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Hi everyone,
Just got my new 8525. No luck with it shipping with WM6 already. (I guess most of you figured that)
I have some more questions before I start messing with this. First, my current config:
HERM100 (ATT 8525)
IPL= 1.03
SPL= 1.11
When is booting from SR is says:
M 05
S 06
B 04
Radio 1.40.30.00
ROM 2.15.502.3
ROM Date 04/09/07
Protocol vs 32.73.7020.16H
I plan on using this on my ATT network and am not interested in using it anywhere other than on ATT for now so, no need to unlock SuperCID or anything like that now.
Desire: Install a BBC compliant WM6 with no BLOAT.
What I know from the Wiki and the forums:
I can install Hard-SPL and the new VPG3 Ver3 BBC Rom from VPG3. This seems to be a very stable, fast, clean ROM. Should I need to go back to bare bones stock, I read this thread and went to this site. The details are there and the step-by-step is clear and concise. I understand it and know that I can do this.
My question:
1) It says that I can revert back from HardSPL to either SPL 1.06 or 1.04 but, I have 1.11. How do I then revert back to what I have?
2) From what I understand, by reverting back to the 1.04 or 1.06, I have removed HardSPL so, in theory, I can just re-flash the OEM ROM, right? Or, is it not that simple?
3) If it is, will the OEM ROM then re-flash everything (Radio, OS, SPL, IPL, etc.)back to the OEM state prior to me mucking around with it?
4) Will my carrier be able to tell if I screwed with it?
I have done about 1 weeks worth of seaching and reading and learning before I decided to do anything. I am new to this somewhat but, I have flashed OEM ROMS before so I am comfortable. I also own an IMATE JAM that I have messed with too. The point is that I am trying to learn as much as I can on my own using existing info before bugging the community. Can never be too cautious.
I appreciate your help in advance.
Personally I would advise against it, as an 8525 owner. I've already kind of screwed mine up.
Here is what happened to mine. I installed an "official" build of wm6 on my phone after installing hardspl. The install worked fine but I found the software to be very buggy. I had to restart a lot. Then I installed a newer build. The install went ok but the software was even worse. Yesterday i tried reverting back to wm5, which i was able to do (after problems all day) but now I have all kinds of radio issues. Everything is factory on my phone except the radio version. I am going to try to send it in for warranty who knows how that will go though. If you look at the cingular forums it looks like wm6 will officially be available this month. I wouldn't risk voiding your warranty over getting a new os on your phone 2 weeks before you can officially do it. Also I might add there is not a huge difference between the 2 operating systems. comparing the 2 would be similar to comparing win95 to win 98, nothing groundbreaking
As to your questions:
I did have hardspl on my phone and was able to take it off. It took me down to 1.04. I have no clue what I had on it before, I'm assuming that may be correct though.
I haven't been able to downgrade my radio.
In theory you can reinstall the offical wm5 rom, but mine freezes at 12% when it tries to install the old radio.
While some people have had no problems, I have had a lot. From reading this board it seems hit and miss. Beware.
Thank you very much! I really just need something to run BlackBerry Connect. This, along with the elimination of the BLOAT is the only real reason I am considering this. I do appreciate your insight.
tanpimp said:
Personally I would advise against it, as an 8525 owner. I've already kind of screwed mine up.
Here is what happened to mine. I installed an "official" build of wm6 on my phone after installing hardspl. The install worked fine but I found the software to be very buggy. I had to restart a lot. Then I installed a newer build. The install went ok but the software was even worse. Yesterday i tried reverting back to wm5, which i was able to do (after problems all day) but now I have all kinds of radio issues. Everything is factory on my phone except the radio version. I am going to try to send it in for warranty who knows how that will go though. If you look at the cingular forums it looks like wm6 will officially be available this month. I wouldn't risk voiding your warranty over getting a new os on your phone 2 weeks before you can officially do it. Also I might add there is not a huge difference between the 2 operating systems. comparing the 2 would be similar to comparing win95 to win 98, nothing groundbreaking
As to your questions:
I did have hardspl on my phone and was able to take it off. It took me down to 1.04. I have no clue what I had on it before, I'm assuming that may be correct though.
I haven't been able to downgrade my radio.
In theory you can reinstall the offical wm5 rom, but mine freezes at 12% when it tries to install the old radio.
While some people have had no problems, I have had a lot. From reading this board it seems hit and miss. Beware.
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Hi Guys,
Need your advice please! Want to be absolutely sure before proceeding as do not want to 'brick' my phone!
