No way to recover all my RAM - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everybody,
Here is my problem:
My Hd2 had a Rom 1.44, I do not know where it came from, I bought it second-hand (my oerator is sfr). I decided to install the Rom 3.14 coming from HTC (Tx a false serial number and i has a hspl 2.08)
Everything goes well exept my memory(programs) decrease abominably (as everybody knows but as an idiot I had not inquired before).
I believed that by installing hspl3.03 that would be back to normal again! it didn't. (I even reinstalled the ROM3.14 and also tried with the spl 3.03)
I installed back the hspl 2.08 and reinstalled an old version (RUU_Leo_HTC_FRA_1.66.406.1_Radio_Signed _15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship) The problem was the same.
I try via task29 with as radio Rom 2.15.50.14. And flash with the Rom above, always similar: total report: 208,97, used: 132.21, free: 76,76.
I do not know any more what to do! Please Help !
Tx to read me, have a nice end of we.
(sorry for my english, i am french)
McAlister

enter bootloader
run hspl4
choose 3.03.hspl from teh dropdown
when phone reboots quickly enter bootloader again
run your 3.14 .exe rom install over usb.
report back.

Tx to help me,
I did it,i didn't use the exe but it used customruu and the 3.14.nbh
It's ok no ?
Even the probleme is here again total progams memory is 208.81 mo !

I also tried with the 1.42 spl and the 1.66 rom, the probleme was there too !
i also tried to install the 3.14 rom with the 1.66.000 spl, the probleme was there too !
i have no more idea !

McAlister said:
3.14 rom with the 1.66.000 spl, the probleme was there too !
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well yea, it would be, it will always be there whenever the rom is 3.14 and the spl is NOT 3.03.xxxx

I mean i have first installed the 1.66.000 spl and then i install the 3.14 rom (nbh via customruu) like i read here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-826915.html

so you have 3.14 running now, and what does it say in bootloader? (please dont just guess, go and have an actual look)

Hey McAlister, make sure that when. you flashed the 3.14 ROM that it is flashing this radio too. Radio version 2.15.50.14

T-Macgnolia said:
Hey McAlister, make sure that when. you flashed the 3.14 ROM that it is flashing this radio too. Radio version 2.15.50.14
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As I understand, Stock ROM version 3.14 includes Radio 2.15.xx.xxx
Unless you flash the Custom ROM which would not include the Radio, then you have to flash radio separately
Cheers

Samsamuel --> I can't have a look now because i have installed the 1.66 rom but i remember, because i did care of it, that when i have installed the spl 3.03 before installing the rom it was the spl 3.03 after, and when i tried with the hspl 3.03 (before) it was the hslp 3.03 after too.
T-Macgnolia --> Yes the radio have changed for the 2.15.50.14 each time i tried with the exe, and, in fact, when i have used the ruucustom.exe the radio was 2.15.50.14 yet.
I am now with the 1.66 rom and with hspl 2.08 but my total memory is again 208 mo.
Tx a lot for your help.

Sure you don't have a pre release model??? Some of those come with less ram,,

That's not impossible, do you know how i can see that ?

Not sure, some have decals on the back, HT97 comes to mind,, Google it. What's top line in bootloader?

Download HSPL4 and install HSPL 2.08.
Download the last radio and update it!

The first line in bootloader is : PB81100 SS-BC
No Decals writing in the back but look at this link, the memory spec : http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd2-full-spec-list-revealed-0558921/
it's the same for me when i look in (in french) informations materielles. My brother have an Hd2 too, its total memory isn't 320 mo but 448 mo.

