HTC Touch Dual 850 - Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development

I got a TD 850 which was for Telstra, its unlocked (so i was told) but i hate all the crapware that the carrier has on it. I would like to install a reg WM6 or even WM6.5 rom for it as one might find on the other unlocked version (non carrier) of the TD.
I would really appreciate it if someone could point me to the correct rom as i don't want to install the wrong one and possibly brick my device. Also pointing me to a decent guide on how to install it will be great too.
Thanks!

BrokenSafety said:
I got a TD 850 which was for Telstra, its unlocked (so i was told) but i hate all the crapware that the carrier has on it. I would like to install a reg WM6 or even WM6.5 rom for it as one might find on the other unlocked version (non carrier) of the TD.
I would really appreciate it if someone could point me to the correct rom as i don't want to install the wrong one and possibly brick my device. Also pointing me to a decent guide on how to install it will be great too.
Thanks!
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Welcome aboard - when you take the battery off of the device - what model does it say in the top left corner of the label?
I have a feeling that the Telstra 850 is a Neon, but I am unsure whether the ROMs for the Neon 400 are compatible. I was actually looking at getting a second hand one of these so I can get better coverage (my current phone uses 900 not 850, so I don't get true NextG or its coverage area)
DT

Oh.. its a neon 200

Firstly you have to HardSPL it so that you can install any ROM you want.
Here is a link to the thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2025514
Then find a ROM - the NEON 400 ROMs won't be any good for you as they are for CDMA devices, not GSM
Not sure what NEON 200 ROMs there are though at the moment - if I get a Telstra 850, I'll be cooking for it, but at the moment I have a Niki.
DT

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Htc Dual 850mhz Mod?

Hi, does anyone know how to enable 850mhz in this fone. please, very needed i bought thinking that this was quadband as htc elf ( touch )
thanks
I am not sure this is even possible.
Is the chip supporting 850?
PseudoReal said:
I am not sure this is even possible.
Is the chip supporting 850?
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Yes, the chip is quadband (same chip set as TyTN II).
MTM said:
Yes, the chip is quadband (same chip set as TyTN II).
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It's too bad, but the HTC TOUCH DUAL does not support 850mhz :-( My home network is 850 only and the HTC is useless in it!
Yes, it doesn't support 850 now, but the big question is it possible to support it with a different ROM. Probably a big project to lift the code from another HTC product that uses the same chip.
bxwatso said:
Yes, it doesn't support 850 now, but the big question is it possible to support it with a different ROM. Probably a big project to lift the code from another HTC product that uses the same chip.
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tom_condon is working on a new ROM for the touch dual now. maybe you could ask him?
It can very likely be done by enabling a bit in the NV RF Config item.
I am working on that, see here.
That would be awesome. For me, 850 Mhz and GPS are the two things keeping the Dual from being the ultimate phone to date.
Thanks,
Telstra is selling a 850 MHz Touch Dual on their NextG Network, but it is not the same as the reglar Tri-Band device. Seems HTC is actually selling multiple versions iof the device to suit different carriers.
a radio update or something can help? that would be ideal since i am in the same situation 3g is on a different mhz but phone is at 2100 for 3g
Just found out the phone will be release in the us sometime in Q2 they say it will be compatible with AT&T 3g hopefully the rom from this new phone can help us that have already bought it.
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There is a Touch Dual that supports 850MHZ codename "NEON" and not "NIKI"
There is a complete other Tranceiver chip inside.
NIKI is no Quadband Device!
So do you recommend selling my Niki and getting a Neon then to stay compatible with US networks? I know netrunner was saying there is a possibility the NV items can be changed to take out the 2100 and put in the 850
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yes u can change the NV-Items but the Chip dosn't support 850MHZ.
OR... we don't know enought about the RFR6300 Chip.
We need internal shots or a list of Chips from a NEON.

3g on a different frequency?

