which rom??
none, go read the forum like the rest of us.
Technically, there are no 2.2's with sense even from HTC themselves. That changes on the Desire today or tomorrow.
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None at the moment, stay tuned for updates!
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.......... PLEASE POST IN GENERAL or Q&A NEXT TIME. thanx
htc desire will have 2.2 with sense but they wont post it till closer to xmas according to what Ive read.
who knows what will happen though, xda is a pretty smart place.
okay that there's no official 2.2 with Sense, but devs made some Desire 2.2 with Sense, as I see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732246
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720294
Isn't it possible for Hero too?
Hero Froyo AOSP is in its early stages as it is so a sense froyo will take much more time.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/evo-4gs-android-2-2-update-starts-trickling-out-tomorrow-loads/
It's coming. August 3rd, 2010.
Didnt people start froyo as a port from the N1? if so then a port from the Desire wont be any harder as its same hardware? i am probably be wrong but nevermind!
There are 2.2 Senese ROMS for us Desire Owners. I think its not possible to port it to the Hero. 2.2 Sense is for Powerful devices
We really need Sense on the Hero, that's the major thing that is lacking on Android 2.2 at the moment.
Oh well if not then Ill have to wait to upgrade my phone to whatever is the next main standard android phone after the Desire.
Would not be so sure about that, most heros can hit 700mhz, not that bad a speed.
My work laptop runs WindowsXP and Ubuntu, with only 800mhz.
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Would not be so sure about that, most heros can hit 700mhz, not that bad a speed.
My work laptop runs WindowsXP and Ubuntu, with only 800mhz.
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MHz has nothing to do with performance. A Celeron D can run at 3GHz and will still perform more slowly than an underclocked 2GHz i7 series CPU.
In the land of mobile CPU's, our hero is very old. Even if it matched snapdragon in frequency, it would still lag behind.
Guys, are you serious that you prefer sense than launcherpro?
The only thing I missed from sense is the social network sync by contact, no big deal.
Go install Fusion Rom (Froyo) + Launcherpro and be happy!
Its not only the Laucnher. HTC has Skinned ANYTHING! And it looks great.
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In the land of mobile CPU's, our hero is very old. Even if it matched snapdragon in frequency, it would still lag behind.
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The CPU, or in fact the entire setup of my Thinkpad X22 is around 10 years old!
This is what used to piss me off about PC`s, people constantly seam to want bigger and faster, and 9 times out of 10, its not even needed.
It would appear that smart phones are going the same way.
For somebody to say "no you need a more powerfull device" is just pure spoon fed, marketing bollocks.
Remember the good old Amiga, or even Spectrum days, performance increases were done by the code, not like the daft PC way of doing things = "just bolt another cpu in under the bonnet"
Look at something like JIT, huge performance increases, simply by making better code, no need at all for a larger cpu.
The legend will get froyo sense in q3.
We'll port it and it will run pretty flawlessly, except that the camera will have problems like current cm6; has, until someone manages to compile a .33 kernel for the hero, including a fixed camera driver.
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Hi i wanted to know if sense ui will ever be ported to samsung moment
i wanted to buy this phone but the moment has a faster processor and a qwerty keyboard ...
i love the moment but i love the sense ui on the hero..
so i decided to go with the moment.. hoping that sense ui will be ported over..
HTC Sense is a software UI layer on top of the Google Android OS developed and maintained by HTC only. Business wise, it would be rather stupid to give away HTC Sense to competitors like Samsung so they can port the Sense UI to their Samsung Moment phone. So the Sense UI is a business advantage for HTC.
It's safe to say you won't see the official Sense UI ported to Samsung Moment anytime soon, unless Samsung provides a UI layer that looks very similar to the Sense UI, then you'd have some sort of copyright infringement and HTC may file a lawsuit against Samsung.
So the straightforward answer is: You won't see the official Sense UI by HTC ported to any other non-HTC Android phone.
Thanks for your reply.
Is sense ui a theme?
or is it the actual operating system.
the main reason why i went with the moment was i heard the hero lagged.
that the sense ui ran slow when multiple apps were open
well the samsung moment has an 800mhz cpu and another cpu just for the modem... but i don't the speed for that one lol
so pretty much the moment is a speed monster compared to other android phones.
i love htc [i had an htc vogue wm6.5v13 & zen her0]
but they were outdone this time =[
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Thanks for your reply.
