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I mean that in more than one way. First, the benefit of having a PDA is that you are more efficient. The PDA helps organize your life so that one is more productive.
I have been thinking about this, but I am actually LESS productive using my PDA. I have found that I spend too much time reading threads, learning how to write SDconfigs, flashing, etc.
However, I am hoping that with the release of the new radio, we might be do a little less flashing these days. Either way, I know that we are a niche market. Iphone users would gasp when they see how much time we spend tweaking our phones.
In conclusion, I guess it IS the ability to do whatever I want to my phone that makes me choose a pocket pc. I am just ranting because I realize how much time a lot of us spend tweaking our phones. I think we all have a little obsession.
*I thought about this post b/c my friend with an IPhone said, "what the hell do you keep on doing to your phone" when he saw me flash my phone a couple of times.
Exactly, I spent several hours trying to save a few minutes in the flashing process, in the end I'm just glad I know "how to" do the stuff.
He would be flashing like crazy too if cool stuff starting coming out for the iPhone frequently, which it doesn't.
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He would be flashing like crazy too if cool stuff starting coming out for the iPhone frequently, which it doesn't.
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Word, but come June, game is on for them. They will get push email service from microsoft's exchange servers....and whatever other programs come out from the SDK
lol. i have been thinking the same thing. i spend 3/4 of my day at work read, writing, hacking, flashing, ect. i was thinking of getting a blackberry just so i could get back to work. i'm afraid i am going to loose my job. lol.
This is all by choice, of course.
I would bet that 75%+ of all Titan users out there dont even know XDA Developers or PPCGeeks exist... much less have any iota that their phones are upgradeable with new ROM's, etc.
The average dumbphone phone user doesnt even know that manufacturers occassionally update the firmware of their phones from time to time (they probably dont even know what firmware is).
Smartphone users are generally a bit more technologically savvy, but even then, the percentage of us who tinker with our phones is by far in the minority.
Good point rajuabju. My name is Mike, and I'm a flashaholic.
Yeah it is pretty sad when you start asking your friends to flash their phones because they are running stock roms.
^^^^^codyppc Thats funny, but not really..... lol I get paid to SIT at work and wait for **** to break..... I don't mind now, cuz this dam phone keeps me so busy I have to tell my manager to wait a bit till I flash my phone again... LOL
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Yeah it is pretty sad when you start asking your friends to flash their phones because they are running stock roms.
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HOLY Fawk. I did that for one of my friends. He was running 2.09, so I was like what are you doing? Granted, I flashed him 2.17, but that rom is stable enough for him. I didn't want to hassle with flashing a custom rom for him, in case he went to sprint or what not.
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Yeah it is pretty sad when you start asking your friends to flash their phones because they are running stock roms.
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I've had to hold myself back when seeing people with Moguls in public. I really just want to tell them about all they're missing, but some people just aren't phone junkies.
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Word, but come June, game is on for them. They will get push email service from microsoft's exchange servers....and whatever other programs come out from the SDK
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LOL, blogged about this subject. I may have me a new iPhone in June.
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ABSOLUTELY.
This girl I know was going on and on and on about how totally awesome her Sprint Mogul was.
I pulled out my XV6800.
(a) She liked my cool blue color
(b) She doesnt understand how to load programs like Google Maps. I showed her and she was in shock.
(c) She thinks Rev 0 is just as good as Rev A because "its not like I watch porn like you do"
(d) She didnt know what Office Mobile was
I just had to walk away and shake my head.
But did you get her number in case you need to come by later and help her with firmware upgrades.
Yeah man yeah man......YEAH!!!!! I spend way too much time tweaking my phone. I remember I had one week where I changed roms 4 times!!! the first 2 times I reinstalled all my apps and setup my exchange server. I am much more organized with my PDA. But in many ways I am less productive...maybe less RE-Productive if you ask my wife!!1
Wow these stories are all to familiar. I get it from my wife constantly.
I'm actually a TMO/VZW/SN dealer. I've gotten 1 person to ditch their TMO Wing (and break their contract) and sign up for VZW, sold 2 XV6800's and a Mogul, all on the premise of being able to use the gps + rev A on the Titan.
I'm currently pondering buying a HTC Hero.
My question is though:
Would you still buy it right now or would you wait for the next android phone HTC is releasing (in the coming 2-3 months).
I'm currently torn between buying an Hero or waiting, I've read a bit about the HTC Dragon/Zoom 2 because it has a higher resolution, but the current specs state it has a 4.2 inch screen.
Which is way too large for me.
So, any current HTC Hero owners care to state their personal opinion on the matter?
