I'm used to using clockworkmod... I have experience with a galaxy tab, nook, and fascinate.
What to the Tbolt guys use as a replacement for clockworkmod? To do backup/restor rom and kernel flash?
I've rooted my Tbolt via HBoot but I would like to create a backup of my system before playing with new roms.
Download Rom manager from the market. Open it and flash CWM. Then backup rom. Done.
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LBJM said:
I'm used to using clockworkmod... I have experience with a galaxy tab, nook, and fascinate.
What to the Tbolt guys use as a replacement for clockworkmod? To do backup/restor rom and kernel flash?
I've rooted my Tbolt via HBoot but I would like to create a backup of my system before playing with new roms.
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We use ClockworkMod on the Thunderbolt. Most people install ROM manager after rooting their phone and install ClockworkMod from there. Otherwise there is PG05IMG.zip where you can install ClockworkMod from the bootloader.
I don't think there is an alternative to CMW. I know Amon Ra hasn't come to us yet.
Oh so rather than I flash CWM by hand there's an app for that LOL
Thanks guys.
yup... go get ROM manager, open it up, and up at the top it will tell you what recovery you have. from there you can install it real easy.
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Ok I'm worried because I read some forums today saying that clockworkmod recovery will give more chances to brick your phone so I want to know which recovery is best to use
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Plainjane1 with ota 2.1
and evil Eris 2.0.1
I'm using amonra and have read some of the same things. I'd love for someone to let me know what the difference is. I'm also curious why ROM Manager makes you use Clockwork.
Rooted Eris running Eris Lightning (CyanogenMOD build)
RA is the only recovery to use CLOCKWORK has given people bricks....me included. It didn't happen right away I had been using CLOCK for about a month and a half before i had problems with it.
Amon RA no question
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I'm using amonra and have read some of the same things. I'd love for someone to let me know what the difference is. I'm also curious why ROM Manager makes you use Clockwork.
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you can use amon_ra with rom manager ..... it gives you the option of installing amon_ra
ROM manager has always said "Needs Clockwork mod" for me...
I used clockwork recovery image with the rom manager for a little while, mainly just because it was easier then flashing an image manually.
after a couple times of nandroid backups not working, and the talks of how it bricks the eris, I sucked it up and installed Amon_Ra's. never had a problem with it.
I get the same. Maybe the option shows up with the paid version'
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ROM manager has always said "Needs Clockwork mod" for me...
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I had the paid version.
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I had the paid version.
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and you could flash roms using armons recovery via the interface in rom manager? i think thats what they were getting at. not just flashing the recovery.
well theres a lot of old info out there, having a hard time sorting some of this stuff out!
I have a stock Eris that came from Verizon with 2.1 on it already. I'd like to root it, but does that mean I have to install a custom ROM? or is there a way to get root with the ROM thats already on the phone? Sorry noob questions I know but I've read over the adb command stuff and it sound easy, but I'd like some clarification on what each command does and what each file is for, etc...I have the sdk set up already on my computer. I hear stuff about bootloader versions, radio versions and stuff too, does this stuff get modified as well during this process? and if so, is there a way to revert to 100% stock if I have to send it in for warranty or insurance? keep in mind this phone already had 2.1 from verizon, if that matters.
You can root your phone using jcase's 1 click root app from the market all you have to do is run the app, reboot into recovery by holding power and volume up or down(mine ia volume up my roomates is volume down) and flash the rootme.zip file the app places on your sd card. Doing this will root your current os and you will not lose any data. At that point you can wipe and flash a custom rom instead of the rootme.zip by having one downloaded and already on your sd card. Make sure its not in a folder. If you want to do things like overclocking you will need a custom rom as the stock kernel does not support it. You can also just flash a new kernel its the same as flashing a rom. Anyway check out jcase one click root thread in the eris development section for more detailed instructions and on youtube lostelement has some great videos showing how to root the eris and flash a rom step by step. Hope this helps.
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can you still root this eris using the command terminal? or do I have to do the 1-click method? and as far as returning the phone to 100% stock, is there a RUU program that will restore everything to stock? I've seen some threads but it seems like many of the download links are getting broken for some reason?
EDIT: also, jcase's 1-click method installs Amon's recovery correct? and this file..."rootme.zip" is this like a "patch" that is applied to the current OS to provide root, whereas flashing a new custom rom will delete and replace everything but this custom rom has been writtn to provide root access already? sorry so many questions, just trying to get a handle on this before I try it and do something stupid/expensive haha
Yes there are ruu's to go back to stock. I believe you can still use the terminal but one click root is easier and it does give you amon ra recovery. Flashing rootme.zip will root your stock os and give you superuser permissions app which allows you to manage what apps are granted root access.
