Very often I find myself needing to reset or get around someone's Windows Password, the easiest way of course is with one of many available linux boot cd's that'll edit the windows system hive. However most of the time I'm not carrying this around, I have a USB stick that can be used but I noticed earlier that while my Nexus One was plugged into the USB port on boot it is detected by my bios.
So the question is - Can the android USB interface act as a boot device? If so I assume it'd need a different partition since it's already got an OS?
Anyway just an idea
(Also while I have your attention: 1) Did they ever fix the +1 area code problems with contacts?, 2) Why don't half my contacts show up in Send MMS dialogue (and others)?, 3) How do I tell if I have an SLCD or AMOLED screen cos sometimes the screen looks really crappy (dithering or off colour banding) AND FINALLY 4) can you set notification sounds differently depending on time of day (ie; I don't want a new gmail alert to wake me up at 2am).
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Yes it can. Follow the many instructions to make your storage card into a bootable device. Then insert it into your phone. It all works the same.
Ahh, sorry to resurrect an old thread. Figured it would be better than starting a new one.
I've searched on and off for a few months and came to the conclusion this is not possible. If it is, please point us in the right direction.
Case in point. I have a 16gb microsd in my phone partitioned with 256mb swap, 1gb ext3 and the rest fat32. In a sd card reader it boots the live distro I have on the card on the fat32 partition (along with the rest of my android stuff, side by side). I put the same card in the phone and it is no longer seen as a bootable usb. I've tried this using the disk drive mode in neophyte's latest rom, nextsense, and the mount usb option in clockworkmod. It seems the phone doesn't allow the mbr to be read...
So, once again, I don't mean to start a yes it is, no it's not, etc... But if you are able to point us in the right direction it would be much appreciated. I had all but given up on this.
Thanks
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Ahh, sorry to resurrect an old thread. Figured it would be better than starting a new one.
I've searched on and off for a few months and came to the conclusion this is not possible. If it is, please point us in the right direction.
Case in point. I have a 16gb microsd in my phone partitioned with 256mb swap, 1gb ext3 and the rest fat32. In a sd card reader it boots the live distro I have on the card on the fat32 partition (along with the rest of my android stuff, side by side). I put the same card in the phone and it is no longer seen as a bootable usb. I've tried this using the disk drive mode in neophyte's latest rom, nextsense, and the mount usb option in clockworkmod. It seems the phone doesn't allow the mbr to be read...
So, once again, I don't mean to start a yes it is, no it's not, etc... But if you are able to point us in the right direction it would be much appreciated. I had all but given up on this.
Thanks
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Any luck. I find myself needing 2 of these presently. The increase in mobile repairs I am doing in combination of the normal in the dark windows users I need multiple OSs to get the job done by blunt thirty. If I find anything ill post....
And to OP even though its 2 years old. Windows password bypass can be achomplished simply by hard rebooting a computer during load animation. Select safe mode apon reboot. Sign into admin, reset pass, then PROFIT. At first I thought they fixed it in 8 but just takes an exra step. Pop the bios battery after force shutdown before reboot. Windows security is about as meaning as army intelligence.
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Hi,
I have read all the information pertaining to the rooting of the NT and that is fully understood, however I still have some questions unanswered.
When the SDcard is partionned to 70 mb is the rest of the sd card usable to upload files to? i.e. if I use a 16gb sd card will I be able to use the rest of the card to put files on? If not what is the solution to sideload other files if you have reached the capacity of the NT?
If this was already answered somewhere else, I apologize in advance as I did not see it.
Thank you for your help.
Nathalie
I believe making the rest usable is possible but it will likely be spotty at best.
The best thing to do is to convert it back to a regular, non-bootable, sdcard. Or if you only have windows, use a smaller expendable card.
There are two reasons for this. First, it's easier to keep them seperate. Second, the nook boots to sd by default so as long as you have a bootable sd card in your device you will have to eject it on bootup and put it back in. That seems like too much of a hassle to me.
Either route I think you will need to have a linux os in order to convert the card back. As far as I could see, windows did not even recognize the rest of my card and didn't have any tools to edit the partition table. GParted on linux however allows you to edit the partition table.
Any route you take will require you to wipe the sd card so be sure to make a backup of anything you want to keep.
It is always good to have a machine with linux distro like ubuntu the most common to use gparted, eather by creating a virtual machine on windows (VMware is very good), using a live CD/DVD of ubuntu (but its a slower), installing it with WUBI which will let you run Ubuntu within your current system (it installs as any other application on Windows and uninstalls same way) or by just installing it directly to a PC, that way you don't miss anything .
