2Q's : Batt life & Video format - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First: My leo with all of those QHT, Palringo, and Call Block always on, the battery needs to be recharged at least once a day. Is it normal?
Second : Does anyone knows the complete video format for leo to be able to play? I use free "SUPER" video converter and there are a lot of settings, like video codec, audio codec, fps, video bitrate, etc. I tried to make the best quality (yet small in size), but I always confused . I tried to google but the informations are usually too short or too simple. When I was using SE phone, I could always download the whitepaper from the developer site that explain the complete multimedia properties used in the phone.
So, any informations will be appreciated.

fancy_cockpit said:
First: My leo with all of those QHT, Palringo, and Call Block always on, the battery needs to be recharged at least once a day. Is it normal?
Second : Does anyone knows the complete video format for leo to be able to play? I use free "SUPER" video converter and there are a lot of settings, like video codec, audio codec, fps, video bitrate, etc. I tried to make the best quality (yet small in size), but I always confused . I tried to google but the informations are usually too short or too simple. When I was using SE phone, I could always download the whitepaper from the developer site that explain the complete multimedia properties used in the phone.
So, any informations will be appreciated.
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I need to recharge my HD2 at least once a day, I carry two batterys for when I watch films on a lunch break at work and/or I have to go somewhere in the evening. It's worth buying a spare, you can get them for ~£5 from eBay.
Depending on what media player you are using the HD2 can play pretty much any format and any codec, at any bitrate. I use Coreplayer for about 95% of my films and TCPMP for films that use the AC-3 audio codec, which Coreplayer can't play.

Thank's man. I think a little experiment won't do any harm.

For encoding your movies its all personal choice.... I dont have a very large sd card so I usually go for mp4's with a bitrate of about 500/600 64 for the audio.
Gives me a reasonable balance between quality and file size...
Im definetely with Kalavere on the coreplayer thing... well worth it...
And yeah buy yourself a spare battery....... I usually make it through the working day with at least 30% left but that only with moderate use.....
I wouldnt go for the really cheap ones though as they tend to drain much quicker and wont hold a charge so well if they arent getting used.......

Yeaah, a spare battery might solve the problem. Now I'm thinking about a pouch that has a pocket for the extra battery
Thank's for the help

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Galaxy S2 battery while playing 720p MKV.

Ok so how long does it take till the baterry is drained to 10% while playing a 720p MKV. Anyone tested? Going on a trip tomorrow and not quite sure how will it last me.
Thanks in advance.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-review-597p8.php
I meant HD m8 not SD but thanks anyway...
From full charge to power off, its about 9hrs to 9hrs and 30mins.
thank you m8 but are you sure the 9 hours are for HD playing
display brightness is very important for battery consumption, so make sure you have manual brighness at lowest % to maximize movie time.
Just google search Step by Step Guide on How to Play MKV on Samsung Galaxy S/S2/Infuse 4G/Tab...
you will find a simple solution
IMO you should resize/convert/whatever it to a lower, SD resolution since you won't really be watching it in 720p anyway
EarlZ said:
From full charge to power off, its about 9hrs to 9hrs and 30mins.
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Does anyone can have this duration as well?
On my side, I only use Go sms pro, with all the other features set to off, and I can only use the phone at maximum 5h.
About HD video, I'm loosing about 10% every 30mn. According to EarlZ, I should lose 10% every hour.
Can you advise which rom to use for the white version?
I precise the white version, cause I'd try several rom and kernel and the colour are not the same : with a same picture I can confirm that the colour looks darkers with the newest rom/firmware.

Any views on this Amazon review?