Is sense ui a theme?
or is it the actual operating system.
the main reason why i went with the moment was i heard the hero lagged.
that the sense ui ran slow when multiple apps were open
well the samsung moment has an 800mhz cpu and another cpu just for the modem... but i don't the speed for that one lol
so pretty much the moment is a speed monster compared to other android phones.
i love htc [i had an htc vogue wm6.5v13 & zen her0]
but they were outdone this time =[
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Sense UI is slightly more than a theme, but it can be ported to other phones as has already been done for the Sapphire/G1. However, since it is HTC software, to put it on a Samsung Moment would be effectively warez.
The 800mhz processor is a fair bit faster than that in the Hero, but then again the Hero has more memory. Both use separate processor cores for the radio, so that is very much a wash.
I certainly wouldn't say the Moment is a speed monster compared to other Android phones - the Motorola Droid is packing an Arm A8 Cortex core CPU, which is quite a bit faster clock for clock than the Arm11 architecture of the Moment/Hero etc.
Regards,
Dave
The here has a 428mhz or a 528mhz cpu does it not?
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The here has a 428mhz or a 528mhz cpu does it not?
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Yes it does, but CPU speed is not everything! I was really pointing out that the Moment almost certainly is not as fast at the Motorola Droid.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Sense UI is slightly more than a theme, but it can be ported to other phones as has already been done for the Sapphire/G1. However, since it is HTC software, to put it on a Samsung Moment would be effectively warez.
The 800mhz processor is a fair bit faster than that in the Hero, but then again the Hero has more memory. Both use separate processor cores for the radio, so that is very much a wash.
I certainly wouldn't say the Moment is a speed monster compared to other Android phones - the Motorola Droid is packing an Arm A8 Cortex core CPU, which is quite a bit faster clock for clock than the Arm11 architecture of the Moment/Hero etc.
Regards,
Dave
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Warez?? I'm pretty sure Manila2D is HTC Software as well and it runs on the Omnia and Sense 2.5 is running on the Omnia2.
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Warez?? I'm pretty sure Manila2D is HTC Software as well and it runs on the Omnia and Sense 2.5 is running on the Omnia2.
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Warez = copyrighted software... and hence is not distributed on this forum.
If you'd like to give it a try, I would suggest that you obtain a copy of the Hero RUU someplace and extract the system.img from the ROM contained therein. From there, you should be able to find the correct pieces of the puzzle (hint: search the HTC forums for information on REMOVING SensUI or Rosie... that'll tell you what to put ON your phone).
Keep in mind. SenseUI was written for Android 1.5, so don't try to put it on any other version (it most likely will not work).
I was searching for some way to get rid of Sense UI without rooting my device and I ended up here in this discussion. Is there a way to, let us say, uninstall, or disable, or whatever, the Sense UI without rooting my device? Thank you
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I was searching for some way to get rid of Sense UI without rooting my device and I ended up here in this discussion. Is there a way to, let us say, uninstall, or disable, or whatever, the Sense UI without rooting my device? Thank you
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There's no way to completely remove it without rooting and changing ROM's.
You could install an alternative launcher e.g. LauncherPro, ADW etc. to get rid of it partially.
It will be possible?
well froyo is doing some problems to the devs.. i think it would be better to get froyo working since gingerbread will take 4 months
NO!
Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5” and higher. (source)
beat me to it.
yea, considering the minimum system requirements for 3.0 I would have to say no. most Hero users cant even overclock past 695MHz so its a no go.
From what Im reading, theyre killing all custom UI with it too. no more Sense, no more Motoblur, no more nothing. just the new stock google UI that theyre working on.
I kinda see it as a good thing. the one problem with Android phones has been that the customization has been too vast. there needs to be more industry standards just like the iphone or we're going to run into phone wars that dont just involve iphone vs android.
I don't think that we won't be able to get Sense etc because that is the beauty of Android,freedom and customization.If we lose a little of both then...I don't know,I just don't want it to turn iPhoney!I think that they only will give a standard UI for apps so that we avoid the current situation,which is that every app has its own UI and there is no consistency.My opinion though...
If the minimum spec is 1Ghz for gingerbread, then all that news about fragmentation that google going on about is a load of rubbish!
