Ok I'm worried because I read some forums today saying that clockworkmod recovery will give more chances to brick your phone so I want to know which recovery is best to use
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Plainjane1 with ota 2.1
and evil Eris 2.0.1
I'm using amonra and have read some of the same things. I'd love for someone to let me know what the difference is. I'm also curious why ROM Manager makes you use Clockwork.
Rooted Eris running Eris Lightning (CyanogenMOD build)
RA is the only recovery to use CLOCKWORK has given people bricks....me included. It didn't happen right away I had been using CLOCK for about a month and a half before i had problems with it.
Amon RA no question
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saintdice said:
I'm using amonra and have read some of the same things. I'd love for someone to let me know what the difference is. I'm also curious why ROM Manager makes you use Clockwork.
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you can use amon_ra with rom manager ..... it gives you the option of installing amon_ra
ROM manager has always said "Needs Clockwork mod" for me...
I used clockwork recovery image with the rom manager for a little while, mainly just because it was easier then flashing an image manually.
after a couple times of nandroid backups not working, and the talks of how it bricks the eris, I sucked it up and installed Amon_Ra's. never had a problem with it.
I get the same. Maybe the option shows up with the paid version'
Hungry Man said:
ROM manager has always said "Needs Clockwork mod" for me...
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Eris running Eris Lightning (CyanogenMOD build)
I had the paid version.
Hungry Man said:
I had the paid version.
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and you could flash roms using armons recovery via the interface in rom manager? i think thats what they were getting at. not just flashing the recovery.
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Since clockwork doesnt check for verification, what if i flashed, say, a Nexus one or Incred rom... what would happen?
Im asking this first so i dont get a brick
I going to go with a brick, But i heard some one on one of these forums talking about how he flashed the radios for the evo on his eris and it didnt brick, He also did a bunch of other stuff that "should" have bricked his phone but did not.
So basically what im saying here is i have no clue, lol
Well i just tried flashing the Incredible MIUI rom. Nothing happened so now im nandroiding.
Anyway when is that rom gonna come to us??
Nikolai2.1 said:
Well i just tried flashing the Incredible MIUI rom. Nothing happened so now im nandroiding.
Anyway when is that rom gonna come to us??
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no clue, but using clockwork on your eris is like playing Russian Roulette, eventually you're going to shoot yourself in the head.
Delvaris said:
no clue, but using clockwork on your eris is like playing Russian Roulette, eventually you're going to shoot yourself in the head.
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My Eris is weird. Whenever i flash clockwork i can only get to it via rom manager. Whenever I hold vol up and power it takes me to Amon Ra.... I use Amon Ra, just flashed clockwork today. I guess my Eris is telling me NO!
Nikolai2.1 said:
My Eris is weird. Whenever i flash clockwork i can only get to it via rom manager. Whenever I hold vol up and power it takes me to Amon Ra.... I use Amon Ra, just flashed clockwork today. I guess my Eris is telling me NO!
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Ya that's how mine works too. If you flash it from Rom Manager it won't replace Amon Ra for some reason. Guess it's a good thing though in case clockwork decides to be bad haha.
Well, I'm speculating here, because I've never used Clockwork, but I did notice in a past posting here about nandroid backups under clockwork, that it makes a backup copy of the recovery partition in every backup.
I suppose that might mean that it only temporarily flashes clockwork into place in the recovery and then restores the recovery partition when it finishes (if a nandroid restore has not taken place)...?
I can't imagine why it would make recovery partition backups unless it intended to use them... during restores.
That's just a guess, but it is consistent with your observations.
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Hey all.
I've been trying to flash ShadowROM onto my eris (got the eris dl off their site), but everytime I try to flash it on it gives me "E:missing file: recovery/recovery-from-boot.p" and "E:Verification failed" and then aborts the installation.
So I then tried re-downloading the rom, but the same thing happened again.
Any ideas on what might be going on? I did all my wipes and everything so I'm not really sure what could be going on. Also I have been using Evil Eris for a while, if that makes any difference.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
EDIT: Also I'm currently on 2.1 so I'm not sure if theres anything I need to do to be able to put a 2.2 rom on my eris.
greekstallion said:
Hey all.
I've been trying to flash ShadowROM onto my eris (got the eris dl off their site), but everytime I try to flash it on it gives me "E:missing file: recovery/recovery-from-boot.p" and "E:Verification failed" and then aborts the installation.
So I then tried re-downloading the rom, but the same thing happened again.
Any ideas on what might be going on? I did all my wipes and everything so I'm not really sure what could be going on. Also I have been using Evil Eris for a while, if that makes any difference.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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At this time it doesn't work with Amon's recovery. It only will work if you use clockwork, which isn't recommended. I got it to work but I use a rom kitchen and replaced the boot-img.
