Dual ROM boot? - Droid Eris Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys! Is this even possible to do?
If not, what are similar methods to do this?

I don't think this is possible because of how little internal memory our phone has. The only way I could think of maybe doing it would be to have one Rom on a SD card I heard you could do that in a windows mobile phone but I don't know if its possible with two Android roms, I think the closest thing you will get to is backing up the Rom and flashing the other on and back and forth
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Of course there is, if you are rooted. Just have a couple Nandroid back ups of whichever roms you like. You can restore whichever one you want, whenever the mood strikes. Just reboot into recovery and pick your poison. You can have 12 different roms if you want. You can even do 2.1/2.2 if you'd like, though if you use a2sd, you'll have to work around that. Hope this helps.

Thats the only way but It would be a pain to do every time you boot up cause it takes time to flash a backup back into memory.

aww damn.. but thanks for the input guys.. i guess the nandroid is the only way for now xD

Yeah... when phones get 1GB of internal we can dual boot =p

I actually was talking to punk.kaos about this the other day and he was saying they were thinking of making a way to dual boot from the SD card, but I am not sure how high it is on the agenda. I know he has a lot of other projects that he keeps up with. So, there is hope, I just don't know of a time frame.

That would be some ridiculousness haha, if you guys start working on it and it isss possible, I'm sure it'll be done.
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[Q] how can i access my nandroid backups with a unresponsive screen?

Last weekend my screen stopped responding to touch.
Anyway, T-mobile was nice enough to send me a new phone for free under warranty. I unfortunately have all my nandroid backups on my internal memory on the old vibrant. Is there any way i can access that on my pc in clockwork recovery mode. Cause i can't do anything when the phone is on besides look at the unlock screen light up for 30 secs. This blows cause i dont want to go through all that time to get my new phone back to the way the old one was.
BTW my old phone was rooted and i had my ld phone heavily customized.
Hopefully somebody can help cause im coming up empty searching for an answer. No one seems to have had this problem yet or i'm not searching for the right words. i only got 2 days to send the old phone back also.
removesstains said:
Last weekend my screen stopped responding to touch.
Anyway, T-mobile was nice enough to send me a new phone for free under warranty. I unfortunately have all my nandroid backups on my internal memory on the old vibrant. Is there any way i can access that on my pc in clockwork recovery mode. Cause i can't do anything when the phone is on besides look at the unlock screen light up for 30 secs. This blows cause i dont want to go through all that time to get my new phone back to the way the old one was.
BTW my old phone was rooted and i had my ld phone heavily customized.
Hopefully somebody can help cause im coming up empty searching for an answer. No one seems to have had this problem yet or i'm not searching for the right words. i only got 2 days to send the old phone back also.
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First. Rooting your pho.e automatically voids the warranty.... so you'll likely get charged for the device after a month or two.
Second, boot into recovery. Using adb, execute the following command
Adb pull /emmc/nandroid/
This should pull the entire nand directory and copy it into your sdk\tools directory.. Also know that cross device band restores don't always work so well and you may run into problems. When putting it on your new device, toll have to make a band with the new one and empty all your backups into the new folder, since the device ids will be different...
Hope that helps.
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You can run adb pull /sdcard to get the whole internal sdcard. Highly doubt TM does anything they rarely do.
i decided to go w running adb pull /sdcard
its pulling the data now. i choose the command since i realize thats where some photos and other files are saved.
My next plan was to find a way to unroot it through recovery. then mail that thing back and no harm done.
removesstains said:
i decided to go w running adb pull /sdcard
its pulling the data now. i choose the command since i realize thats where some photos and other files are saved.
My next plan was to find a way to unroot it through recovery. then mail that thing back and no harm done.
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You said it was saved on internal storage.... if its on the sdcard, no need for adb. Use the same card in the new device.
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AdhvanIt said:
You said it was saved on internal storage.... if its on the sdcard, no need for adb. Use the same card in the new device.
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No it was the phones internal storage you know the internal 16gb of space.
Anyway i got all my data off of there. Thanks a ton. This post should help others as well. it was stupid easy if you understand basic terminal commands.
I got my new vibrant like my old 1 in about 10mins. I'm so happy now.
Oh btw, the t-mobile rep. Stated that if they find anything that looks like the phone was altered in anyway that would void the warranty. They would charge me a max of $100. If that happens it would suck, but not as bad as the full vibrant price.
I think I'm going to get the insurance on this new phone now.
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Can't Boot Into Recovery

