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im going to be in australia for the next few months, and im looking into what phone im going to use there.
Its tough, because ive grown attached to having all the toys on my verizon xv6800, and dont want to go back to a standard phone.
Is it at all possible to get my titan to work on an Australian network? if not, can anyone point me in the direction of some information about other international phone options?
if anyone on here is from australia please let me know, i'd love to get in touch and get whatever information i can about plans and other info.
im open to any suggestions or other options for what i can do about a useful phone in australia.
Thanks alot
Entirely different radio and chip structures
well, you can always use your xv6800 just not to make calls. WiFi and GPS would work, you'd have no cell signal.
So, I suggest carrying 2 devices or searching online or picking up a GSM HTC smart phone. The Tilt/Kaiser Raphael (Touch Pro GSM) and the Blackstone / Touch HD and so many more cooler new devices will work in Australlia. However, some of those things are costly and you could natively use an older HTC phone.
You could buy an unlocked phone and just put a sim in there when you arrive.
The 2 main questions are what do you want to spend on a phone and will you rely on a data connection other than wifi?
I thought there was native CDMA coverage in australia? Or is it only new zealand? I would agree an ebayed tilt unlocked and a prepaid sim would probably be the best route.
Hi, I bought this HTC touch pro almost one year ago.. my celular provider is switching to 3G but my phone cannot connect the 850 network band...I tried to upgrade the rom at htc's site, they answer the rom must be upgraded at htc turkish site. I have 2 concerns... I can't speak turkish, so I could sell my soul to devil without notice (lol)... and of course can change my phone language to turkish and make it useless for me...
Thanks,
Katya
rom version 1.90.456.4 wwe
If your device dosent support the bands your provider uses for 3G then it never will, The Radio bands are hard coded into the cpu so software wont change a thing
KatyaECR said:
Hi, I bought this HTC touch pro almost one year ago.. my celular provider is switching to 3G but my phone cannot connect the 850 network band...I tried to upgrade the rom at htc's site, they answer the rom must be upgraded at htc turkish site. I have 2 concerns... I can't speak turkish, so I could sell my soul to devil without notice (lol)... and of course can change my phone language to turkish and make it useless for me...
Thanks,
Katya
rom version 1.90.456.4 wwe
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First you need to update your info like what country and what Cell.provider you use will help...
this is the spec. for your phone
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro/specification.html
it says that the phone can detect 850 network band...
3G currently 900/2100
maybe you need to check with your provider to change your sim card to 3g capable one.....
for my knowledge some provider when they switch to 3g and you have older Sim will not work and will require new Sim card.
just give them a call nothing to loose.
this is as far as my knowledge...
let us know and good luck...
you have a wwe rom
so in theory it should be possible to upgrade but you need to softspl it first
for the 3G it should be there with or without abbo as long as you have a sim which is connected to the network. if it is not it is not available in the area or the phonesettings are set to gprs only, it shows a G then.
the frequenties are hardcoded indeed and are present in the touch pro.
controlled by the radio rom.
updating my post
Hi... I'm in San Jose-Costa Rica... my service provider is ICE, the goverment company... they just bought the 3g from huawei or something like that...
I'm going to try my sim in other phone to verify 3G compatibility of my sim.
Thanks a lot...
I really like to had the chance to upgrade my phone... I need a US or maybe UK serial number to download new roms
Thanks again
Katya
KatyaECR said:
Hi, I bought this HTC touch pro almost one year ago.. my celular provider is switching to 3G but my phone cannot connect the 850 network band...I tried to upgrade the rom at htc's site, they answer the rom must be upgraded at htc turkish site. I have 2 concerns... I can't speak turkish, so I could sell my soul to devil without notice (lol)... and of course can change my phone language to turkish and make it useless for me...
Thanks,
Katya
rom version 1.90.456.4 wwe
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Its not necessary that HTC's Turkish site will have turkish ROM.
And maybe you should try a XDA WWE ROM.
And 3g has got nothing to do with ROMs.
