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Well I [finally] got my Touch Pro yesterday at Verizon. Pissed at the RAM issue, I was hoping mine wouldn't be as noticeable (the lag).
I've been messing around with it, installing stuff, etc.. I've got a few questions though.
How can I disable the Wake On New SMS? The registry key isn't there and it's really bothering me.
I'd like to know how I can tweak it to run faster and less laggy, also. Considering the Wake on sms reg key wasn't on my VZW stock ROM, I didn't feel like bothering to look for other stuff because I didn't think it would be there.
Also, is there an extended battery for the VZW TP??
My battery did not last that long. It was down to around 20% after 15 hours (With slightly heavy use in the morning). Is there a battery that [preferably] doesn't need an extended back cover?
And how many of you would recommend returning mine and getting/hacking the Sprint one to work with Verizon? Is it a hard process? Doesn't seem it. i'm debating doing that, because this lag and stuff is just bull****.
Thanks in advance
I dont own a touch pro, but generally when windows doesn't have a reg key it'll default to some predetermined setting. So, my advice is to try creating the key and setting the sms setting you want. You have nothing to lose. If it doesnt work just delete the key you made.
Yeah I guess I'll try that later. Not really sure how.
I'm leaning towards getting the sprint one and switching it over to VZW.
Anyone know where/how I can get it for the, like, $300 I've seen? Or do I need to pay full $5xx for it?
Been reading this tutorial (link) on how to do it. People recommend using Live Search Cashback to get it in the $300s. Anyone have and info on what that actually is? Sorry for the noob-ish question, but I've never heard of Live Search Cashback before, lol.
Google is your friend.
I'm guessing this is what they refer to. http://search.live.com/cashback
Sweet! Thanks, I can't believe I never noticed this before. I'm sure I'll be using this a LOT now. Lol.
Well, thanks for that part.
Anyone have any feedback on using the sprint over vzw on vzw's network?
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Oh my God. The sprint has a white-ish silvery back and chrome sides.
NO WAY. NO.
That just completely turned my thoughts around on this.
Unless, can you switch out the faceplate for one with black instead of chrome and get a replacement black battery cover?
I currently have an HTC Desire Z and I really want the Thunderbolt, but all my android phones thus far have had a full slide out keyboard and I'm just not sure if I can do without one. Has anyone else switched from a phone with a keyboard to the Thunderbolt?
What is your experience?
I switched over from the original Droid. The change hasn't been bad at all, with swype or even the stock HTC keyboard, it's about the same. The only thing having to look at your phone to type.
I switched over from the original Droid. But then again I think I used the keyboard on the Droid about twice before realizing the on-screen board was monumentally better and never slid it open again.
I switched over from original Droid, I used to love the physical keyboard. But this screen is so accurate and big I've found the on screen keyboard to be more effecient and even in portrait mode its ridiculously accurate. I never plan on going back to a physical keyboard.
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You wont regret
you wont regret the switch extremely accurate.
My last 5 phones had a slide out keyboard, so I was worried about the switch, but it really isn't bad. It takes some getting used to, and I have to look at the phone to type. I also can't type as fast. I think when I type too fast, it tries to change letters I pressed thinking it was a mistake. Other than that, it isn't bad.
I switched from a tp2 and I love it. The landscape keyboard is almost bigger then the tp2's slider!
Own both Samsung Epic 4G with slide out keyboard and HTC Thunderbolt. I needed the slide out keyboard for the rare times that I'm oncall and need to use the phone as a laptop replacement to VPN and RDP otherwise touch is fine for casual use the rest of the time. HTC Thunderbolt's touch is much more precise than the Samsung Epic 4G.
This is my first ever keypadless phone. I've had the Tilt2 on ATT since it came out, and its predecessor, and several other phones, always with physical keyboards.
Now I'm just thinking what an idiot I've been. Swype is simply AMAZING. After just 3 days using swype, I'm already faster typing than I ever was with physical keys on any phone.