I'm thinking of buying a GS2 and was curious when I read the review below on Amazon. In particular, the comments in points 1 and 3 regarding CPU/battery usage are a little worrying. Does anyone here agree/disagree with this?
**** 8 WEEK UPDATE ****
Having had this phone for two months now I thought I'd update this. There are several things now about Android and the GS2 in general that are now apparent to me and may be deal-breakers for some of you, though it should be noted that most of these are applicable to all Android phones, and not just the GS2:
1. If you use your phone as your primary music player (e.g. like an iPod) then this is NOT the phone for you - it (as far as I can determine) has no dedicated hardware to decode audio and so it uses a lot of CPU power to play music. The phone will get very hot in your pocket from the CPU heat and within 4 hours the battery will be completely dead. This turned out to be a deal breaker for me as I use my phone extensively for music playback, and the iPhone is still the only phone I know of that gives 40 hours playback.
2. Gapless audio playback is not supported by Android, though some players buffer the next track to simulate the feature (e.g. PowerAmp) if you're willing to pay for them. Gapless playback may be supported in future Android versions, though I don't know how or when one could find out exactly what version of Android will support it.
3. There is a very common bug in the GS2 whereby an application called 'Wifi Sharing' will randomly start itself in the background and consume a huge amount of CPU power (doing nothing) and drain your battery SEVERELY. Your battery will be dead in 6 hours if you don't 'force close' the application. The only solution at the moment if you have this problem is to install something like WatchDog Lite and set up an 'alert' to warn you when Wifi Sharing starts to overtake your CPU so that you can 'force close' it.
4. For all of Android's beauty and the Touchwiz inteface Samsung has put on top of it, I've become aware of some quirks of Android, especially relating to the (VERY) inconsistent use of the menu button. Many applications use this button differently (or not at all), showing different menu items on this button depending on what screen/section you are in on the application. It's definitely not intuitive in this regard compared to iOS, though some applications do use it appropriately and in a logical manner. On the other hand, the 'back' button is fantastic and I think Apple should employ one in their phones, too.
5. Screen burn-in. I've not seen many posts about this around the intertubes, but there is what can only be described as burn-in visible on the notification/status bar of the phone when you are using an application that hides the bar (e.g. having a white section where the status bar would otherwise be displayed). It looks exactly the same as burn-in looks on a plasma television; a slightly dark/grey area where the reception indicator, clock, and other indicators normally display. I suspect this is related to the super AMOLED plus screen technology though most people will probably never notice it - if they did it would be discussed in forums all over the internet.
6. Complications with applications are frequent. Unfortunately it would seem the Android market is severely fragmented due to the shear variety of different Android hardware (i.e. handsets) available. Almost every app you download will have comments attached saying things like 'won't work on HTC Desire... ' or 'If you get the so-and-so issue then uninstall, reset and reinstall' etc., etc., Coming from iOS, this is rather jarring and definitely does not fly on a 500GBP product. Furthermore, with the exception of the very common/popular applications, you are very likely to encounter flakey apps that consume too much battery power or randomly crash/force close (or 'FC' as it's commonly called in the Android community)