You need to check in device info(in settings) what processor do you have if it is 701 or 702 then only you can have 3g reception.
if it is 706 then sorry you can't have 3g reception no matter what ROM or Radio you use.
madnish30 said:
Its not necessary that HTC's Turkish site will have turkish ROM.
And maybe you should try a XDA WWE ROM.
And 3g has got nothing to do with ROMs.
You need to check in device info(in settings) what processor do you have if it is 701 or 702 then only you can have 3g reception.
if it is 706 then sorry you can't have 3g reception no matter what ROM or Radio you use.
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thats wot i said but with bigger words lol
mancsoulja said:
thats wot i said but with bigger words lol
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But i don' think the OP understood.
Anyways he should be checking his processor.
And giving details about his device.
But for sure 3G has nothing to do with ROM/RADIO/SIM.
It depends on your processor, your network provider, your subscription to 3G.
iv been wanting to buy teh htc hd2 for a while, and now that it has been released here in australia it is only exclusive to telstra!! im going to stay with my current provider vodafone!
ONE problem....... the phone is installed with teh telstra stuff, which i don't want!!! as i would like to use the phone with its original settings, (without telstras software installed!!) therefore i would like the phone to its custom and manufactured settings!!
is this possible?? can anyone please help??
Quite easy to do - have just finished the same myself. The Telstra-branded version is not operator locked, so all you need to do is install HSPL, followed by any of the HD2 ROMs (official or otherwise) here. I've loaded a couple of different ROMs so far, and am still trying to settle on which one to use permanently. It should also work with SSPL, but I found the HSPL route to be quick and easy.
The alternate ROMs do not affect the phone's ability to function on Next-G (mine is with Testra for the time being), and I've tested it brefly on a Vodafone SIM as well, with no problems.
I'm certainly no expert on this, but I'd be happy to help if you need any advice or assistance.......
So using the Official WWE would remove the Telstra stuff? I would just like a standard HTC ROM.
Yup - loading another ROM gets rid of ALL Telstra customisations. No loss of functionality that I've noticed, and I'm sure that you can still access mobile Foxtel etc if you wanted, just by entering the appropriate address in the browser (not that I've tried)......
thankyou for you reply cheesekeeper!!!
im sorry to be a pain but i am new to this i understand how to install HSPL, but i would liek to know which rom is safe to use and where can u get a good one from? the OFFICIAl htc website does not have any roms as it only has an upgrade for the camera at this stage!
So which one should i use? could you please guide me to one, i would be happy with any that would simply get rid of the telstra stuff!! so nothing too complex!
PeterMav suggested using the official WWE as he wanted a standard htc Rom... (its sounds like what i want) now how do u do that and where is that from.
i have done quite a bit of reading for most of the day today and it hasnt been as succesful as i hoped, but i feel im getting closer in finding an anwer now!! so i thankyou for you help!!
i also have another question....when i purchase the phone, i understand that wen my vodafone sim goes in, the internet will not work! but im guessing wen i ring vodafone they will send me settings to the phone....NOW do i get the settings sent after i do a rom update or before?
i thankyou for any help possible
This Link has the official WWE from another thread here.
Only got my HD2 today and been reading since this morning trying to get as much info as I can before I flash it.
petermav,
to flash that rom do u still need to install HSPL on the phone or just leave as is and use activesync?? as on the official htc website it doesnt say to do so.
By the way would it be still ok to upgrade using that rom being its not specifically for Australia or is it?
I assume you still need HSPL i'm trying to find that out.
And it should be fine for us in Australia from what I have read.
Warranty issue
HSPL will void your warranty. Make sure you read the threads before FLASHING your ROM.
And as for changing to another ROM you can still use your phone with all its functions.
I'm OPTUS user and I have dZenkinZ ROM installed on my HD2 works perfect, and is stable with minimal BATT drainage.
Can you please tell us what RADIO version TELSTRA uses.
Radio version is 2.05.51.11 for Telstra
So can you flash without using HSPL everything i've read so far says you need it.
saied16 said:
HSPL will void your warranty. Make sure you read the threads before FLASHING your ROM.
And as for changing to another ROM you can still use your phone with all its functions.