I am like nicolog71 here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-639818.html

ok, you arent mistaking total hardware ram and total available program ram, are you?
The hardware on a regular hd2 has 448meg ram, of which the graphics hardware takes 128meg, leaving teh system with 320meg ram, of which usually a good 120 meg or more is taken by the system running, cookies and suchlike, leaving about 200 usually for you to use. It can really easily be that you get much less than 200 meg ram free.
This all gets more confusing if you have gotten used to running cooked roms with the 576 enabled, because THEN the hardware info page shows 576MB and the system moemory app shows 448 total. You will not get this on any stock roms. Only on tweaked cooked roms, and since you have flashed back to stock roms, you will currently see hardware 448, total 320.
Perhaps your brother has a cooked rom installed?
You need to look at the hardware info page, which should show 448MB Ram, and compare that to the windows system memory page which will show 320 or so total RAM with xxMB used /XX free.

So my hd2 is a pre released hd2, you were right !
Do you know if there is a way to unlock the rest of the memory ?
Thank for all, you really help me and now i can understand my problem !

no clue, sorry, , have a read thru some of the threads started by xmoo, he knows a ton about test roms and models.

ok, tx again, i will try to buy another Hd2 or waiting for the next big screen htc phone.

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[Q] Very Low memory on Hd2

Hi,
I'm a new bee with it comes to hd2 (I just bought one). WEll the language of the rom was not english so I used HSPL and downloaded the stock rom 3.14 WWE. Now when the HD2 boots, I only see 176.37MB (under storage in memory). And nothing runs ok except sense. How can get all the memory of the hd2 back?
Thanks
thats usual. i have ~180mb for total storage.
im using a stock 1.66 and i have 180.60mb for total storage.
i think he is refering to the bug that if you run the 3.14 rom with 2.08.hspl you lose some memory. it is mentioned in one of the 3.14 rom threads, maybe the others too by now.
quote from post 1 in THIS thread
This ROM contains SPL 3.03 and drivers 3.14 which are working INCORRECTLY with 2.08 HSPL. If you flash this ROM you will get only 70-80mb free RAM after Hard Reset.
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ok then I need to put spl back to the phone. Then how can I install WWE. The phone is from netherlands and came with dutch version of WM 6.5. I need to install WWE as I don't know Dutch.