How retarded is this?! I can't boot into recovery. I have a radio image on my SD card and every time I go into HBoot, it asks if I want to update, I say no, and my only option is to reboot....
Back story: I set the voltages on a custom kernel too low and I can't get past the white screen. So I need to flash the kernel with stock voltages again.
BUT I CANT ... So I have to wait till tomorrow to get a miniSD card reader or some crap like that.
Whoever programmed the HBoot screen was a total idiot. There should be a way to decline the update and GO BACK TO MENU.
Hey now... Don't go throwing rocks at programmers for the design of hboot. Rule number 1 is to remove ANY PG05IMG.zip after flash for this exact reason. MiniSD is about $20, worth it in your case. I bought one long ago when I did the same thing, except I just put my SD card in my girls TB to remove the file. Bought the card reader just in case.
BigMcGuire said:
How retarded is this?! I can't boot into recovery. I have a radio image on my SD card and every time I go into HBoot, it asks if I want to update, I say no, and my only option is to reboot....
Back story: I set the voltages on a custom kernel too low and I can't get past the white screen. So I need to flash the kernel with stock voltages again.
BUT I CANT ... So I have to wait till tomorrow to get a miniSD card reader or some crap like that.
Whoever programmed the HBoot screen was a total idiot. There should be a way to decline the update and GO BACK TO MENU.
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No, this is why you should have a card reader. Don't get mad at everyone else because you didn't come prepared. Especially with what you are doing. Now who's the idiot
And don't complain about having to get one, it's 2011, everyone should have one, especially when most devices are MicroSD.
BigMcGuire said:
How retarded is this?! I can't boot into recovery. I have a radio image on my SD card and every time I go into HBoot, it asks if I want to update, I say no, and my only option is to reboot....
Back story: I set the voltages on a custom kernel too low and I can't get past the white screen. So I need to flash the kernel with stock voltages again.
BUT I CANT ... So I have to wait till tomorrow to get a miniSD card reader or some crap like that.
Whoever programmed the HBoot screen was a total idiot. There should be a way to decline the update and GO BACK TO MENU.
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You might try connecting to USB when at the HBOOT prompt. I believe it may mount the drive and allow you to remove the image file. Then just reboot to HBOOT, and you should be able to go to Recovery.
Thank you, come again.
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You might try connecting to USB when at the HBOOT prompt. I believe it may mount the drive and allow you to remove the image file. Then just reboot to HBOOT, and you should be able to go to Recovery.
Thank you, come again.
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Thanks for trying - the sad thing is, it won't let me choose anything because it immediately starts work on the PG05IMG.zip file. And all I can choose is Yes/No to update. And if I choose no, my only option is to reboot, which puts it back into the loop.
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No, this is why you should have a card reader. Don't get mad at everyone else because you didn't come prepared. Especially with what you are doing. Now who's the idiot
And don't complain about having to get one, it's 2011, everyone should have one, especially when most devices are MicroSD.
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bking_soda said:
Hey now... Don't go throwing rocks at programmers for the design of hboot. Rule number 1 is to remove ANY PG05IMG.zip after flash for this exact reason. MiniSD is about $20, worth it in your case. I bought one long ago when I did the same thing, except I just put my SD card in my girls TB to remove the file. Bought the card reader just in case.
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Are both of you guys 50+? If so that would explain your response. I've been rooting for 2+ years now (flashing about every week) and I've never had to have a card reader. Why do I need one now? Because the Thunderbolt's HBOOT was poorly programmed to loop if you have an image file on the sdcard. I admit it was a rant but how hard is it to program Option 3 Back to Main Menu? It isn't hard... It's called bad programming. I've programmed far better myself and I'd call myself a noob when it comes to programming.