I'm OPTUS user and I have dZenkinZ ROM installed on my HD2 works perfect, and is stable with minimal BATT drainage.
Can you please tell us what RADIO version TELSTRA uses.
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i havnt got teh phoen yet, so i couldnt tell you, i wana know if i can change teh telstra before i actually buy it, thats y i am asking these questions!
SAIED16, do u have to install HSPL?? the clip i watched in you tube named "htc HD2 (leo) unlock. How to flash cooked rom" showed that it did not have hspl installed at the 4.30 min mark. it had spl.
besides that even if i want to instal an official htc rom from their website will that work and not void the warranty when i purchase the phone??
Well I just FLASHED the official WWE ROM.
I used HSPL and then run the ROM all the Telstra crap is gone and so far it's working great.
Took a whole 3 minutes to do.
YOu may want to check once you update to a Vanilla ROM that the BAND Selection still includes the NextG Frequency, ie WCDMA 850Mhz, thats if you still want to use the NextG Network. If it is missing you need to add some entries into the Registry to be able to select the WCDMA 850 Band
To check what BAND options you have, goto Phone -> Menu -> Options -> Band Settings.
pies1 said:
iv been wanting to buy teh htc hd2 for a while, and now that it has been released here in australia it is only exclusive to telstra!! im going to stay with my current provider vodafone!
ONE problem....... the phone is installed with teh telstra stuff, which i don't want!!! as i would like to use the phone with its original settings, (without telstras software installed!!) therefore i would like the phone to its custom and manufactured settings!!
is this possible?? can anyone please help??
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Hi pies, Im just curious does the Vodafone HSDPA network cover the 850/2100 MHz frequency that the Telstra HD2 is soley supporting?
pies1 said:
i havnt got teh phoen yet, so i couldnt tell you, i wana know if i can change teh telstra before i actually buy it, thats y i am asking these questions!
SAIED16, do u have to install HSPL?? the clip i watched in you tube named "htc HD2 (leo) unlock. How to flash cooked rom" showed that it did not have hspl installed at the 4.30 min mark. it had spl.
besides that even if i want to instal an official htc rom from their website will that work and not void the warranty when i purchase the phone??
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I would hold off because if you want to use Vodafone HSDPA then the Telstra version wont have any or as much covereage as the European one, 850 MHz is only used by Telstra as far as I know, whereas 3, Crazy John, Vodafone and Orange all use the 900/2100 MHz frequency.
Regards
Flashmore
hi flashmore,
so you think i should wait for the phone to be open to all networks? (i spoke to htc and they said after then it shall be available to the open networks) i know telstra only has the rights until the end of march! so i guess ill wait till then!
thanks flashmore.
pies1 said:
hi flashmore,
so you think i should wait for the phone to be open to all networks? (i spoke to htc and they said after then it shall be available to the open networks) i know telstra only has the rights until the end of march! so i guess ill wait till then!
thanks flashmore.
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Nothing would change at the end of March Telstra will likely re-contract, however, just do some research and check to make sure my info and other info is correct. I bought HD2 from UK which comes standard with a 2 year warranty, AUS you will most likely only have one year warranty, mind you I have the hassle of sending HD2 OS if there are any issues. That is no big deal to me really.
The phone cannot be open to all networks on HSDPA (sort of) since Telstra are the only comapany in Aus using the 850MHz frequency, Telstra model also supports 2100MHz HSDPA so you should get some coverage but not everywhere.
AUS, Telstra HSDPA (NextG) 850/2100 MHz
US, AT&T HSPDA 850/2100 MHz
Rest of the world (including Australia) HSDPA 900/2100 MHz
So the summary If you plan to use Telstra only then buy a Telstra branded model. If you decide to switch providers you will lose some coverage with a Telstra (NextG) model.
Regards
Flashmore
Sorry I need to correct myself FLASHING to a none official ROM will void your warranty.
I used a HTC TOUCH HD, which I bought from TELSTRA. and was Telstra branded. I had to take for warranty claim, since I FLASHED to a non Telstra ROM HTC claimed they will not fix it because I tampered with the phone.