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At this time it doesn't work with Amon's recovery. It only will work if you use clockwork, which isn't recommended. I got it to work but I use a rom kitchen and replaced the boot-img.
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Ah I see, hrm I really wanted to give it a try too.
Out of curiosity, why isn't clockwork recommended?
greekstallion said:
Ah I see, hrm I really wanted to give it a try too.
Out of curiosity, why isn't clockwork recommended?
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There have been a few reports of bricks from just flashing roms.
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At this time it doesn't work with Amon's recovery. It only will work if you use clockwork, which isn't recommended. I got it to work but I use a rom kitchen and replaced the boot-img.
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You don't need to replace the boot.img....the rom just needs to be signed and it will flash fine amon's. Clockwork can load an unsigned rom but amons can't....
Conap said:
You don't need to replace the boot.img....the rom just needs to be signed and it will flash fine amon's. Clockwork can load an unsigned rom but amons can't....
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Thanks for the info that would have been easier. I just replace it because of the error message.
**please ignore, sorry!**
Clockwork wont hurt your phone. Also when you go into to clockwork and flash clockwork recovery it will only temp use clockwork as a recovery just to install the rom. After that it will boot into amon.
"Clockwork won't hurt your phone" Boyyyyyyyyy I bet a lot of people with broken eris's would be glad to hear that!
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"Clockwork won't hurt your phone" Boyyyyyyyyy I bet a lot of people with broken eris's would be glad to hear that!
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You running clockwork Hungry Man? I wasn't ever trying to stop anyone, I just wanted them to look into it themselves.
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You don't need to replace the boot.img....the rom just needs to be signed and it will flash fine amon's. Clockwork can load an unsigned rom but amons can't....
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Im not knew to the rooting and flashing thing when it comes to my eris, but i do have to ask for my knowledge: what do you mean by the rom needs to be signed?? thanks!!
duccicucci said:
Im not knew to the rooting and flashing thing when it comes to my eris, but i do have to ask for my knowledge: what do you mean by the rom needs to be signed?? thanks!!
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He means that this rom will not work with amons recovery because it isn't signed. You can create a zip that isn't sign, meaning you never used a program that signs zips, but you can't flash a zip in amons unless it is signed. So if you just create a zip it probably won't work, but if you use an autosigner then you will be in buisness. I hope this helps, probably not because I have been drinking.
Just so there's full information in case someone finds this thread in the future.
There was a bug with using Clockwork Mod Recovery with the Eris. They squashed it, at least 2-3 months ago.
Besides, you don't have to get rid of amon in order to use clockwork. Just download ROM Manager from the Market and it will make it so that you can load clockwork from amon. Then you get all the advantages of ROM Manager and clockwork without any hassles.
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I'm having issues loading the rom, it keeps staying on the 3 skateboarding droids then it reboots back to the skateboarding droids whats going on?
johnny quest said:
I'm having issues loading the rom, it keeps staying on the 3 skateboarding droids then it reboots back to the skateboarding droids whats going on?
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This seems to be a hit or miss build for the Eris. About 50% (guestimated) of Eris users are unable to boot with v0.2.x and there is no known reason why, even after viewing logcats.
I have dropped the entire desirec device configuration (a mix of kaos & conap) and have forked over a pure conap device config for v0.3.x to attempt to fix this issue. We won't know for sure until v0.3.0 finally releases to the masses. All my testers (even myself) are able to run v0.2.x just fine.
There is no ETA for v0.3.0 at this time.
I'm sorry if this is off topic but I need to ask. Were can you get themes for ShadowRom? Do you just use anything that is for cynogen? Is it best to use metamorph or and update.zip?
I flashed shadowrom using clockmod just fine.
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I'm sorry if this is off topic but I need to ask. Were can you get themes for ShadowRom? Do you just use anything that is for cynogen? Is it best to use metamorph or and update.zip?
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We currently have zero themes for the eris. We rely on themers to provide ports, which none have done yet.
Guess I'm one of the lucky ones
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This seems to be a hit or miss build for the Eris. About 50% (guestimated) of Eris users are unable to boot with v0.2.x and there is no known reason why, even after viewing logcats.
I have dropped the entire desirec device configuration (a mix of kaos & conap) and have forked over a pure conap device config for v0.3.x to attempt to fix this issue. We won't know for sure until v0.3.0 finally releases to the masses. All my testers (even myself) are able to run v0.2.x just fine.
There is no ETA for v0.3.0 at this time.
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I flashed this rom and it was slow and jittery and all around not good.
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Hi everyone.