Never going to look back, and I doubt you will either.
I came from the original Droid and was worried I would miss the physical keyboard...which I used often. Honestly...I haven't had any issues. Flipping the phone to landscape gives you a nice sized keyboard. Although I don't know if its me or my screen but I seem to have trouble type the letter Y.
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I have a friend who moved to the EVO from her blackberry and has been loving the move so far. Plus she's using swype, which I think greatly helps the switch once you get the handle on how to use swype. Figured it was worth mentioning as it's effectively the same size phone/platform.
Yes, there is definitely a learning curve, but I have had mine since thursday and I seem to be getting the hang of a slate. I came from the D2 and had the TP2 before that. The speed of the phone definitely makes up for the lack of HW KB.
rajuabju said:
This is my first ever keypadless phone. I've had the Tilt2 on ATT since it came out, and its predecessor, and several other phones, always with physical keyboards.
Now I'm just thinking what an idiot I've been. Swype is simply AMAZING. After just 3 days using swype, I'm already faster typing than I ever was with physical keys on any phone.
Never going to look back, and I doubt you will either.
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QFT. There is no reason to use anything but swype.
Also, I cannot for the life of me use a phone with a keyboard after having a touchscreen only phone. Had a friend get the evo shift and he used the keyboard once, and never touched it again.
Wow, wasn't expecting this much response. But thanks for all the input and it sounds like the opinions are all the same across the board. Probably will be making the switch soon, plus it will be nice to be back on Verizon. Thanks so much.
(Typed the whole reply with my on screen keyboard lol)
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rajuabju said:
This is my first ever keypadless phone. I've had the Tilt2 on ATT since it came out, and its predecessor, and several other phones, always with physical keyboards.
Now I'm just thinking what an idiot I've been. Swype is simply AMAZING. After just 3 days using swype, I'm already faster typing than I ever was with physical keys on any phone.
Never going to look back, and I doubt you will either.
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So this phone does have swype?
adamhlj said:
So this phone does have swype?
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It doesn't come preinstalled from what I could tell from the in store model I played with. You can always install it yourself. Though apparently some people are having issues w/ spacing from what I read on another thread in this forum, probably worth looking into that to see if there is a fix yet.
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Wow, wasn't expecting this much response. But thanks for all the input and it sounds like the opinions are all the same across the board. Probably will be making the switch soon, plus it will be nice to be back on Verizon. Thanks so much.
(Typed the whole reply with my on screen keyboard lol)
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you just have to try other keyboard phones in the market, at this time theres only the droid 2 thats comparable to my og droid on verizon. the epic 4g is nice but i cant go to sprint. the phone's screen is so large it makes it easy. the only problem is that with my og droid i could type under the the table no problem if i had to send a message out, but with this i have to look at the screen.
My first smart phone was the samsung sch-i760, loved the hw keyboard, that's why I moved on to the tp2 afterwards. To be honest, the tp2 shows absolutely no wear after using swype. As soon a you get used to swype you'll wonder how you ever got along without it.
Bummer the thunderbolt didn't come with swype but the evo version is working fine for me now, but I do like the beta layout more to be honest. In due time I spose
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I switched over from an OG Droid running 2.3, and therefore a Gingerbread keyboard. I really loved my QWERTY, but now, I'm getting the hang of the on screen keyboard. I installed the 2.3 keyboard .apk and typing just kinda flows. It's different, but it's fluid. The switch is worth it in the end.
I came from OG Droid and it was smooth and great. always used touch screen on d1 anyways.
has anyone got a working version of swype yet? my beta copy still has spacing bug. or was beta updated? didnt want to install swype installer and go through all that if someone knows.
Hello all,
I'm trying to decide between the Amaze and the SGII from Telus, and the most important thing to me is the size of the keys and how well both work in landscape mode. I have large hands, and I will be doing a lot of texting and e-mailing from my phone as I do use my phones as business tools as well. It doesn't matter that one might have a slightly better camera than the other, or that one is a slightly superior movie viewing experience. I have always had physical keyboards, so it will take some getting used to lifting my thumbs between each keystroke already.