new spl

Hi i had my hd2 repaired by htc now the spl is spl3.03.0000
so the question is which hspl do i put on as i really am not sure thanks
anubis1126 said:
Hi i had my hd2 repaired by htc now the spl is spl3.03.0000
so the question is which hspl do i put on as i really am not sure thanks
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There is no HSPL version present yet who is compatible with SPL 3.03
We need to wait sir
Ow Ps, do you have a Branded UK Orange device?
no its unbranded
Any updates on hspl for this yet
if its unbranded just flash a stock 1.66 to downgrade the spl then hspl as before.
Hi. I am on 3.14, i would need to downgrade too...
would this file i found online be good? :
RUU_Leo_HTC_NLD_1.66.404.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.0 ΒΆ
7U_2.06.51.07_Ship
Its 1.66.404.1 but not 1.66.0000.. is this a problem?
I need to find a stock rom on NLD (dutch) to downgrade before putting my HSPL... Why is it so hard to find an original file from factory, say 1.42 in everylanguage?
And what is the difference by downgrading to 1.42 or 1.66?
Thank you kind sirs
1.66.404.1 is rom version,,, 1.66.0000 is the spl version.
yes that rom should be fine assuming you have an unbranded hd2. doesn't matter which you downgrade to, they both will allow hspl.
its not at all difficult to find them.
look for "leo official roms" thread, in rom development section, and in there, first post first link takes you to most of the roms.
Samsamuel, thx a lot for that positive answer HD2 is indeed unbranded.
makes me feel better, been in despair with my dutch HD2...
So its finally clearer to me, 0000 is SPL and XXX is rom version
But to Downgrade, a non SPL version is ok then?
But to install HSPL, i need an SPL version?
And one last thing, can i install all of this stuff without booting from SDmini?
Those were the old procedures, no?
Thx!
all stock roms come with a version of spl, but it doesn't say which spl in the filename.
1.43 and 1.48 roms come with spl 1.42.0000
1.66 and 1.72 roms have spl 1.66.0000
3.14 comes with spl 3.03.0000 and hspl doesn't work with it.
the numbers you see in the filename are rom (1.66.404.1) and radio (2.06.51.07) versions, not spl.
when you look in bootloader at spl, it will always end either .0000 or .hspl where 0000 is stock.
it doesn't matter which spl you have, so long as it isn't spl 3.03 then hspl will work and allow you to flash roms andradios.
Thx! Even clearer now
Unfortunately, i am currently on 3.14.. i tried installing a lower version ROM (1.66, the link i put earlier) but it didnt work..
How can i downgrade to those versions who enable me to use HSPL? Once u have a higher rom, it detects lower and u cant downgrade?
Is the only method to flash with SDcard?
zewill said:
i tried installing a lower version ROM (1.66, the link i put earlier) but it didnt work..
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Then that isn't your stock rom. (Although you didnt say why it didnt work, , ) if its teh right rom it will work
I think i managed to install my English pack allright!
I installed the earliest official pack from HTC, rom 1.48
Then installed HSPL3, then my official HTC WWE 3.14 rom!
Confirmed, it works!!!
Again, Thank you for your time and your explanations of roms!
See you around on the forums, mate!
dont smile too soon, if you flashed a 3.14 rom whilst spl is installed then you will have memory and stability issues.
Go to
settings menu all settings system memory, what does it show for free program memory? around 50meg? should be about 140.
Couldnt really find "memory settings" but what if ound was this:
Total storage: 176 mb
Used storage 56
Free storage 119 mb
TOtal programm 208 MB
Used program 163 mb
free programm 45 mb
NO SD CARD (must buy one tomorrow lol)
So, as u said, its around 40 mb.. What should have i done better?
Also, what is the difference in the SPL?
I mean, from factory settings, i upgraded to 3.14.
With HSPL, i upgraded to 3.14
What difference does it make, isnt it the same? Doesnt 3.03 spl install itself?
Anyways, will be glad to hear your comments on my new problem then haha
not through usb flash. If hspl is installed it remains installed.
3.14 roms must have spl 3.03.0000
Before the 3.14 roms it didnt matter, all roms worked on any version spl, but the 3.14 roms dont.
You should have removed hspl first, (so that your spl ends .0000) then flashed the 3.14 rom, , this allows it to upgrade spl to 3.03.0000
Hhm, i really dont wanna brick my HD2 with all those stability issues.. is there a risk if i leave it like that?
Anyways, i'll restart the instalations then. I checked on bootloader, currently this is what i have: SPL-2.08 HSPL 8G XE
How should i proceed? Should i flash from SD card a 3.14 directly WWE? I have nothing yet on my HD2, (using 3.14 WWE official rom from HTC website) so i dont really care about flashing, reinstalling, hard resets
Just give me advice on how to proceed to have the perfect installation
Is a flash from SD card obligatory? But that would get rid of HSPL, no? and if i get rid of HSPL, my HD2 is going to go back to its original language (DUTCH), right? I want to avoid putting my HD2 in that language...
Say, if i SDFLASH the latest rom WWE (even though my HD2 previously to HSPL only accepted NLD (hence dutch) roms), will it work?
Sorry for taking up so much of ur time, but ur comments are so helpful
connect to usb, put the phone in bootloader.
then
run hspl2
choose 1.66.0000
when phone reboots, quickly hold voldown to reenter bootloader
run the 3.14.exe
Thx for the quick reply.
Why would i use HSPL 2 now, i was using the HSPL 3 before? Isnt it the latest most stable one tu use?
Can i still run HSPL3 and choose 1.66? (i think not actually i only had choice of 2.08)..
So can i run HSPL3 and then re run with HSPL2??? It wont have compatibility issues?
And how to install the exe while in bootloader? Is it a flash from SD Card?
What will happen if i leave my 3.14 in the 2.08 SPL? only stability issues? No risk of bricking, or long term affecting negatively the phone?
So many questions.. hope u can answer all of them..
Also, one last big question: Now that HSPL is installed, isnt it easier to simply, when i recieve my SD card, to flash a WWE official rom 3.14? wouldnt that do the trick? Or i need to go through HSPL2 for sure?
Thx again!
the .exe's are just installers, the spl/hspl inside is the same. So, the 2.08.hspl in hspl3, the actual code that gets flashed to your bootloader, is IDENTICAL to 2.08.hspl in hspl2.
But, hspl3 only has 2.08.0000 and 2.08.hspl as options, but since spl 2.08 isn't stock for your phone, if you ever needed to get back to stock, you can do that with hspl2, but not hspl3, so since the one version of spl/hspl that they both contain (2.08) is teh same, and hspl2 has extra options for a non tmous user, why use hspl3? there is no reason.
Oh, and whilst we're at it, hspl2 detects which spl you currently have and offers you the opposite (so if it finds 1.42.0000 it sets the dropdown to 1.42.hspl)
HSPL3 doesnt do this, it always offers you 2.08.0000 until you manually change it, and many a newb has just clicked OK and thinks they have installed hspl, when in fact they haven't.
Lol, i be one of the many noobs.. But in my bootloader, it says i have installed HSPL, so.. i guess its installed!
Will follow your recommendations, but just one last thing
How to remove this current HSPL3 then and restart the steps with HSPL2? You said that
"But, hspl3 only has 2.08.0000 and 2.08.hspl as options, but since spl 2.08 isn't stock for your phone, if you ever needed to get back to stock, you can do that with hspl2, but not hspl3, so since the one version of spl/hspl that they both contain (2.08) is teh same, and hspl2 has extra options for a non tmous user, why use hspl3? there is no reason"
I used HSPL3 because i read on forums thats its better to use the latest HSPL as the previous versions usually are out of date.. seems i was mistaken then... Also, i used HSPL3 because it was compatible with any 1.XX rom, and i could only downgrade as low as 1.48. Would HSPL2 be able to be installed on 1.48 official rom? I thought highest HSPL2 could work on was 1.42?
So you say that now that i have installed HSPL3, i cannot go back to stock? Im sure there would be a way, but what should i do then?
Should i just flash some stock rom from SD card, hoping it takes HSPL3 away, and restart procedure with HSPL2?
Or with USB sync i can restart the procedure, by just openiong HSPL2 without touching any rom?