7. Speaking of battery power... In my initial review (below) I mentioned how awesome it is to have widgets on the home screen. This remains true, but generally at the expense of battery life. This, combined with the battery drain experienced when using the phone for audio playback will very quickly drain your battery. You will be lucky to last the working day if you also use the phone on the road to receive and respond to emails in addition to your music, surfing, widgets, etc. This may be considered an acceptable trade-off, but no one warns you of it beforehand (at least I wasn't aware of it, and just assumed I'd still get at least a full day out of the battery). I've since learned Android phones have a horrible reputation for poor battery life. Expect to last around 12 hours with medium-light use.
With all the above said, this remains an outstanding phone and by all accounts one of the very best phones available on the market. It is super-fast - faster than my laptop - and the physical design is beautiful. For any existing Android user this phone is a dream. For people coming from iOS, I hope the above update has warned you of some of the limitations on this otherwise outstanding product.
i read it on amazon and laughed my sgs2 is the best phone ive owned if you read the futher reviews people argue his points mate
buxz777 said:
i read it on amazon and laughed my sgs2 is the best phone ive owned if you read the futher reviews people argue his points mate
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Is the comment regarding audio playback accurate? (i.e. the lack of dedicated hardware results in excessive CPU usage and battery drain)?
Sounds like an apple employee got bored...
The SGS2 is great for music playback. I use mine every day in work, for 8 hours and only ever get down to about 50%, and that's with some web browsing thrown in and texting.
Also, i thought it decoded most if not all audio formats fine? I have mp3, wav and flac files in my playlists and no problems there at all.
On my one hour daily commute..i listen to music plus screen on time at like 60% full brightness when i switch between songs whilst browsing between my news and football apps..and i probably use about 10-15%.
Wifi sharing annoys me..but i didnt notice extra large battery drops.. when i first got my phone i had wifi on all the time and it was fine. Since then i rooted my phone and 'froze' wifi sharing...so when my wifi is on...i don;t have to worry about it.
The super amoled screen gives this phone an edge on battery life above other android phones even though it still isn't as good as i hoped. And the standby time is really good.
Remember iphone battery is not removable so once you ruin it with the inevitable half charges and overnight charges your in the sh*t. You can atleast buy a spare battery for androids and keep it in your back pocket. lol jus read what i wrote...this phone has turned me into a bit of a fan boy
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Is the comment regarding audio playback accurate? (i.e. the lack of dedicated hardware results in excessive CPU usage and battery drain)?
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i dont understand this the sgs2 has a dedicated yamaha audio chip it isnt running as good as the wolfson from the sgs1 but it is still pretty decent in terms of audio quality
as for cpu useage and excessive drain on the battery i use music all day at work and its fine , it doesnt get hot , it doesnt drain battery badly , it doesnt run cpu at maximum
i use my sgs2 as my main audio device as i have bluetooth stereos in the car and home and some ok headhones from work and i dont have his troubles at all
itm said:
Is the comment regarding audio playback accurate? (i.e. the lack of dedicated hardware results in excessive CPU usage and battery drain)?
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The sound card is different from the SGS1, which was considered more efficient. This is why a few sound amplifier apps refuse to work with the SGS2 (Voodoo Sound) etc.
Obviously Samsung decided to cheap out on that aspect.
I have not seen any color burn ins, or anything like that.
You have to remember that people who dont like a product are more likely to write a review .Saying that i use Amazon reviews to get an idea about a product or alternatives a lot before buying .
jje

