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My fiance and I both got thunderbolts a few months ago. My phone keeps losing the network connection. The 3G icon completely disappears from the status bar but the signal bars remain and have a few bars of signal. If I try to do anything when the phone is like this I get a no network connection error. Mine does this about every 10 minutes for about 5 seconds. i can have my phone laying right beside hers on the table and hers holds solid 3G and mine doesnt.
I have called verizon tech support 2 times about this and the second time they want to open a trouble ticket because they think its an issue with the network. I think I have a bad phone and would just like them to replace it. Anyone else seen this happen and can shed some light on it?
What kind of battery cover do you have? Only reason I ask is that the actual antenna for 3g/4g is on the battery cover itself.
You could get a signal boost if you put aluminum foil in your battery cover, not covering the camera holes of course. The 2 gold connections on the top of your phone in the back are the connectors for the antenna on the back cover. So by putting aluminum foil on the cover you are basically extending the antenna or if you put aluminum on the gold it might bridge a small gap that is preventing conductivity between the antenna and the contacts.
Hope this helps!
Check all these things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145147
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Check all these things:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145147
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Thanks for the link, but I already checked that stuff. I'm really thinking I have a faulty device. My battery cover is the stock one and is on the phone tightly, and I even swapped my battery cover with my fiances. I even tried slightly bending the antenna contacts up so they make better contact and still have the same problem. The last thing I can think of is that I could have a bad sim card. 4G works fine when I'm in a 4G area though. I don't get why verizon thinks it is my line.
I've heard of one other person whos line is bad no matter what phone they use and that's slayers (CM7) wife.
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sabbotage said:
Thanks for the link, but I already checked that stuff. I'm really thinking I have a faulty device. My battery cover is the stock one and is on the phone tightly, and I even swapped my battery cover with my fiances. I even tried slightly bending the antenna contacts up so they make better contact and still have the same problem. The last thing I can think of is that I could have a bad sim card. 4G works fine when I'm in a 4G area though. I don't get why verizon thinks it is my line.
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First the bars are for voice so you can lose 3g and still have cell service. 2nd have you tried the app LTE onoff? If you put it on the option for cdma auto prl it should bring the signal in. If that doesn't help I would take it to Verizon.
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ddgarcia05 said:
I've heard of one other person whos line is bad no matter what phone they use and that's slayers (CM7) wife.
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Yeah I saw her rants on twitter about it. Mine isn't nearly that bad though.
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First the bars are for voice so you can lose 3g and still have cell service. 2nd have you tried the app LTE onoff? If you put it on the option for cdma auto prl it should bring the signal in. If that doesn't help I would take it to Verizon.
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I lose 3G and 1X both. I can't call or get data when this happens. I still have bars but the 3G/1X icons are non-existent on the status bar. And yeah I have the radio tools option in my wireless settings menu and I have toggled back and forth with no change. My phone is rooted and I've tried several radio combos and also many different roms with the same problem. I have even RUU'd the phone back to 100% stock with the same problem.
I'm almost tempted to go back to my incredible to see if it happens on it. I never had this issue until I got the thunderbolt.
I am on vacation this week and my 3g disappeared in the middle of a hotspot session yesterday. I spent all afternoon flashing, clearing, etc, and my ultimate solution is the one below from android central. I am certain this is a Vzw doing something to the towers in the area as my Xoom, my wife's iPhone, and her iPad2 all kept 3g the entire time.
This should be added to OP.
If the link fails Google "Thunderbolt 3g problems". It will be the first result.
http://www.androidcentral.com/having-3g-problems-your-thunderbolt-fix-just-few-settings-away
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Here is the entire article to give proper credit.
QUOTED FROM ANDROID CENTRAL:
"We'd hoped to give Verizon's network a couple more days to settle before breaking this one on you, but these are drastic times, folks. See, more than a few of you have had issues with getting 3G data on the HTC ThunderBolt when you're in a non-4G area. Nope, doesn't make much sense. But landle in the Android Central Forums has done a nice job explaining how the TB uses the eHPRD 3G network to speed the handoff between 3G and 4G data. Problem is, it ain't working for a lot of people. Good news is there's a fix --no hard resets (which until now had been the recommended fix), human sacrifice or other unpleasantness. Here's what you need to do:
Go to the ThunderBolt's phone dialer. Enter ##778# and hit Send.