~ Veronica
Beating a dead horse with this one
See This Thread and I know there were others.
Veronica offerers some good advice regarding getting a Linux Distro up and running. Another is Unetbootin. See my latest post in the thread I linked above.
I have just recently (5 hours ago) purchased a 16GB Tablet, that I had them repartition at the store, which has version 1.4.2.
I've spent the last few hours reading this forum and watching videos and now know WAY more than I ever intended to know about this tablet.
Rooting, dual OP, CM7, CM9, ROM, R3, Restore, etc. etc.
Due to so many warnings I've read about, I'm a little afraid to mess things up.
All I really want to do is install games I already have on my computer to the NT.
There were a couple of threads talking about this, but they were dealing with version 1.4.1. Not 1.4.2. I don't know how much of a difference there is.
Can someone suggest the best way to install these games?
Thanks for all the info you guys provide. It was hours of very informative reading.
i'm pretty sure games need memory ( storage ) and lots of it. tell us how much of the microhcsd you have available. did they leave you with one or six and a half gig ?
Unless you have an android computer/tablet with games from the play store or some other android market, the "games" you are referring to are not as easily transferable to an android tablet like the nook. The games have to be rewritten/redesigned for the android OS.
As for many of the warnings you've read, they are mostly to protect the person writing the guide. I.e. if you somehow manage to not follow directions and screw something up horribly, they want not responsibility for your mistakes. Honestly, 90% of them time in my experience with Android tinkering, Occam's razor holds true: the simplest answer is usually the right answer. And in terms of Android tinkering, that answer is user error.
So if you can read and follow directions and do a bit of troubleshooting here and there, you will be just fine.
My advice? Start with a bootable CM7 sd card. Go from there.
My apologies for lack of info.
After repartition, I was left with 5.91GB for B&N, and 8.00GB Other storage, plus 16GB SD Card.
Regarding games. All the games I want to use are all apk android games that I had from another android product.
Cubanluke88
The Bootable CM7 SD Card will boot from the card and leave the Tablet's OS alone? Is that correct? I guess this is where I'm confused. I think I read too much.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Rooting your device is like removing the old OS and replacing it with a new one?
Booting from CM7 SD Card will boot from the cards OS leaving the original OS on the device?
On one of the video's I watched, it was said "DO NOT FLASH ON THE 16GB Nook". I don't even know what that means, but I'll look it up and see if I can find out.
Thanks so much for helping a newbie who still doesn't know the terminology. I'll concentrate on reading about booting from CM7 SD Card.
Alright I'll try to address most of your confusion.
The bootable SD card essentially means you will not touch the current internal OS. You basically burn an image of CM7 to the card and when that card is inserted, the Nook will boot into CM7 instead of the B&N Android OS.
Rooting does not necessarily mean changing the internal OS. Because the B&N OS is Android based, and because Android is linux based, "root" is sort of the equivalent of administrative access on a Windows machine. It simply means you have full control of the device. Rooting the nook means the OS stays intact, but you can install the play store (Android market) and do all sorts of other things you are otherwise locked out of.
"Flash" is simply a techy way of saying install. When someone says "flash CM7 over the internal OS" they mean that you are installing CM7 (the custom version of Android that has been built) over the internal OS.
The safest thing for you is to create the bootable SD card of CM7 as it does not touch the internal OS. However, you can also create a bootable sd card for the custom recovery. From this custom recovery, you could then "flash" (install) CM7, CM9, or one of the other roms (custom OS) for the Nook tablet. It is also in this custom recovery that you can make a "nandroid backup" which is basically images of how your nook exists in its present form.
I know thats a lot of info. But honestly, before diving into this stuff, people should try to understand as much of that as possible. There are tons of resources out there that explain this stuff. Again, I suggest the bootable CM7 sd card as its the least likely to screw up. However, remember that should you go after the internal stuff, this thing is incredibly difficult to brick. Any mistake you make has likely already been made before and recovered from. So if something goes awry, don't panic.
Thats a lot of words. Damn.
It may have been a lot of words, but you've answered all of my questions and then some. I thank you very much for taking the time. This information helps tremendously and also makes so much more sense of what I read already.
Thanks Again.
That post deserved a thank. Really good description.
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We have started a very good community here, keep up people.
I should add one more thing.
Should you ever decide to go internal, i.e. flashing over the B&N OS, which IMO is the better way, its incredibly easy to return the device back to stock conditions should you ever need to (i.e. for warranty purposes or something).