[TIP] [Video Playback with regards to battery drain]

Hey guys, I'm just sharing some knowledge that I stumbled upon 2days ago. It concerns video playback and conserving battery power on our Ace.
I use MX Video Player for viewing videos and like most I would just copy the .avi file or mp4 file straight onto my sd card. What I also try is to underclock the processor to conserve some battery and the speed I would usually use is 614mhz, to get a smooth playback.
However over the last couple days it just hit me "let me try to convert that avi file, see how much space I can save" so I fired up AVS Video Converter and chose the android tab and found the ace screen resolution (480x320). A typical avi file is around 700mb but with the conversion, most files are around 380mb, but that is not the great thing. Upon further inspection, I get smooth video playback (i.e. around 30fps) while using a very low cpu frequency of 245mhz.
Now I did some testing and waw, what a difference it makes I got like 5% battery drain for every 30mins of video played which is a lot better than the 614mhz.
I just thought I would share this for anyone who uses their phone to watch movies while out and about, it can save you some good juice, give it a try, it worked wonders for me.
Ok guys I did some more testing and this is what I got:
I tested by watching the same video clip (28mins) and recorded the amount of battery drain, then I let the phone charge back up to 100% and did the tests again using different frequencies. I did a stock (800mhz), powersaver (614mhz) and finally the ultimate battery (245mhz)
STOCK (800mhz)
14% battery drain
Powersaver (614mhz)
9% battery drain
Ultimate battery (245mhz)
5% battery drain
Note that the cpu governor was smartass v2, I did another set of benchmarks with the ondemand governor and I did not notice a big battery hit, only at the stock (800mhz) where the battery drain increased by 1%
EDIT: also I was not using the loud speaker, I used my skullcandy ink'd earbuds with the volume at 3.
I got more battery drain
I watch 6 hours movies anime etc
Then battery is at 25%
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Hummm...that is strange, i've been getting really good results
Battery reading are pretty awful on ace
Interesting, I tried to underclock my phone's cpu power to 245MHz but the video play was not smooth at all, I then finally kept it at 320MHz
Why you used MX player? Coz video quality is good only when SW decoder is used, which is hell laggy at low Mhz. You could also have used integrated video player with the same settings you mentioned.
Any thoughts...??
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Galaxy_Rohit said:
Why you used MX player? Coz video quality is good only when SW decoder is used, which is hell laggy at low Mhz. You could also have used integrated video player with the same settings you mentioned.
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I really did not try that honestly, and it uses the HW decoder, I don't choose, it selects it automatically.
SpaceCaker said:
I got more battery drain
I watch 6 hours movies anime etc
Then battery is at 25%
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6hours is good, no? How many hours of video/music playback is the phone supposed to give? Can't find the info anywhere. Also where do you leave your brightness setting to?
I got a free S5830 from someone who upgraded to something else (rooted it, installed CM10.1), and i get only 2 1/2 hours video playback (or even when playing around with settings and the screen is being used - was the same with Gingerbread 2.3.6). I'd think that the battery needs replacing (has Aug/2011 date on it), but when it's left on standby the battery drains at the normal pace it's supposed to drain at. Does that still mean the battery needs replacing?
Are you using the original Samsung battery or did you replace it?
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Xadious said:
6hours is good, no? How many hours of video/music playback is the phone supposed to give? Can't find the info anywhere. Also where do you leave your brightness setting to?
I got a free S5830 from someone who upgraded to something else (rooted it, installed CM10.1), and i get only 2 1/2 hours video playback (or even when playing around with settings and the screen is being used - was the same with Gingerbread 2.3.6). I'd think that the battery needs replacing (has Aug/2011 date on it), but when it's left on standby the battery drains at the normal pace it's supposed to drain at. Does that still mean the battery needs replacing?
Are you using the original Samsung battery or did you replace it?
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If I play games on Cm 10.1 the battery lasts about 2 hours. So 2 1/2 hours could be normal.
amd-dude said:
Hey guys, I'm just sharing some knowledge that I stumbled upon 2days ago. It concerns video playback and conserving battery power on our Ace.
I use MX Video Player for viewing videos and like most I would just copy the .avi file or mp4 file straight onto my sd card. What I also try is to underclock the processor to conserve some battery and the speed I would usually use is 614mhz, to get a smooth playback.
However over the last couple days it just hit me "let me try to convert that avi file, see how much space I can save" so I fired up AVS Video Converter and chose the android tab and found the ace screen resolution (480x320). A typical avi file is around 700mb but with the conversion, most files are around 380mb, but that is not the great thing. Upon further inspection, I get smooth video playback (i.e. around 30fps) while using a very low cpu frequency of 245mhz.
Now I did some testing and waw, what a difference it makes I got like 5% battery drain for every 30mins of video played which is a lot better than the 614mhz.
I just thought I would share this for anyone who uses their phone to watch movies while out and about, it can save you some good juice, give it a try, it worked wonders for me.
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Thank you for sharing this, i will definitely try this out when i next get the chance
i could really do with more playback time.
SpaceCaker said:
I got more battery drain
I watch 6 hours movies anime etc
Then battery is at 25%
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Considering how quickly the battery drains on my ace, i'd say that this is a good amount of time

My experience with Sony Xperia M4 AQUA so far...