Apologize if this is a stupid question ...
But it it possible to get niki to do 3g on a freq other than 2100 ?
that would require a major hardware change, so its unlikely.
thank you. that helps.
On 2-14-08, HTC started selling the HTC Touch Dual 850 in Australia. The big question is whether it has the same chips inside as the Touch Dual. There has been some talk that the regular Touch Dual has a chip that works on the 850 frequency, so I'd say there is a good chance the two devices are the same with differnt ROMs.
We really need someone to upload the ROM from a Touch Dual 850.
I believe that there were two differing Qualcomm 7200 chipsets produced:
One with support for 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (the US version, in which the 850 & 1900 MHz band is used for UMTS). And one which supports 900/1800/1900/2100 MHz (for Europe) In which the 2100 MHz band is used for HSDPA.
You could be right though, it may be that the only differences are in software.
The device can't support all five frequencies(at least it shouldn't be able to ), but it may be possible to pick and choose by flashing radio roms.
Only time will tell...
I have read the lg ks20 manuel ... if you need more frequency, you need hardware parts! on of this parts are a RF switcher. the radio read out the nv ram too.
I'd say that just about does it. I will be wanting an 850 model soon.
in the moment ... i think ... no 850mhz nike!!!
hoping a radio update can do it for the niki since i just bought one in the us and just learnt about this issue.
do you think the australia rom would fix it or the radio, i do know the australia rom is available for download but isn't the radio more important for this issue?
NetrunnerAT said:
I have read the lg ks20 manuel ... if you need more frequency, you need hardware parts! on of this parts are a RF switcher. the radio read out the nv ram too.
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Has anyone found out any new info about this? I too have issues with the Niki100 not covering all the bands I need for coverage in my area and have no 3G. With the US Touch Dual coming out soon, or with the Australia release, I was hoping someone had a radio flash that could provie if upgrading the radio fimrware worked.
you havent understand what i have tell!!!
niki havent the right RV Switch!!! You cant change anything to handle G3 network on 850MHz or 1900MHz!!!
the US Touch Dual or AUS Touch Dual isnt a HTC Niki ... it is a HTC NEON!!!
Both can use the same OS and Radio Roms! The Radio Rom is every time the same!
@NetrunnerAT
just to be fare:
there are 2 models of HTC Touch Dual available here in Australia:
HTC Touch Dual UMTS 2100MHz
HTC Touch Dual UMTS 850MHz (Telstra NextG frequencies)
ok again ... Touch Dual 850MHz is a HTC NEON!!!! Both Device have the same Case and a simulare Chipset, but different RV Chips!!!
Don't bug me!

Touch Dual Comming to the US

I've recently read the touch dual will be released in the US through Best Buy as an unlocked phone. Now i was wondering if anyone has any info on this, will it have a different chipset in it or do you guys think we can rip the radio and rom from that model and put it onto the european model giving us the 850/1900 for hsdpa instead of 2100, as of right now i can't even get Edge speeds i am stuck on GPRS for some reason.
http://press-releases.techwhack.com/18184-htc-touch-dual-2
i think touch dual in usa is neon, not nike
also touch dual just released in korea is Neon, not Nike... i am not sure what it means that they have a different name ( just wm 6.1? or also other fixes? ) anyways, i have the korean one. i don't know how to copy the rom but if you need one... i have the pda and i can try.