I'm pretty new to android, but I'm quite good at following instructions. Basically I've tried doing a nandroid backup with ROM Manager and everytime it reboots to make a backup it goes to a black screen with a phone in the middle of the screen with a red warning sign next to it. I've always tried booting into recovery and I get the same result. I first found this out while trying to follow the instructions for replacing the status and battery icons. Has anyone else had this issue?
I'm using ROM Manager v3.0.0.1 on a stock HTC MySense ROM from TMO running Android v2.2.1.
Thanks in advance for anyone that knows what I'm apparently doing wrong.
when you opened ROM Manager did you select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery"? if not try that, it's the only time mine has what your's is doing. I got a little excited to flash Iced-Glacier when I first got the phone and accidentally skipped that step and had same issue
Yeah I first clicked on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery and it currently says Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 2.5.1.2. I just redid the flash and tried to boot into recovery mode and I'm still getting that error picture upon reboot.
Is there a setting on the phone somewhere that would cause this?
I am not positive 100% but I think I know what you mean; and I had it once due to very low battery charge. See if it is the problem or not.
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Yeah I first clicked on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery and it currently says Current Recovery: ClockworkMod 2.5.1.2. I just redid the flash and tried to boot into recovery mode and I'm still getting that error picture upon reboot.
Is there a setting on the phone somewhere that would cause this?
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The phone with the triangle is the stock recovery image. Others have had to try flash the ClockworkMod Recovery several times. You may need to as well.
this is what i did, not sure if your doing the same thing or not. i clicked on Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, MY4G came up and i clicked that and then clicked on backup current rom.
Alright so I've tried it with a full battery and I had the same result. I also tried reflashing several times with the current version and rebooting. I even tried to load some of the older versions of clockwork through ROM Manager and everytime I tried it spits out an error. I don't understand how I could be having such a hard time with something everyone seems to be able to do effortlessly.
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R u sure u r rooted with S-off? If u r then u may have to flash recovery from ADB. Some people have not been able to get recovery to stick through ROM manager. There is a thread in the development section that explains how to do this.
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Really? I have not heard that...I'll have to check up on that. It seems that this problem would be more common, but I guess not as I have had little luck in finding information on my own about this problem.
Just in case anyone is following this thread with the same problem as me, this is the post that the previous poster was referring to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852905&highlight=recovery
UPDATE:
Ok I figured out what was wrong. Apparently although I had root access on my phone and able to run things like Titanium Pro and Adfree and others with root privileges it wasn't good enough.
I followed the instructions here on how to permaroot your phone by pushing gfree to it. Once I did that I attempted to manually flash clockworkmod, which I ended up running into other issues. On a lark I tried installing clockworkmod through ROM Manager after permarooting and it finally installed it properly!
I love doing stuff like this, thanks to everyone for their input as it guided me to finally solving this. I'm off to do a nandroid backup now.
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R u sure u r rooted with S-off? If u r then u may have to flash recovery from ADB. Some people have not been able to get recovery to stick through ROM manager. There is a thread in the development section that explains how to do this.
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I have NEVER been able to flash Recovery with ROM manager. It says it does it but corrupts if everytime! Note: There has been some recent updates to ROM Manager and I haven't tried lately.
krypto16 said:
R u sure u r rooted with S-off? If u r then u may have to flash recovery from ADB. Some people have not been able to get recovery to stick through ROM manager. There is a thread in the development section that explains how to do this.
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IIRC the security protocol doesn't have to be off to flash clockwork ROM you do have to be rooted, VISONary.apk of course. I've turned my S=on just to make sure and it [clockworkROM] works pretty flawlessly.
Hey hey, it's great to see infraled out here! I am rooted/S=Off via the first VISIONary thread that was posted...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
I installed Clockwork, flashed Clockwork Recovery and was expecting to have to do it twice, as outlined in this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021
It only took one shot for me and it worked perfectly. The very first try, I powered off, powered on w/ vol down, went into Recovery and wham, there was Clockwork in its green glory. I figured I was just lucky and that once I rebooted, it would be lost and I'd have to flash again. Not so. Did a backup right away, worked flawlessly.
Looking forward to Iced Glacier, eVil and Cyanogen over the holiday break...
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Looking forward to Iced Glacier, eVil and Cyanogen over the holiday break...
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Cyanogen Gets my vote... But i've always loved T/DB's ROMS.
Recently rooted My new MyTouch 4G, downloaded the paid version of rom manager. I didn't understand why there are none of the current roms like the iced glacier, roms made by evil and several others listed as possible roms for flashing. The only roms are the cyanogenmod nightly builds. The cyanogenmod 6.1.2 RC2 isn't listed either. Do I need to do anything to get those listed or is that just the way it is???