-overheating issues(you can literally cook eggs on the back of this phone)
-low gaming performance, games stutter a lot, some even run with less than 20FPS(just look at this - twice cheaper phone outperforming m4)
-low available usable storage(under 2GB)
-takes forever to charge(5 hours+ via USB)
-takes forever for the camera to focus
-no way to root it
-no way to unlock the bootloader(apparently now you can)
-overall feels very laggy, unresponsive and slow
+waterproof
+decent camera
If i have to make a conclusion i'd say its the most disappointing phone i ever bought and just suggest to people to avoid it.
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-overheating issues(you can literally cook eggs on the back of this phone)
-low gaming performance, games stutter a lot, some even run with less than 20FPS(just look at this - twice cheaper phone outperforming m4)
-low available usable storage(under 2GB)
-takes forever to charge(5 hours+ via USB)
-takes forever for the camera to focus
-no way to root it
-no way to unlock the bootloader
-overall feels very laggy, unresponsive and slow
+waterproof
+decent camera
If i have to make a conclusion i'd say its the most disappointing phone i ever bought and just suggest to people to avoid it.
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Overheating issues? I get a max of 60 degree Celsius, not enough to cook
Gaming and performance issues - Yea.. Sony screwed up with
.99 update
Storage space - I got 3GB free lol. But yea, I feel you.
I can charge faster than 5hrs!
Camera focus is okayish, it outperformed my friend's Mi3 so I'm proud.
Root - Almost there I think
Bootloader - It's unlockable already.
The phone isn't that too bad, just the firmware that screwed the performance. Downgrade the phone and you should get a better experience.
I mostly agree with AndyPhoenix9879
Mine doens't seem to overheat that much even after hours of 3g web browsing ( i dont play games)
Performance is a issue with 2.99 thats why i flashed back 1.100
storage is a problem but after unistalling all bloatware and disabling anything else (that i dont need) i got 2.97GB free
Charging with a 1200mAh wall charger takes no more than 2 hours, if you charge only with computer usb 5 hours is ok, pc usb gives up to 500mah so a 2400mah battery needs 2400/500 almost 5 hours
camera is just ok
root, hope it comes soon and bootloader as AndyPhoenix9879 mentioned is unlocked already.
Overheating is the biggest problem. Using camera make the phone hotter, capture picture is so slow. I'm on plan to buy a second phone while sony M4 let me down day by day.
The problem is not root. Camera with 54-100Mb/s is fast,I push button and no lag. Very good performance with firm.112 35400 in antutu. I play emulators ppsspp,reicast,mupen64 and my phone no is hot. Only when charge by USB and I do hotspot wifi and ftp server and play at same time because no power in USB to charge.
Is there anyway to get otg?
Like by using a powered Otg cable.
Xperia L got otg in a similar method.
.112 is the spanish generic firmware of m4 aqua.are you absolutely sure it doesn't overheat?
Yes, I'm sure. If you want I can do any test. Only hot when charge by usb for many hours. My phone is UK without company, with 112.
Im using newest firmware 2.99 and im not seen lags and times where phone got slow..
Overheating.. Max temp. 80*C, okay..
But bad game performance? No no no, WoTB max settings 30-50 fps, MC5 normally playable, GTA3 Normally playable.. Etc.
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But bad game performance?
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPD97FTcghE
The E4g have much lower resolution so it is absolutely not comparable performance.
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The E4g have much lower resolution so it is absolutely not comparable performance.
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25% less to be exact(1500 pixels versus 2000) and costs 50% less(130 euros versus 270) , why can't it be compared?
BTW: My phone seems to get around 29k on antutu on 64bit(just after factory reset), no idea how you are getting 35k.