I've done it myself just to make sure that its possible. And it is. Very easily.
I just wanted to come back and say Thank you!!
I was able to created the Bootable CM7 sd card and it went flawlessly.
I still have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm having fun looking around.
Thanks to this group of wonderful people, especially Cubanluke88m who still take the time to help even the virginal newbies who don't even know the lingo.
My hats off to this forum.
In the future I may in fact do this all internally, but I guess I needed to do it this way first just to see if I could. Now I feel much more comfortable with the files, burning images, etc. then before.
Congrats, enjoy.
The next thing I would recommend doing: make a clockwork mod recovery bootable card and make a nandroid backup of the internal OS.
ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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It's fine, it's always better to ask first. Could save you a lot of trouble in the long run. Unlike lots of other users, you seem like you are willing to search and learn things which is always good!
You can regain the remainder of the storage after writing the CM7 .img to your SD card. To do this in Windows, you'll need to download and install either MiniTool Partition Wizard or EASEUS Partition Master. I usually use Partition Wizard.
Unfortunately, while using the CM7 SD ROM, you won't have access to your apps and books from the stock ROM, so you'll want to transfer them to your storage inside the SD ROM. So I recommend copying the files to your computer, then connect your NT running the SD ROM. From there just copy the files to your SD card.
Ok, I've been at this 3 whole days now and I DO NOT KNOW what I am not doing right.
I have been following the directions that another member on here has been posting on his blog here.
I have been using the updated files from his blog post here and from this thread here.
Anyway. NO MATTER WHAT I DO, I can not get Cyanoboot to load up. I am using the proper tools to format the SD cards, I am creating the partitions correctly. I am making the SD partition bootable or active. I've done it all and to NO AVAIL. I Can't get it working.
Can anyone who has had success (and apparently there are some) doing this PLEASE give me a few steps. I am not Android Retarded, I understand a lot of this stuff, but I am LOST when it comes to this Nook Tablet and getting this to work. It didn't take me this much time to write my rom for my Razr. It's driving me insane.
I don't want to load CWM onto EMMC or flash a rom onto EMMC because this is my girls Nook and she doesn't want it messed with like that, she just want CM9 to boot from SD and to have the regular Nook software on the internal memory for normal bootups.. I know, I know but that's what I have to work with.
Hey, there's no need for profanity. He just wanted to point out something.
I made a boot able CM9 only card not too long ago, just with the instructions from @succulent's blog. It only took me a few minutes without trouble.
Any idea for where you are getting messed up?
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I made a boot able CM9 only card not too long ago, just with the instructions from @succulent's blog. It only took me a few minutes without trouble.
Any idea for where you are getting messed up?
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I wish I knew. I've been following the directions to a T. Once, only once it booted to the cyanoboot screen and then went to the two android screen and hung. I rebooted the tablet and it booted right into nook software straight away. It's like I have some freak tab that won't take. I've tried 3 different sd cards too.
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I wish I knew. I've been following the directions to a T. Once, only once it booted to the cyanoboot screen and then went to the two android screen and hung. I rebooted the tablet and it booted right into nook software straight away. It's like I have some freak tab that won't take. I've tried 3 different sd cards too.
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Well this certainly sounds like the exact problems users have with faulty SD cards. What brands and classes are you using?
And I think XDA has a pretty good reputation...
I've moved and cleaned this thread leaving only the relevant posts. Please do not use profanity against other members however wrong you feel they are. If you feel something is wrong, do not react just use the report button as that's what it's there for.
Thank you.
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I wish I knew. I've been following the directions to a T. Once, only once it booted to the cyanoboot screen and then went to the two android screen and hung. I rebooted the tablet and it booted right into nook software straight away. It's like I have some freak tab that won't take. I've tried 3 different sd cards too.
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Stupid question - have you tried booting with the charging cable plugged in? (Or simply plug in the charging cable when Nook is off.) My nook will only reliably boot anything off SD when plugged in.
Apologies if I missed something obvious.
Just a thought...
Are you sure when you extracted from the ROM zip that the entire file was extracted? I had a problem when I made my CM7 card cause I ran out of memory on my hard drive and only part of the file was unzipped. It took me a while to realize this was the problem and I had the same hang symptoms you describe. Of course I have a really old computer with little hard drive and this is probably unlikely for most, but there you have it. Also something obvious and probably not relevent but r u sure you unzipped the ROM zip files before transferring the ROM files to sd card? I noticed in Succulents instructions that he says "copy" ROM to SD without giving specific instruction to unzip then use tool to transfer to SD card, not drag and drop copy....check your ROM file size, should be over or around 4GB, this might determine if you have full ROM file.
