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Have just bought an Hero 3000mAh battery and larger cover for £14.99 uk (free postage too) for a test. Will report back as to performance since it has just arrived and am in process of charging.
Only downside so far is thicker cover is black, but that is puerly a cosmetic factor and doesn't bother me too much. Am hoping that this will give me better than a days charge with Android 2.1 ROMs.
Am not sure that I can post where I bought the battery from on the Forum as this could be considered spamming. Could someone clarify if I am able to give the link.
I have just purchased one as well after seeing this post, Will hopefully be ok.
Initial impressions of the battery seem to be positive (pun intended). Had a slight worry when battery indicator dropped a single bar within an hour, 20 hours later and indicator is still sat at one bar from full.
Am still on my first charge and expect the battery to reach it's full potential (another pun) after a couple of charges. So far am very pleased with value of this battery and the charge it holds.
Could you maybe post some pics on how thick your hero is with the new battery
does a 3000Ma battery can do a damage to the phone?
if it doesn't, why everyone dont buy it?
Bit difficult for me to take photos at the moment, my camera is mounted up for my work and takes ages to set back up. The battery cover adds about 6mm to the depth of the phone in an area equal to the size of the battery. I actually have big hands and find it more comfortable to hold than the standard cover.
dany_my said:
does a 3000Ma battery can do a damage to the phone?
if it doesn't, why everyone dont buy it?
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3000mAh is the capacity of the battery it should run for longer, not the voltage supplied so no damage should occur. The problem comes with quality control on aftermarket batteries, they can be of lower capacity than a standard battery, despite claims of a higher capacity.
There have also been cases of aftermarket batteries overheating and expoding, it is rare but can happen. I bought the battery as an experiment to see if it lived up to the claims and am prepared to take the small risk of serious hazards with the battery. In the end it's down to paying for a name and strict quality control, Kellogs Cornflakes or Unbranded Breakfast Crunchies.
The large capacity battery's make your phone fat and ugly
I rather work with 20 hours of total battery life with a beautiful piece of kit, then to run 40 hours with an ugly 80's looking fatso.
JanSchotsmans said:
The large capacity battery's make your phone fat and ugly
I rather work with 20 hours of total battery life with a beautiful piece of kit, then to run 40 hours with an ugly 80's looking fatso.
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I don't mind having a fat and ugly phone, it tends to be topic of conversation and draws attention away from the very similar owner in my case
feedback please
I agree u don't mind having a thick phone ad long ad its safe and gives more power so pleas to those who have bought this battery can you please provide link to page and please any feedback on this battery is very much welcome
marvi0 said:
I agree u don't mind having a thick phone ad long ad its safe and gives more power so pleas to those who have bought this battery can you please provide link to page and please any feedback on this battery is very much welcome
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Am not sure on rules about posting links to retailers, but here it is http://www.oddsandpods.co.uk/hero-e...-replacement-back-cover-p-120.html#googlebase if anyone objects please PM me and will remove the link
If you enter FP code in the checkout you will get Free Postage
One thing I have noticed about charging this battery, is that the indicator will show battery as fully charged. I found that giving an extra hour after fully charged is shown will give a much better charge. So far the battery will give a good 36Hrs with Wifi continually on, haven't tried it with WiFi off for a long period, so far about 12hrs and it is still showing fully charged.
Thanks 13...
this was really helpful... i will go ahead and buy one
Has this battery worked good for you guys? No problems? I kind of need a bigger battery for the times I'm doing jobtravels etc. Earlier experiences in non original batteries are both good and bad. Bought a battery for my HTC Diamond, and the phone got fried. Don't wanna experience that again (even though my job buys me new phones when I need one)...
Just wanted to know you my experiences.
I have a 2600 mAh extended battery and my running time of the phone with enabled WiFi and Nimbuzz is about 48 hours. Without WiFi, pure Standby, is about 85-90 hours.
You need at least 10-15 recharge cycles to get the full capacity out from the battery.
Phanes said:
Just wanted to know you my experiences.
I have a 2600 mAh extended battery and my running time of the phone with enabled WiFi and Nimbuzz is about 48 hours. Without WiFi, pure Standby, is about 85-90 hours.
You need at least 10-15 recharge cycles to get the full capacity out from the battery.
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Sounds great. I might have to try one of these batteries. What battery did you buy?
I bought one of this too, off Ebay. Although the phone is a bit uglier and slightly heavier, the battery seems to last between 2 and 3 times as long. I gotta say it's totally been worth it. The extra size isn't that noticable either...most people look at the front, right?
Well i bought one and i rly dont like it.
Its almost a half centimeter bigger and allot heavier.
So be ware the phone does get ugly but you do get more battery power.