HSPL is like jail breaking iPhone. and you can flash from your SD, and with SSPL you need your PC. Also with HSPL you can revert to Official ROM if something goes wrong during FLASHING which means you could get away with warranty issues. Read post 7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
Telstra flashing
Hello I am hoping to flash an official ROM to get rid of the telstra stuff, but still use the phone on the Telstra network- specificaly the 850 3G network
So could I get confirmation from somebody that the 850 UMTS frequency is still available to use after flashing, and if so which ROM did you use. (note that the phone working after flashing doesn't necesarily mean the 850 frequency is working- you may just be using Telstra's inferior 2100 frequency.
Thanks
non Telstra HTC HD2 no next G
Hi, im older, and not real high tech savvy but my new HTC HD2 from ebay did not work with Telstra MMS,they sent me settings for other model because theres none on auto config site. OK got MMS but appears only E for edge I assume is 2.5G? I have tried all settings on net and fiddled now got no MMS and Telstra sent me to HTC for rom upgrade..there is none..SO.
How can I get NextG or 3.5G whatever on this phone,getting dropouts as in country area. I would be happy for Telstra branded if the thing worked on Next G. I know settings up the creek as when send mms test message I get reply Pocket NEWS :code is invalid.ha ha ha boy im gonna be iNVALID soon.
Any help would be great .need sort of step by step config thanks
@rockerseven
If you bought your phone off ebay it probably does not have the 850 frequency- check the back- if there's no telstra logo you don't have the 850 frequency. No 850 frequency means no access to Telstras (better) Next G 3g service. This is a hardware problem, you can NOT fix it with a ROM unfortunately. Can't help with the MMS settings sorry- I find it cheaper and easier to send emails via my phone.
Onto my question-
anyone in Oz flashed their Telstra edition HD2 with a (non Telstra) stock or custom ROM and had it still work on the Next G 850 UMTS frequency, and if so what radio did you use?
Can a 740 be flashed to make it a 743 ?
no you can't,s740 and s743 are different in hardware not just software
Why would you want to do that anyway? S740 has more features than S743.
disem said:
Why would you want to do that anyway? S740 has more features than S743.
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I just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and I want the 3g to work.
I bought a second Rose since I posted the original message. So now i do have a 743 and it works just fine.
You can flash with HTC WWE Brightpoint ROM and it will be S743 in device information tasted on my S740 and work good
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You can flash with HTC WWE Brightpoint ROM and it will be S743 in device information tasted on my S740 and work good
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were did you test it?in EU or in US?Did you get 3G signal?
correct me if i didnt get the point but with a 740 you also can use 3G, it works for my phone within the EU
bugmetnotter said:
correct me if i didnt get the point but with a 740 you also can use 3G, it works for my phone within the EU
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s740 supports 3G only in EU,it doesn't support 3G in US.
s743 supports 3G only in US,if you try s743 in EU you will get only GPRS signal.(I know because I own a S743 in Greece)
The point is if you can flash a s743 rom into a s740 and make 3G work in US,and the opposite with a s743 and s740 ROm in EU.
oh okay.
world's difficult sometimes
So I seen a user say he flashed the s740 to s743 to use 3g. Does this work
? I got a good deal on a new unlocked s740 but I live in the US and am on T-Mobile and I know the 740 works but not the 3g.
MAIL FROM HTC SUPPORT
Dear ******,
Thank you for your request regarding getting your S743 to work on 3G signal that is available in Europe. 3G signal compatibility is not controlled by software, it is a hardware requirement. Because your phone was built for US 3G signal, there is no way to get that phone working on a 3G signal without altering the hardware, which is something that could also void your warranty, as would altering the software. I am sorry that there is not a resolution for you that HTC can provide. I do wish you luck! Have a wonderful week!
Sincerely,
Sarah
HTC
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Bummer. Well I only paid 200US for it so still a good phone, guess I will just have to put up with EDGE.
estpaul said:
Bummer. Well I only paid 200US for it so still a good phone, guess I will just have to put up with EDGE.
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That's what I did for about a year...but it is a shame to use edge and gprs when you can use 3G and 3.5G...anyway...good luck.