The dealers around where I live have all been reluctant to let me see both side by side, but it seems to me that the Amaze, despite being a smaller screen, actually has larger keys in landscape mode. Is anyone able to confirm this? Thanks to any that can shed light on this.
Telus dealer's should have no problem letting you see them side by side. At first they didn't want to let me handle either one of them but when I told them that I'm not about to sign a 3 year contract without looking at what I'm getting they agreed and allowed me to play with both.
As to your question, it seems to me that the Telus keyboard is bigger and easier to manage, but since that wasn't the focus of what I was looking at, I'm just going from (a rather poor) memory. I'd go back to a store and TELL them you want to see both phones.
Yeah the Telus I went to they let me try out the Amaze. They got one from the back that wasn't connected to anything. They just handed it to me and left me alone to play with it. I could have just ran out with a working phone. I compared the two but I never tried landscape. I would think the Samsung has a bigger keyboard because the screen is bigger, the resolution is lower so things are stretched out more.
i just got my amaze from telus (upgrading from desire hd) and i notice a HUGE difference in the ease of the keyboard. number 1 the duel core makes it keep up as i type fast, unlike the ****ty 1ghrtz on the DHD which wud be a bit behind, and the letters blow up a bit bigger to i think cause im finding it MUCH easier to type on the amaze. oh ya the swipe keyboard is awesome to once you get the hang of it
Thanks for the info guys. For some reason they always put one away before taking the other one out. Maybe I look like I'm going to take one and run out, guess I'll have to be more insistent.
I also noticed that the Samsung's keyboard doesn't have a comma, that you have to go to the # screen to get to it. I'm guessing that I'll be able to find one on the market that has it.
sixfoot7 said:
Thanks for the info guys. For some reason they always put one away before taking the other one out. Maybe I look like I'm going to take one and run out, guess I'll have to be more insistent.
I also noticed that the Samsung's keyboard doesn't have a comma, that you have to go to the # screen to get to it. I'm guessing that I'll be able to find one on the market that has it.
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Are you sure the comma isn't somewhere on the keyboard above one of the other letters? I know that at first on the Amaze keyboard I was going into the # screen to get to the question mark, then I realized that I can press and hold the "k" to get the question mark. Samsung may be similar. Have a look.
marleyfan61 said:
Are you sure the comma isn't somewhere on the keyboard above one of the other letters? I know that at first on the Amaze keyboard I was going into the # screen to get to the question mark, then I realized that I can press and hold the "k" to get the question mark. Samsung may be similar. Have a look.
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There probably is one that's a long press, I meant a dedicated key without having to resort to a long press. Guess it's just one of those things I'm going to get used to coming from a physical keyboard.
Oh, and thanks for mentioning the question mark. Now I'm going to obsess about looking for an easy way to get to that
sixfoot7 said:
There probably is one that's a long press, I meant a dedicated key without having to resort to a long press. Guess it's just one of those things I'm going to get used to coming from a physical keyboard.
Oh, and thanks for mentioning the question mark. Now I'm going to obsess about looking for an easy way to get to that
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Coming from a physical keyboard can be difficult. I came from a physical keyboard (samsung slide) to touch on the Hero. I never really got used to it on that phone. The keys were so small even in landscape. I'm finding a huge difference with the Amaze. Way easier on the bigger screen.
I'm hoping the larger keys will make the transition. Thanks for your input. I see you're from the greatest city in the world (yes I'm a Surrey boy). It was the Apex in Langley, and the Telus store by the WalMart on 64th that didn't want me to see both at the same time.
I went to Best Buy and they let me see both side by side after a little coaxing. And yeah....I'm not too proud to admit I'm from Surrey. Not all of us are riot crashers.