Thank you,
Vinny
I'm used to using clockworkmod... I have experience with a galaxy tab, nook, and fascinate.
What to the Tbolt guys use as a replacement for clockworkmod? To do backup/restor rom and kernel flash?
I've rooted my Tbolt via HBoot but I would like to create a backup of my system before playing with new roms.
Download Rom manager from the market. Open it and flash CWM. Then backup rom. Done.
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LBJM said:
I'm used to using clockworkmod... I have experience with a galaxy tab, nook, and fascinate.
What to the Tbolt guys use as a replacement for clockworkmod? To do backup/restor rom and kernel flash?
I've rooted my Tbolt via HBoot but I would like to create a backup of my system before playing with new roms.
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We use ClockworkMod on the Thunderbolt. Most people install ROM manager after rooting their phone and install ClockworkMod from there. Otherwise there is PG05IMG.zip where you can install ClockworkMod from the bootloader.
I don't think there is an alternative to CMW. I know Amon Ra hasn't come to us yet.
Oh so rather than I flash CWM by hand there's an app for that LOL
Thanks guys.
yup... go get ROM manager, open it up, and up at the top it will tell you what recovery you have. from there you can install it real easy.
Are there any clear benefits of one recovery over the other? I'm a fan of TeamWin but I'm comfortable with CWM... Is either recovery clearly superior?
Preference is the deciding factor.
Appreciate my help? Thank me
Not sure which one is better, but i've been using ClockworkMod 4.0.1.4 that came with Revolutionary S-OFF tool and it's worked flawlessly so far.
Do CWM work with Rom Manager
I personally like TWRP for the customization options plus the race horse is kinda cool too.
Nope...
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bluediablito said:
Do CWM work with Rom Manager
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Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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Yep, I was curious and used rom manager to flash the recovery... worked perfect. I enjoy being able to go into rom manager and select "reboot to recovery" instead of having to hold down button combination (i know, lazy).
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Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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How? Where?
Thank you!!!!
karikian said:
How? Where?
Thank you!!!!
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You can just click on the first option in Rom Manager, which is "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery". That's pretty much it.
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Yes. I just updated to 4.0.1.5 with it today. Fixes charging bug while OFF with Fastboot off.
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I can confirm that 4.0.1.5 fixes the charging bug as well.
I'm a big fan of Rom Manager. I use it to organize my backups. I've used since day one of the OG Evo and never had a problem with it. If anyone is having any bugs, go into the market and download rom manager and update clockwork mod recovery. Mines working flawlessly!
I remember a long time ago, people claimed that clockwork recovery had a problem with wiping cache and dalvik cache. Is that still an issue? Thats the only reason I stopped using rom manager back in the day.
knlmwq said:
I remember a long time ago, people claimed that clockwork recovery had a problem with wiping cache and dalvik cache. Is that still an issue? Thats the only reason I stopped using rom manager back in the day.
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It did on the OG EVO, but so far on the EVO 3D I haven't had any problems.
knlmwq said:
I remember a long time ago, people claimed that clockwork recovery had a problem with wiping cache and dalvik cache. Is that still an issue? Thats the only reason I stopped using rom manager back in the day.
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Funny. That was just a year ago. I am not laughing at you. I am laughing with you.
Sent from a 3VO. Long live the EVO.
Im using twrp and it wrks amazing very quick and stable my fone failed to let me use cwm when i first rooted my fone
htce3d said:
Im using twrp and it wrks amazing very quick and stable my fone failed to let me use cwm when i first rooted my fone
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Punctuation is your friend. Use it. Not just to make yourself sound more intelligent, but to help the eyes of those reading it. =D
there shouldnt be any issues when flashing the newest clockwork right? say, making a backup in the CWM that came with REVO and then trying to restore it with the newest clockwork? i feel like that is an issue simply because i made a backup of my stock rom with the newest recovery and i got the MD5 error, and i cant restore it. im doing a full backup and restore test right now, ill report back.
EDIT:alright so i was able to do a full restore with the newest clockwork. i guess i just got a bad NAND on my stock rom. and the funny thing is the same thing happend with a stock rom on my G2. what causes this damn MD5 error?
That would be appreciated by many here... Don't want to get stuck with no way to restore
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there shouldnt be any issues when flashing the newest clockwork right? say, making a backup in the CWM that came with REVO and then trying to restore it with the newest clockwork? i feel like that is an issue simply because i made a backup of my stock rom with the newest recovery and i got the MD5 error, and i cant restore it. im doing a full backup and restore test right now, ill report back.
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I installed TWRP, but I'd like to be able to use the CWM Rom Manger. Can I download Rom Manager from the Market, and have it install CWM over my TWRP install?