Hi all,
Im from India and im about to buy my HTC HD2
Okay straight on to my query....
Im planning to shift to Canada to do my MBA from there in the next 8-9 months.
I already know that the HD2 is a quad band , world phone and its frequencies are supported in Canada.
My question is :
What are the Network Service providers in Canada that i can look for a connection purchase when i go there?
Also , if someone would be so kind as to give me details/websites where i can have a good comprehensive list of Data plans for my HD2.
P.S. its already clear but ill say it anyways. Im gonna buy the Standard HD2 version.
Please help me out ppl.
To the mods : If you feel this [Q] has been opened unnecessarily , then please excuse me as i could not find any such info anywhere in the thread.
Cheers
No help ???
What no CAnadian on this forum to give some info????
please help me out....
Bumpity bump...
Tutorial How-To for pre-MBA level user(s):
Question: "What are the Network Service providers in Canada that i can look for a connection purchase when i go there?
Also , if someone would be so kind as to give me details/websites where i can have a good comprehensive list of Data plans for my HD2."
Tutorial (for pre-MBA level users only, which having the difficulty in finding it itself):
1. Open internet browser (if you are using MS Windows, it will be the icon with the blue "E" logo of the Internet Explorer by default. If you're using Linux, then likely it will be Firefox by default).
2. In the address bar, type: www.google.com
3. In the Google's search bar, type: canada mobile provider
4. When Google will display the search results, right click on the first link displayed, stating: "List of Canadian mobile phone companies - Wikipedia..." (it will be blue again).
5. Choose: open in new window
6. The new window will be opened, and then, you will find the hidden and very difficult to obtain data about the Canadian mobile providers.
Additional information: to check the data plans, on the Wikipedia page, you have to click each provider's links to go to their pages.
Hope that this tutorial will help you, and you will go to Canada to increase your education level... definitely, you need it....
@spamtrash
Wow... this really shows ur maturity level ....
Anyone can do wat u said u fool...
Im asking the ppl who use the networks in canada
ive already visited all the sites for the network providers...
and like any common buffoon , u will believe wat is stated on the sites....
Ask the fellow man who uses these networks and he will tell u which is better for reception etc....
Im not talking about data plans .... even a kid can look it up...
Im asking for first hand experience...
and as far as ur comment.... looks like u had too much time at ur hands and no brains to come up with that,....
wats the matter ??? no jobs in the UK to keep u occupied???
In the first post, you wrote:
" if someone would be so kind as to give me details/websites where i can have a good comprehensive list of Data plans for my HD2."
now, you are stating:
"Im not talking about data plans .... even a kid can look it up..."
Emm... it seems that you are the kid, who wasn't able to look it up, first.
What is more and worse, for such "consequence" I have only one answer, my friend:
You have to ask for the psychiatric advice, because it can be or sclerosis, or shizophrenia, both of which can be (in the early stage) treated.
From another point of view: to compare the reception between the different networks, you have to ask the person, which uses two or more in the same time, using different network providers, which in the order, will have to use different MVNO Networks, as for example 7-Eleven will have same range as Rogers.
Too complicated?
I have stated: pre-MBA tutorial, not: Pre-MBA in India, so it can be too advanced for you to find and to compare by yourself.
And regarding my workload, I have some things to do... I have to correct all of the mistakes and compensate the damages caused by the located in India outsourced "helpdesks", basically because of the reason described in the old joke:
An Italian, French and Indian went for a job interview in England. Before the interview, they were told that they must compose a sentence in
English with three main words: green, pink and yellow..The Italian was first: “I wake up in the morning. I see the yellow
sun. I see the green grass and I think to myself, I hope it will be a pink
day..”
The French was next: ” I wake up in the morning, I eat a yellow banana,
a green pepper and in the evening I watch the pink panter on TV…
Last was the Indian, : “I wake up in the morning, I hear the phone
“green green“, I “pink” up the phone and I say “Yellow“
but this doesn't mean that I cannot read and answer some stupid questions to have the fun about the MBA (or: pre-MBA level) in India
P.S. Could you do me one favour? Please do not send me the PM's with the requests for answers, if I will have a time and a mood to go through your version of Hinglish, I'll definitely answer you, bro
@spamtrash
ha ha ha....
youre such a fuking retard....