Went back to Apex, finally got someone to show me both. The SGII's landscape keyboard is bigger than the Amaze's, about 3x2 mm bigger. Enough of a difference for me. In portrait mode, not even close, the SGII's was about 20% larger. Might actually be useable for me and my monster hands. The Amaze's camera was definitely better, but I was surprised to see some shooting modes missing that the T-mo version has.
I'd be happy with either, I'm sure, but I have to go with the SGII for the larger keyboards. Thanks to those who lent their input, I appreciate it.
Amaze Keyboard
Just thought I'd suggest the "Gingerbread Keyboard" from Steven Lin on the market.
Honestly one of the best keyboards I've ever used, coming from the MT4G.
Haven't had a chance to try it on the Amaze but will do sometime soon.
Let me know if you like it any better or if it even works on the Amaze.
nguyendqh said:
Just thought I'd suggest the "Gingerbread Keyboard" from Steven Lin on the market.
Honestly one of the best keyboards I've ever used, coming from the MT4G.
Haven't had a chance to try it on the Amaze but will do sometime soon.
Let me know if you like it any better or if it even works on the Amaze.
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I had a look at that keyboard on my Amaze and it actually makes the keys smaller. Particularly in portrait. The bonus to that keyboard though is the addition of a row along the top with all the punctuation. That is a useful feature. Too bad it was added at the expense of key size.
marleyfan61 said:
I had a look at that keyboard on my Amaze and it actually makes the keys smaller. Particularly in portrait. The bonus to that keyboard though is the addition of a row along the top with all the punctuation. That is a useful feature. Too bad it was added at the expense of key size.
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Oh really? That sucks. =( I do like that keyboard a lot.
Been using it for a year already on my MT4G. I do love the punctuation though.
The word selection comes easier for me too. Auto correct I mean.
I also like that after selecting a word it automatically spaces for me to start
typing my next word. And spacing twice puts a period. Holding enter brings up smiley faces. The list goes on. I may install on my Amaze anyway and see how I like it.
Thanks for the feedback though.
Is there an app or some mod that will help me with my horrible typing? I guess I'm not very coordinated or just plain sloppy with my typing. Common words are nit = not, ta = ya, haven't = gaven't and so on. The letters are close together and it seems like my words are butchered pretty often.
What would be neat would be some way to reverse the suggested words that pop up. Is there some way to make commonly mistyped words replaced with pre-stored words and have the actual word as a suggestion? Kind of similar to the user dictionary?
The best thing I've found for this is a keyboard app named SwiftKey X. I thought I'd never give up my Swype but I tried this and never went back. I can make a mess of every word I type and it somehow seems to get the words right. Only problem is, I get to relying on it for correcting my mistakes too much and quit paying attention to what I typed and that's about the time it misses. Send an odd SMS once a while. lol. Only way to find out if it's right for you is to try it. It's not free but it does have a 30 day free trial.
Cool. I'll give it a try. At this point, anything will help.
+1 on swiftkey. Its a great app. I just wish it had more theme support.
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SwiftKey is great. I use it exclusively.
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+1 for SwiftkeyX for me as well. Definitely worth the price.
i'd like to recommend Go Keyboard. It's free and I found it to be much faster than SwiftKeyX, which I've also used extensively (ran the beta back on my OG Droid all that time ago)
^I have also been using GO Keyboard. For some reason I have to reselect it after I reboot(otherwise it reverts to the GB keyboard).
Smart Keyboard is also worth checking out.
After much deliberation I finally returned my DNA today, but not for the reasons many of you might suspect. I have unlimited data, and I'm a power user and run off pure 4g all day. I didnt care about the sd card since I rely on google music/netflix/youtube/PlayOn for all my entertainment. Coming from the thunderbolt the DNA's battery life was a breath of fresh air. I would keep the DNA mounted in a tablet stand next to my desk all day running at full bright, surfing constantly. During lunch I'd watch a solid hour of netflix. I stream slacker to and from work. I always keep gps/bluetooth on and have multiple sync services running such as gmail, twitter, etc. By the time I get home my phone usually has 25% life, and thats without any charging. This is a huge win for me since the thunderbolt requires constant charging.