For someone who says to have programmed better, it sure was a stupid idea to not remove that zip file from your SD card wasn't it? Don't get mad at everyone because of your mistake. You bought the ticket, now take the ride. You should be glad its something that's easy to fix. Next time, do what you're supposed to. Thanks by the way for making that comment back. I needed a good laugh this morning.
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For someone who says to have programmed better, it sure was a stupid idea to not remove that zip file from your SD card wasn't it? Don't get mad at everyone because of your mistake. You bought the ticket, now take the ride. You should be glad its something that's easy to fix. Next time, do what you're supposed to. Thanks by the way for making that comment back. I needed a good laugh this morning.
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Your welcome, always good to have a laugh now and then. Btw, I have SD card readers, what I don't have is a microsd card reader. I don't think they even make those? Just the extenders, the MicroSD --> SD card or USB direct.
I've had the image file on the root of my SD since I rooted months ago. I just didn't assume Hboot would be so badly programmed. I think it's a valid point to make... But nice to know someone's happy today because of me
And yes they do make micro SD readers. Look near the cameras at best buy. At least that's where I found mine. In the future, just.be sure to always delete the PG05IMG.zip from your SD or at least move it to download folder or rename it. Good luck.
Also why blame this on poor programing when the user is not supposed to be using hboot anyways! The developers weren't making this for us and I'm sure they know how to remove files from their sd cards. Don't go blaming everyone else for your mistake.
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miketoasty said:
Also why blame this on poor programing when the user is not supposed to be using hboot anyways! The developers weren't making this for us and I'm sure they know how to remove files from their sd cards. Don't go blaming everyone else for your mistake.
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Whatever... I still think it is bad programming. I don't think what I did was a mistake either, my only mistake was to assume that HTC programmers were intelligent enough not to put a logical error in their programming (a loop). If they had just programmed in a 3rd option to go back to menu, all this would have been avoided. With your logic, programmers shouldn't make things simple and easy... We should all be using dos! If that was the case, Windows never would have been programmed because users should be able to do everything themselves. I work with developers and programmers - that's not how you do things. What I did may be a rant, but I still feel it is a valid one.
You guys wanna bash me for something like this? Fine. Have a go. I get it. Maybe I'm all ****'ed in the head. But if I was programming HBoot, and I've programmed a few things in my day - I would have put an option to go back to main menu.
I have the same problem and it frustrates me, especially when i mess up my phone and it wont boot. I like to go in Recovery, thats where i fix everything lol. But i cant get into it because it doesn't let me change the menu :[
clark707 said:
I have the same problem and it frustrates me, especially when i mess up my phone and it wont boot. I like to go in Recovery, thats where i fix everything lol. But i cant get into it because it doesn't let me change the menu :[
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Thank you. Thank you for letting me know I'm not the only one that thinks this way. You made my day.
I just fail to understand why after apparently making it through the root process, people continue to leave these files there. EVERY post regarding anything flashed via PG05IMG.zip through hboot tells you to remove the file after flash. This isn't rocket science. If you can't read and follow directions or suggestions, you shouldn't be tweaking your phone in the first place. We were not intended by the programmers to be doing what we are doing anyhow. Devs have worked very hard since day 1 to allow us these opportunities, if you don't follow their directions you are subject to exactly these types of problems. You can rant and bash all you want... Go spend the $20 on the card reader, be more careful in the future and be glad it isn't going to cost you $100 to replace the phone.