You'll get a pop-up labeled EPST, with the choice to "View Mode" or "Edit Mode." You want "Edit Mode."
You'll be asked for a password. It's 000000.
Now flip down to "Modem Settings," and then choose "Rev. A." Change the setting from eHRPD to "Enable," hit OK, then press the Menu button on the phone and tap "Commit Modifications." That's it. You're done.
The phone will reboot (don't worry, you're not losing any data here), and things should, you know, actually work. As landale points out, you'll want to change this setting back once Verizon gets its network sorted out. But in the meantime, enjoy your, erm, new 3G! [Android Central Forums] Thanks, landale!"
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Here is the entire article to give proper credit.
QUOTED FROM ANDROID CENTRAL:
"We'd hoped to give Verizon's network a couple more days to settle before breaking this one on you, but these are drastic times, folks. See, more than a few of you have had issues with getting 3G data on the HTC ThunderBolt when you're in a non-4G area. Nope, doesn't make much sense. But landle in the Android Central Forums has done a nice job explaining how the TB uses the eHPRD 3G network to speed the handoff between 3G and 4G data. Problem is, it ain't working for a lot of people. Good news is there's a fix --no hard resets (which until now had been the recommended fix), human sacrifice or other unpleasantness. Here's what you need to do:
Go to the ThunderBolt's phone dialer. Enter ##778# and hit Send.
You'll get a pop-up labeled EPST, with the choice to "View Mode" or "Edit Mode." You want "Edit Mode."
You'll be asked for a password. It's 000000.
Now flip down to "Modem Settings," and then choose "Rev. A." Change the setting from eHRPD to "Enable," hit OK, then press the Menu button on the phone and tap "Commit Modifications." That's it. You're done.
The phone will reboot (don't worry, you're not losing any data here), and things should, you know, actually work. As landale points out, you'll want to change this setting back once Verizon gets its network sorted out. But in the meantime, enjoy your, erm, new 3G! [Android Central Forums] Thanks, landale!"
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Thanks. I saw this article before, but if I do this my phone won't switch to 4G when I go into a 4G area right?
I still don't get why my phone does this an my fiances doesn't. It is 99% likely that we are on the same tower too.
EDIT: Just tried the fix from the article posted above and still having the same problem.
I am sorry to have gotten your hopes up. I should have read closer, I took it that you both had the issue. Plain as day on a reread though.
Had it worked I think your 4G would have been busted.
I added some more details to my issue when I reposted in another thread. Next time you lose 3g try checking for software updates to see if it pulls the 3g back on.
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Is the *228 radio update method still valid for the Tbolt? I'm assuming if you were on the phone with Verizon they would have had you do that if it is. But just throwing this out there in case we are just overlooking the obvious.
Also added my question to the post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15256013#post15256013
@sabbotage
If you are on stock rom & radio, then you either have a bad sim card or a defective phone. Go to verizon & swap sim cards. If you still have problems, exchange the phone.
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Is the *228 radio update method still valid for the Tbolt? I'm assuming if you were on the phone with Verizon they would have had you do that if it is. But just throwing this out there in case we are just overlooking the obvious.
Also added my question to the post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15256013#post15256013
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nope it isn't, Verizon pushed a new PRL to my phone because I was having 4G issues (that was their solution?). didn't fix anything. and my 3G icon disappears once a day for a few seconds.
Hey there,
I have had this issue since I got my hands on my Atrix but it still bugs me that the issue has never been fixed. Others also still have these issues, but I hope that with our talented devs, a fix can be found.
When connected to my home WiFi network, Internet works fine.
When I disable WiFi on my phone, Data won't reconnect and the H icon won't reappear.
When I walk away from my WiFi range, Data again doesn't reconnect like it should.