Ok, so noobie mistakes but I made them so just in case!
Also, you have to replace a file in the downloaded ROMS to make the ROMS SD compatible.....could your mistake be in that step?
Just some thoughts...hope you get there soon!
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Nook Tablet won't read internal. When plugging in usb message screen from microsoft windows pops up and says You need to format the disk in drive I: before you can use it. Do you want to format it? First thought it was the external card but popped it out. Not the case. I'm on 1.4.0 and running cm7b. I have never updated from 1.4.0. Are there any benefits to updating to 1.4.3? Everything works fine just won't read internal. Before installing I used meghd00t Repartition, Reformat, Restore and Rescue SDcard to go back to stock. (Still rooted apparently). So installed cwm recovery, cm7b and gapps. No problem reading external card just keep getting that jacked up windows message wanting me to format my nook. Thanks for any help or fixes.
If I was you, I wouldn't listen to anything that Windows has to say. Especially about formatting, that would just erase all your data.
What happens when you choose not to format the disk? Nothing at all?
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If I was you, I wouldn't listen to anything that Windows has to say. Especially about formatting, that would just erase all your data.
What happens when you choose not to format the disk? Nothing at all?
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Hey Solar.Plexus,
Everything on the tablet works just fine so far. I've been away from it for 3 or 4 months. Seems like this happened to me before when I bricked it. It seems as though something is kicked out of it somewhere. For instance when going back to stock and going thru the whole sign in it won't let me register with b&n. Don't care about b&n so that's not a problem. Just thought that was why I was never able to get updates and still stuck at 1.40. I just bypass it with the volume up and tapping the screen. Would like to be able to run CM9 on eMMC and CM7 from microSD. But if it doesn't show up not sure what to do. Appears as blank drive letters. Oh well! I remember you now solar. Seems that I posted something months back about the benefits to update and old_fart mentioned something about there is a little box called search. It was a good fun banter. Apparently you got a kick out of it if I remember right. So help me out here please. Are you on 1.4.3?
Appreciate your input my friend.
I actually haven't used stock ROM for a really long time. I currently have CM9 on eMMC and different SD cards with ROMs to use. Let me know what exact dual boot setup you'd like to use and we'll see if we can get it to work out for you.
Who knows, flashing the new ROM might fix the unreadable problem. Regardless, you could probably still use ADB to transfer files to and from your /mnt/media partition.
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I actually haven't used stock ROM for a really long time. I currently have CM9 on eMMC and different SD cards with ROMs to use. Let me know what exact dual boot setup you'd like to use and we'll see if we can get it to work out for you.
Who knows, flashing the new ROM might fix the unreadable problem. Regardless, you could probably still use ADB to transfer files to and from your /mnt/media partition.
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Sounds like a solid dog deal to me!
Let's try your setup for kicks and see if I can follow along. Not real familiar with Cyanoboot but I know how to push buttons. ADB knowledge a bit limited but somehow manage to figure it out eventually. I'll try not to have too many senior moments with you. I'm ready to crack this puppy open.
Dragging right now so catch up with you later.
Thanks major dude!
Since you already have CWM recovery flashed internally, all you have to do is flash the CM9 ROM and gApps from this post right here to set up your eMMC ROM.
Then to make your CM7 SD ROM, follow the directions under the SD VERSION IMAGE section of this post right here.
After that, you can modify the SD card to use CyanoBoot, the 2nd bootloader. So do this:
1.) Download the CyanoBoot file from this post right here.
2.) Navigate to the first partition (boot partition) of the CM7 SD card you have made.
3.) Replace the old flashing_boot.img with the new flashing_boot.img file you just downloaded.
4.) Done.
Now, anytime you boot up from a completely off state, your NT should* boot from the SD card and go to CyanoBoot, where you can choose which ROM you want to boot into.
*You might need to plug your NT into a wall charger in order to get it to boot from the SD card. Only some NTs require this.