[Q] memory jumps to 64 Mb (dualsim)

ahh ok, already on spl 3.03, my mistake then.
I installed the newest ROM upgrade from HTC and now the ROM shows 64 MB for the working area and the phone keeps giving the eroor that the workspace is too full. After installing the latest Artemis v42 it was solved and back to 100 something Mb. After some locks, reboots, hard resets etc I installed v42 again and now this version has the same problem only 64 Mb workspace.
I have a european HD2 with Vodafone. And I am using a dualsim adapter with a KPN sim included as well.
The SiMore software from the adapter might be the problem.
Kan anybody help me
you have hspl still installed. 3.14 roms must have spl 3.03 or you will have trouble.
the hspl/3.14/memory issue is well documented in dozens of threads.
samsamuel said:
you have hspl still installed. 3.14 roms must have spl 3.03 or you will have trouble.
the hspl/3.14/memory issue is well documented in dozens of threads.
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Thnx. is there a simple guide what to do from here. been searching finding a lot but which one. I'm the amateur I know.
if there is a stock 3.14 for your phone....
run hspl2, choose 1.66.0000
flash the 3.14 rom. usb is fine.
if you have a branded and there is no stock 3.14, thenyou need a goldcard.
if you aren't bothered for 3.14 and want to play with the non 3.14 cooked roms, just flash one. hspl is already installed.look in the rom development thread, at the top there are only 2 or three stickies, one is a list of the loads of threads that should be sticky but aren't cos they'd take up the whole front page.
a good evenings reading material.
Bootloader says: SPL-3.03.0000 XE
Ok but now what? Can anybody help me?