When using data, after a minute or two the Icon will start to show repeated attempts of uploading data when I click something, but will never download anything, causing my website or app to hang and eventually time out. This is oddly fixed by me going to my APN settings, editing Vodafone Australia (my internet apn) but not changing anything and then going settings > save. Causing data to disconnect and reconnect correctly. (most of the time)
This is very annoying. I can stay connected to data for a max of 5 minutes, and I know it's not the network as my friend with a GT540 Optimus can stay connected for hours at a time at the same place in the same conditions.
If any dev can help then it would be greatly appreciated (or if anyone knows of a fix), I am willing to help test anything created and also provide any logs that may help narrow down the issue (although I made need assistance in retrieving those logs as I've never tried) in addition, the mods used on my phone can be found below in my signature except the radio info which is 1.77.30P
You can contact me on this thread, PM or rarely in the freenode chat
Thanks for your time.
- DarkRyoushii
is there really nothing I can do to help? This issue alone is making me consider selling up and buying a SGS2 or Sensation, since I rely heavily on a constant data connection.
I guess my only option is to wait for CM7 and hope that fixes the issues I'm seeing..
Wifi connection at my house is a pain. It won't connect to it at all unless I go into the wifi settings menu and turn it on from there. I also have problems with it losing data connection when going into the Market or Navigation...which was pretty bad on my trip to Arkansas. I just thought it was my Atrix.
Personally, every Android phone I have owned has had glaring hardware/software issues EXCEPT my Inspire. I'm switching to Apple. *prepares to be flamed*
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Wifi connection at my house is a pain. It won't connect to it at all unless I go into the wifi settings menu and turn it on from there. I also have problems with it losing data connection when going into the Market or Navigation...which was pretty bad on my trip to Arkansas. I just thought it was my Atrix.
Personally, every Android phone I have owned has had glaring hardware/software issues EXCEPT my Inspire. I'm switching to Apple. *prepares to be flamed*
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LOL, i won't flame you. Android vs iOS is the same argument as Windows vs MacOS.
It's a "Features" vs "Stability" trade off. Apple maintains better stability by cutting down features, locking things down and limiting usability <- not that hard to accomplish. Try to work in Windows 7 under non-admin account and without installing useless crap. You will be surprised as to how smooth and nice everything functions.
But for me, Android / Windows feature list wins by a large margin. I've only had one frustratingly buggy Android phone and it was a Droid 2 Global. Again, not Android's fault but Motorola's for releasing crappy software.
Anyway, if stability is your main goal, then iPhone is the phone for you
You might want to also try a Nexus phone (perhaps Nexus 3?). I've heard they are supremely stable. (never actually owned one )
p.s. I've seen a quote by someone on here, that half the fun from owning an Android phone is modding it. And for me that's 100% true.
DarkRyoushii said:
is there really nothing I can do to help? This issue alone is making me consider selling up and buying a SGS2 or Sensation, since I rely heavily on a constant data connection.
I guess my only option is to wait for CM7 and hope that fixes the issues I'm seeing..
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Is that the right radio for your phone?
I thought the 30p was for AT&T only? Could this be your problem? You may need an international radio.
I know you have an unlocked AT&T, but I thought the radio was carrier specific, and not phone specific.
I could be wrong though. My wife tells me I am always wrong!
CaelanT said:
Is that the right radio for your phone?
I thought the 30p was for AT&T only? Could this be your problem? You may need an international radio.
I know you have an unlocked AT&T, but I thought the radio was carrier specific, and not phone specific.
I could be wrong though. My wife tells me I am always wrong!
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hmm that seems like a good idea, but can I even flash an international radio on an AT&T handset? Also Vodafone Australia uses the exact same frequencies that AT&T use except AT&T 4G is considered Vodafone 850.
DarkRyoushii said:
hmm that seems like a good idea, but can I even flash an international radio on an AT&T handset? Also Vodafone Australia uses the exact same frequencies that AT&T use except AT&T 4G is considered Vodafone 850.
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Someone more technically minded with the Atrix will have to answer this. I thought the hardware was the same, so in theory flashing the wrong radio shouldn't do anything but give you data loss if it doesn't work. Then again, I am frequently wrong.