However the problems for me were the lack of kickstand (i dont like cellphone cases and keep mine naked at all times), and the lack of car docking ability. I kept forgetting to bring my tablet stand with me during lunch and I'd have to watch movies with the damn thing flat on the table. Without Qi car docks I have to stick my phone in the cupholder, where I can only see about half of the screen and have to let it bounce and bang around while I drive.
Finally there was the lack of openness. Verizon really boned us on the locked bootloader, and it seems like all the rooting material out there has about a 50% chance of bricking your device, not a risk I'm willing to take. So I fired my TB back up and felt right at home. Ad-blocking, wifi tether, customized quick settings, and a safe s-off method. I was at home again. The DNA was a great phone, but it wasnt enough of a TB killer to warrant the upgrade. The TB is still fine in my books and I plan to get some more good life out of it. I must say I got REALLY addicted to using the LG wireless charging pad, so I decided to buy a couple of OEM thunderbolt docks for my home/office desks so that I can quickly dock/undock in a similar fashion to the LG pad. Plus my phone will now charge in kickstand mode
......waiting for SGS4 now hehehe..
50% Chance? I'm wondering where in the world you came up with that info. Seems to me you are just uncomfortable with what is involved to unlock. And that's the reason you returned it.
Or we could go with the car/cup holder theory and docking..... but that's more of a simple fix......
If you know how to use adb and the sdk-tools, which you should if you plan to do any kind of modding, then you should have no problem unlocking the bootloader. That's the only concern that might have been worth returning it for. Otherwise its a great phone.
Understandable. U need to enjoy what u purchased. U don't like it, u return it. I wouldn't keep something I don't like either. I did the same thing with the Droid Eris and got the Google Nexus instead.
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If you skim through the unlocking threads there are numerous complaints about people bricking their devices. I dont know what their experience levels are, but this is far above the norm for any new device. Seems to me the dev's released their tools a little too prematurely. I'm sure it will get better in time, to the point of a one-click which is what everyone always wants. But I paid full retail for this device, and there's no way I was risking a brick because my computer hiccup'd during an adb push or because I hit a wrong button and rebooted twice or some other cardinal sin and be completely screwed. I'm all for flashing the hell out of my phones so long as there's a failsafe. But bricking? I dont think so. Like I said, it just needs time to mature.
The car dock stuff is very true however. I hate ugly gaudy clunky looking universal mounts, with their 3 or more brackets required to grip the phone. Plus the dna has that difficult to remove rubber cover on the port that I'm sure will fall off from repeated use. In the morning before going to work I dont have time to manhandle a car mount. I want to just pop the phone in and go, like I could with my TB mount. But with no sign of Qi car chargers on the horizon, and the actual written specs for the designs only released in october, it could be quite some time before we see them, if at all. I'm sure there's like 0 demand for Qi car chargers at the moment so it's a tough sell to bring to market.
I probably wont be looking at any phones at all for a very long time, even the SGS4 that I hinted at, because I'm sure they'll all suffer the same shortcomings. No OEM docks and no Qi car chargers.
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If you skim through the unlocking threads there are numerous complaints about people bricking their devices. I dont know what their experience levels are, but this is far above the norm for any new device. Seems to me the dev's released their tools a little too prematurely. I'm sure it will get better in time, to the point of a one-click which is what everyone always wants. But I paid full retail for this device, and there's no way I was risking a brick because my computer hiccup'd during an adb push or because I hit a wrong button and rebooted twice or some other cardinal sin and be completely screwed. I'm all for flashing the hell out of my phones so long as there's a failsafe. But bricking? I dont think so. Like I said, it just needs time to mature.