I had a UK T-Mobile branded HD2. I installed HSPL a few months back (went through the guide on this site - thanks!), just to allow me to install the official stock ROMs from the HTC website.
I was running on the official HTC ROM 1.66 WWE up until the recent release 3.14. I installed this, but i've had some unusual problems. For instance, the Opera browser randomly closing when before it would run in the background. The same goes with email and other programs like Facebook would just randomly close. Sometimes my browser favourites would not be displayed, and also it would not fully load web pages and just sit there. I know they've made some improvements with the background processes and CPU handling, so not sure if this is what I should be expecting. However it is driving me crazy!
Now I just want to 'roll back' to the previous official HTC stock ROM 1.66 as I find this more stable and did not encounter these issues.
My bootloader screen reads as followed:
PB1100 HX-BC
SPL-1.42.HSPL XE
CotullaHSPL
In this scenario, can I simply connect my HD2 to my PC/laptop via USB and run the exe file downloaded from the HTC website and flash per their instructions? Or are there some other steps I need to take?
I've done some searching, but have not yet encountered anyone going back the other way. Most people seem to be happy on 3.14, but not me!
Also I know sometimes it will not allow you to roll back if you have a newer version installed.
Thanking you in advance!
J
the reason you had problems is because the 3.14 roms aren't compatible with hspl, or with older spls, only spl 3.x. There is no t-mo 3.14 rom yet, so your only option to get 3.14 would be goldcard.
you still have hspl installed, so just go ahead and flash what you like. USB is fine.
samsamuel said:
the reason you had problems is because the 3.14 roms aren't compatible with hspl, or with older spls, only spl 3.x. There is no t-mo 3.14 rom yet, so your only option to get 3.14 would be goldcard.
you still have hspl installed, so just go ahead and flash what you like. USB is fine.
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Thank you very much for your advice! I have reflashed back as you suggested via USB and ActiveSync and i'm just in the process of setting everything back up. All looks normal so far...
Thanks again!
samsamuel said:
the reason you had problems is because the 3.14 roms aren't compatible with hspl, or with older spls, only spl 3.x. There is no t-mo 3.14 rom yet, so your only option to get 3.14 would be goldcard.
you still have hspl installed, so just go ahead and flash what you like. USB is fine.
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I'm not saying you're wrong just a little confused:
T-Mobile HD2 MR Software (Version 3.14.531.1)
http://dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=leo2
TriniKing_CE said:
I'm not saying you're wrong just a little confused:
T-Mobile HD2 MR Software (Version 3.14.531.1)
http://dl.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=leo2
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thats for the 'tmous', , t mobile US. The Op has a t mo uk phone, which is the same as all the other regular hd2s. Only the tmous is different.
samsamuel said:
thats for the 'tmous', , t mobile US. The Op has a t mo uk phone, which is the same as all the other regular hd2s. Only the tmous is different.
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I think I understand now...
I bought an HD2 from a friend, and i found it already with HSPL 1.42.HSPL, but checking the HD2 HSPL thread i found that now there is v2.08, do i need to update to it? will i gain something that i don't have now?
I have just installed Dutty v7 ROM with the current HSPL, no problems.
(I am a 'have latest version' person, not 'if it ain't broken, don't fix it' person)
no, no real reason to change. It wont add anything. If you're happy, then leave it be.
Please help me,how can i remove SPL 3.03
I`m using Artemis v44.0 which goes with ROM 3.14....
I want to removed it and go back to 1.43.000
mrachni said:
Please help me,how can i remove SPL 3.03
I`m using Artemis v44.0 which goes with ROM 3.14....
I want to removed it and go back to 1.43.000
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Reinstall previous stock ROM.
But how? Where to find it?
I must do that from SD card if i understand?
mrachni said:
But how? Where to find it?
I must do that from SD card if i understand?
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No, you can flash it over ActiveSync.
About stock ROM; with aria ROM do you have? do you have a branded device?
SPL - 3.03 and ROM 3.14... Affecting installation for W7?
I have noticed that I have the same problem with my HD2 6.5
I have on it:
SPL-3.03.0000
ROM version - 3.14.405.2 (04666) WWE
What my main concern is however, is whether you think it's possible for me to install Windows 7 on this model or do I have to go to an older ROM and SPL version to achieve this.
Any help greatly appreciated thank you
Innvizible said:
I have noticed that I have the same problem with my HD2 6.5
I have on it:
SPL-3.03.0000
ROM version - 3.14.405.2 (04666) WWE
What my main concern is however, is whether you think it's possible for me to install Windows 7 on this model or do I have to go to an older ROM and SPL version to achieve this.