Downgrade to spanish firm 112 from xperiafirm with flashtool. 35400 in antutu,you will have mass storage option again amera faster and no lag. Y play ppsspp at full speed with tekken soul calibour,shenmue in reicast...
I got this phone to replace my broken s4 for a period of time. I think most of my issues with it can be resolved once root is achieved and an optimized stock OS rom is made.
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25% less to be exact(1500 pixels versus 2000) and costs 50% less(130 euros versus 270) , why can't it be compared?
BTW: My phone seems to get around 29k on antutu on 64bit(just after factory reset), no idea how you are getting 35k.
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Well 540x960= 500 000 pixels (approximately) for E4G. For m4 aqua we have 1280x720 which is 921 000 pixels. Almost twice more pixels for M4 Aqua to process. About the antutu result - results around 35000 were achievable with first firmware (.112). With current one more than 30000 is really difficult.
They have two totally different prices. The Snapdragon 615 is an oven, and the only thing they should REALLY improve is the focus speed and video quality.
Hubby brought a couple of these home last night to replace our seriously outdated phones (his was a blackberry that he ruined dropping it into a river, mine is a trusty old Optimus LG One that is still ticking but showing it's age). What I have seen so far
1 - came with 16gb and had 9 free so not too bad there, can upgrade with a card to an extra 128...should do me for a bit
2 - yes it gets quite warm during constant use but not unbearable, cools quickly
3- my wireless router is dieing (sigh..I loved my old DLink DR615!!!)
4 - holy freaking updates! holy bunch of crap bloatware!
5 - no pre-installed games? With all that bloatware you think they would at least have solitaire or something to kill time while updating everything
6 - camera...meh it's a phone, not a high end picture taking device but does fine to capture those spur of the moment happenings, haven't tested video yet
7 - like the display - netflix, crackle, etc all play clearly, very watchable
8. love lollipop plus the Sony overlay - they have incorporated some of the key features I used to have to download seperate apps for like silencing the whole phone with one click, move to sd, flashlight, etc... little things but it makes the overall experience nice.
9 - sound quality is decent for a midrange phone, call quality is great
10 - it's soo much bigger than any other phone I have had! First phone I had that didn't fit in my jean jacket pocket! that could cause some issues as I am very forgetful LOL
In all, no major complaints... once I get my internet connection woes sorted with the router I'll be able to download my larger games and see how it does there. For now I got Frozen Bubble installed so that will tide me over
I quite like the phone, but I'm getting a pretty strange bug - sometimes when I record a video, it comes out as black plus sound. Even in the pc I can't see anything but I can hear the sound. When I reboot, it's back to normal. It happens when I really want to record a video and then I realize that I haven't got anything. Is there anybody with the same problem?
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I quite like the phone, but I'm getting a pretty strange bug - sometimes when I record a video, it comes out as black plus sound. Even in the pc I can't see anything but I can hear the sound. When I reboot, it's back to normal. It happens when I really want to record a video and then I realize that I haven't got anything. Is there anybody with the same problem?
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Yes, that bug is happening to me too.
Gilmour79 said:
Yes, that bug is happening to me too.
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Reboot phone.
AndyPhoenix9879 said:
Reboot phone.
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Yeah as it might be the only solution, I can't just always do a test video and then reboot if it is black. The last time I wanted to record my squash match and then after 40min of recording it came out black. Hope they'll fix it with 6.0