Tbh i rather recharge my phone everyday then make it so ugly
I've just ordered this battery.
Can any one give some real numbers? For example how long will it last with 3g network active. I bought this one for outdoor activities when I can't recharge for a few days and I would like to know how many days I can depend on it.
Thanks!
I rooted my phone and tweaked the crap out of it.
Runs 48 hours with standard battery now.
No need for fat and ugly
I have this battery + cover too.
Because it's bigger, I find it easier to press the hardware buttons on the bottom of the front of the Hero. THe only drawback is the total volume in your pocket, but that's just a minor point.
Also, flashing Modaco's 3.1 Rom and the newest RADIO Rom, the phone lasts for about 6-7 days with normal use (wifi/3g on when i need it, some regular phonecalls/texts)
Hey guys
I might be buying an Atrix tomorrow and I was just wondering if anyone could post a picture of the threaded-SMS that's on the Atrix...
I'm also wondering what I'm suppose to do with this battery? I heard there is like a procedure to getting it to charge to its full potential when you first get it. Like drain the battery completely, charge all the way up, and then never let the battery go under 20% in daily use?
And lastly, how is the call quality on this phone? I've seen a lot of reviews and have been researching this phone for a couple weeks now and I have seen tons of mixed reviews about it...some people say it's horrible some people say it's crystal clear.
I might have some more questions when I think of them.
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Elliott
I've never even seen the stock sms because I've always used "go sms" so I can't comment on it.
With the battery there is no need to discharge it a ton on the first day, I just recommend charging it full before you use it. Modern lithium batteries don't have a memory. As you break in the battery over a week you'll get better and better battery life.
I've found the call quality to be superb. On my captivate people sounded hallow, where as the atrix sounds really full.
These are just my .02 hope you enjoy your phone, I sure do.
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Clienterror said:
I've never even seen the stock sms because I've always used "go sms" so I can't comment on it.
With the battery there is no need to discharge it a ton on the first day, I just recommend charging it full before you use it. Modern lithium batteries don't have a memory. As you break in the battery over a week you'll get better and better battery life.
I've found the call quality to be superb. On my captivate people sounded hallow, where as the atrix sounds really full.
These are just my .02 hope you enjoy your phone, I sure do.
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Thanks.
What I'm more interested in is how the phone sounds to other people!
Elliott
I think the phone sounds great. My father has it and I talk to him everyday. I can't even tell when he has me on speaker, it's clear crisp and I can even hear tge conversations behind him. My father bought tge phone for me because I did not want to use my upgrade. He lives a few states away and I haven't gone to visit and trade him phones but he loves it and let me tell you this is his first cell phone.
Android has a text file that monitors battery performance and will adjust your percent remaining based on the file. This is the only reason you need to fully discharge the phone, or you will wonder why the damn thing only lasts a few hours. Some custom bootloaders allow you to delete this file to start fresh, but it seems on this one they only way to do so is a factory reset.
The default chat application is a bit of a snore, the standard chat bubbles seen on iPhone. Coming from a Sense device with a nice threaded sms app, I was let down.
Call quality is stellar, even in poor signal areas. The noise cancelling is adjustable quite easily, and at standard settings is powerful enough to completely block out my cat meowing loudly at my feet (the caller was unable to hear him, I asked)
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Android has a text file that monitors battery performance and will adjust your percent remaining based on the file. This is the only reason you need to fully discharge the phone, or you will wonder why the damn thing only lasts a few hours. Some custom bootloaders allow you to delete this file to start fresh, but it seems on this one they only way to do so is a factory reset.
The default chat application is a bit of a snore, the standard chat bubbles seen on iPhone. Coming from a Sense device with a nice threaded sms app, I was let down.
Call quality is stellar, even in poor signal areas. The noise cancelling is adjustable quite easily, and at standard settings is powerful enough to completely block out my cat meowing loudly at my feet (the caller was unable to hear him, I asked)
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I don't understand how a text file that monitors the battery would effect how long the battery actually lasts. It would just be "off" until it gauges it right, other than that your battery should last just as long regardless.
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I don't understand how a text file that monitors the battery would effect how long the battery actually lasts. It would just be "off" until it gauges it right, other than that your battery should last just as long regardless.
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It means that the phone will be reporting you have 5% battery left when you probably have 20+% left, so people will plug it in rather than let it discharge. Thus why you let it discharge so that it tracks battery performance correctly.
Cool good to know.
I tried out the phone today along with the Galaxy S and I have to say the first thing I noticed is that the icons on the Atrix seem very small...probably because of the higher resolution but damn, I'm only 18 and have pretty good vision and they weren't hard to see but still not easy.
I also found the virtual keyboard to be total garbage...maybe it was just the promo device that was on display but it seemed like the buttons on the sides of the device were basically unresponsive to my touches and so was the settings key on the bottom left of the phone.
Using the Navigator app it crashed twice while loading and had to be force closed...no idea why. Anyone else have this problem?
Also while using the phone (it was plugged in the whole time obviously), it got quite hot...is this normal of having it plugged in charging or is it just normal function? It got DAM hot!
Other than that I didn't really do much else on it to be honest.
Bell is going to release the HTC Incredible S on their network supposedly April 4th so what I am thinking is buying the Atrix on maybe Tuesday, which gives me 14 days to return it, which will bring me to about April 12th, which should give me plenty of time to try out the HTC at the store to see if I want to return the Atrix. What do you guys think?
Elliott
live4nyy said:
I don't understand how a text file that monitors the battery would effect how long the battery actually lasts. It would just be "off" until it gauges it right, other than that your battery should last just as long regardless.
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i think he is referring to batterystats.bin file. not sure about the atrix but my captivate used to forget where 0% and 100% charge was and needed to be calibrated. havent needed to do that with the atrix though.
Bump. Can anyone else add anything? Check out my post above (#8)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12340064&postcount=8
http://www.amazon.com/Official-Capa...Note-Blue/dp/B008VPQIF2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_16
did a quick search and didnt find anyone post these yet... thinking about trying one out since its pretty cheap unless someone already has?
what u guys thnk?
I'd give it a try. Looks likes it is the same size as original so it would fit without a new back cover
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Review?
May u do a review on the battery?
Is that another fake 3450mah? Theoretically, it should give extra 38% battery life, however, even if it gives extra ~15% i will give it a try
I'm curious too.. Seems too good to be true
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If and when someone buys the battery, can we get a report whether it fits under the OEM battery cover and does it last 38% longer than the OEM battery?
For the price, I'm taking the plunge. I ordered it yesterday. It should arrive sometime next week. Once I get it I'll let you guys know if it's good or not.
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Ordered it on the day I saw the OP, got it delivered yesterday.
1. Yes, it fits in the stock I717 cover, without having to force anything. You can tell it's not a stock OEM battery, but it fits just fine.
2. Charged it to full capacity using a Samsung external charger (took an hour or so) and then started using it.
3. Off the bat, it appeared to keep a charge significantly better than my stock batteries, but I'm not sure how much of that was because it was just a newer battery vs the higher mAh.
4. Using the phone HEAVILY (flashed a ROM, a couple kernels, mods, etc, did a couple Nandroid backup/restores, ran the v6 SuperCharger script), I'd say I got about 20% better battery life. I'll have to go through a couple cycles on it and do some comparisons with Better Battery Stats, etc (under more "daily use" scenarios), in order to truly evaluate the difference.
My way-too-early conclusion:
A noticeable improvement in battery life, while not mind-blowing, was IMO absolutely worth the price (which isn't too bad)... especially since the boost in power doesn't come at the expense of a ridiculous extended back cover. I'd say don't claw over someone to get a hold of one, but if you were already thinking about adding a battery to the mix - I say go for it.
You need to be systematic with testing. It's not very useful to "use the phone like normal" when that varies a lot. For example, simply putting my phone on a different side of my desk will yield a different battery life because the cell signal changes by a bar or two.
To avoid this, I test by setting airplane mode, a specific brightness (usually brightest) and then playing a video on loop using the software decoder on the same version of video software. No standard sized battery will go past 4 hours in my experience.
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You need to be systematic with testing. It's not very useful to "use the phone like normal" when that varies a lot. For example, simply putting my phone on a different side of my desk will yield a different battery life because the cell signal changes by a bar or two.
To avoid this, I test by setting airplane mode, a specific brightness (usually brightest) and then playing a video on loop using the software decoder on the same version of video software. No standard sized battery will go past 4 hours in my experience.
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But that 4 hours is for CONTINUOUS use. The "test" he did reflects more of real life use, although it is not scientific.
lanwarrior said:
But that 4 hours is for CONTINUOUS use. The "test" he did reflects more of real life use, although it is not scientific.
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What you said doesn't actually say anything?
If the stock battery lasts 3.5 hours and the test battery lasts 4 hours under the same conditions then we know it's actually better. This will translate into real-life.
"Real Life Conditions" just means "didn't use it the same way" and cannot translate back into "worse case scenario". Placing my phone on the other side of my desk means I lose 15-20% more battery life over a workday.
You simply _must_ use the same conditions to actually be able to tell if it's better.
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But that 4 hours is for CONTINUOUS use. The "test" he did reflects more of real life use, although it is not scientific.
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Getting 15-20% more life from a NEW li-ion battery vs a used li-ion is not exactly shocking. The fact is, thinking that any third parties are going to achieve a greater power to mass ratio than OEM is pretty naive. Any battery the sane size as the Sammy battery being 2.5Ah or less is highly probable unless there's a change in battery technology.
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Just wanted to touch base again with an update...didn't mean to start a flame, just trying to report my results for anyone interested.
That said, my "continuous use" described above is (as much as I hate to admit) generally the norm, not the exception, with my usage habits. I used it just as I used the stock battery immediately prior, and I did notice the improvement. I didn't go to great lengths to make sure I eliminated every single variable for testing purposes, but it was one of those "I could just tell" type of things.
HOWEVER, at this point the new battery has been 4 or 5 cycles, and unfortunately is pretty much interchangeable with my other two stock batteries in terms of battery life. As I pondered in my first post, as well as being mentioned by someone above, it seems my improvement was probably just chalked up to the battery being significantly newer than the others. In fact, considering the older batteries have a good 8 months of age on this new battery, you could almost say that they're improving BETTER than the i9220 battery - considering the circumstances. Also I've noticed the battery can be prone to overheating at times of heavy use (more so than the stock battery). So take that FWIW I guess.
I ask for an opinion to experts.
I installed the app Battery Life Repair
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.BoshBashStudios.batterydoctorrepair
I can't understand if this app is really effective or if it is a fake. In both cases, if you want to give your opinion can you justify it with technical considerations?
It's strange to see so many high ratings, but it is also strange that there are no tests or in-depth reviews.
Sorry for bringing a thread from the dead but I am also very curious as to how this app works (or if it does at all).
Such apps don't work.. They're usually fake and earn money through ads. Battery life is purely hardware and can't be increased by a software other than changing kernel features...
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MasterAwesome said:
Such apps don't work.. They're usually fake and earn money through ads. Battery life is purely hardware and can't be increased by a software other than changing kernel features...
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what a load of crap.
You can increase the length of your battery time betweeen charges by lessening the load on the cpu(which causes ups in voltage usage).
we reduce cpu load by reducing ram usage too.
also, turning the display brightness down and turning off unneeded features like bluetooth or wifi.
the kernel can be made more efficient like you said. so i agree there.
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what a load of crap.
You can increase the length of your battery time betweeen charges by lessening the load on the cpu(which causes ups in voltage usage).
we reduce cpu load by reducing ram usage too.
also, turning the display brightness down and turning off unneeded features like bluetooth or wifi.
the kernel can be made more efficient like you said. so i agree there.
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Trying to do that the battery app takes more battery by being in the background always. sometimes it also steals data.. There's no point you're better of without it.
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MasterAwesome
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MasterAwesome said:
Trying to do that the battery app takes more battery by being in the background always. sometimes it also steals data.. There's no point you're better of without it.
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MasterAwesome
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Of course the battery does nothing.
thats what the settings > battery
function is for anyways. to see the resource hog of the system.
so it works in identifiying the problem.
but your right, the battery app is unnecessary since we already have a stock implementation.
but that wasn't my point. my point is that you can modify the userspace for more battery between charges.
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Of course the battery does nothing.
thats what the settings > battery
function is for anyways. to see the resource hog of the system.
so it works in identifiying the problem.
but your right, the battery app is unnecessary since we already have a stock implementation.
but that wasn't my point. my point is that you can modify the userspace for more battery between charges.
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At the end of day we agree that battery apps are not required... Android is pretty optimized by itself.
Decrease screen brightness and timeout it takes the highest amount of battery.
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MasterAwesome said:
At the end of day we agree that battery apps are not required... Android is pretty optimized by itself.
Decrease screen brightness and timeout it takes the highest amount of battery.
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"At the end of day we agree that battery apps are not required.." obviously.
"Android is pretty optimized by itself. " its not about android(I didnt mention android being optimized, I figured that it was pretty obvious and didnt need discussion), it was about android having the tools to find the problem. see the following:
"Decrease screen brightness and timeout it takes the highest amount of battery. "and this brings me to MY POINT.
We are talking about app hogs which ARE a problem.
I would expect the OP has enough of a brain to reduce the brightness.
You have app services that use tons of ram and cpu. Why can't you accept that?
The theory behind a battery app is legitimate, but the OP just has to use the builtin android application.
Lgrootnoob said:
"At the end of day we agree that battery apps are not required.." obviously.
"Android is pretty optimized by itself. " its not about android(I didnt mention android being optimized, I figured that it was pretty obvious and didnt need discussion), it was about android having the tools to find the problem. see the following:
"Decrease screen brightness and timeout it takes the highest amount of battery. "and this brings me to MY POINT.
We are talking about app hogs which ARE a problem.
I would expect the OP has enough of a brain to reduce the brightness.
You have app services that use tons of ram and cpu. Why can't you accept that?
The theory behind a battery app is legitimate, but the OP just has to use the builtin android application.
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Confrontation Much
The original posting he said was that software does not have impact on hardware in that it can not fix physical damage on the battery such as dead cells.
Such apps are just fake.
I purchased a new phone and same day I installed repair battery life. It showed 8 low cells and one inactive. It claimed it will increase my battery life by 18% (WOW, LOL)
After that I tried again and it showed me all green cells.
I cleared the app's cache, cleared data and uninstalled the app.
Later on, I calibrated the battery with another app called "battery fix" which needs root and deletes batterystats.bin file
I once installed "repair battery life" and guess what? It showed again 8 low cells and one inactive.
It's just another fake crAPP
Number of cells shown suggests fake.
I tried Battery Life Repair by "Extended Apps " and I remain very sceptical. Nowhere it is explained what the app actually does.
A normal Phone has one or two cells. This app shows 100 cells and claims that some are broken or damaged and the software can repair it through some extraordinary (supernatural?) process. It Claims it repaired these problematic cells (like 5 out of 100), although it physically makes no sense considering a phone has one or two cells, which are usually either working or broken. Then it also requests access to media, identity and accounts, which is suspicious given what the app claims to do.
Comments in the app-store just prove to me that placebos work. On the other hand, some people figured that if the "battery repair" is done, the app data is deleted and the app run again, it again shows the same amount of "problematic cells".
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I tried Battery Life Repair by "Extended Apps " and I remain very sceptical. Nowhere it is explained what the app actually does.
A normal Phone has one or two cells. This app shows 100 cells and claims that some are broken or damaged and the software can repair it through some extraordinary (supernatural?) process. It Claims it repaired these problematic cells (like 5 out of 100), although it physically makes no sense considering a phone has one or two cells, which are usually either working or broken. Then it also requests access to media, identity and accounts, which is suspicious given what the app claims to do.
Comments in the app-store just prove to me that placebos work. On the other hand, some people figured that if the "battery repair" is done, the app data is deleted and the app run again, it again shows the same amount of "problematic cells".
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I strongly suspected myself this app is complete bull twaddle, but I was also curious so installed it just to see what it makes of the battery "analysis".
It magically 'fixed' the problem cells, but unlike you on a subsequent retest the previously 'faulty cells' had still be 'fixed'.
I wonder how this app is polling the 'cells'? Or is it just making up some fancy graphics and not actually doing anything at all under the hood?
I also wonder what would happen if I switched batteries or took the existing one out and in again? Maybe I'll try at some point.
This is my experience.
I thought this is impossible but i installed it just to try..
In that time i first tryed it i had Galaxy 3 Apollo. Battery was so bad that percentage was going low when you were looking on it and after some short period of time phone just shutdown by itself.. I decided to try it so maybe i save money for new battery. With few shutdowns i finally did it and something happen. Battery didn't go low that way and phone stoped turning off by itself!! It could stop while i was washing dishes but it was "fixed" after i used that app, so i dont know. I don't personally think that some app can fix hardware issue but i think it works as some "refresh" or something like that. I don't know really but in my case was money saver what ever that is. Oh and i'm talking about "Extended Apps" app.. :/
I'm also skeptical about these things but unlike others in here, I tried before drawing conclusion with my awesome rational brain. And yes it works marvelous. My Galaxy Note 3 battery is working as brand new, giving 3 to 4 days without charging and it was 1 to 2 days before the app. I don't think that is placebo effect and I have absolutely no idea what the app does, and too bad the dev doesn't have a website, but the app is good. Also using the other app from the same dev, called Advanced Battery Calibrator and letting the phone charge till 100% while off did wonderful things.
I still wonder how it can fix hardware of it simply erase data from the battery increasing risk to catch on fire, but it does work.
As far as I know, the software keeps data of the battery in other to avoid charges over 100%. With time that will effectively make the battery charge till 99% then 98% and goes on, till u have a battery on 70% for example but the software say its 100%, because it wont charge more than that to avoid the risk of fire. Perhaps this app erase that data and increase the risk of mal function. But I have no idea.
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I'm also skeptical about these things but unlike others in here, I tried before drawing conclusion with my awesome rational brain. And yes it works marvelous. My Galaxy Note 3 battery is working as brand new, giving 3 to 4 days without charging and it was 1 to 2 days before the app. I don't think that is placebo effect and I have absolutely no idea what the app does, and too bad the dev doesn't have a website, but the app is good. Also using the other app from the same dev, called Advanced Battery Calibrator and letting the phone charge till 100% while off did wonderful things.
I still wonder how it can fix hardware of it simply erase data from the battery increasing risk to catch on fire, but it does work.
As far as I know, the software keeps data of the battery in other to avoid charges over 100%. With time that will effectively make the battery charge till 99% then 98% and goes on, till u have a battery on 70% for example but the software say its 100%, because it wont charge more than that to avoid the risk of fire. Perhaps this app erase that data and increase the risk of mal function. But I have no idea.
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If your battery has dead cells im sorry but no app will fix it, unless its magic! It must replace the cells somehow magically! Omg do some basic research these apps are fake garbage! Maybe it can fix my dead s3 battery hahaha NOT!
hilla_killa said:
If your battery has dead cells im sorry but no app will fix it, unless its magic! It must replace the cells somehow magically! Omg do some basic research these apps are fake garbage! Maybe it can fix my dead s3 battery hahaha NOT!
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ofc is not gona revive a battery,but even that it can be made,in some cases,i saw that of ppl proving that live,they took a dead battery and test it to show that it is dead and just used another same model battery that it was working and hold them connected like 5 min toghether,after that it just put the dead battery at charged and what u know?it did revived it,no idea how the battery actually work,but it seems that they can actually get stuck somehow and they can get a "forced" revive,like a CPR for humans,but like i said,not working with all,same as like on humans,not all can be revived with CPR,but i guess that this app has to do something coz like some in here i did used it and ... the magic worked,not on a dead battery,so scheptical as it sounds,on some batteries it works even tho maybe is not something hardware but maybe just something software,why i say that,i had a tablet and a few times when i was restarting the tablet,after a min was turning off coz of battery 0%,and that after i got the recharger plug off,so it was 100% for sure,after a few times restarting the tablet it was showing again 100 % as it should be,so i guess that not even android is always reading the data correctly
Of course is a full fake. Uninstall them, becouse they can do bitcoin mining or whatever gain trough pupup and promotions., as well as getting your data.
1) Ion litium or polymer batteries cannot be repaired.
2) cells are 1 or max 4 not 256 as those apps shows
3) clearing the cache brings different fault cells
4) reinastalling shows other broken cells
5) strangely the application after "repair" stays open in background. So at least the word "repair" is a joke fooling people.
6) dynamic ram and ddr are always powered and refresh cycles are required in all the address space generally, so saying that freeing ram allow more battery duration is a fake.
7) whatever the app does to have battery least more is just sw and tricky. I would not rely on that and remove the app.
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MasterAwesome did u disable Lgrootnoob's account because it says its disabled was it because he challenged ur opinion? lol childish much? Who cares if it works it either works or it doesnt I dont see it hurting me
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Crazydan360 said:
MasterAwesome did u disable Lgrootnoob's account because it says its disabled was it because he challenged ur opinion? lol childish much? Who cares if it works it either works or it doesnt I dont see it hurting me
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Didnt notice this was my brothers account he uses my phone
Hello, there's a way to calibrate your battery without root.
to calibrate your battery, i found by my self a way to(when i did it, the battery time left was increased):
1)charge your phone to 100% battery.
2)turn on- wifi, auto rotation, bluetooth...(everything that is consuming battery not including apps)
3)leave your phone with screen off.
4)discharge much as you can.
5)when you finished, charge your phone and don't use the phone.
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if you want a proof that this is worked- open settings and see how much time left for your battery(you will see that it had been increased).
FYI I just finished testing Battery Life Repair 2018 by running it on a new Android tablet with a huge 8000+mAh battery. It reported about 14 weak or bad cells out of a total of 120 cells. When told to fix those cells, it requests you to download another of their apps to help support them. Just say YES, then kick back out without downloading and the fix finishes. I had hardware "USB Safety Tester" connected during this test (it displays various info including the charging voltage and amperage). With about 12% of the cells reported bad, after the fix the Tester recorded zero increase in Volts or Amps. So it maintained a steady watt draw from the charger even after 14 more cells were now drawing watts to charge. Next I cleared storage on the app, ran it again, and got 12 different cells reported to have problems. Fixed those cells, and again, no change in charge draw.
I also found it strange that it would use WIFI and Cell Data and run in the background. Why?
The Battery Life Repair app reports that my Galaxy S5 also has 120 cells in its battery. Seeing as almost 99% of phones and tables have a SINGLE cell in their battery (one or two phones have 2 cells), the display of a 120 cell grid seems rather fishy. Having a 120 cell battery requires cell balancing hardware and software that that would add to the cost of the phone, plus make the battery physically larger. My electric bike has about 80-90 cells in it and it weighs about 15lbs and is 30,000 mAh and 47 volts. Hard to do in one or two cells. That is a good example of why a multi cell (3.6 v each?) battery is needed. But not a cell phone or tablet.
I know my test is not the most scientific, but at least I did check for a change in wattage draw before and after fixing cells, and not just ecstatically claim my battery has improved.
So I call Battery Repair Life 2018 to be a steaming pile of BS that is probably robbing you of your contacts and other personal information while running in the background sucking up your data plan. But, hey, that's just me.
With credit to VR-25 from Github:
If you edit these files and put you own values in then your phone will start charging when it drops below 75% and stop when it gets to 80%. (put your own values in, etc.)
I have only tested it briefly but it seems to work for AC and USB charging for me so far. No other apps or tweaks needed.
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_start_level:75
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_stop_level:80
EDIT: You need to be rooted to do this, and you need to reapply the settings after reboot.
I have a Tasker action that does this automatically 5 minutes after rebooting.
If only there was a way to use that without root :-S
What would be the purpose for this.
I always charged to a 100% and never had issues on my devices.
I use the adaptive charging overnight and think that will help with battery life.
vandyman said:
What would be the purpose for this.
I always charged to a 100% and never had issues on my devices.
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If you do some reading you will see that charging over 80% and draining under 20% will significantly shorten the lifespan of your battery. This is important for those of us that have devices not sold in our country so getting replacement batteries would be very difficult and expensive. I have phones that are more than 9 years old and still going fine if charged like this.
Galaxea said:
If you do some reading you will see that charging over 80% and draining under 20% will significantly shorten the lifespan of your battery. This is important for those of us that have devices not sold in our country so getting replacement batteries would be very difficult and expensive. I have phones that are more than 9 years old and still going fine if charged like this.
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If you would have read the correct information on this subject. You would know that this not true for today's battery technology.
This is nothing but a myth.
You will have a better chance looking for Bigfoot.
Why waste 40% of your battery use....
vandyman said:
If you would have read the correct information on this subject. You would know that this not true for today's battery technology.
This is nothing but a myth.
You will have a better chance looking for Bigfoot.
Why waste 40% of your battery use....
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On the contrary. The most recent phones attempt to limit the time that they spend at 100% exactly because it's so bad for battery longevity. Having options like the OP's approach just gives users more flexibility, should they want more control than, in this case, Google's adaptive/AI approach.
And it's not 'wasting' 40% of the battery. Keeping between 80% and 20% just optimizes battery service life during those days you only actually only need 60% of it's possible capacity. When working from home that's often the case for me. I actually tend to use ~30% of the battery in a day. Better to charge it up daily to about 70% than all the way to 100% and let it go down to 10% over 3 days. If it's easy to do, why not?
Not quite the same, but EV design also has their batteries normally operating in the middle range so as not to compromise their service life...
Definitely not myth. The only myth is that lithium cells exhibit a memory effect and need to be deep discharged and fully recharged periodically to maintain their capacity. It's actually bad for them to do this! The only reason to do this would be in an attempt to recalibrate the software for the battery level gauge (at the cost of a little damage to the battery each time you do that).
vandyman said:
What would be the purpose for this.
I always charged to a 100% and never had issues on my devices.
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Most folk don't notice reduction in battery capacity until it becomes severe. For example, a friend claimed it wasn't a problem charging his iPhone to 100% ritually. When he checked the OS, it said his battery capacity was 80% of what it was when new. He said he hadn't noticed it affect how long the phone lasted.
If your usage is such that you can predict how much capacity you need, you can choose to charge to 100% only those times you will actually need that capacity. Other times you can look after the battery so it's able to actually give near on 100% for longer, those times it's important to you.
Others who keep their phones a short time or are comfortable with the cost & inconvenience of a battery replacement, or simply don't care, don't have to worry....
WibblyW said:
On the contrary. The most recent phones attempt to limit the time that they spend at 100% exactly because it's so bad for battery longevity. Having options like the OP's approach just gives users more flexibility, should they want more control than, in this case, Google's adaptive/AI approach.
And it's not 'wasting' 40% of the battery. Keeping between 80% and 20% just optimizes battery service life during those days you only actually only need 60% of it's possible capacity. When working from home that's often the case for me. I actually tend to use ~30% of the battery in a day. Better to charge it up daily to about 70% than all the way to 100% and let it go down to 10% over 3 days. If it's easy to do, why not?
Not quite the same, but EV design also has their batteries normally operating in the middle range so as not to compromise their service life...
Definitely not myth. The only myth is that lithium cells exhibit a memory effect and need to be deep discharged and fully recharged periodically to maintain their capacity. It's actually bad for them to do this! The only reason to do this would be in an attempt to recalibrate the software for the battery level gauge (at the cost of a little damage to the battery each time you do that).
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This all maybe good if you are planning on keeping your device for a few years.
Most people buy a new device every other year. If not once a year.
... and if you really want to knacker the battery, heat it up too!
Worst case scenario - using a sat nav app on your phone in the car on a hot day with the phone plugged into a car adaptor. It's going to be sitting there at elevated temperatures, possibly with the sun shining on it, whilst being kept at 100% battery....
I'm only a customer (and have no other affiliation) and like to tinker, so I got one of these for use in the car to limit temperature when charging and limit max charge. Not cheap, but ok compared with the cost of the phone https://chargie.org/
I'm sorry, but at the snails pace this phone charges I'd be very surprised if charging it to 100% every night will make any noticeable difference in the long run. I had a Xiaomi Mi10 Ultra with 120W fast charger. That phone used to charge from 0% to full in like 20 minutes. Now that's one way to quickly kill your battery.
The Pixel uses your alarm to adaptively charge the battery so it should never overcharge it anyway. I'd much rather us all of my battery than use it only between 20 and 80% just for it to last a little longer.
The files are overwritten on reboot so I created a Tasker task to write the values on reboot each time.
Biggenz said:
I'm sorry, but at the snails pace this phone charges I'd be very surprised if charging it to 100% every night will make any noticeable difference in the long run.
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On what basis? All the research and tests are based on charge level not charge rate. Fast charging potentially just makes it worse...
But at the end of the day it's your phone. You'll charge it in whatever way works for you.
I feel like this post sort of misses the point. It clearly is aimed at those intending to keep their phones >1yr, it is stated explicitly.
I'm not rooted right now, so I've been using the AccuBattery app. One of the things it does it gives a notification every few minutes when the battery is at 80% or above so that you can physically unplug the phone from the charger. Obviously having this done automatically would be better, but I've been surprised at how well the notifications have worked in my case. Plus, I can always leave the phone plugged in if I know I need a full battery for some reason (ie a long day away from any charging source).
Galaxea said:
With credit to VR-25 from Github:
If you edit these files and put you own values in then your phone will start charging when it drops below 75% and stop when it gets to 80%. (put your own values in, etc.)
I have only tested it briefly but it seems to work for AC and USB charging for me so far. No other apps or tweaks needed.
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_start_level:75
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_stop_level:80
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Dumb question but what did you use to write values into those files? Did you use a text editor (with root access) or just termux or something? I tried with the built in MiX text editor but it seems to choke once I open up the file.
Gibsonflyingv said:
Dumb question but what did you use to write values into those files? Did you use a text editor (with root access) or just termux or something? I tried with the built in MiX text editor but it seems to choke once I open up the file.
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I used FX File Explorer (root option). Look for the #. SYSTEM (Root).
I was wondering if changing the file permissions after writing to them to read-only would make the changes stick, but I am sure the OS could still overwrite them...??
I wonder if there's a similar variable to tweak at what temperature the phone considers the battery is too hot and stops charging?
Galaxea said:
With credit to VR-25 from Github:
If you edit these files and put you own values in then your phone will start charging when it drops below 75% and stop when it gets to 80%. (put your own values in, etc.)
I have only tested it briefly but it seems to work for AC and USB charging for me so far. No other apps or tweaks needed.
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_start_level:75
/sys/devices/platform/google,charger/charge_stop_level:80
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Did a bit of testing and it works fine. A few things I noticed:
1. Doesn't survive reboot. Now that I've set up MiX with pinned folders, I can make the change in seconds. Need to sit down and read through the acc documentation because AccA doesn't work. Would love to have an automatic solution. Miss my old Battery Charge Limit.
2. charge_start doesn't seem to matter. After all, if charge_start is set to 75 and the phone is at 70%, it shouldn't charge. But it does. I've kept mine at 0.
3. Point #2 is kinda beside the point, though, because charge_stop will stop at the set value and stay there. No noticeable increase in temperature from what I can see. Definitely less than when charging.
4. Still shows as charging rapidly when it hits the level. Is it rapidly cycling charging on and off? Or in a kind of micro-current state? Or this may be a true battery idle situation where all power is drawn from the adapter. Ampere and AccA just show "not charging".
Edit: With a bit of use today, it does seem to act like a normal min/max charge deal, so I set it at 75 start/76 stop. Not sure what was happening at first...maybe something to do with the adaptive charging since I still have that on. Either, way, no complaints. With my use case working from home, I have it plugged in most of the day and it'll only take me about a minute to change charge_stop to 100 when I'm planning to go out all day somewhere away from chargers. Not ideal, but still a big improvement. Changes my rating of the thing from maybe 3.5 stars to 4.5.