Any help greatly appreciated thank you
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Ass for I know, to be able to install WP7 ROM on your HD2 you will need HSPL. And probably you know it already, but stock ROM 3.14 isn't compatible with HSPL, so yes you need to downgrade your stock ROM before.
mrachni said:
But how? Where to find it?
I must do that from SD card if i understand?
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To get back to your original SPL, you will need to do it using SD card method. If you use Activesync method, it will only upgrade the SPL and won't downgrade.
similar problem on my HD2
Thanks for the heads up, I did as suggested before...
So..
1. I got ROM 1.66 with Radio 15.30.50 from HTC forum and installed in order to downgrade my ROM
2. After that I flashed HSPL2 and selected SPL-2.08.HSPL
(After this it showed phone was hacked successfully and after it rebooted I can't get past the hanging white screen)
3. I *ignored this* then switched off phone and got into boatloader again and ran MAGLDR112 and the RUU loaded up to 100% and booted up but again it still hangs at the white screen stopping at the htc logo. That's when I thought probably step 2 was where I had hit a problem...
4. After a couple of attempts I decided to put it back to the 1.66 I got from HTC forum so I can use phone for the meanwhile
- I have been following the threads, and a lot of people seem to suggest that the white screen is something to do with having the wrong radio version. (Do you share the same thoughts or have I gone completely wrong elsewhere in your opinion?)
- And if it is a radio issue which do you think goes best with the MAGLDR112 and LEO70-ROM
- If someone could paste a link I'd be happy to follow it up
[Starting to feel like one of those people forum heads are not fond of for not reading and understanding enough]
tazeemn said:
To get back to your original SPL, you will need to do it using SD card method. If you use Activesync method, it will only upgrade the SPL and won't downgrade.
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Not right sir, even if you install stock ROM over ActiveSync it will upgrade and also downgrade your SPL version.
Innvizible said:
Thanks for the heads up, I did as suggested before...
So..
1. I got ROM 1.66 with Radio 15.30.50 from HTC forum and installed in order to downgrade my ROM
2. After that I flashed HSPL2 and selected SPL-2.08.HSPL
(After this it showed phone was hacked successfully and after it rebooted I can't get past the hanging white screen)
3. I *ignored this* then switched off phone and got into boatloader again and ran MAGLDR112 and the RUU loaded up to 100% and booted up but again it still hangs at the white screen stopping at the htc logo. That's when I thought probably step 2 was where I had hit a problem...
4. After a couple of attempts I decided to put it back to the 1.66 I got from HTC forum so I can use phone for the meanwhile
- I have been following the threads, and a lot of people seem to suggest that the white screen is something to do with having the wrong radio version. (Do you share the same thoughts or have I gone completely wrong elsewhere in your opinion?)
- And if it is a radio issue which do you think goes best with the MAGLDR112 and LEO70-ROM
- If someone could paste a link I'd be happy to follow it up
[Starting to feel like one of those people forum heads are not fond of for not reading and understanding enough]
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Stock ROM 1.66 have radio 2.07.51 integrated; but Android builds needs minimum radio 2.08.50 so before you install Android upgrade your radio.
kurt-willems said:
Not right sir, even if you install stock ROM over ActiveSync it will upgrade and also downgrade your SPL version.
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You are right about that. I stand corrected. This was proven through my tests yesterday. In the past, with my Athena, it worked differently.
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Stock ROM 1.66 have radio 2.07.51 integrated; but Android builds needs minimum radio 2.08.50 so before you install Android upgrade your radio.
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2.07.50 also worked fine for me for WinMO 6.5 (Energy), Darkstone SuperRam 1.5 and WP7. In fact WP7 NAND & Darkstone from SD ran fine with MAGLDR112.
Updated Radio solved problem
kurt-willems said:
Stock ROM 1.66 have radio 2.07.51 integrated; but Android builds needs minimum radio 2.08.50 so before you install Android upgrade your radio.
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Worked like a charm. I put on Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14** from one of the threads and from then on I then put back SPL-2.08HSPL and then loaded MAGLDR112 and it allowed me to access bootloader and from there I loaded the DWI file for Windows 7. Everything became kinda self-explanatory after following your help... Awesome, Windows 7 rocks... Off to activate the live services...
Hello everybody,
Here is my problem:
My Hd2 had a Rom 1.44, I do not know where it came from, I bought it second-hand (my oerator is sfr). I decided to install the Rom 3.14 coming from HTC (Tx a false serial number and i has a hspl 2.08)
Everything goes well exept my memory(programs) decrease abominably (as everybody knows but as an idiot I had not inquired before).