Offer $300 for T-Mobile UMTS

If anyone can get my Pro to work on T-Mobiles 3G network. I heard they are going to carry it and that hardware is the same its just the software....
Shoot me if its not passable but im trying :/
Wow, that's practically a 3rd of the devices price :O. I'm sure people would help you without offering the money. I would wait for the cooked ROMs as the might just fix the issue.
O yea
EDIT: You have to show me how to instal it and give me everything I need to instal it
thanks
GlobalM3 said:
O yea
EDIT: You have to show me how to instal it and give me everything I need to instal it
thanks
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I assume you're kidding right? As the Raphael forum is brand spankin' new I'll throw you a bone and guide you to ROM upgrading guide for the Kaiser from the Kaiser's Wiki. Upgrading the Raphael's ROM will be similar. BTW, seems nobody knows for sure if the UK version of the Raph has the necessary hardware for UMTS with AT&T or T-mobile.
bersca said:
I assume you're kidding right? As the Raphael forum is brand spankin' new I'll throw you a bone and guide you to ROM upgrading guide for the Kaiser from the Kaiser's Wiki. Upgrading the Raphael's ROM will be similar. BTW, seems nobody knows for sure if the UK version of the Raph has the necessary hardware for UMTS with AT&T or T-mobile.
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Thanks for the help.
Im just lazy to look at all the numbers and roms and threads on if and what works. I just want the radio for 3g T-Mobile to work. It be nice to have some other cool features as well but I really need 3G
thanks again
Yea, as i stated earlier, you have to try out the different ROMs and have the exact settings to get it to work.
kareem9nba said:
Yea, as i stated earlier, you have to try out the different ROMs and have the exact settings to get it to work.
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I heard that it can brick your phone.....
thanks again
If you follow the instructions, you should be good to go. Just read and once you feel comfortable, do it.
See theproblem is its all over whelming to me.
I don't know if its 1700 or 2100 the phone has to have to work on tmo. And I also seen that the diamond shows 1700/1900 and 2100 umts but they are not active when someone selects it....
Kind of understand my position?
Tnx again for your reply
GlobalM3 - why don't you call TMO support phone number and ask which band to choose for 3G? Probably you also need to try to activate hsupa/hsdpa.
p.s.: anyway you should flash your phone to newest rom and radio available, possibly the fix is already in it...
GlobalM3 said:
See theproblem is its all over whelming to me.
I don't know if its 1700 or 2100 the phone has to have to work on tmo. And I also seen that the diamond shows 1700/1900 and 2100 umts but they are not active when someone selects it....
Kind of understand my position?
Tnx again for your reply
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t-mobile uses umts 2100
it not being active can have many origins
u need a abbo for it , a login, server ip etc
best to check with the customerservice or on the t-mobile website
you can register your account there and the phone
once on the customerpage of your account you can choose to have the settings send by sms
this will auto-configure the proper settings
Guys I am referring to T-Mobile USA 3G not Euro T-Mobile.
THanks for the shot at help
GlobalM3 said:
Guys I am referring to T-Mobile USA 3G not Euro T-Mobile.
THanks for the shot at help
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T-mobile usa uses 1700 and 2100.
GlobalM3 said:
I heard that it can brick your phone.....
thanks again
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Well that's propably why you'll be seeing Rom's being singed to flash to Oli's SPL just like in th Diamond forum's
The main setup is safety.
Bricked devices being sent back to the Provider or HTC is in no one's Best interest (Excuse me if i used the incorrect phrasing here, but you know what i'm trying to say)
Heck i think if you donated 75 to XDA and 75 to anyone willing to help you flash and get the right tools there'd be plenty of users willing to help you out.
I think the most posters above are only trying to save you some money.
You'll need to flash a radio ROM from the AT&T ROMs. In fact, if you can, flashing the whole AT&T ROM may help.
I know AT&T and T-Mo USA have different bands, but the AT&T ROM is the only US ROM/Radio ROM, and so is the most likely to work (unless the devices ship with a radio ROM that covers all bands).
ROM flashing may come with a risk of bricking. Nothing is risk free, but the official RUUs are likely to work best (if the device is not CID locked that is)
Then I will donate some of that money to XDA
I wonder if att has the right band... but why would it :./
Thanks
It may not have the right band, but it's the only radio ROM that'll work at all on US 3G networks.
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It may not have the right band, but it's the only radio ROM that'll work at all on US 3G networks.
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So you are saying that the radio supports it but no the software?
GlobalM3 said:
So you are saying that the radio supports it but no the software?
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I don't know. But without the software, there's no change the hardware will work fully.
As stated, T-mo US uses UMTS 1700 and 2100. The problem is T-mo is separating HSPA between the two bands: 1700 for the uplink (HSUPA) and 2100 for the downlink (HSDPA). I may be wrong, but I don't think any other carrier does this (AT&T 3G uses 850/1900, but both links are available in both bands).
It is unclear at this time whether any of the radio chipsets in current Europe/Asia 3G handsets can support this split implementation, henceforth referred to as AWS (even though AWS is a bit of a misnomer, since AWS refers only to the US 1700/2100 frequencies and not necessarily the split-HSPA configuration T-mo US is using).
We will probably have to wait until T-mo/HTC puts out an AWS-capable device and dissect it to see which radio chipset it uses. If the Pro has the same chipset, there might be a good chance of flashing the radio to support T-mo 3G.
Further Reading:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/aws/index.php?p=i
http://www.breakitdownblog.com/3g-iphone-may-not-work-on-t-mobile-3g-network/