<edit> This might help: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1652182
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Someone more technically minded with the Atrix will have to answer this. I thought the hardware was the same, so in theory flashing the wrong radio shouldn't do anything but give you data loss if it doesn't work. Then again, I am frequently wrong.
<edit> This might help: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1652182
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epic find. that's my post on an old user handle which I haven't bothered to change yes, I won this phone but so far it's been quite bugged. I originally thought that I was given a prototype/dev model since they shipped it before it was released but now I know that's not the case.
I have noticed a good amount of threads popping up with people talking about signal issues, 3g/4g issues, connection issues or phone issues.
I was wondering if we could find out what the common factor here was and what fixes everyone has been using. I know that some people got new sim cars, problem solved. Some people restored to a full stock image via odin, problem solved. Reflashing the stock radio, problem solved.
So has anyone had any other solutions, issues or any other info regarding signal issues or anything relating to that?
Been through this with the Nexus, S3 and S4
The solution is to buy a Motorola RAZR or iphone.
Things that do not work -
Upgrading to the newest version of Android
Updating the Radio
Changing it to CDMA only
Lifting one leg up, putting one hand on your head and pointing your other hand due north
Attaching a sticker antenna to the back
Using some custom baked firmware
Reading posts from people who claimed they've solved the problem.
Using Bluetooth
Not using Bluetooth
Buying a special case
You can get a femtocell repeater if you are in an office or home where you get little reception but it won't help you on the road or just visiting a friend unless you want to set it up every place you are stationary.
In the end trying to fix the radio design flaw with a firmware update is about as useful as trying to fix a shattered TV screen by adjusting the brightness setting. If you read the radio issues on the Verizon Nexus and the Verizon S3 there are a lot of people claiming they solved it but in the end it still sucks.
I have zero issues with data on my s4 I'm on the east coast running clean rom 1.6.5 solid LTE everywhere..
boe said:
The solution is to buy a Motorola RAZR or iphone.
Things that do not work -
Upgrading to the newest version of Android
Updating the Radio
Changing it to CDMA only
Lifting one leg up, putting one hand on your head and pointing your other hand due north
Attaching a sticker antenna to the back
Using some custom baked firmware
Reading posts from people who claimed they've solved the problem.
Using Bluetooth
Not using Bluetooth
Buying a special case
You can get a femtocell repeater if you are in an office or home where you get little reception but it won't help you on the road or just visiting a friend unless you want to set it up every place you are stationary.
In the end trying to fix the radio design flaw with a firmware update is about as useful as trying to fix a shattered TV screen by adjusting the brightness setting. If you read the radio issues on the Verizon Nexus and the Verizon S3 there are a lot of people claiming they solved it but in the end it still sucks.
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Unfortunately this is very true, every other VZW Non-Samsung phone I've had hasn't exhibited this issue.
Motorola and Apple have had their share of radio/antenna issues as well.
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I'm not really talking about comparing the signals to the iPhone or anything. I'm talking about finding a common denominator for the group of people that are suffering from signal, connectivity or phone loss on the s4.
dougmod said:
I'm not really talking about comparing the signals to the iPhone or anything. I'm talking about finding a common denominator for the group of people that are suffering from signal, connectivity or phone loss on the s4.
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Trying to tie it all together with a common denominator is a logical fallacy. It would be akin to trying to find a common denominator for everyone in the world that has a chronic cough. The causal factor varies from case to case.
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I'm not really talking about comparing the signals to the iPhone or anything. I'm talking about finding a common denominator for the group of people that are suffering from signal, connectivity or phone loss on the s4.
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The common denominator is we are on Verizon and have Samsung phones. If you want to go further, you could do a subset intersect and see we have the S4 on Verizon. It's like saying what is a common denominator for those people who have safety issues with the Chevy Corvair. It is a design flaw that only could be fixed by replacing the phone with a different model. Trust me, I went down this path with the Nexus and the S3 - magical firmware updates were dangled by fanboys saying they would come and fix the issue but the firmware updates came but they never fixed the issue.