I believed that by installing hspl3.03 that would be back to normal again! it didn't. (I even reinstalled the ROM3.14 and also tried with the spl 3.03)
I installed back the hspl 2.08 and reinstalled an old version (RUU_Leo_HTC_FRA_1.66.406.1_Radio_Signed _15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship) The problem was the same.
I try via task29 with as radio Rom 2.15.50.14. And flash with the Rom above, always similar: total report: 208,97, used: 132.21, free: 76,76.
I do not know any more what to do! Please Help !
Tx to read me, have a nice end of we.
(sorry for my english, i am french)
McAlister
enter bootloader
run hspl4
choose 3.03.hspl from teh dropdown
when phone reboots quickly enter bootloader again
run your 3.14 .exe rom install over usb.
report back.
Tx to help me,
I did it,i didn't use the exe but it used customruu and the 3.14.nbh
It's ok no ?
Even the probleme is here again total progams memory is 208.81 mo !
I also tried with the 1.42 spl and the 1.66 rom, the probleme was there too !
i also tried to install the 3.14 rom with the 1.66.000 spl, the probleme was there too !
i have no more idea !
McAlister said:
3.14 rom with the 1.66.000 spl, the probleme was there too !
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well yea, it would be, it will always be there whenever the rom is 3.14 and the spl is NOT 3.03.xxxx
I mean i have first installed the 1.66.000 spl and then i install the 3.14 rom (nbh via customruu) like i read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-826915.html
so you have 3.14 running now, and what does it say in bootloader? (please dont just guess, go and have an actual look)
Hey McAlister, make sure that when. you flashed the 3.14 ROM that it is flashing this radio too. Radio version 2.15.50.14
T-Macgnolia said:
Hey McAlister, make sure that when. you flashed the 3.14 ROM that it is flashing this radio too. Radio version 2.15.50.14
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As I understand, Stock ROM version 3.14 includes Radio 2.15.xx.xxx
Unless you flash the Custom ROM which would not include the Radio, then you have to flash radio separately
Cheers
Samsamuel --> I can't have a look now because i have installed the 1.66 rom but i remember, because i did care of it, that when i have installed the spl 3.03 before installing the rom it was the spl 3.03 after, and when i tried with the hspl 3.03 (before) it was the hslp 3.03 after too.
T-Macgnolia --> Yes the radio have changed for the 2.15.50.14 each time i tried with the exe, and, in fact, when i have used the ruucustom.exe the radio was 2.15.50.14 yet.
I am now with the 1.66 rom and with hspl 2.08 but my total memory is again 208 mo.
Tx a lot for your help.
Sure you don't have a pre release model??? Some of those come with less ram,,
That's not impossible, do you know how i can see that ?
Not sure, some have decals on the back, HT97 comes to mind,, Google it. What's top line in bootloader?
Download HSPL4 and install HSPL 2.08.
Download the last radio and update it!
The first line in bootloader is : PB81100 SS-BC
No Decals writing in the back but look at this link, the memory spec : http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd2-full-spec-list-revealed-0558921/
it's the same for me when i look in (in french) informations materielles. My brother have an Hd2 too, its total memory isn't 320 mo but 448 mo.
I am like nicolog71 here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-639818.html
ok, you arent mistaking total hardware ram and total available program ram, are you?
The hardware on a regular hd2 has 448meg ram, of which the graphics hardware takes 128meg, leaving teh system with 320meg ram, of which usually a good 120 meg or more is taken by the system running, cookies and suchlike, leaving about 200 usually for you to use. It can really easily be that you get much less than 200 meg ram free.
This all gets more confusing if you have gotten used to running cooked roms with the 576 enabled, because THEN the hardware info page shows 576MB and the system moemory app shows 448 total. You will not get this on any stock roms. Only on tweaked cooked roms, and since you have flashed back to stock roms, you will currently see hardware 448, total 320.
Perhaps your brother has a cooked rom installed?
You need to look at the hardware info page, which should show 448MB Ram, and compare that to the windows system memory page which will show 320 or so total RAM with xxMB used /XX free.
So my hd2 is a pre released hd2, you were right !
Do you know if there is a way to unlock the rest of the memory ?
Thank for all, you really help me and now i can understand my problem !
no clue, sorry, , have a read thru some of the threads started by xmoo, he knows a ton about test roms and models.
ok, tx again, i will try to buy another Hd2 or waiting for the next big screen htc phone.