Thanks
Would still buy it, love the design, and i have had it for over a month and been using it all the time .. It's the best mobile i ever bought!
Since a lot of android phones are coming out I would wait.
But if you are looking for a small and powerful device instead of a big smartphone then it's the right choice, in my opinion.
If you wait, you will always be waiting. The market moves so fast that there is almost a new device coming in 2-4 months that may or may not be better than what is out.
You can always Ebay it and buy another one if you want a newer phone.
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If you wait, you will always be waiting. The market moves so fast that there is almost a new device coming in 2-4 months that may or may not be better than what is out.
You can always Ebay it and buy another one if you want a newer phone.
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Exactly.
I will be looking at the X3 when it is out, I was so keen on it I thought about waiting.
The hero is a great phone, bugs have been fixed and the Rom cookers are just getting going with it. Get the hero, enjoy it for a few months, suff it on ebay if you want a change and get something new in the spring- thats what I'm doing.
have it since it came out and the only thing i would change is the color, black or brown instead of white. nothing on the market beats it so yes, if i was buying now, i would buy Hero. HD2 brings great promises for future phones, but it's WinMo, so it's just a promise of Android to come with that hardware.
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have it since it came out and the only thing i would change is the color, black or brown instead of white. nothing on the market beats it so yes, if i was buying now, i would buy Hero. HD2 brings great promises for future phones, but it's WinMo, so it's just a promise of Android to come with that hardware.
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Why are you dissapointed with the white phone? Doesent it have some "extra" function that the brown and black doesent have? In my opinion it looks good..
would buy it again. the hardware is very decent, performancewise, featurewise & haptic-wise (a.k.a. it performs well, has all the nice sensors you could need and the look&feel is great also). the software has already been modded extensivly, and since the kernel sources are out since last week the real good stuff is still to come... if you wait then you will have to wait until the new device is released, then till it is rooted, then till someone cooks a decent rom, then for the kernel sources, then for someone to actually use the kernelsources... if you're not into doing this as the first person in the world then get an "old" (as in 'a few months on the market') device.
and just get the fact, you will never be up-to-date in the it business...
if you must go android, go hero.
if i had my time again, i'd go iphone...it's too 'early days' for android....
Buy the phone, it's really nice and it's always developing cos of the apps. I am happy with my phoen had it 3 weeks now and it will last well.
Hero 2 will be a while yet and that will be worth getting if HTC improve on this one and not stay still.
Get it, you won't be regretting it.
I would definitely buy it again.
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if you must go android, go hero.
if i had my time again, i'd go iphone...it's too 'early days' for android....
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Nooooooooooooooo!!!
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You can always Ebay it and buy another one if you want a newer phone.
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I totally agree.
I came from winmo on a HD and now I won't touch winmo, although if M$ ever get their arse into gear and bring out winmo7 I will take look but it would have to have some killer features to lure me away from android.
Put simply Android is awesome, took me a few days to get out of my corrupt winmo mentality and get used to Android. The Hero is real nice , personally I could do with a bigger screen but if you don't need a bigger screen get that Hero bought now!
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Why are you dissapointed with the white phone? Doesent it have some "extra" function that the brown and black doesent have? In my opinion it looks good..
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i'm not disappointed, i just think black and brown look a lot better. When i bought it i didn't have a choice, now there is. Also, i like the soft rubbery feel of the black one, teflon is nice but nothing really special. The soft black one is great.
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if you must go android, go hero.
if i had my time again, i'd go iphone...it's too 'early days' for android....
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iphone is good if you like apple choosing what apps you can and cannot have and at&t coverage is far from stelar...
not trying to start a war but those are a couple of the many reasons why i like my i wouldn't buy an iphone and bought the hero
Hi,
I agree with other posters, that if you wait, you'll always be waiting. The HTC Dragon looks like it may be interesting but by the time it's in your hand there'll be a 1.5Mhz phone out.
After years with UIQ and WinMo, the Hero is the best phone I've had. Sure the screen is smaller than on the HD but it's a proper, capacitive touch screen. Also no stylus.
Also the Hero feels more "connected". Even with the power and functionality of the HD, I never felt truly mobile with it. With the Hero I feel much more able to update my blog, my facebook, twitter etc. This may be due to the lack of a stylus but it also seems far quicker connected to t'internet.
Just my half shilling.
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rdgut said:
I'm currently pondering buying a HTC Hero.
My question is though:
Would you still buy it right now or would you wait for the next android phone HTC is releasing (in the coming 2-3 months).