I guess it will soon be the end of the road for the htc hero!
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If the minimum spec is 1Ghz for gingerbread, then all that news about fragmentation that google going on about is a load of rubbish!
I guess it will soon be the end of the road for the htc hero!
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We will first starve to death and then google might face problems!Anyway...Microsoft gave similar specs for WP7 but I've already seen a ported version running on the Diamond!What I've learned here in XDA-Devs is that we can never say never!My opinion?We will see Gingerbread on the Hero but it will never run well or smooth enough...Unless we can change its chipset!
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Wouldn't the absence of 'HTC Sense' allow JIT to play an even greater role in boosting performance?
Re: Froyo
There's also a Dalvik JIT compiler that improves overall CPU-bound code performance by two to five times compared to version 2.1.
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Wouldn't the absence of 'HTC Sense' allow JIT to play an even greater role in boosting performance?
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Nah...I'm sure they can develop some kind of patch to enable JIT with Sense like the ones here on XDA(right now I can remember Feeyo's and Villain's ones).
Will it be hard...
Hell yeah!!!!
But it isn't impossible just today some developers made ubuntu and Android 2.1 on HTC HD2
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Nah...I'm sure they can develop some kind of patch to enable JIT with Sense like the ones here on XDA(right now I can remember Feeyo's and Villain's ones).
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My point was that 'Sense' doesn't seem to benefit from JIT, and that 3.0 will have a superior UI making it unnecessary anyway. If the new UI isn't incredibly demanding (the reason for the 1ghz requirement cited?) and benefits from JIT, chances are that Hero can handle it.
Android 3.0 will also have a completely refreshed user interface. According to UnwiredView, the new UI will resemble the Cooliris-made photo gallery application that's on the Nexus One. It will feature animated transitions between apps and screens.
Google has hired Palm's former webOS user interface designer, Matias Duarte. His new position at Google is with the Android user experience team.
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h**p://tinyurl.com/39s9e3a
Simple question really, is Froyo really worth it on the HTC Hero.
I mean what difference does it really make to are HTC Hero Phones, the main differences I know, is the ability to store apps to the SD card, which if you are rooted you can do anyway.
The ability to properly play flash files, which I don't think the HTC Hero will fully support due to hardware issues.
Meant to be faster. But using the 2.2 roms, we have, I did not notice any increase of speed and if anything, the speed gets much slower after using it a few days. (excluding Fusion rom).
On top of this, some apps wont support Froyo, you lose HTC sence/HTC apps, and there is keyboard problems.
What do you lot think?
[email protected] said:
Simple question really, is Froyo really worth it on the HTC Hero.
I mean what difference does it really make to are HTC Hero Phones, the main differences I know, is the ability to store apps to the SD card, which if you are rooted you can do anyway.
The ability to properly play flash files, which I don't think the HTC Hero will fully support due to hardware issues.
Meant to be faster. But using the 2.2 roms, we have, I did not notice any increase of speed and if anything, the speed gets much slower after using it a few days. (excluding Fusion rom).
On top of this, some apps wont support Froyo, you lose HTC sence/HTC apps, and there is keyboard problems.
What do you lot think?
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From the moment I installed the first development build of FroydVillain, I am never going back to 2.1. It's honestly that good.
The main benefit is having JIT, which speeds up the ROM. We have seen scores of 5.3 mflops in linpack using Froyd1.1.1 with overclock.
Froyo is also the latest version, includes the stock browser with the V8 javascript engine etc. and has automatic market updates amongst other random stuff
Have a look at the new features of froyo, as I've never looked back yet
PS. camera doesn't work properly yet, but IMHO it's a decent compromise for the ROM that has given me the best battery life ever etc.
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anon2122 said:
From the moment I installed the first development build of FroydVillain, I am never going back to 2.1. It's honestly that good.
The main benefit is having JIT, which speeds up the ROM. We have seen scores of 5.3 mflops in linpack using Froyd1.1.1 with overclock.
Froyo is also the latest version, includes the stock browser with the V8 javascript engine etc. and has automatic market updates amongst other random stuff
Have a look at the new features of froyo, as I've never looked back yet
PS. camera doesn't work properly yet, but IMHO it's a decent compromise for the ROM that has given me the best battery life ever etc.