If you want better signal, you could buy a different phone or get a femtocell repeater. TRUST me, I would love a magic bullet to fix the issue but there isn't one. On the plus side you'll get a ton of helpful posts from people saying they never have issues or you must be doing something wrong.
I dont know what is up with all ur phones, but my signal is much better than my old Galaxy Nexus/RAZR M. I am getting 2-3 more bars of 4G at work. At home it use to be only 3G, but now im getting at least 2 bars of 4G. I don't even turn on my WiFi anymore at home or work.
bars dont really mean much...
i have had some odd issues where i will be in home depot or grocery store trying to look something up and it will fail; market doesnt work, browser doesnt work. phone calls and texts (over gvoice so data) wont work.
the razM i had before this was solid. my GF still has the razrM and we were at grocery store other day and if you went the their app there was a coupon to add and the s4 was refusing all data again.
i had similar issues with an old HTC Dinc2 and it was then i started using an app "restart connections" to get data back but it doesnt fix the issue on the s4 i have. if i reboot the phone data comes back.
i have also twice now went to use gmaps and it it attempts to look up an address for 3-5 min and i finally restart the phone and go back in and find the address ASAP after reboot.
something funky is going on and i havent taken the time to try and look at syslogs yet...
i am running the stock MDK rom (rooted) on VZW
reception is odd
matt1733 said:
I have zero issues with data on my s4 I'm on the east coast running clean rom 1.6.5 solid LTE everywhere..
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I'm in a difficult reception area in the middle of manhattan. Funny thing is that I almost always have 4G - even in my house. At the same time, I never have more than two bars of signal in my house. I have occasionally had trouble making calls (I think the tower I'm reaching is too busy), but once connected, no one has complained and dropped calls are rare.
I don't understand this and don't know whether to complain or not because although there are almost no bars, there is reception that is pretty good. So I've left well enough alone.
This phone gets decent reception for me. Dropping from 4g to 3g is new for me after coming from an htc rezound though. My rez NEVER dropped 4g in my city anywhere. Guess radios is the one thing htc can do right. My s4 drops to 3g in multiple areas sometimes. Hopefully Samsung keeps getting better with their radios and they'll have me as a customer for more years of they do
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bars dont really mean much...
i have had some odd issues where i will be in home depot or grocery store trying to look something up and it will fail; market doesnt work, browser doesnt work. phone calls and texts (over gvoice so data) wont work.
the razM i had before this was solid. my GF still has the razrM and we were at grocery store other day and if you went the their app there was a coupon to add and the s4 was refusing all data again.
i had similar issues with an old HTC Dinc2 and it was then i started using an app "restart connections" to get data back but it doesnt fix the issue on the s4 i have. if i reboot the phone data comes back.
i have also twice now went to use gmaps and it it attempts to look up an address for 3-5 min and i finally restart the phone and go back in and find the address ASAP after reboot.
something funky is going on and i havent taken the time to try and look at syslogs yet...
i am running the stock MDK rom (rooted) on VZW
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This is basically the same issue I have. Only a reboot/data toggle won't fix it. I had two bars(not that it means much, I didn't look at the db) and it kept saying it was communicating with the tower via the green/red up/down indicators, but I couldn't access any data services. I moved my car approximately 500 yards to the south and viola, data again. I don't get why I could make a call, but I couldn't access data.
That being said, it's still better than my Gnex for....well...everything. But I would say worse than my Rezound, Bionic.
i ended up flashing the modem with the ME7 version, while keeping the rest of the ROM on the original MDK. that was about amonth ago and i think ive only had to reboot 1-2 times because of data drop.
I am getting ready to make the jump from Verizon to AT&T and I am taking my DNA with me. I have done the research and I know that the DNA does not have AT&T's LTE bands, but does support HSPA. I know many of you are happy with your DNA on ATT, but I am curious to know about your general experience when you switched over to ATT, especially in areas like signal strength. For me, the HSPA network in my area uses much higher frequencies than Verizon's 700mhz LTE, so I am concerned about the propagation of the signals since towers in my area tend to be farther apart. Any thoughts, comments, and observations are appreciated! Thanks.