[Q] flash won't work

I have read a lot of threads, tried them all but still have problems. Can sombody please help me.
I updated my HD2 with the original 3.14 from HTC then my troubles started.
I started getting an error about not enough memory. After checking it the device only sees 64 Mb memeory instead of 100+ for the working area.
After this I installed the last Artemis version, problem with memory gone. Because the version kept locking up my phone and sudden reboots happend, I re-installed Artemis. Then the memory error was back.
I have now tried everything that I could find: task 29, HSPL, back to SSPL, old versions, back to original (new), flashing original via SD card.
I keep getting 2 problems:
1) memory only sees 54 Mb working area !!!
2) when I try to flash I have to start from coloured screen. Otherwise won't see the HD2 (with Async). When flash starts and percentage screen appears it won't start updating.
Anyone....?
Reduce program memory (+/- 50MB) with Stock ROM 3.14 is because peoples don't remove HSPL before thy install stock ROM 3.14
Turn back to previous stock ROM
Remove HSPL, use HSPL2_RUN.exe and select a SPL version ex 1.66
Than reinstall stock ROM 3.14
I am not on HSPL.
My Settings:
Memory 54.05 MB
Used 54.05 MB
Program Memeory 336.77
Used 132.09
SPL-3.03.0000
R 2.15.50.14
G 15.42.50.11U
D 3.14.04666
Junk4M said:
I am not on HSPL.
My Settings:
Memory 54.05 MB
Used 54.05 MB
Program Memeory 336.77
Used 132.09
SPL-3.03.0000
R 2.15.50.14
G 15.42.50.11U
D 3.14.04666
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is this phone yours or may be owned by someone else who had hspl before ??
No, my phone, first owner and have it since May.
Just thinking. I did put HSPL on it when my memory problem (64 Mb) started (after installing Artemis for second time). After that I went back to SPL.
Junk4M said:
Just thinking. I did put HSPL on it when my memory problem (64 Mb) started (after installing Artemis for second time). After that I went back to SPL.
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My suggestion is to flash stock ROM 3.14 again over SD to be sure.
I already did that, same problem. With the original HTC upgrade 3.14 renamed to leoimg and boot from SD card.
Junk4M said:
I already did that, same problem. With the original HTC upgrade 3.14 renamed to leoimg and boot from SD card.
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flash original shipped via SD then hard reset then flash 3.14 again and see what happens.
thank you. it looks like it's working. sees 73 MB memory, still not all I think but it's a start
I too am on 3.14. Was a stock dutch rom so annoying
I downgraded to 1.48. Used HSPL3 to install my WWE 3.14.
I too have around 50 mb of memory.
Indeed, the solution seems to be to remove HSPL before running the rom. but if i remove hspl, how will i be able to run the WWE rom? wouldnt the phone be blocked on Dutch settings again?
Also, i was using HSPL3. How can i remove it, to then install HSPL2? what steps should i follow, what should i remove first, add next, etc? (for example, nobody had told me HSPL and 3.14 caused memory problems.. any other things i need to know? )
Thx for the explanations! (and to Samsamuel for his previous explanations)
Original is still working, but when I upgrade to 3.14 (original or Artemis) memeory problem is back.
Still in search of a solution.....who can help.
The memory problem is because you have HSPL while running 3.14 ROM. The easiet method is to go and flash the origional ROM that your phone came with. This should remove the HSPL. If it doesn't, then run HSPL2 - in it is the option to select the SPL that origionally came with the phone (these end in .0000).
If this ROM was from HTC (and not with mobile phone company branding), then you can reflash with the 3.14 ROM appropiate to your region.
If your phone is branded (ie O2, T-Mobile UK, Vodafone, etc), then you have to use the GoldCard method * HERE *. Then you can follow the process for the non-branded HTC phone.
Please note, that when you flash your phone you do so at your own risk. Make sure before you start what phone you have (ie T-Mobile USA) and read the instructions. Then read the instruction until you are sureyou know what you are doing.
Tried it all but still the same problems. back on original
Every time I try to update to 3.14 memory problems start. I don't understand. I really went thru every thing step by step but I don't get the whole memory back even on original the max is 73 MB. A friend of mine has the same one and is on original ROM with 123 MB free memory.
Is there a way to see what's blocking the memory?