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I did have a very good look at all three Froyos ROMs and then I installed 2.1 again, Android 2.1 is so far 100% better for the HTC Hero, in my opinion.
I don't think I miss much by having to individually update the apps, especially since I don't like being the first to update apps as not all updates are for the best (E.G. Astro (now with adds))
Although the Rom is meant to be faster I found it a lot slower, even though I was using Set CPU, only Fusion Rom was decent (but as other roms still had reliability problems). With 2.1 everything is much faster.
I will probably try Android 2.2 again, but I will probably wait till there is a version with Sense as in my opinion Launcher pro (plus) is so inferior in comparison. Sense is a very important feature in my opinion.
Between Android 1.5 > 2.1 there was a big difference and it was worth updating, here no such difference exist, and the main attraction of 2.2 the ability to play proper flash does not work with the Hero.
Just my opinion, but would it be fair to say that its still a bit early to be drawing comparisons?
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Just my opinion, but would it be fair to say that its still a bit early to be drawing comparisons?
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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Yeah, i'd agree. Wait another week or two, till the issues start to go, then look again
tbh i think it is good that the scene is moving towards 2.2.
sure things dont fully work atm and certain features wont be beneficial on the hero, but at least there are people working on it so that there is an option if it is needed/wanted.
it is better that there are questions as to whether we need 2.2 on the hero, rather than endless questions of "when will 2.2 be ported".
Just my opinion, but would it be fair to say that its still a bit early to be drawing comparisons?
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I just posted (on my two posts) on what we have available at the moment, and what we know about Android 2.2 in relation to flash, app2sd and automatic updates. No matter what rom comes out in the future these problems will persist.
I agree that all the roms we have are just beta-like versions, and that I am hopeful that the roms will be faster in due time. I even mentioned in my 2nd post that I will try Android 2.2 again once someone manages to incorporate HTC sense to it.
it is better that there are questions as to whether we need 2.2 on the hero, rather than endless questions of "when will 2.2 be ported".
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I 100% agree with you, and I fully appreciate all the work that developers make in order to develop these roms. But at this moment in time, I found that upgrading my phone to Android 2.2 felt more of a downgrade (excluding Fusion, to some extent).
To be honest ill be very surprised, if we ever get a good Froyo rom, which is as fast as the 2.1 roms and works properly with flash. But we will have to wait and see.
Hmmm. I see your concern about automatic updates, but they are optional, and need to be actively enabled in my experience.
EXT apps2sd is miles better than the included one, so I think it's a case of "better than original" for that.
Sense should come with time. No idea about flash tbh.
Froyd is looking to be a fair bit faster now
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Hmmm. I see your concern about automatic updates, but they are optional, and need to be actively enabled in my experience.
EXT apps2sd is miles better than the included one, so I think it's a case of "better than original" for that.
Sense should come with time. No idea about flash tbh.
Froyd is looking to be a fair bit faster now
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Any idea if we are talking about weeks, or months for Sense
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Any idea if we are talking about weeks, or months for Sense
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I can be even more specific. A few days after HTC does the first Sense Froyo ROM for Slide or Legend. But no idea how good these ROMs will be, as there will be porting needed.
it is possible ported HTC chacha ROM for HTC hero? is ported to myTouch 3G Slide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039644 and HTC Aria
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225858
thanks for reply.
isaac12 said:
it is possible ported HTC chacha ROM for HTC hero? is ported to myTouch 3G Slide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039644 and HTC Aria
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225858
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Fun idea but I dislike the idea of using my phone in landscape all the time. and even more with the keyboard.. But yea funny idea.
Yeah, it's not a very practical idea to be honest. I haven't used the software yet so I don't know what we'd be missing without the "Facebook Button". I guess that if it was ported then maybe a button could be mapped from the current layout. Who knows.
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Yeah, it's not a very practical idea to be honest. I haven't used the software yet so I don't know what we'd be missing without the "Facebook Button". I guess that if it was ported then maybe a button could be mapped from the current layout. Who knows.
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It is possible to map a button, for example the search button, to act like the facebook button Someone did it with the salsa rom
Habarug said:
It is possible to map a button, for example the search button, to act like the facebook button Someone did it with the salsa rom
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actually there is guide too on it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695936&highlight=remap
only point to be noted is instead of heroc use hero and the keys r numbered differently but u can figure it out wen u pull ur keypad.nl file
I can't think why you would want to do this. Some of the custom ROMs out there are based on the same version of Android, unless you're after SENSE 3.0 or something...