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And customs roms are all ready to for root. If your flashing a custom rom you don't need to flash rootme.zip.
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Does flashing custom roms change the hboot version or the radio version? Also for some reason when I do the vol-up+end when I power on it shows a screen with a red triangle with an exclamation point, is this normal until I flash the new recovery image?
Yea that's normal until you flash a new recovery and the roms don't affect the radio or hboot. They must be flashed separately. Be very careful flashing a radio. A bad radio flash is the easiest way to brick your phone.
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probably wont touch the radio or hboot, not many ppl seem to need to. as far as the RUU goes, it will re-flash the recovery and the rom back to the same as they were out-of-box correct? wondering if anybody has a link to this file, all links i've found are broken
I haven't had to use it but from what I understand its an executable file that you run on your pc while your phone is plugged in via usb. If you need it im sure someone would be able to post a fresh link or email it to you.
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thx steve for all your help so far If anybody has a link to the RUU for the official original 2.1 eris, email it to me or link in this thread, also wondering if theres a link to the official 2.1 ROM (the non-root version and not the leak versions, the "official" OTA is what I mean.) In case something bad happens with a ROM I install that i have the original to flash, thay way I can keep Amon's recovery on the phone instead of using the RUU, personally having a hard time finding it. seems liek all the stock roms are labeled PB00IMG?
After you root, in amonra you can do a nandroid backup, which will completely back up everything on your phone to your sd card. If you don't like a rom or are having problems you can just recover your backup and your phone will be as it was when you made the backup. I keep nandroids of a few different roms and just switch between them sometimes.
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So is there any advantage at all to being rooted on the stock rom? That's where I am now. I will probably stay there for a while until I decide what ROM I want to try. I installed an overclocking widget from the marketplace just to try it out, but from the sounds of this thread, its a waste of time with the stock rom.
Rooted on a stock Rom sucks. Battery life compared to a froyo based Rom is exponentially better imo. Nonsensikal vanilla v7 was the Rom of choice but I'm back to stock because I have to send the phone back to VZW
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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It's really not that difficult one click Eris root run rootme.zip download and extract the Rom of your choice. Run amon ras recovery nandroid backup wipe flash new Rom and voila. Easy as pie.
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I did the one click Eris root already, and just applied the rootme.zip. So installing a new rom would mean copying it to the root of the SD card, rebooting and holding down the volume key and then picking that new zip file, correct? I don't know what that amon ras recovery thingy is. Is that part of rom installation, or something that I need to acquire separately?
You need to copy the Rom to your SD card and use estrongs file explorer download from market and long press on the .zip file it will pull up a menu that gives you some options. Extract from the .zip file and hit ok no new path is needed. Now that yuu have the file on your SD card reboot and go to recovery nandroid backup then wipe then flash from zip. After it unpacked and loads then it will prompt you to reboot hit okay and let it do its thing. I'm going to end all this with saying double check the forums for how tos and I'm not responsible for a bricked phone do this at your own risk but have fun itsreally not that difficult
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I'm not responsible for a bricked phone
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Yep, I realize that. You know that you don't actually have to answer my questions right? If I ask more noob questions, know that I am not expecting you personally to answer them.
I'm at work and all of my equipment I maintain is working so I'm killing sometime
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So I've was running team whiskeys bionic v 1.3 rom but after noticing some lag I decided to start from scratch and reinstall it. I disabled voodoo and flashed stock rom with Odin. Everything went well. Now here's my problem, I put my phone into recovery so that I can root it. But when I click "reinstall packages" I'm taken to the "clockwork recovery menu" (even though rommanager isnt installed). I try to install the the update.zip file from there (it works) but when my phone reboots, the super user app isn't installed and my phone still isn't rooted. Please help.
Are you going to try and flash a new rom or are you going to just root your phone and stick with the stock rom
Rom manager creates a update.zip file on your sd card that is the cw recovery update.zip If you want to root your phone using the update.zip method you have to delete the cw recovery update.zip file 1st
If you are going to flash a new rom then you don't have to root your phone just flash a new rom thru cw recovery and all the roms come rooted already
It is my understanding that the update.zip isn't a full root. Not sure how that works out...