I'm currently torn between buying an Hero or waiting, I've read a bit about the HTC Dragon/Zoom 2 because it has a higher resolution, but the current specs state it has a 4.2 inch screen.
Which is way too large for me.
So, any current HTC Hero owners care to state their personal opinion on the matter?
Thanks
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I buy my Hero, 2 weeks after it was released. I'm still new with android, ut i like'it i love'it. Usualy i get verry fast boored by a phone, i must say that i have'it for 3 months allready and it will last long for sure. In the place where i work i got wi fi, and i make a chalenge with my husband( He has a blackstone) wich one is faster. . I won!( Then our colegs start to cal us the htc family ) Besides allways u got something on the market for your phone, and think about, is an open source for development . So go for it!Just do it!
Go on buy it!!!
I would buy it again and again...
I was going to wait to see what is going to be coming out soon... but then I thought... why? If something new comes out - it's only a matter of time (usually 2-3 months) before something newer will be released.
You can't get better than the Hero right now. I've had HTC phones for a few years now and they have all been good.
Android is awesome!
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I had a very good working HTC Kaiser with WM6.1. I used the ported Android which ran slow. But the experience I had with the ported Android, made me decide to buy the Hero.
You are Dutch, as I am, so why don't you have a look at Marktplaats? I bought mine there, too. Just ask them for their receipt they received when they bought it.
When you want more info, send me a private message.
as for a question: would I buy it again... YES.
as for a question: is it too early for android... YES
To be honest, I love it. WM is crap and we all know it. And for some people who don't want an I-phone, this is an alternative.
I have some weird principles... I haven't bought Nokia since 1994 - i know everybody had one, but I loved my Ericsson, i have never bought a BMW - I know it handles great and sometimes when I want to have some fun I borrow one from my friends, but generally i don't like it, I drive Audi, I will never buy a shirt that says D&G in your chest because it's just plain stupid, I prefer my clothes to be quality products but not to show off to everybody... and then again I have an I-pod because there is just no alternative...
And when it comes to phones I like to try something else than I-phone and Hero is the one to try... Gadget of the Year by "T3", Gadget of the Year by "Stuff"... I think we have a good phone in our hands.
And the fact that it is too early for Android... yes it is, but is it not wonderful to be a part of an evolution??? I think it is just amazing.
well first of all this phone was released in europe and it had the issues of freezing and text slow down. then released in the us with THE SAME PROBLEMS.
and where is the support? customer care doesnt have anything to say but search forums while they are on the phone with u!
i am tired of not being able to use my phone in important situations and restarting it everyday!
doesnt this sound familiar?? xbox 360 red ring of death!!!!!
what happened to them. they got sued by the customers!!!!!
Try some custom ROMs
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Try some custom ROMs
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no disrespect to the custom rom makers but i havent found one theat looks as good as stock with cht
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no disrespect to the custom rom makers but i havent found one theat looks as good as stock with cht
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Artemis room is as stock as it gets with better features
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Artemis room is as stock as it gets with better features
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honestly dont u think its wrong that a person has to change the stock firmware to have it work. thats my problem in the first place! doesnt anyone feel cheated besides me??
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honestly dont u think its wrong that a person has to change the stock firmware to have it work. thats my problem in the first place! doesnt anyone feel cheated besides me??
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Yeah its kinda the reason we're all here
Mine's always worked without problems.
No phone is completely satisfying, just try SPB Mobile shell with some custom skins, it's nicer then WinMo layout and is easier adjustable widgets etc.
Regarding restarting, I don't know what your problems are, I don't have any atm
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no disrespect to the custom rom makers but i havent found one theat looks as good as stock with cht
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Miri and dutty ROMs are stock like. PM me for a link ^^
I was very happy with my stock rom for months.... however after flashing I cannot deny the advantages of a custom rom.....
as for htc releasing a phone that "doesn't work" twice..... that's crazy talk, find me a product that's released completely bug free.....
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I was very happy with my stock rom for months.... however after flashing I cannot deny the advantages of a custom rom.....
as for htc releasing a phone that "doesn't work" twice..... that's crazy talk, find me a product that's released completely bug free.....
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Ok just as a for instance .....
Since this almost sounds like a "Hate on the HD2" thread, lets put that in perspective, the HD2 is the first of it's breed, never been a phone like it hardware wise ...
BUT Iphone OS4 was released, and I am going to post a sample, not all but enough of the BUGS in it, now these are just software bugs, and just a sample, of Confirmed BUGS ...