Nice idea, but I think the Chacha (the wife has one) is to unique to port, static keyboard, landscape view...
please port only for test
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It is possible to map a button, for example the search button, to act like the facebook button Someone did it with the salsa rom
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yes, remapping is not a problem.
To change it
find "hero-keypad" in \system\usr\keylayout\
edit hero-keypad with root explorer
change key 231 to "key 231 HTC_SHARE "
then your call button is your facebook share button
but i have also a update.zip for that.
why port software that can't help us in any way?)))...we have a lot of working roms that rock...
Want to see a working Sense 3.5 on the hero, and i believe that it will work without any problems
Stefan
yes I want to try Sense 3.5
if this is possible.
it should be possible
sense 2.1 runs on our hero smooooth
3.0 not.. need dual core
BUT sense 3.5 just needs an 800 Mhz processor and not that much ram (not much more then 2.1)
yes i know 800 Mhz agains 710 (max) armv6 are like apple's and peers
but its more likely to get sense 3.5 then 3.0
hope someone will port it soon
i tried but im not good enough
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it should be possible
sense 2.1 runs on our hero smooooth
3.0 not.. need dual core
BUT sense 3.5 just needs an 800 Mhz processor and not that much ram (not much more then 2.1)
yes i know 800 Mhz agains 710 (max) armv6 are like apple's and peers
but its more likely to get sense 3.5 then 3.0
hope someone will port it soon
i tried but im not good enough
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wow, you have a vivid imagination.
not only is the 800 Mhz processor quite a bit faster than most of us can overclock reliably (which is in the mid to high 600Mhz range), but that phone's chipset has on-board GPU hardware that the hero lacks which speeds up rendering immensely and may even be required by the pre-compiled htc sense executables on that phone. Depending on compile flags etc it's possible that rom may never run at all on the hero, even slowly.
There is no reason to believe it will run or won't run - there are far too many variables.
I'll tell you one thing - I WANT to see someone try this, and if anyone can do it I vote for JieeHD with some help from erasmux, elelinux, ninpo, Riemer and others.
isaac12 said:
it is possible ported HTC chacha ROM for HTC hero? is ported to myTouch 3G Slide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039644 and HTC Aria
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225858
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YES IT IS... there is any concret feature that u like? because its not necesary to port the all the rom... (landscape, etc..)
maybe u can emule the features with any apk or theme
just coming back to the hero forum to put my input in here,
im sorry to say it but i think it is extremely unlikely you will get sense 3.5 on the hero.
we have just got a port on the desire and even that involved heavy modification of egl libs. its only a first beta at the moment and it runs smooth but it is plagued by intermittent lag once you start restoring apps. we use scripts and things to speed it up but in the end it still just isnt that smooth!
sorry to crush people's dreams of what could be but i just wanted to state the reality of course a dev could give it a damn good try to get it ported and may very well succeed!
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sense 2.1 runs on our hero smooooth
3.0 not.. need dual core
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not true mate i have it in my dhd, and in the htc desire of my wife
dkelley said:
wow, you have a vivid imagination.
not only is the 800 Mhz processor quite a bit faster than most of us can overclock reliably (which is in the mid to high 600Mhz range), but that phone's chipset has on-board GPU hardware that the hero lacks which speeds up rendering immensely and may even be required by the pre-compiled htc sense executables on that phone. Depending on compile flags etc it's possible that rom may never run at all on the hero, even slowly.
There is no reason to believe it will run or won't run - there are far too many variables.
I'll tell you one thing - I WANT to see someone try this, and if anyone can do it I vote for JieeHD with some help from erasmux, elelinux, ninpo, Riemer and others.
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LOL Don
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We have a ChaCha port for our Legends. It was pretty cool the first day...then everyone lost interest.
It didn't come with a software keyboard.
Gee, I wonder why. ;-)
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Truly is ICS better than Gingerbread in real life [on the EVO 3D]? I find myself flashing multiple ICS roms hoping to gain the smoothness of GB but I just can't find it.