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I am getting ready to make the jump from Verizon to AT&T and I am taking my DNA with me. I have done the research and I know that the DNA does not have AT&T's LTE bands, but does support HSPA. I know many of you are happy with your DNA on ATT, but I am curious to know about your general experience when you switched over to ATT, especially in areas like signal strength. For me, the HSPA network in my area uses much higher frequencies than Verizon's 700mhz LTE, so I am concerned about the propagation of the signals since towers in my area tend to be farther apart. Any thoughts, comments, and observations are appreciated! Thanks.
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May I first ask why are you switching from the best phone carrier around>?
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May I first ask why are you switching from the best phone carrier around>?
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Thats a good question, and there are a lot of reasons. We just got a Nexus 5 for my wife, and with my corp discount, that puts us at $115 for two smart phones w/10GBs of data. That is with AT&T's new shared value plans and no contract, and Verizon has chosen not to be competitive and semi-open like AT&T. I have only used Verizon because of their superior network, but have never liked the company or their poor CS. AT&T has been improving their network a lot in my area and is now competitive with Verizon here. I also like the apparent industry trend toward elimination of subsidized phones on contract. I am looking forward to watching the free-market kick in as the manufacturers duke it out to see who can deliver the best device for the most reasonable price. Anyway, kinda off-topic, but I hope that at least partially answers your question.:highfive:
you wont get OTA updates,thats about the only negative i can think of besides no LTE.
i used my DNA on att for a while but with no data($10 add-on line),I did pop in an att sim that had data and tested the speed with the speedtest.net app,it was around 8-9mb down which isnt bad for the area im in (NE Ohio).
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you wont get OTA updates,thats about the only negative i can think of besides no LTE.
i used my DNA on att for a while but with no data($10 add-on line),I did pop in an att sim that had data and tested the speed with the speedtest.net app,it was around 8-9mb down which isnt bad for the area im in (NE Ohio).
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Thanks. How was the call quality/clarity?
Wondering if ever 100% working APN's were ever found to use the DNA on AT&T. I just searched again and found some settings old older threads but none worked quite right. Calls are fine, texts are fine, just MMS only ever gives a download box that never works. I tried several APN's I found.
I moved on from the DNA a while back (missed it), but got another recently from Craigslist to keep as a backup phone. It's a bit beat up, this poor phone is scratched up, small crack on glass in upper right corner. Previous owner didn't treat it well but is completely bone stock (and plan to keep it that way).
Just in case you wonder, I am switching over to Verizon from AT&T. Still have two lines on AT&T under contract till early/mid 2015. I want the DNA to serve as a backup in case any other phones I use with normal service (either AT&T or Verizon) get broken, lost, or otherwise not working. Yeah it's a shame to relegate the DNA to that duty as I love the size of the phone and it was my first 1080p screen on a phone.
Tersanyus said:
Wondering if ever 100% working APN's were ever found to use the DNA on AT&T. I just searched again and found some settings old older threads but none worked quite right. Calls are fine, texts are fine, just MMS only ever gives a download box that never works. I tried several APN's I found.
I moved on from the DNA a while back (missed it), but got another recently from Craigslist to keep as a backup phone. It's a bit beat up, this poor phone is scratched up, small crack on glass in upper right corner. Previous owner didn't treat it well but is completely bone stock (and plan to keep it that way).
Just in case you wonder, I am switching over to Verizon from AT&T. Still have two lines on AT&T under contract till early/mid 2015. I want the DNA to serve as a backup in case any other phones I use with normal service (either AT&T or Verizon) get broken, lost, or otherwise not working. Yeah it's a shame to relegate the DNA to that duty as I love the size of the phone and it was my first 1080p screen on a phone.
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Thanks for the reply. Are you switching to Verizon for cell coverage reasons?
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Thanks for the reply. Are you switching to Verizon for cell coverage reasons?
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Yes, Verizon has LTE coverage nearly everywhere. If you go into one of their stores just look at that map comparing LTE coverage between them and the other 3 carriers.