The car dock stuff is very true however. I hate ugly gaudy clunky looking universal mounts, with their 3 or more brackets required to grip the phone. Plus the dna has that difficult to remove rubber cover on the port that I'm sure will fall off from repeated use. In the morning before going to work I dont have time to manhandle a car mount. I want to just pop the phone in and go, like I could with my TB mount. But with no sign of Qi car chargers on the horizon, and the actual written specs for the designs only released in october, it could be quite some time before we see them, if at all. I'm sure there's like 0 demand for Qi car chargers at the moment so it's a tough sell to bring to market.
I probably wont be looking at any phones at all for a very long time, even the SGS4 that I hinted at, because I'm sure they'll all suffer the same shortcomings. No OEM docks and no Qi car chargers.
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I'm in no way trying to change your mind, as I just came from a Rezound with a dock at work, at home, and car mount/dock and I definitely enjoyed them.
However in the wireless charging thread in the accessories section, there was a post by a iBOLT guy stating that they were working on a Qi car mount/dock. Just a heads up. :thumbup:
Here's a link to his post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34620722
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I'm sorry, I can't help myself, but the DNA isn't a TB killer? Are you kidding?
LOL, EVERY high-end phone that has come out since the TB was a TB killer.
(....my $.02 and, of course YMMV)
rfarrah said:
I'm sorry, I can't help myself, but the DNA isn't a TB killer? Are you kidding?
LOL, EVERY high-end phone that has come out since the TB was a TB killer.
(....my $.02 and, of course YMMV)
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I completely agree with the OP. I had a TB (with extended battery), and I preferred using it over the S3, MAXX HD, and DNA. None of those phones were worthy of an upgrade to the TB, IMO.
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I completely agree with the OP. I had a TB (with extended battery), and I preferred using it over the S3, MAXX HD, and DNA. None of those phones were worthy of an upgrade to the TB, IMO.
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Uh... Why are you still here then?
Idk why these threads are made but hey why not okay the not worth the upgrade from the tb made me laugh so hard my gf hit me cause I woke her .. gpu ,cpu screen reactiveness I mean it blows most phones away wait no all phones next to the nexus 4 in most areas DNA was better or ties even rendering a much higher resolution . Unless you wait for the s4 by your standard why get a glass on glass device u need to handle with kid gloves .... But the rooting method isn't there a one click now , s off I'm sure will come but if u absolutely need to flash now u can get the 8 gig no expadable mem or wait the 6-8 weeks in the play store for the 16 gig :banghead:
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After much deliberation I finally returned my DNA today, but not for the reasons many of you might suspect. I have unlimited data, and I'm a power user and run off pure 4g all day. I didnt care about the sd card since I rely on google music/netflix/youtube/PlayOn for all my entertainment. Coming from the thunderbolt the DNA's battery life was a breath of fresh air. I would keep the DNA mounted in a tablet stand next to my desk all day running at full bright, surfing constantly. During lunch I'd watch a solid hour of netflix. I stream slacker to and from work. I always keep gps/bluetooth on and have multiple sync services running such as gmail, twitter, etc. By the time I get home my phone usually has 25% life, and thats without any charging. This is a huge win for me since the thunderbolt requires constant charging.
However the problems for me were the lack of kickstand (i dont like cellphone cases and keep mine naked at all times), and the lack of car docking ability. I kept forgetting to bring my tablet stand with me during lunch and I'd have to watch movies with the damn thing flat on the table. Without Qi car docks I have to stick my phone in the cupholder, where I can only see about half of the screen and have to let it bounce and bang around while I drive.
Finally there was the lack of openness. Verizon really boned us on the locked bootloader, and it seems like all the rooting material out there has about a 50% chance of bricking your device, not a risk I'm willing to take. So I fired my TB back up and felt right at home. Ad-blocking, wifi tether, customized quick settings, and a safe s-off method. I was at home again. The DNA was a great phone, but it wasnt enough of a TB killer to warrant the upgrade. The TB is still fine in my books and I plan to get some more good life out of it. I must say I got REALLY addicted to using the LG wireless charging pad, so I decided to buy a couple of OEM thunderbolt docks for my home/office desks so that I can quickly dock/undock in a similar fashion to the LG pad. Plus my phone will now charge in kickstand mode
......waiting for SGS4 now hehehe..
