He means v10b and v10c, of course, and many people are reporting the same issue. It may still be possible to revert to v10b from the OTA'd v10c, which would solve our problems with this OTA, but anyone who has not flashed v10c OTA yet should avoid it best as possible until there is better clear information about reverting.
Remember when Google first updated the Chromecast firmware and that patched the only known exploit for it ? It took a while to get around that. I think the Chromcast Devs eventually did, though...I quit following and just stayed stock.
How about instead of being furious with Verizon, you point the blame at yourself. You're the one who was stupid enough to take an OTA, despite common knowledge being that OTAs will patch exploits and have been known to prevent rolling back to older versions.
Not to pile on, but I am really surprised by the number of folks that have eagerly taken the OTA. As with just about any SW update, it's usually best to let someone else be the guinea pig. Not to say I'm not sympathetic. Still, at least your not on a Samsung. I spent the last year on my GS3 stuck in the past usually running TW 4.1.2, but at least I was free!
I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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It looks like you cannot revert to v10b via .tot, either. Still might be a way, but things seem rather bleak about that.
What is bad for us all is that developers, already annoyed at Verizon and LG both, for good reasons, are likely see there very few Verizon LG G3 users that are ever going to be able to benefit from their work left. So, they will give hacking the Verizon G3 up as not worthwhile, maybe, and we will be stuck with a stock-only device. Its a problem to consider.
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GS3 got Knox at 4.4 and couldn't be rolled back as I recall (might even have been when 4.3 released). As bad as that was for the unfortunate folks that took the OTA or had to do a warranty exchange, the worst part was that it fractured the development into two camps, and that seemed to expedite the winding down of dev support for that device. I really hope that isn't what happens to the G3.
FYI- I just saw this post from @autoprime basically suggesting evidence of anti-rollback code in the new BL. Not a shocker, as VZW has been employing that for a while now - at least on Moto and Samsung devices. Sigh...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56437577
Yep... First they locked down the S4...and a short time later the S3 got the Knox bootloader essentially locking everyone who updated into using TW. Safestrap helped many but AOSP was no longer an option for them. It really sucked for development on my S4 as you need to know if a room was for mdk or for Safestrap.
I'd hate to see that happen here to the G3...BUT i will not give up a custom recovery just to get the latest update.... Even if the development community never is able to get a working updated rom.
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patience is a virtue
Isn't this a fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-update-incoming-t2923354/page20
Someone on that thread found a way to get root and twrp back after the OTA. :good:
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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as im writing this, im readying my ultrabook to do the same. Sorry, my Samsung knowledge refers to my Fascinate/Nexus days, when the world made sense lol
I was pretty tempted to take the update. But coming from experience with Motorola, I knew better. I checked the forums first before taking it.
Not to lecture, but any time you root it's best to use the free app Uninstall Expert and freeze any potential updates. It saves a lot of heartache.
Surely this will get patched it's just going to take some time...
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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jfriend33 said:
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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So far I love my G3...but the nexus 6 is looking sexy....
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I'm using a droid turbo right now because I broke my g3 screen. Can't stand this p.o.s. Excited for my g3 replacement device. I'll have it 2m and I'll be back to normal.
BTW, screen and digitizer are one in the same on the g3. Crack your screen and touchscreen no longer works. Just FYI
Verizon Moto Droid Turbo... No simultaneous voice and data? What year is it again?