Found out the APN setting for MMS may only work on 3rd party MMS clients. On the main phone I use now on Verizon, a G2, I use Google Hangouts for all SMS/MMS, going to try that with the APN settings listed for the DNA on AT&T
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Found out the APN setting for MMS may only work on 3rd party MMS clients. On the main phone I use now on Verizon, a G2, I use Google Hangouts for all SMS/MMS, going to try that with the APN settings listed for the DNA on AT&T
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I use Hangouts as well, let me know!
No real luck getting Hangouts to work for MMS either. Put like 4 different MMS settings into either the DNA settings itself or the Hangouts apps settings for MMS. Just gives me a cannot download type message. I gave up on it.
Only other oddity is the signal type indicators change often. The H and 3G keep flipping back and forth. It'll be on H for 5 seconds, move to 3G for 4-6 seconds then go back. Sometimes it stays on one for a bit longer.
seeingwhite said:
I use Hangouts as well, let me know!
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seeingwhite said:
Thanks. How was the call quality/clarity?
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perfect,never had an issue with that or dropped calls at all.
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No real luck getting Hangouts to work for MMS either. Put like 4 different MMS settings into either the DNA settings itself or the Hangouts apps settings for MMS. Just gives me a cannot download type message. I gave up on it.
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@Tersanyus, have you seen this post? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37819301&postcount=20
Also you could try this post as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38357094&postcount=3
Hopefully one of those two solutions will work for you. I also read that with some roms, MMS just wont work. Viper was one of the ones mentioned, but that was an older version.
Hi
I wanted to buy this from gearbest.
Will it work on AT&T with all the LTE bands?
borisb said:
Hi
I wanted to buy this from gearbest.
Will it work on AT&T with all the LTE bands?
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Yep... Using it on Cricket right now state side.
http://willmyphonework.net
borisb said:
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I wanted to buy this from gearbest.
Will it work on AT&T with all the LTE bands?
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I'd like to say "yes", but have found out the hard way that it depends on exactly which part of AT&T's network you intend to use it on.
I created a thread which I haven't yet updated, which outlines some issues I had. Turns out that my X820 as well as a different LeEco X82X (can't remember - same model ) do NOT work with AT&T in my area at all, and I live very close to the antennae. However, when I travel out of town, the phones work great. AT&T can't seem to figure out why this part of their network is different, but something certainly is. YMMV.
At the moment, there doesn't seem to be a large enough sample size in the US to compare notes and find possible network issues with this phone.
I have it, and it works for me in North Florida in AT&T
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I have more info on my issue with this phone on AT&T, and it's an odd one. LTE works great, but if I am directly under the antennae, or within line of site of them, 3G shows full bars, but it does not work and I cannot place or receive a call. If I walk a block away, and have a building between the phone and the antennae, 3G works perfectly. If I initiate a call where it works, I can move back to LOS, and call does not drop. No other phone seems to have this issue, so there is something very different in the 3G implementation in these phones which is responsible for this.
I wish someone out there had an idea as to what is causing this. One of AT&T's network engineers, who witnessed this first-hand, is stumped and I'm short on ideas to remedy it.
RandyT2 said:
I have more info on my issue with this phone on AT&T, and it's an odd one. LTE works great, but if I am directly under the antennae, or within line of site of them, 3G shows full bars, but it does not work and I cannot place or receive a call. If I walk a block away, and have a building between the phone and the antennae, 3G works perfectly. If I initiate a call where it works, I can move back to LOS, and call does not drop. No other phone seems to have this issue, so there is something very different in the 3G implementation in these phones which is responsible for this.
I wish someone out there had an idea as to what is causing this. One of AT&T's network engineers, who witnessed this first-hand, is stumped and I'm short on ideas to remedy it.
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I got an x829 yesterday (live in the US) and plan on using it with Straight Talk/AT&T (getting the nano sim now). Have you flashed yours to a newer/custom ROM and it still works with AT&T? If so which ROM?
Wagmans said:
I got an x829 yesterday (live in the US) and plan on using it with Straight Talk/AT&T (getting the nano sim now). Have you flashed yours to a newer/custom ROM and it still works with AT&T? If so which ROM?