New AUS ROM and Radio - Need Help to DL

VOID this is a Diamond ROM, Post 2 still valid
2nd Download
Does anyone know what this download would do? Is it for branding the phone?
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=2&dl_id=419
HTC Touch Pro ROM code for Optus and Vodafone Network Customers
Installation Instructions: Follow the instructions below to install this software onto your device.
HTC Touch Pro ROM code for Optus and Vodafone Network - version 1.94.710.2
HTC Touch Pro ROM code for Optus and Vodafone Network - Download and Update Instructions
Australian 3 Rom & Radio Upgrade
This Info has been covered in a previous post-I installed the upgrade on my touch pro and it is pretty quick and smooth. I found it much better than the stock rom that came with the phone.
I did experience dropped calls for a short period of time but it is all good now.
The radio works well with my GPS and Tomtom
Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455947
This the 3 Branded Rom the link that I posted is Optus/Voda Which is umbranded
aussieak said:
Here is the info
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=465&news_id=23
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Can you share this Rom by Rapidshare ??
tukan said:
Can you share this Rom by Rapidshare ??
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I would be glad to as soon as I can downloaded my SN wont let me download them I need a AUS Optus or Voda SN
aussieak said:
I would be glad to as soon as I can downloaded my SN wont let me download them I need a AUS Optus or Voda SN
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Same by me....
The link to Optus ROM on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs does not work. Can somebody repost? My Fuze Raphael does not have 900 UMTS frequency listed and I would like to flash it with Optus ROM in order to get YesG coverage. Am I on the right track?
irexe said:
The link to Optus ROM on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs does not work. Can somebody repost? My Fuze Raphael does not have 900 UMTS frequency listed and I would like to flash it with Optus ROM in order to get YesG coverage. Am I on the right track?
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No as it's hardware dependent the bands not software..
Well, I have the original AT&T HTC Fuze. According to the GSMArena, it should support 900 UMTS (HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - HTC Fuze), which is not listed in my unit.
I am using a Touch Pro on Optus and live in a rural area that has only the 900Mhz 3G network. The 900Mhz band doesn't show up in the settings no matter which ROM I flash....yet I'm still picking up up the 900Mhz band without any problems. Try setting your band settings to "auto" and see if you can get 3G...
Today I flashed Energy.RAPHAEL.21889.Standard_27.Jan.2010.rar ROM. Guess what? Now I have the desired UMTS 900/2100 displayed. In a few days I will go to the country area, with YesG (UMTS 900) coverage only, and we'll see whether it is working. My Radio is 1.08.25.20 which seems to be popular here in Australia, even though my TytnII has better reception at the same spot.
Another thing I want to try is VOIP, which is working fine on NOKIA E51, but not so on Windows based HTC, where it is quite unusable. Apparently, there is native support for it in WM6.5, so, I don't know, whether I have to add rilphone.dll (which version) to it?
irexe said:
Today I flashed Energy.RAPHAEL.21889.Standard_27.Jan.2010.rar ROM. Guess what? Now I have the desired UMTS 900/2100 displayed. In a few days I will go to the country area, with YesG (UMTS 900) coverage only, and we'll see whether it is working. My Radio is 1.08.25.20 which seems to be popular here in Australia, even though my TytnII has better reception at the same spot.
Another thing I want to try is VOIP, which is working fine on NOKIA E51, but not so on Windows based HTC, where it is quite unusable. Apparently, there is native support for it in WM6.5, so, I don't know, whether I have to add rilphone.dll (which version) to it?
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you can change that drop down yourself from the registry, there should be 5 entries there but generally most roms will only show the first 3 (thats all they use in the US)

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