Code:
Installation
Installation issues on Windows machines (PCWorld)
Networking
Issues joining WPA2 protected networks (PCWorld)
Messages
Screen scrolls back and forth without user input during SMS/MMS sending
Keyboard covers portion of message body sometimes covering text while typing (especially after attaching an image)
Occasional failure to display navigation header, requires reboot to restore
Mail
Keyboard sometimes covers text while typing
In Gmail accounts, mail is archived and not deleted. No way to change to deletion instead
Sync
- backup fails in iTunes, saying iPhone has refused the request
Appearance
- Setting custom wallpapers can occasionally fail
iTunes
- Occassional failure to detect cellular network to launch store
Camera
-Considerable lag at launch
NOW this is the 4th version of this OS , on the pretty much the same hardware, and it still has bugs, where WinMo has to deal with thousands of diff hardware designs.
So , S??t happens. WinMo is not perfect, HTC is not perfect, Apple is not Perfect, Google is not perfect ...
BUT at least with WinMo you have Choices that you can try and decide what works best for you ...
ha ha! I asked for one that's bug FREE not infested....
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I was very happy with my stock rom for months.... however after flashing I cannot deny the advantages of a custom rom.....
as for htc releasing a phone that "doesn't work" twice..... that's crazy talk, find me a product that's released completely bug free.....
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honestly the bugs that are in the iphone arent as bad as these.
cmon sms freezes my phone constantly and im a heavy texter. i know people are gonna hate me for this but iphone got the job done. i never had to restart everyday or every week.
name any other phone that had a release twice then which of them didnt try to fix the problems????
IPHONE HAS SOFTWARE UPDATES CONSTANTLY WHERE IS OURS.??.. 1-2 A YEAR REALLY?????
htc gave up
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honestly the bugs that are in the iphone arent as bad as these.
cmon sms freezes my phone constantly and im a heavy texter. i know people are gonna hate me for this but iphone got the job done. i never had to restart everyday or every week.
name any other phone that had a release twice then which of them didnt try to fix the problems????
IPHONE HAS SOFTWARE UPDATES CONSTANTLY WHERE IS OURS.??.. 1-2 A YEAR REALLY?????
htc gave up
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Not gonna defend HTC because on stuff like this they suck , but they do make more than one model of phone, on more than one hardware platform , running more than one OS, **** happens ..
The only thing I can tell you , if you do not want to use the fixes in this community, such as patches and custom ROMs, and you are not happy with the HD2, go get you a bug free phone, Iphone, or whatever and be happy...
There are lots of people that would be happy to buy your HD2 from you I am sure ...
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honestly the bugs that are in the iphone arent as bad as these.
cmon sms freezes my phone constantly and im a heavy texter. i know people are gonna hate me for this but iphone got the job done. i never had to restart everyday or every week.
name any other phone that had a release twice then which of them didnt try to fix the problems????
IPHONE HAS SOFTWARE UPDATES CONSTANTLY WHERE IS OURS.??.. 1-2 A YEAR REALLY?????
htc gave up
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Who buys a phone running Windows Mobile anyways.. You want to blame someone, blame T-mobile for picking such a ****ty device to be on their line up.. I was a very loyal T-mobile customer until I realized that they weren't trying to be innovative at all with their phones any more.. bringing us the HD2 with Windows.. mytouch slide with a 600mhz processor.. garminphone with 1.6 Android.. seriously..
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Who buys a phone running Windows Mobile anyways.. You want to blame someone, blame T-mobile for picking such a ****ty device to be on their line up.. I was a very loyal T-mobile customer until I realized that they weren't trying to be innovative at all with their phones any more.. bringing us the HD2 with Windows.. mytouch slide with a 600mhz processor.. garminphone with 1.6 Android.. seriously..
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The why the hell are you posting in a section for a primarily Windows mobile phone???, the hardware in this device smokes just about anything out there, so unless you are just trying to start a flame war, you are posting in the wrong section ...
chrisizzle492 said:
honestly the bugs that are in the iphone arent as bad as these.
cmon sms freezes my phone constantly and im a heavy texter. i know people are gonna hate me for this but iphone got the job done. i never had to restart everyday or every week.
name any other phone that had a release twice then which of them didnt try to fix the problems????
IPHONE HAS SOFTWARE UPDATES CONSTANTLY WHERE IS OURS.??.. 1-2 A YEAR REALLY?????
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sms has never caused my phone to freeze and I certainly do not have to restart my phone everyday....
iphones may well get regular updates but that's just as much for apples benefit as it is for the benefit of the user.
theyve only just realized that their algorithm used to display signal strength isn't worth ****..... how many years has the iphone been out....