What do you backup on TWRP nandroid backup

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Hey there. Quick question to those more experienced than me...when doing a nandroid backup what do you select to backup? I know the obvious default plus Wimax keys but what about the other options? My current BU is everything but SD. Think that has too much crap (dalvik and all) with it? Also, what sizes of backups are you guys seeing for things? Off hand I want to say my system was 640 and Wimax was 12 (MB). I know some will vary but others should be fairly constant. I did a search but didn't see a ton of good answers on this so I figured I'd start a thread.
Input?
Other related input for TWRP questions?
Thanks
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I backup system, data, boot, wimax.
Nandroids are usually almost 1 gig, so I stick with a couple backups, then I transfer them over to my PC. That way I have more room on the SDcard.
AOSP roms will be way less than a gig since Sense is taken out. That might sit around 200mb per backup.
Dave2582 said:
I backup system, data, boot, wimax.
Nandroids are usually almost 1 gig, so I stick with a couple backups, then I transfer them over to my PC. That way I have more room on the SDcard.
AOSP roms will be way less than a gig since Sense is taken out. That might sit around 200mb per backup.
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+1 backup of system, data, and boot are a must, everything else is optional. I make one backup of wimax and store in on my pc.
Thanks. I figured system data boot and Wimax were the mandatory ones. My thought process for initially including the others was for a most accurate "snapshot" of the current state in the event if a bad flash. I used CWM on all previous roots and I don't recall it being as granular. The option to be specific is nice though. I just wanted to make sure my understanding of each was right. I seem to be grasping well. I'm a firm believer that if you hose something up you didn't do your HW right. The knowledge is always there if you read, and ask when applicable.
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Also...props for mentioning the explicit Wimax backup. I'm going to do that now. That seems to be the most forgotten thing with TWRP since is not selected by default for some reason.
The Wimax RSA keys are specific to each Wimax mac are they not? Just a guess but I wanted to clarify. If they aren't an explicit backup may help someone who may have forgotten them. Even still I'm sure a Dev may be able to mod one up to be used as a recovery. My coding knowledge is limited but i know my way around I.T. in general very well.
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Dave2582 said:
I backup system, data, boot, wimax.
Nandroids are usually almost 1 gig, so I stick with a couple backups, then I transfer them over to my PC. That way I have more room on the SDcard.
AOSP roms will be way less than a gig since Sense is taken out. That might sit around 200mb per backup.
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I'm still a noob- why do you do a couple nandroids? If you have 2 or more on the SD how can you differentiate them? Would you know just by the date modification?
thanks
Skyphos said:
Also...props for mentioning the explicit Wimax backup. I'm going to do that now. That seems to be the most forgotten thing with TWRP since is not selected by default for some reason.
The Wimax RSA keys are specific to each Wimax mac are they not? Just a guess but I wanted to clarify. If they aren't an explicit backup may help someone who may have forgotten them. Even still I'm sure a Dev may be able to mod one up to be used as a recovery. My coding knowledge is limited but i know my way around I.T. in general very well.
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Wimax keys are different on each phone, a friend of mine hosed his evo 4g that way..he restored the backup from his first evo to another evo..and it was poof...gone. Wimax keys are special for the towers..
btkgator said:
I'm still a noob- why do you do a couple nandroids? If you have 2 or more on the SD how can you differentiate them? Would you know just by the date modification?
thanks
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Do it when sober...or else you will forget what date stamp was for what backup...
As far as I know...it is only by dates they are stored.hmmm makes me want to write a trwp utility that will read the time timestamp of the backup and you can enter notes in it. Kinda like a trwp backup note taker...put on to do list...
life64x said:
Do it when sober...or else you will forget what date stamp was for what backup...
As far as I know...it is only by dates they are stored.hmmm makes me want to write a trwp utility that will read the time timestamp of the backup and you can enter notes in it. Kinda like a trwp backup note taker...put on to do list...
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I see- I clearly did not open of this file to see the date stamps- HT168HX01594. But to my surprise when I opened it up- 082820111824. Now I just need to figure out how to read that.
I just use Astros and rename it to what it is a backup of and the date.
Shot by my Alter_EvO!......... BANG!
TWRP does a good job at labeling it under your device name (dev name/date+time/data.) but i did notice TWRP's clock sometimes gets a lil off. I set it to my GMT offset once and a week or so later i did a backup and i was upward 2 hours off. Not a big deal but thought it may be worth mentioning. Also, their battery% is off a little. Again, none of this really matters but just an observation.
And I keep several NAND's because its easy as pie to reload those and never miss a beat. Once i get a rom the way I want it I make a NAND and file it. I try to do that ever now and again so i have a recent update. Whats it hurt? You can always have a NAND of your favorite rom so you can switch pretty seamlessly...and you always keep an updated backup.
Space isnt hard to come by either...several 1GB files on a PC is nothing and even 2GB on a phones SD card isnt much to ask for given the peace of mind it offers you.