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You're gonna do what you're gonna do, and it's important to be happy with your device. But seriously, these are really stupid reasons for returning a device. Lack of a kickstand? Seriously? Prop it up against a book like everyone else does. Or get a case with a kickstand. Or use a cassette tape box. Or just hold it up yourself. There are many exceedingly easy solutions to this problem that don't make you look like the laziest person on the planet. Car docks are coming; you can't expect a brand new device only offered on one carrier to have a plethora of third-party support right out of the gate.
There is most certainly not a 50% chance of bricking your device. There's an 100% chance of bricking it if you do something stupid. If you follow directions, your risk is very slim. And again, the device has been out for less than a month. Stop being so damn impatient and let the devs work. The fact that we already have some roms trickling out is quite impressive in my book. They'll have a foolproof method out before you know it.
Honestly, after seeing thread after thread about how "awful" the battery supposedly is and how the lack of an SD slot is "inexcusable" (despite the fact that Google and Apple have omitted this for years now), this thread is sort of refreshing - it's nice having new, even less legitimate complaints to pick apart.
anti09 said:
You're gonna do what you're gonna do, and it's important to be happy with your device. But seriously, these are really stupid reasons for returning a device. Lack of a kickstand? Seriously? Prop it up against a book like everyone else does. Or get a case with a kickstand. Or use a cassette tape box. Or just hold it up yourself. There are many exceedingly easy solutions to this problem that don't make you look like the laziest person on the planet. Car docks are coming; you can't expect a brand new device only offered on one carrier to have a plethora of third-party support right out of the gate.
There is most certainly not a 50% chance of bricking your device. There's an 100% chance of bricking it if you do something stupid. If you follow directions, your risk is very slim. And again, the device has been out for less than a month. Stop being so damn impatient and let the devs work. The fact that we already have some roms trickling out is quite impressive in my book. They'll have a foolproof method out before you know it.
Honestly, after seeing thread after thread about how "awful" the battery supposedly is and how the lack of an SD slot is "inexcusable" (despite the fact that Google and Apple have omitted this for years now), this thread is sort of refreshing - it's nice having new, even less legitimate complaints to pick apart.
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angry much? Much rather have someone return a device that doesn't make them happy, than to sit on here everyday and complain about a device's perceived shortcomings.
And my wife still rocks the Tbolt and has no problems with it. It works for her (at least until spring when its upgrade time).
RunNgun42 said:
After much deliberation I finally returned my DNA today, but not for the reasons many of you might suspect. I have unlimited data, and I'm a power user and run off pure 4g all day. I didnt care about the sd card since I rely on google music/netflix/youtube/PlayOn for all my entertainment. Coming from the thunderbolt the DNA's battery life was a breath of fresh air. I would keep the DNA mounted in a tablet stand next to my desk all day running at full bright, surfing constantly. During lunch I'd watch a solid hour of netflix. I stream slacker to and from work. I always keep gps/bluetooth on and have multiple sync services running such as gmail, twitter, etc. By the time I get home my phone usually has 25% life, and thats without any charging. This is a huge win for me since the thunderbolt requires constant charging.
However the problems for me were the lack of kickstand (i dont like cellphone cases and keep mine naked at all times), and the lack of car docking ability. I kept forgetting to bring my tablet stand with me during lunch and I'd have to watch movies with the damn thing flat on the table. Without Qi car docks I have to stick my phone in the cupholder, where I can only see about half of the screen and have to let it bounce and bang around while I drive.
Finally there was the lack of openness. Verizon really boned us on the locked bootloader, and it seems like all the rooting material out there has about a 50% chance of bricking your device, not a risk I'm willing to take. So I fired my TB back up and felt right at home. Ad-blocking, wifi tether, customized quick settings, and a safe s-off method. I was at home again. The DNA was a great phone, but it wasnt enough of a TB killer to warrant the upgrade. The TB is still fine in my books and I plan to get some more good life out of it. I must say I got REALLY addicted to using the LG wireless charging pad, so I decided to buy a couple of OEM thunderbolt docks for my home/office desks so that I can quickly dock/undock in a similar fashion to the LG pad. Plus my phone will now charge in kickstand mode
......waiting for SGS4 now hehehe..
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While everyone is entitled to their opinions I have to disagree. I came from a Thunderbolt as well. While I do miss the kickstand, the Thunderbolt is a single core battery hog that has no official support beyond Gingerbread. The Liquid ICS was great but had a lot of bugs that will never get fixed. Data drops, garbled text, blank webpages... I couldn't ever go back from this quad-core Jelly Bean beast.
I'll agree that the difficulty of getting s-off on this phone is a major bummer right now, but I can live with it. Rooting it isn't really risky or that difficult. In fact, it's easier to root the DNA that it was my Thunderbolt what I first did it. I'm confident the great devs on here will crack it in time.
Threads like these make me wish one click root/unlocks were never released. Having to actually understand what you are doing will weed out the real power users from the ones who think they need to root because they can't live in a locked down environment.
I don't know why we are all trying to point out things that the OP listed as flawed, it's his $$ and his decision.
drumz0rz said:
While everyone is entitled to their opinions I have to disagree. I came from a Thunderbolt as well. While I do miss the kickstand, the Thunderbolt is a single core battery hog that has no official support beyond Gingerbread. The Liquid ICS was great but had a lot of bugs that will never get fixed. Data drops, garbled text, blank webpages... I couldn't ever go back from this quad-core Jelly Bean beast.
I'll agree that the difficulty of getting s-off on this phone is a major bummer right now, but I can live with it. Rooting it isn't really risky or that difficult. In fact, it's easier to root the DNA that it was my Thunderbolt what I first did it. I'm confident the great devs on here will crack it in time.
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I too came from the Thunderbolt and your right the DNA is a OMG upgrade. And yes I miss the kickstand.
The OP can return his/her phone for whatever reasons he or she deems reasonable. I hope your next phone is the phone of your dreams. Would I return my DNA for the same reasons? Not a chance in heaven or hades. My old phone was a Samsung Captivate on AT&T. My new DNA takes my old Captivate in the back beats it up beyond all repair. The DNA is a MAJOR upgrade. Its not a prefect phone, but man is it awesome.
this thread is about as useless as my nipples
RunNgun42 said:
If you skim through the unlocking threads there are numerous complaints about people bricking their devices. I dont know what their experience levels are, but this is far above the norm for any new device. Seems to me the dev's released their tools a little too prematurely. I'm sure it will get better in time, to the point of a one-click which is what everyone always wants. But I paid full retail for this device, and there's no way I was risking a brick because my computer hiccup'd during an adb push or because I hit a wrong button and rebooted twice or some other cardinal sin and be completely screwed. I'm all for flashing the hell out of my phones so long as there's a failsafe. But bricking? I dont think so. Like I said, it just needs time to mature.
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This part is not opion, and I think you're wayyy off the mark. If you think the DNA has more bricked device threads, you are very confused my friend. My S3 has full unlock capability, yet has many many many many many more brick threads than you guys do. Every device I have owned had more than the DNA.
All devices will have multitudes of brick threads, and many many more. People are lazy, want one-clicks, don't wanna understand what they're doing, and brick their devices. Its a fact of nature. Not "far from the norm" at all.
Its his personal opinion jeez, let him breath. We all spend money for retarded reasons on newer phones so we can break them in a sense. If the guy is specific on where hos money is being thrown he has every bit of entitlement to do so. Is the post necessary? No but if everyone had an issue with it they should just not post and bring it back to the top. If you have something to add then do so respectfully. Were all grown ups here, c'mon guys.
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