[Q] Big problem with changing volume in calls!

Hy i searched for about 2 hours for a fix on my problem.
If i make or receive a call and i want to change volume up or down or activate speaker the phone hangs or get very laggy for a few seconds and then freezes and all i can do is a reset from the reset button on the back of the phone.
Manila: 2.5.20191914.0
Rom: Artemis 48.1 WWE
Radio: 2.05.51.05_2
Protocol: 15.28.50.07U
I had a original german soft (didn't tested if it does like that in that soft too because i didn't know how to make a call in german...)), after that installed HSPL3 and Artemis.
Any fix? Is it the radio faulty?
Thanks!
Ok i flashed RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship.exe and now seems that all is ok.
Your problem was related to the fact you didn't follow the instruction.
I mean with this that stock ROM 3.14 isn't compatible with HSPL.
Remove HSPL before you install stock ROM 3.14 and you would have problems.
Sorry for this dumb question but what is best not to do?
i just flashed now RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe
and i have HSPL3 installed, now everything works fine, haven't installed nothing untill now and 60 mb ram free ( dont; know if its good or bad )
I want to install Artemis 48.1 is it posible or i will have more problems?!
Thank you very much for your answer!
crys18 said:
Sorry for this dumb question but what is best not to do?
i just flashed now RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe
and i have HSPL3 installed, now everything works fine, haven't installed nothing untill now and 60 mb ram free ( dont; know if its good or bad )
I want to install Artemis 48.1 is it posible or i will have more problems?!
Thank you very much for your answer!
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best is to remove HSPL > use HSPL2_RUN.exe and remove your HSPL value select a spl value. and reinstall then Stock ROM 3.14 again.
Edit; if you will some more information; step by step guide take a look on this.
In case you have the traditional (free device):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8776196&postcount=26465
In case you have a branded device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8945325&postcount=28077
Go back and repeat what you did in Post 2 and flash RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.43.405.1_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.0 7U_2.04.50_22_2_Ship.exe.
Boot up into BootLoader Mode (Press and hold Volume Down button then tap the Power button). In the multicoloured screen you will see a value for the SPL, which should be 1.42.000. If it has a value of .HSPL instead of .0000, then you need run HSPL2 and change it to a .0000 version.
You next need to to use the GoldCard method so you can then flash with the Artemis 48.1 ROM.
From your first post, I would guess that you just did a quick read through of the Artemis ROM first post. In the FLASHING NOTES part, it says not to run HSPL and use the Gold Card Experience. All 3.14 ROMs and Based ROMs (ie the Artemis 48.1) require a Radio 2.15.50.14.
Artemis HD2 v48.1
fred_up said:
From your first post, I would guess that you just did a quick read through of the Artemis ROM first post. In the FLASHING NOTES part, it says not to run HSPL and use the Gold Card Experience. All 3.14 ROMs and Based ROMs (ie the Artemis 48.1) require a Radio 2.15.50.14.
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Just a small correction; Goldcard isn't alway's necessary, only in case if it is a branded device who don't have received yet a 3.14 stock ROM or if the aria ROM isn't updated yet to 3.14
kurt-willems said:
Just a small correction; Goldcard isn't alway's necessary, only in case if it is a branded device who don't have received yet a 3.14 stock ROM or if the aria ROM isn't updated yet to 3.14
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Hi Kurt,
I was specifically talking about crys18's problem.
You are correct that if they already have a 3.14 (based) ROM, then they need to use SSPL to use a custom ROM.
Ok i installed Artemis 48.1 over RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe without removing HSPL3 and everything works normal. Except the fact that rams is only 39 Mb free, i think i will repair it with a hammer
crys18 said:
Ok i installed Artemis 48.1 over RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe without removing HSPL3 and everything works normal. Except the fact that rams is only 39 Mb free, i think i will repair it with a hammer
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Read Post #6.
Fixed now 10x a lot :X

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