Here is what i do. After u load the update.zip use the 3 button method to load whichever TW rom u want to use (I have bionix 1.3.1 and love it). This will give u full root access. This is what I do every time I load a new rom.
U should consider hitting up the TW crew on their IRC. They are great with help.
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If you need more help them pm me and I will help you some more
yes i want to flsh other roms. and i want to root it like i did the first time i got the phone becuase when i downloaded rom manager after flashing odin and tried to do a anadroid backup, a message appeared saying the i don't have superuser permission and that i needed to root my phone first. how do i delete the cw recovery update.zip file?
Here, easiest root ever:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739300
Follow the steps and off you go...
Hey guys thanks for ur help! Phones is now rooted and running bionix v 1.3.1 without problems. So basically all I did was a hard reset after flashing stock odin and then I just formatted the internal sd card which deleted all traces of ce recovery. Yes.it deleted everything else but I wanted to start from scratch anyways.
lOL MAYBE fixing permissions and installin root (superuser option in advance menu of recovery) form clockwork recovery WAS A EASIER OPTION ? but hey u got it anyway
I don't know if this is exactly the same issue you or not, but I did flash to stock rom (KB1), and now unable to root myself. I've used the superoneclick and still nothing happens. Does anyone have a solution for this?
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I don't know if this is exactly the same issue you or not, but I did flash to stock rom (KB1), and now unable to root myself. I've used the superoneclick and still nothing happens. Does anyone have a solution for this?
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Did u make sure you had usb debugging checked?
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Yep I sure did, still wouldn't work. I'm kinda scared to try a different one, i dont want to have to spend 150 dollars to get a new phone.
What exactly happens when you try to root with superoneclick?
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It goes through the norm and completes like norm, but when I look for superuser its not there
Well the way I got it to work was after flashing odin, I just formatted the phones internal sd card. After that I just placed the update.zip file into the sd card rebooted into stock recovery and installed the file.
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Hey All,
I'm new here but I've been reading threads. I've had and OG droid up till now and was running CM 6.1.1.
I've rooted my fascinate using SuperOneClick and I was able to make a backup once using clockwork mod right after I pushed it to the phone with ODIN but since then it comes up with the stock recovery. I tried to use and update zip to push CWM but that errors out and I have to do a battery pull.
I wanted to post in the threads where I got the tar and zip files but can't since i don't have 10 posts.
All of that said does anyone have a link to a permanent CWM either as a tar or zip. Or am I not understanding how to do this with a samsung phone.
Thanks!
Joe
After you flash clockwork you have to flash either a new kernel or a new rom or recovery will reset to stock.
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The stock kernel reflashes the recovery every boot, so after you enter CW you must flash a new kernel to keep it.
Correct
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Ah...
Ah.. I will look around for custom kernels that work with the stock rom as I find it to be ok, when using ADW launcher...
Thanks!
This thread might have something that will work for you. I haven't used it, but it sounds like what you are looking for.
Looks promising
I will check this out tonight when I am back at my PC.
Thanks!
Joe
Hi everyone,
I just installed Neutrino 2.9 following the main thread instructions and so replacing Clockworkmod Recovery with Romracer Recovery as suggested.
Everything is working fine except I lost most of the Rom Manager functionalities because it require Clockworkmod Recovery installed.
Now I was wondering if I can go back to Clockworkmod and keep Neutrino ROM installed.
Also, will the OTA Update have issues if it does not find Romracer?
Thanks and very good job to anyone is developing these custom ROMs.
Max
You should be able to install ROM Manager's recovery, then flash RomRacer's. That should trick ROM Manager into thinking its recovery is in place, thus giving you back its functionality.
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You should be able to install ROM Manager's recovery, then flash RomRacer's. That should trick ROM Manager into thinking its recovery is in place, thus giving you back its functionality.
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Thanks MJ
I actually did it and it worked, I flashed CWM Recovery and then reinstalled RomRacer's again using Rom Manager.
Now Rom Manager shows that I have CWM installed while I don't anymore but at least it released almost all functionalities (except update check).
Bye,
Max
well, I dont have any issues, I have CWM Touch, so I dont give a chainsaw why you have to get only RRRecovery
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....... I dont give a chainsaw why you have to get only RRRecovery
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It is actually strongly suggested by installation guidelines.
Anyway I had to go back to stable CM7.2 because my Atrix started to freeze (or turn off) and to get it back on I have to try several time to remove battery and put it back while holding the button power on.
With CM7.2 it happens less frequently than with Neutrino, of course I can't really say that this is the reason but I need my phone and I had to do something.