LOLzzzz
There... hows that for my Hinglish for u ...
Maybe, but... I know the Candian coverage, tariffs, data plans, while... you know where to feed your sheeps, my dalici friend.
ha ha ha....
man dont stop
ur sooo funny
Wow! back to subject - I use Fido at the moment Fido is owned by Rogers it is Quad band GSM. It is a little less than Rogers. I have used CDMA (Bell) in the past but personaly did not like it. There are 3 Major Suppliers Rogers, Bell and Telus. There is a newer service called Wind mobile which has very competative pricing. Not availabe everwhere yet. If your going to a major city try Wind or try Fido "City" If going to Quebec try Vodaphone
HTC HD2will not work for 3g but runs fine on edge on Fido or Rogers (no 1700/2100 bands) but will run 3g on Wind. I have HD2 on Fido and am satisfied with edge
Fido and Rogers give you EDGE, and it works great for me.
Facebook mobile page loads in less than a second running on Opera 10.
Gamespot ( a gaming site ) running on Opera 10 with flash content loads in about 5 seconds. Rogers and Fido are the same company so you get the benefits of GSM 900 and GSM 1800 with no extra charge, that means better coverage overall.
Now if you plan to go with WIND mobile, which is the lease costly choice you must get the T-mobile version. WIND is a T-mobile branch for Canada.
I have both a T-mobile and a HK version. The HK version even though Unlocked will not support any 3G bands in Canada. But my T-mobile version runs with WIND mobiles 1700+2100 UMTS band which is 3G. WIND has great deals but the coverage is not the greatest if you live outside a major city, check the their web page for full coverage.
And the other service providers will not work with any version of HTC HD2/LEO.
odrean said:
Wow! back to subject - I use Fido at the moment Fido is owned by Rogers it is Quad band GSM. It is a little less than Rogers. I have used CDMA (Bell) in the past but personaly did not like it. There are 3 Major Suppliers Rogers, Bell and Telus. There is a newer service called Wind mobile which has very competative pricing. Not availabe everwhere yet. If your going to a major city try Wind or try Fido "City" If going to Quebec try Vodaphone
HTC HD2will not work for 3g but runs fine on edge on Fido or Rogers (no 1700/2100 bands) but will run 3g on Wind. I have HD2 on Fido and am satisfied with edge
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THANK YOU odrean....
That was a BIG! BIG! help.....
see thats wat i was askin for in the first place.... how the ppl feel about the networks available....
Ur a lifesaver man....
M grateful for ur valuable inputs
yohan_son said:
Fido and Rogers give you EDGE, and it works great for me.
Facebook mobile page loads in less than a second running on Opera 10.
Gamespot ( a gaming site ) running on Opera 10 with flash content loads in about 5 seconds. Rogers and Fido are the same company so you get the benefits of GSM 900 and GSM 1800 with no extra charge, that means better coverage overall.
Now if you plan to go with WIND mobile, which is the lease costly choice you must get the T-mobile version. WIND is a T-mobile branch for Canada.
I have both a T-mobile and a HK version. The HK version even though Unlocked will not support any 3G bands in Canada. But my T-mobile version runs with WIND mobiles 1700+2100 UMTS band which is 3G. WIND has great deals but the coverage is not the greatest if you live outside a major city, check the their web page for full coverage.
And the other service providers will not work with any version of HTC HD2/LEO.
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Thank you yohan_son
Looks like EDGE gives you good speeds on ur HD2....
see im on vodafone in my country and frankly speaking the egde isnt that great... the speed is ok but the charges a are a little too expensive....
How do u feel about the data usage charges??? are they reasonable for Fido or Rogers??
Thanks a ton for your feedback man....
I really appreciate you inputs
P.S. : even i am an avid follower of GAMESPOT
Hey guys can u also list a decent GPS app that works well in CANADA ???
Cheers
I have the Australian Telstra version and I get 3G/HSDPA on Rogers