I know the features ICS brings are great:
- Chrome support
- Better sleep management
- Better system/data management (cant confirm this)
- 32 bit color by default (cant confirm this)
** http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
But one thing GB has that ICS doesn't is complete capability with our phones. We were able to make GB fly and I feel since Sprint is dragging their feet to release the update, we will have some time before ICS flies like GB. By then Jelly Bean will be running. It's a vicious cycle.
I am all for trying out new software, I love being on the bleeding edge of technology. However, for example, when playing Max Payne on ICS, the joystick would stop responding or the framerate will drop dramatically. That never happened on GB.
So my question is, whats your reason for running ICS on your EVO 3D? It is because its the latest and greatest or is there a certain feature I am missing? Because I am starting not to see a benefit.
**Disclamer: I read a couple of threads related to this but this subject was never expanded on. Mods feel free to close if you think this is redundant.**
I run it because I'm yet to have 1 problem that's not a known ics general issue.
Sent from my Evo 3D on Sprint's blazing fast 3G network with 4G coverage everywhere
For cdma phones yes, the 2.17 base was an excelent base for GB roms. Us poor GSM users had a crap base which when even overclocked was probably still slower than the current ICS.. for example low 2000 quadrants and 24fps nenamark
I just wish there was a way to use the 2.17 base roms on GSM, I would certainly use it. :good:
ICS runs fine on my phone. And I'm easily getting at least 24 hours per battery, as opposed to 12 hours with GB.
ICS definitely has better battery management. However, for me personally, I don't mind having less battery with more performance since I have multiple batteries I can just swap out. A perfect balance is what I look to achieve. ICS beats GB in terms of battery life but I have to give the best performance title to GB.
Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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There hasn't been an official ICS release? (For CDMA at least). Generally its been a 90 day or so time frame for source release. We should see GSM source in the next couple of months. While HTC isn't the fastest at releasing they haven't ever failed to release source that I'm aware of.
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Again this is for the GSM version, it may not be true for CDMA phones as i doubt you have one to compare...
I myself believe the fact that their phones run worse on ICS then ours because the same thing was happening to us on GB...
I think for me gb gave me problems with youtube....always skipping in the middle. But going to ics has fixed that. Everything is smoother. Battery life to me isn't much of a problem since I have about two extra batteries.
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ICS runs way better than GB did. side by side comparisons of Eternity 1.4.2 vs inbREDed 5.2 verify that for me in an instant.
apps load faster, menus react quicker, etc. I'll never go back to GB and can't wait for an Anthrax kernel for this.
I do wish that the Sense 4 ROM's had 3D and 4G though, because those things run really, really nice.. *sigh*
Interesting feedback, thank you everyone. This is definitely "food for thought".
Whats your feedback on game performance? I usually find myself playing one of the Rockstar or Gameloft games I have purchased and I feel ICS framerates drops much more than GBs.
I feel that since GB's kernel source has been released, devs were able to tweak it for maximum performance under heavy load vs a stock kernel which would be somewhat conservative on performance.
And yes I do have a CDMA version but input from GSM users are welcomed.
Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
I really wish we had a stable build of CM7 for CDMA to play with, htc holding the source on ICS kernels has made the ICS dev basically come to a crawl and it saddens me lol... My old Evo4G had a new ROM out everyday it seemed and IMO CM9 was more stable there than on the 3D. Nothing against the wonderful devs here as it's not their fault htc is being stingy with source.
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
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Many who use cm9 will lol
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Do not compair roms just on benchmarks... ICS is waaaayy better than gb even without overclocking. Solo many more features in ICS made it impossible for me to go back to GB
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I don't actually have an evo, but I've been using an HTC hd2 for a long time, until yesterday.
I was running the latest ics version mostly just to be on the bleeding edge of technology. Their were a few things I really liked more and reasons I wanted to run it because of, but mostly i wanted ics because it was new.
We also had gingerbread roms that were blazing fast and worked almost perfectly. In all honesty they were amazing.
Then ics came along. Many of the drivers were not there for our device and the devs start working like crazy to fix them or write them, just whatever needed to be done.
However even to this day ics does not run as well as gb did. It is very stable, not a lot of fc's but it still has some. In reality its just not yet the same quality gb was.
I think that until HTC releases the kernal source like for the evo and other phones that ics will not run as good as gb. In no way is this in offense to the devs. I just know that its hard to match a companies time and man power when your doing something for free.
In short, unless their is a lot of official support I do not think ics runs as well as gb either.
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