Ok, first off I want to give a big thanks to digixmax for all his help so far! His quick responses have helped me to stay somewhat calm even though I am extremely frustrated right now. I have tried several different ways to root and boot CWM and CM 10.X onto my NT the last few days and nothing seems to be working. I have tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098419, http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/cm10-1-android-4-2-1-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet-0110/, and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529553 all with no success. i have used different cards, usb cables, and ports. i have used mini tool partition manager, acronis, gparted on ubuntu live, and fedora core that i have dual loaded on my laptop. i have downloaded the same files from different sources making sure to keep them separated in case one image is corrupt. and i have tried the preloaded image and built my own files onto a partitioned card making sure the card was set to FAT32 primary active 0x0C LBA and that boot was flagged. if anyone else has a suggestion i am all ears. im not opposed to just rooting into the eMMC either if someone wants to point me in the direction of a link with CM7.X or newer. the last build that i did on my sdcard looked like this (attachment below )
im not sure if anyone will be able to tell me if i did something wrong, maybe by file size? if more info is needed let me know. thanks in advance!
It's unclear to me what you want to do. Do you want to run CM10.x from sd card or install it internally? Or juts root? "Root" does not mea installing an alternative ROM, so it would be good to know what you're after.
If you want to run from sd Iamafanof's images should work. Personally I prefer his Android 4.1. Try it:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/ (It was not among those you said you've tried)
If it's not working, come back with more info on what you actually do and what happens (or doesn't happen).
If trying to install internally that image from Iamafanof can be used as a bootable CWM sd card and you can install CM10.x from there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43871774&postcount=2
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It's unclear to me what you want to do. Do you want to run CM10.x from sd card or install it internally? Or juts root? "Root" does not mea installing an alternative ROM, so it would be good to know what you're after.
If you want to run from sd Iamafanof's images should work. Personally I prefer his Android 4.1. Try it:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/ (It was not among those you said you've tried)
If it's not working, come back with more info on what you actually do and what happens (or doesn't happen).
If trying to install internally that image from Iamafanof can be used as a bootable CWM sd card and you can install CM10.x from there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43871774&postcount=2
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i was trying to root and rom CMsomething. at this point i dont care how it happens so long as something happens. your right i havent tried booting CM 10 and was actually looking for the version you posted. i read it was a good ver of CM to run on the NT. something that just started happening this morning when i use win32diskimager as admin a box pops up saying File error an error occured while accessing the device. This usually means that something else is accessing the device, please close all applications and try again. Error 1. Incorrect function. not sure what this is about. anyways ill try CM10 from that link and let post back later. thanks!
Make sure any file explorer is closed. That's what usually prompts that error for me. (I insert my card adapter, and the file explorer tries to access it.)
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Make sure any file explorer is closed. That's what usually prompts that error for me. (I insert my card adapter, and the file explorer tries to access it.)
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ok that helped some. its now saying write successful again. i tried the first link you gave me for iamafanof and that didnt work either, it still booted straight to stock. i guess im going to try flashing it to the internal memory. i cant believe how much trouble this is giving me, ive never had near this much trouble rooting and flashing with any phone ive ever touched. with the phones i may have been down a day or two trying to find a solution but today is going on day 4 or 5 that i have been trying to do this. time to try an alt route i guess. quick q, if i were to try and downgrade firmware from 1.4.3 do you think that that would help? has anyone tried this?
Having it installed internally is so much more convenient!
But before you give up on booting from sd, have you tried turning the NT off, inserting the sd card, and then plug it in to the charger? That usually gets even troublesome devices to boot from sd.
Edit: Version of stock firmaware makes no difference at all.
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Having it installed internally is so much more convenient!
But before you give up on booting from sd, have you tried turning the NT off, inserting the sd card, and then plug it in to the charger? That usually gets even troublesome devices to boot from sd.
Edit: Version of stock firmaware makes no difference at all.
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ok thanks i was hoping it would make some kind of difference. i have tried booting the NT with the power button, with it off insert sd and then jump start it with my stock cable and other usb cables. i have tried different usb ports on my computer with the cables and still nothing. i have been reading for days and trying everything. ive looked on xda, tabletroms, as well as many other sites that have dev support for the NT and rooting. thats why its so frustrating. im done i think with trying to boot off of the sd card. just going to have to start researching doing it by internal memory. i dont really care either way if i keep the stock software i think i would just be happy with even an early version of froyo or eclair at this point lol. if anyone cares to post links on rooting and installing roms on the eMMC or has any other suggestions about booting from the sd im open for suggestions. thanks guys for your help so far.
You say you've tried different ports on the computer but I told you to connect it to the charger. And also, just to make sure, you do use a class 4 card? SanDisk seems to be the preferred brand.
And I've already posted a link to my instructions.
If you can't boot from SD card any modification will be difficult so you need to get that part sorted.
Edit: And I also take it you are absolutely sure you have a Tablet and not a Color? Model 250A. I ask because it's not uncommon people mix them up.
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