Is it worth upgrade?.

i am a LG V10 user. now i wanna upgrade. especially am looking for better screen(vibrant), battery performance, with sd card support, ir blaster, camera in low light(i love shoot pics in low light my v10 performs good), custom rom support atleast want root and custom recovery, etc., i searched for a better upgrade finally i cornered this mate 10. i never ever used any huawei device before. is mate 10 worth upgrade?.
i want some real time experience replies,
1. how is the sreen visibilty in sunlight?.(v10 is not that great in sunlight). both are ips lcd and with same resolution also. is the screen colour looks vibrant than v10?.
2. how's the battery performance?.(v10 is horrible in battery performance, SOT rarely touches 4hrs)
3. how's audio performance in earphones(is stock earphone sounds better)?. with hifi dac in v10 audio performance is good with high impedance earphones.
4. any heat issues after playing games or watching videos for long time.(my v10 crosses 45C after half an hour of gaming. in outdoor can't think about gaming or streaming videos, with the help of SD 808 proccy can make sandwich for breakfast).
5. any screen retention(ghost image) or bootloop issues(v10 is popular in bootloop issue, search google).
6. call reception, data connectivity and wifi performance?.
jd.21 said:
i am a LG V10 user. now i wanna upgrade. especially am looking for better screen(vibrant), battery performance, with sd card support, ir blaster, camera in low light(i love shoot pics in low light my v10 performs good), custom rom support atleast want root and custom recovery, etc., i searched for a better upgrade finally i cornered this mate 10. i never ever used any huawei device before. is mate 10 worth upgrade?.
i want some real time experience replies,
1. how is the sreen visibilty in sunlight?.(v10 is not that great in sunlight). both are ips lcd and with same resolution also. is the screen colour looks vibrant than v10?.
2. how's the battery performance?.(v10 is horrible in battery performance, SOT rarely touches 4hrs)
3. how's audio performance in earphones(is stock earphone sounds better)?. with hifi dac in v10 audio performance is good with high impedance earphones.
4. any heat issues after playing games or watching videos for long time.(my v10 crosses 45C after half an hour of gaming. in outdoor can't think about gaming or streaming videos, with the help of SD 808 proccy can make sandwich for breakfast).
5. any screen retention(ghost image) or bootloop issues(v10 is popular in bootloop issue, search google).
6. call reception, data connectivity and wifi performance?.
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1. The screen is readable in sunlight because the phone has good brightness.
2. The 4000mAh should get you a day and a half with light-moderate use. I have about 5-6 hours SOT
3. The audio with headphone jack is pretty good but I heard the bluetooth is terrible.
4. The phone stays pretty cool even after hours of streaming. Playing games gets warm but not hot.
5. No bootloop issues unless you mess with the bootloader or if you mess up while updating the firmware manually.
6. All good
Do not upgrade. Software is crap camera is crap updates don't fix anything and break more things then you wait months for another update. Random reboots too. Only Good thing is screen and battery life.
Just look at all the negative questions about problems on This forum.
I won't recommend this phone I'd stay with lg
Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
jaseman said:
Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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The same here. One of the best phones. Speed, screen, batery, very good for me.
These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
JoshuaLintag said:
1. The screen is readable in sunlight because the phone has good brightness.
2. The 4000mAh should get you a day and a half with light-moderate use. I have about 5-6 hours SOT
3. The audio with headphone jack is pretty good but I heard the bluetooth is terrible.
4. The phone stays pretty cool even after hours of streaming. Playing games gets warm but not hot.
5. No bootloop issues unless you mess with the bootloader or if you mess up while updating the firmware manually.
6. All good
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thank you for your detailed info about the phone. just am looking for a phone with good dispaly, good speed for daily activities, especially less heat(really i burnt my hands after using v10), bluetooth, i use it very rarely so it's not a problem for me.
if the bootloader is unlockable then it's a boon for custom recovery and rooting(i requested lg so many times to unlock the bootloader of my v10 varaint but they never listened to me - dumbass).
my main usage are calls via VoLTE, data and wifi connectivity and some social media apps.
numbnutsuk said:
Do not upgrade. Software is crap camera is crap updates don't fix anything and break more things then you wait months for another update. Random reboots too. Only Good thing is screen and battery life.
Just look at all the negative questions about problems on This forum.
I won't recommend this phone I'd stay with lg
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good that you have nice experience with lg. but for me not like you i don't like their policy. it's worst than (cr)appple policy. lg promised that v10 will receive every month security update but, after nougat update till now not even single update was released. unlocking bootloader and rooting is a mirage. my v10 is already suffering from screen retention, overheat and lagging issues. i don't know when my v10 going to face the infamous bootloop issue. fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
jaseman said:
Don't listen to numbnutsuk....I have the Mate 10 (NON-PRO) version and it is one of the best phones I have ever had, and I have had too many to count. Up to you!
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adminttd said:
The same here. One of the best phones. Speed, screen, batery, very good for me.