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I have two of these phones, and both have the issue I described above. If I were to guess, it probably has something to do with initial 3G handshake timing.
One of the phones is running Madsurfer's 21s. It may have been a dirty flash over stock China ROM, but I seem to recall that one being a clean flash (wife's phone, so I don't mess with it much.) The other is Small EUI by aurel V7, dirty flashed over Rom V6-X820 of Bshuy2003.
I have observed no real differences with regard to the 3G connectivity issue between either phone, with any firmware. I'm thinking it is something at a lower level which is causing this odd issue.
I haven't received my max2 yet but I have read through allot of these posts and I remember reading about using the #*#* code to force LTE and it helped mobile connections. Also I saw that 19s CN or 17s India eui has VoLTE support. Lastly I noticed that the posted 23s beta cooked eui that Steve Mars posted has new modem files. You may try that as well. Hope that helps!
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I haven't received my max2 yet but I have read through allot of these posts and I remember reading about using the #*#* code to force LTE and it helped mobile connections. Also I saw that 19s CN or 17s India eui has VoLTE support. Lastly I noticed that the posted 23s beta cooked eui that Steve Mars posted has new modem files. You may try that as well. Hope that helps!
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Thanks for the info, but I think the issue runs pretty deep inside these phones. If I knew more about the hierarchy of the software/firmware, where network negotiations are concerned, I'd have a better idea where to look for a solution. But I can say that I have tried virtually every ROM and modem file available, and this odd behavior persists. It's possible that it's specific to my home site, but according to the engineer, AT&T's sites are pretty standardized. The fact that other phones don't exhibit it, tends to point to something deep inside the Max2 as being the culprit. It's an insidious problem, as one might not realize that there was an issue, unless one happens to be close to a tower, trying to unsuccessfully make or receive a call, with full bars showing.
IIRC, the iPhone also had some strange issues on the AT&T network in the early days, and it took some concerted effort between AT&T and Apple to get it sorted out. The chances of of something like that happening to solve issues with these phones is probably next to nil.
Randy do you have LTE on your account? Could it be the eNode trying to promote you onto a better link and the baseband failing that negotiation?
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Randy do you have LTE on your account? Could it be the eNode trying to promote you onto a better link and the baseband failing that negotiation?
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I do have LTE on my account. The phone is connected, by default, to LTE, and falls back to WCDMA when making a call as it should. I have monitored signal strengths throughout the process, and they are very high, due to to my proximity to the tower. Locking the phone to WCDMA makes no difference.
When the phone doesn't have line-of-sight to the tower, and/or that LOS is significantly obscured, the UMTS signal goes below -60dba and the phone works perfectly. Thinking the signal strength was the key, the output of the tower was artificially reduced to below that level, as a troubleshooting test. It still did not allow the phones to work on WCDMA to make calls, even though it still showed a 3G connection with full bars. I'm not a telcom engineer, but it really seems like a timing problem, where the reflected signals work, but signals received directly from the transmitter do not. Again, the problem exists only at the point where the 3G link is initiated, either by the handset or the tower. Once a call is established, that session works fine, no matter the proximity to the tower thereafter. But once moved into the areas of LOS to the tower with an active call session and I end the call, the phone can no longer make or receive calls in those areas.
Short answer: sorta
borisb said:
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I wanted to buy this from gearbest.
Will it work on AT&T with all the LTE bands?
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Alright so I have been using this phone for about 6 months and it kinda sorta does. I am using the x820 one btw. I get about 80% up time with this phone. I can't really make or receive calls without the phone dropping them within the 1st minute. Let me explain further. So firstly, when I am on LTE (if not on 4G (I'll explain later)), and try and make a call, I will usually get switched over to 4G and then as the call is attempting it will completely lose service and say I can't complete the call. Then after that attempt, I will usually get my service back. And it will keep doing that unless I get lucky then if I actually can make a call then I will be lucky if I get a full minute or 2 before the call drops because of loss of service. Now for the later explanation. So basically I have noticed just because I am supposed to get LTE doesn't mean you will get the service. Also you will drop service a bunch and it gets very aggravating! I have verified my results in FL, GA, and TN.