Ok guys Let it go long enough. No one is perfect and that includes HTC and MS.
I am closing this thread and no true answer will ever be determined and this will turn into a flame war.
Has anyone thought about porting the new iphone os to the leo?
is it at all possible?
just a thought?
No and no.
You can install an Android build that looks similar enough if you'd like. Look for MIUI builds in the Android section.
Would you really want to? iOS is getting a bit like Symbian,Outdated,Anyway apple put so much stuff into there firmware to stop people hacking into it,it near impossible so no
Why?......
I'd only want it for the games, but android is growing.
It would be good to have another games/apps platform but I would feel dirty allowing iOS on my device. And I dont think I could ever forgive myself for abusing my beloved HD2 like that.
PS. @OP dude at least use search before posting, or even look at the "similar threads" that pops up when writing your title, This has been discussed before on many occasions, if you want to discuss it further reply in those topics.
I'd rather take it over my face.
No no no.
HTC HD2 has been created to kill iPhone and I just can't imagine it running iOS. I Don't mind seeing Symbian or whatever else (Windows 95) but not iOS!
HD2 is an amazing device worth every penny I paid for it and I would never ever want to hurt it with iOS
When people at college say to me 'Why did you not just get an iPhone?' I get the feeling to punch them
+1
I think running IOS on HD2 is a regress
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No no no.
HTC HD2 has been created to kill iPhone and I just can't imagine it running iOS. I Don't mind seeing Symbian or whatever else (Windows 95) but not iOS!
HD2 is an amazing device worth every penny I paid for it and I would never ever want to hurt it with iOS
When people at college say to me 'Why did you not just get an iPhone?' I get the feeling to punch them
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I'd rather take it over my face.
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LOL!!
oh yeah...
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!
Its the apps and games. seems like the winmo apps are weak and boring. I mean there are a few cool ones but not even close to as many. Don't get me wrong, I love my phone its the best hardware $$ can buy right! I have just been getting bored with the apps I have and the ones available.
thanks for all the feedback.
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Its the apps and games. seems like the winmo apps are weak and boring. I mean there are a few cool ones but not even close to as many. Don't get me wrong, I love my phone its the best hardware $$ can buy right! I have just been getting bored with the apps I have and the ones available.
thanks for all the feedback.
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Then install Android, duh!
Lets not kid ourselves on the 7.8 update folks, as its not going to offer anything more than resizing the tiles.
Now that we have been abandoned, we should demand that HTC/microsoft release the source and unlock the bootloaders so we can flash an OS of our choosing.
I believe that ICS would run smoothly on our radars. If it could be done with HD2, it can be done with the radar.
What do you folks think?
Does ics run smoothly on hd2?
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From what I get on their site, they have several ics roms that are working well. Having a choice is always nice.
I support the OP !!
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I support the OP !!
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i'm sorry for the offtopic, but what that |OP| stands for?
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i'm sorry for the offtopic, but what that |OP| stands for?
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OP means 'original poster' So here it means i support this guy "ibnturab" as he is the OP
Well, we already have a EOL device at the 6 month Mark, give or take. Microsoft said they didn't want fragmentation like android, but here it comes already. My radar is put back in the box and I'm back to android for functionality. My radar is the LAST WP product I will buy. Look at the poor bastards who jumped on the Lumia 900 just a couple months ago. I'm sorry but Microsoft had to know that all these new devices wouldn't run WP8, but they decided to snow ball their consumers instead of being open and honest.
Now Nokia has all these phones they built that I'm sure people won't buy now with the info just released. Nokia is already hanging by a thread.
End of rant....
My time is now done in Windows phone forums. Good luck guys.
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@awrnsmn, I totally agree with you. I'm seriously considering selling it. Its shame thought, I love the hardware, and the battery is the best I've seen yet in a smartphone. And the dedicated camera button is superb. But, in the end, we all want functionality so I'm likely gonna list this on ebay.
I'm considering the HTC amaze but I've read mixed things on battery. I'm also looking into the ATrix 2.
android on htc radar
I guess we have to wait and see if there is anybody clever enough to get ics running on a radar. I guess i will give it a try when its there. Not because i need it, but because it can
I know I said my time was done here but.....well anyway. What bothers me the most about all of this is Microsoft was really on to something with WP, it could of been a fantastic os to rival the big 2, but with the decisions their making they're killing already......sad because I USED to like where they were going with it.
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IMHO, after my contact is up I will be switching over to Android. *The next Nexus preferably* unless MS could come with something that will make me want to get WP8. Jelly Bean and Operation Butter literally kill my love for WP7.5. :crying: