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WHen a good stable (witch there alreay kind of is) android version is out with everything pretty much working, when would an atcual ROM be out so we can get rid of winmo completley? after a stable version is made, it is easy or hard to do that?
dvigue said:
WHen a good stable (witch there alreay kind of is) android version is out with everything pretty much working, when would an atcual ROM be out so we can get rid of winmo completley? after a stable version is made, it is easy or hard to do that?
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why on earth would you wanna do that...?. if you hate winmo so much why not just sell up and buy an android phone....problem solved !!!
donwhann said:
why on earth would you wanna do that...?. if you hate winmo so much why not just sell up and buy an android phone....problem solved !!!
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Where in my post did i say "i hate WInmo"? i went back to read it and i did not see it there??
obviously android will run much faster and better with winmo not also running.
THAT is what i meant...why run two OS's?
and if android will have a full port...why change??
dvigue said:
Where in my post did i say "i hate WInmo"? i went back to read it and i did not see it there??
obviously android will run much faster and better with winmo not also running.
THAT is what i meant...why run two OS's?
and if android will have a full port...why change??
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From what I know both OS's are not running, hence having to shut down android and reboot winmo. But Im probably wrong.
Though I too would like to know an answer to your question about a rom!
At the risk of sounding borishly redundant... search is your friend, and of course it's all speculative.
dvigue said:
Where in my post did i say "i hate WInmo"? i went back to read it and i did not see it there??
obviously android will run much faster and better with winmo not also running.
THAT is what i meant...why run two OS's?
and if android will have a full port...why change??
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fair enough, but when i read "so we can get rid of winmo completley" it kind of makes me think your not at all happy with the os. android on hd2 is never going to be the same as having a dedicated android phone, so why not just sell up and buy a phone with the os you want the most...?
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fair enough, but when i read "so we can get rid of winmo completley" it kind of makes me think your not at all happy with the os. android on hd2 is never going to be the same as having a dedicated android phone, so why not just sell up and buy a phone with the os you want the most...?
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good piont...i was just under the impression that it will run good on android...
what would not run good on it as if it were an android phone itself?
NO NO NO NO NO NO
do we have to have this **** every freaking day
Only 1 or 2 other winmo devices have flashable android roms for them out of over a dozen that have android ports, and it took years of development. And the ports running from nand don't have much of a performance boost, if any. In fact, sometimes the nand versions have less functionality because the ports still use winmo to initialize some hardware until they develop the right drivers to initialize on there own. Thats why some ports for some winmo phones need you to run a 3d app before running haret to get 3d working on android or similar things. The windows kernel is shut down from haret... its not running at the same time as linux. I neer understood why people want to flash over winmo when you could have a phone that runs both. You can have a powerphone that runs 2or 3 os's, or you can have just an android phone that is buggier and less stable than a native android phone. If you want just android and nothing else, why not just get an android phone. I would much rather have a dual booting phone.
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Only 1 or 2 other winmo devices have flashable android roms for them out of over a dozen that have android ports, and it took years of development. And the ports running from nand don't have much of a performance boost, if any. In fact, sometimes the nand versions have less functionality because the ports still use winmo to initialize some hardware until they develop the right drivers to initialize on there own. Thats why some ports for some winmo phones need you to run a 3d app before running haret to get 3d working on android or similar things. The windows kernel is shut down from haret... its not running at the same time as linux. I neer understood why people want to flash over winmo when you could have a phone that runs both. You can have a powerphone that runs 2or 3 os's, or you can have just an android phone that is buggier and less stable than a native android phone. If you want just android and nothing else, why not just get an android phone. I would much rather have a dual booting phone.
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Informative post, thanks.
zarathustrax said:
Only 1 or 2 other winmo devices have flashable android roms for them out of over a dozen that have android ports, and it took years of development. And the ports running from nand don't have much of a performance boost, if any. In fact, sometimes the nand versions have less functionality because the ports still use winmo to initialize some hardware until they develop the right drivers to initialize on there own. Thats why some ports for some winmo phones need you to run a 3d app before running haret to get 3d working on android or similar things. The windows kernel is shut down from haret... its not running at the same time as linux. I neer understood why people want to flash over winmo when you could have a phone that runs both. You can have a powerphone that runs 2or 3 os's, or you can have just an android phone that is buggier and less stable than a native android phone. If you want just android and nothing else, why not just get an android phone. I would much rather have a dual booting phone.
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VERY VERY informative. wow, great info. i did not know that Haret **** down Winmo Kernal. i thought they were both running at same time...
so what your saying, we can run a day to day android system off our SD card for good if we wanted?? would getting a class higher then muy class 2 sd card help alot?
Thanks so much for your info...
dvigue said:
VERY VERY informative. wow, great info. i did not know that Haret **** down Winmo Kernal. i thought they were both running at same time...
so what your saying, we can run a day to day android system off our SD card for good if we wanted?? would getting a class higher then muy class 2 sd card help alot?
Thanks so much for your info...
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Yeah, it will run just as well off our sd card as the nand once they get it stable and working well... that's whats great about these ports. That's why I never understood why people are so gung-ho about getting a rom flash with android... that takes away the beauty of having the android port on a winmo device... you get to pick which os you want to use... you can have apps for both. I love android, but I love winmo, also. Android can't play playstation games, which is my main method of entertainment on my phone... but there are many other games for android... AND WE CAN HAVE BOTH!!!
And yes, I think a faster memory card will speed things up during some processes, but I don't know how noticeable a difference it makes. Probably not that big of a difference, but maybe for certain actions or apps it might if lots of data trasferring is happening.
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Yeah, it will run just as well off our sd card as the nand once they get it stable and working well... that's whats great about these ports. That's why I never understood why people are so gung-ho about getting a rom flash with android... that takes away the beauty of having the android port on a winmo device... you get to pick which os you want to use... you can have apps for both. I love android, but I love winmo, also. Android can't play playstation games, which is my main method of entertainment on my phone... but there are many other games for android... AND WE CAN HAVE BOTH!!!
And yes, I think a faster memory card will speed things up during some processes, but I don't know how noticeable a difference it makes. Probably not that big of a difference, but maybe for certain actions or apps it might if lots of data trasferring is happening.
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What about the increased battery consumption because Android is running off SD card? I for one love having the option of having a dual boot device, but from everything I have read so far, it is not possible to have both Winmo and an Android port installed on the internal memory of the phone. It's either one or the other, is that correct?
nzxtneo said:
What about the increased battery consumption because Android is running off SD card? I for one love having the option of having a dual boot device, but from everything I have read so far, it is not possible to have both Winmo and an Android port installed on the internal memory of the phone. It's either one or the other, is that correct?
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good point...this phone will only last about 3-4 hours with it running of SD
so this will NEVER be able to be flashed?
dvigue said:
this phone will only last about 3-4 hours with it running of SD
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Where did you get that estimate from?
Kalavere said:
Where did you get that estimate from?
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probably from the results of the releases just days ago.
Battery life on the Android ports for the HD2 have come along way in mere days (Along with a bunch of additional improvements). Maybe he is just a little behind on the times.
nzxtneo said:
probably from the results of the releases just days ago.
Battery life on the Android ports for the HD2 have come along way in mere days (Along with a bunch of additional improvements). Maybe he is just a little behind on the times.
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im using the july 22ns zimage with the v5 desire...if i m using the phone, i get maybe 4 hours...sitting there,i get at least 10-15% drop per hour..sitting there..
what do you get? what do you use?
Battery life should improve some with more development, but even the ports that are flashable to nand suffer from poor battery life... we will probably never get nearly as good battery life from an android port as we will with winmo. The port that flashes on the kaiser eats the battery 2-3 times faster during heavy use and eats the battery 7 or 8 times faster during standby. Charging can be very unstable, also... it'll randomly stop.
Once there is a flashable port for the HD2, assuming there will be one eventually, it will probably have less functional hardware at first (may be missing wifi, 3g, bluetooth, camera, or gps for example) because we won't have winmo to initialize the hardware... it will take more development to make a nand port as functional as the "haret" port.
I'm not saying that a good flashable port won't neccessarily happen, but by going on the history of these ports, I wouldn't expect it too soon. But these developers have already surprised me with how functional they have gotten this port so quickly, so they may prove me wrong. I still wouldn't flash over WinMo, though... I like having a phone that can run 2 or more operating systems. I have my 2 favorite mobile os's on one phone!
dvigue said:
im using the july 22ns zimage with the v5 desire...if i m using the phone, i get maybe 4 hours...sitting there,i get at least 10-15% drop per hour..sitting there..
what do you get? what do you use?
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Wow, 4 hours on the newer builds is just awful...
You might wanna try a reformat of your SD card and just start all over. If that doesn't work, maybe look into the type of SD card you are using.
I have tried just about all the releases, but currently I am on:
Desire v5
Zimage 23th Cotulla
HSPL 3
radio 2.12.50.2.2
Miri v17.6 rom
Well, Im a bit new to this, but how many android ports have been developed this quickly? How many have been made with the benefit of an open source kernel and hardware that is very similar to device running android?
Seems the me that the HD2 is a bit of a special case...
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i also asked this question but was told you couldnt "dual-boot". maybe a little insight would help
bubba1114 said:
i also asked this question but was told you couldnt "dual-boot". maybe a little insight would help
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That's exactly why I think the fact he ran Android from SD allowed it. Even then, if its possible id switch back and forth between the two, not try to run both. We'll see tho.. NOTHING is impossible with these crazy lil phones lol
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well to start is there anyway to even port winmo to an android device or something that will wipe android and run just straight winmo because after that would be the easy part
how bout an iphone port?
Nikolai2.1 said:
how bout an iphone port?
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that would be interesting, kinda seems more work then itd be worth from everywhere ive read.
This would be nice, if it was possible, I wouldn't want to get rid of my Eris's.
bubba1114 said:
well to start is there anyway to even port winmo to an android device or something that will wipe android and run just straight winmo because after that would be the easy part
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That's what I'm saying. There's gotta be a way to wipe android off of the phone and start fresh.
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chelsea19 said:
This would be nice, if it was possible, I wouldn't want to get rid of my Eris's.
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Lol Yup! Exactly why I want to see if its possible/probable. Even if I have to pay a dev to see this. Wouldn't mind at all.
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the question would be if anybody would know how to port this or show us where to start
I know one of our great Eris devs HAS to know a starting point
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i just put a post over in the winmo section maybe they could help
bubba1114 said:
i just put a post over in the winmo section maybe they could help
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They prob could. Apparently HTC winmo phones can dualboot android or winmo during the startup... so there has to be a way to dual boot winmo on an HTC android device. I watched a video on YouTube that named 3 different devs that made this happen. Thinking about finding them and asking
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what videos are these? i was able to find the ones that had android running off the sd card and then you were able to choose autoboot fastboot winmo and android?
bubba1114 said:
what videos are these? i was able to find the ones that had android running off the sd card and then you were able to choose autoboot fastboot winmo and android?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata&v=xQUICjVhfAY
That's the one I watched. It's like you said, android on the SD with a winmo phone. Theres an exe that shuts down winmo, and apon reboot you can select either.
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I'm liking that. Anyone winmo port. Anyone
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Well everything that I've read says no developers want to work on this for various reasons.
chelsea19 said:
Well everything that I've read says no developers want to work on this for various reasons.
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Lol ive seen some of your posts, and you clearly hate Android so I know your def trying to find an answer. The HTC tilt2 on tmobile is a winmo phone. Apon running an .exe that shuts off winmo, you can dual boot into either OS. My theory is that if an HTC phone can have its main OS shut down, and run another OS (android) from the SD card, then couldn't an HTC android phone (eris) somehow have android shut off, and then dualboot either winmo from the SD or Android. It seems/sounds like a plausible theory, and really is just the reverse of something that can already be done, but want I need is insight from both OS's devs as to how or why this can work, if at all, and how or where to start. If it can and its an issue of time, id be happy to pay or help in any way possible. I could care less if I mess my phone up, I just want to see a dualboot function for HTC android phones. Doesn't even have to be winmo necessarily (although preferred lol), I've even seen some ppl trying to work on Ubuntu for Eris. The possibilities are endless, its just a matter of figuring out whos capable of starting a project like that.
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i agree 100% ^. but i just think its a matter of time. but in a way theres gotta some way to flash winmo over android. itd be nice to find out how tho. lol
bubba1114 said:
i agree 100% ^. but i just think its a matter of time. but in a way theres gotta some way to flash winmo over android. itd be nice to find out how tho. lol
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I know! I saw your post in the winmo dev general section, even posted to bump it up, but looks like no ones touching it
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Hi I'm trying to desire to keep the HD2 or the Vibrant, help please
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I actually had an hd2 before I got my vibrant and although i would say go for it, I actually recommend you hold on to the hd2 for a little bit, maybe a month or so. Some insane phones are about to release within the next month or so for just about every major carrier. Theres even the second version of the vibrant with front cama nd 4g coing with a few weeks. If you are in an absolute hurry, then yeah get the vibrant.
sharkonland said:
I actually had an hd2 before I got my vibrant and although i would say go for it, I actually recommend you hold on to the hd2 for a little bit, maybe a month or so. Some insane phones are about to release within the next month or so for just about every major carrier. Theres even the second version of the vibrant with front cama nd 4g coing with a few weeks. If you are in an absolute hurry, then yeah get the vibrant.
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No offense, but he said keep the HD2 or Vibrant. Not buy an HD2 or Vibrant. I'd say keep the Vibrant, but then again the HD2 has more custom roms out than the Vibrant. Its probably one of the most developed phone for Android and the funny thing if its not even an Android phone. On the other hand the Vibrant has a gorgeous screen and official Android. It all depends on what you look for in a phone.
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Titosico said:
Hi I'm trying to desire to keep the HD2 or the Vibrant, help please
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it depends what youre into. i would keep the hd2 just because of cm6 and windows phone 7 port. plus the devs already found out a way to boot android straight from NAND instead of having an unstable rom running off the SD card.
personally i would still keep the vibrant just for the super amoled screen and better gaming. im happy just running nero v3 with voodoo atm until a decent dual core tablet come out with data and voice instead of just data
HTC have just posted a new ROM v 3.14.421.2 on their website.
The version number is way higher than the 1.66.42.1 mine is currently running.
Anyone tried it out yet?
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
Mordanius said:
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
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As your signature says: "Desire HD2-7". That combines everything, doesn´t it?
WinMo 6.5 *does* indeed still offer some advantages and software you cannot find on other platforms... but I think the interest for an HTC stock ROM is... close to zero.
Mordanius said:
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
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Yup, I do.
radjanoonan said:
HTC have just posted a new ROM v 3.14.421.2 on their website.
The version number is way higher than the 1.66.42.1 mine is currently running.
Anyone tried it out yet?
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Your stock ROM "1.66.42.1" it's branded.
Mordanius said:
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
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I still use Winmo while using Garmin XT. So, any suggestion for replacement of Garmin XT in WP7 or android?
I am using 3.14.405.2 and its works a lot better than 1.66. I had to upgrade as 1.66 would jam when I received multiple SMS at the same time. I tried 1.72.841.0 but did not like the propriety settings and locks that Telstra (AUS) use.
I also tried Duttys V(14) but it was buggy with Wifi and Youtube, so have gone to 3.14.405.2 and it all works fine.
Now, I am waiting for Windows Embedded Handheld 6.5 as I have custom apps that Windows Phone 7 or Android cannot run.
cheers
Mordanius said:
Just kidding buddy, but do you really think that anybody still uses winmob 6.5 in the great time of windows phone 7 or Android in any version you desire?
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Dont mean to hi-jack but on the side,
Hows 7 going on ur HD2? Did you activate the cloud systems yet or still running on locked one?
where is this new ROM?
[EDIT] Found it in "HTC Middle East & Africa-English"
Can someone send me the direct download link from HTC.
I get the message "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device." and I can't go further with the download.
htc hd2 3.14.421.2 i need this rom help guys......
i have 1 htc hd2 in my phon france lengweg........i want cheng lenweg ....my rom varsson is very hight......
rom varson 3.14.4666
varsion menila 2.5.20181527.0
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spl-33.03.0000 xe
post this rom in this varsion tnx in advance...........
not that anybody cares but i upgraded to the triumph today, it was 229 at walmart and i couldnt pass it up. now dont get me wrong the OV is one hellva workhorse. overclocked its a beast and never broke down. but 4.1" is something i couldnt pass up and the fact that i can play gta is a plus. so thanks to the ov community ie jerry script for i.h.o and obijohn for bumblebee.
peace now on to # the trirumph
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG they have a working miui rom for the triumph. its soooooo pretty. the skins/themes for my ov doesnt do a full MIUI rom justice. OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
What miui rom are you using on the triumph. I've been wanting one but the lack of me being able to find a stable custom rom i like has kept me from it. I really like IHO on my ov
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kwkbnk said:
What miui rom are you using on the triumph. I've been wanting one but the lack of me being able to find a stable custom rom i like has kept me from it. I really like IHO on my ov
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Isaac’s 11/30 MIUI Releas but the honeymoon is over. sure i can over clock the tri to 2.0ghz but everytime the screen is of and i wake it up either the wifi (if connected) or 3g (if connected) says its connected but its not. you have to manually turn off/on either wifi or 3g to get it started again. but going to the pulldown on miui is soooooo prettty i dont mind it...that much.
oh rooting the tri is a breeze all you need to do is download the terminal from the market type in some stuff and its rooted. so no connecting to a pc and installing the sdk
please let us know how u like it in a month