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i seen many positive reviews like yours so only i cornered this mate 10(non-pro).
dmlv said:
These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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nice, you got a excellent condition open box mate 10. hope you enjoying much with it. yes, nothing is perfect me also missing the removeable battery.
If you are getting one I suggest you get the Pro version which has much better battery life
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I have the pro version so the experience may be a bit different from regular Mate 10.
1. Mate 10 Pro has AMOLED screen. It's VERY bright and the color is quite good.
2. Battery is very good. It can last a day of heavy usage (playing Pokemon Go for hours) or 2 days of light usage.
3. The audio quality for wired headphone is ok. It's not bad, and depending on the type of music you listen to, the Huawei Histen sound effects may slightly improve the experience. However, it has the typical Android SRC issue (all outputs are re-sampled to 48khz/16bit). This means that if you have Hi-Res music files (96khz/24bit), the audio signal will be down-sampled and becomes the same or even worse than CD quality (44.1khz/16bit). AFAIK, LG V10, when using stock player, doesn't have this down-sampling issue. I don't have any non-Huawei phones to compare, but my FiiO X7 (professional Hi-Res audio player) definitely has better audio quality than Mate 10 Pro (I use Sennheiser IE800 IEM). There are also some issues with Bluetooth audio. When using AptX-compatible bluetooth headphones, there is a small pulsing noise when music just starts.
4. No heat issue at all.
5. If you don't unlock Bootloader and try to install un-released firmware, you won't experience any bootloop.
6. Pretty good. Be sure to check if your carieer's frequencies are compatible with the phone.
EDIT: grammar
Of course it does
dmlv said:
These are all opinions but I will say I have a Pixel 2 XL, had the s9+, and other devices I switch up.
I just picked up the Mate 10 Pro as an open box on sale at Best Buy in excellent (not even used) condition and I can honestly say it's one of the best Android phones I've ever used. Battery life is the real deal I can get 6-7 hours SOT easily. I like some of the features the software provides, and the call quality is outstanding. Like the speaker set-up. The full screen with the navigation dock is awesome.
I really like that the screen is mostly flat and not curved like the Samsung's, and even my Pixel 2 XL. Colors are very natural, quality is much better than my Pixel 2 XL.
Of course nothing is perfect I do wish it had wireless charging, and offered a Quad HD option like others.
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How much did you pay for yours open box ? I walked out spending 344$ after taxes open box.
dieselhazza said:
If you are getting one I suggest you get the Pro version which has much better battery life
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oh yes, because of amoled screen the battery life is better i think. if pro version has the sd card support and 3.5mm jack then def. i will buy it without any second thought. not only me most of the flagship lovers do it.
yfnew said:
I have the pro version so the experience may be a bit different from regular Mate 10.
1. Mate 10 Pro has AMOLED screen. It's VERY bright and the color is quite good.
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yes, amoled is brighter and sunlight visibility is good. but, the pro misses my most wanted features
yfnew said:
2. Battery is very good. It can last a day of heavy usage (playing Pokemon Go for hours) or 2 days of light usage.
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if it's last for atleast one full day with moderate use then it's enough for me.
yfnew said:
3. The audio quality for wired headphone is ok. It's not bad, and depending on the type of music you listen to, the Huawei Histen sound effects may slightly improve the experience. However, it has the typical Android SRC issue (all outputs are re-sampled to 48khz/16bit). This means that if you have Hi-Res music files (96khz/24bit), the audio signal will be down-sampled and becomes the same or even worse than CD quality (44.1khz/16bit). AFAIK, LG V10, when using stock player, doesn't have this down-sampling issue. I don't have any non-Huawei phones to compare, but my FiiO X7 (professional Hi-Res audio player) definitely has better audio quality than Mate 10 Pro (I use Sennheiser IE800 IEM). There are also some issues with Bluetooth audio. When using AptX-compatible bluetooth headphones, there is a small pulsing noise when music just starts.
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in my lg v10 i love to listen hi-res audio with the help of dedicated hifi dac. after receiving mate 10 i have to test both phone's audio output. bluetooth? i use it very very rarely. yearly once or two, i don't know when i used bluetooth last time in my v10.
yfnew said:
4. No heat issue at all.
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most expected thing. after using v10 for long now waiting to have a device with less heat. i think, kirin is better than sd in terms of long use and thermal management.
yfnew said:
5. If you don't unlock Bootloader and try to install un-released firmware, you won't experience any bootloop.
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mostly i won't do flashing but for rooting and custom recovery unlocking bootloader is required. i am afraid if i install any custom roms some unique features of stock rom won't available so better i stick with stock anytime.
yfnew said:
6. Pretty good. Be sure to check if your carieer's frequencies are compatible with the phone.
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mate 10 supports mostly all the frequencies i think so data connectivity and volte support won't be a problem. good to know that this mate 10 supports dual 4g and volte at the same time. great feature.

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