[Q] Anyone Offer A ROM Flashing Service On The XDA?

Curious for those of us without the proper tools or the know how to do this properly. This works for the Note but can also work for any other device.
Just study up. Read the instructions. Visit the general section and read. Flashing is easy. Best to just learn. Watch some YouTube videos. Be careful. Have fun.
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NightHawkUndead said:
Just study up. Read the instructions. Visit the general section and read. Flashing is easy.
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You missed the part in the OP about not having the proper tools. No amount of reading or studying or preparing can help when the tool is made for Windows and you're running a Mac (or no computer at all).
OP -- I'm sure there's plenty of people on here who do (or would help you with) flashing ROMs but a lot of that is going to depend on where you live. Best bet: Craigslist and see if you can find someone in the Cell Phones section who does that. Denver (yes... where I am) has a ton of shops that will flash custom ROMs for you - but of course they want you to pay for the privilege.
However - I would really recommend finding someone local and trustworthy. Don't EVER send someone your device, because let's be honest - you'll most likely never see it again unless you're sending it to a real business.
bmstrong said:
Curious for those of us without the proper tools or the know how to do this properly. This works for the Note but can also work for any other device.
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First....start off at YouTube, and watch people root the Nexus One over ADB. You'll learn a few tricks...but most importantly, you'll learn your way around the device manager and the command prompt in windows. While it may seem daunting at first...there are only a few commands you'll need to learn.
That solves the problem you'd have with rooting and installing Clockwork Mod (the basis for flashing any new ROMs.
Lastly...if you can find a valid windows installation (or you can even use a 90 day trial version of windows 7 enterprise) you'll want to install boot camp on your Mac...which allows you to run windows on your Mac. Easily.
By no means am I an android powerhouse, but I do work in IT and am handy with a device manager, various hosts, and windows and Mac.
The next best option would be to offer someone here 10-20 bucks to show you over Skype, or do it for you using go to meeting.
Remember 1 thing. Its actually hard to brick a device if you do a few things.
Only flash RC or final versions of ROMs. In general. These have been THOUROUGHLY tested. The more feedback for a ROM the better. Learn to search threads here frequently.
Don't go about customizing the software by flashing mods (until your more comfortable). Android provides a perfect host system for providing customization via the Play store. Widgets...toggles...backgrounds. Notification tweaks, and almost everything else you'll need can be found on the play store and easily uninstalled.
Lastly...always keep a backup of you're system
via Nandroid, and keep a backup of your apps with Titanium backup.
If you have any more questions....feel free to ask them here or PM me.
You can start by researching "how to do a Nandroid" and "what is clockwork recovery mod" in your favorite search engine.
If you think you can follow the simple steps of performing a Nandroid and you can find your way around Clockwork Recovery Mod....there really isn't much to worry about.
Bricking your device can usually be fixed in the case of a soft brick or boot loop. The real bricking usually happens when you flash software meant for another device, or don't follow instructions.
Once you've flashed your first ROM...you'll find that the process is remarkably similar for all mods ROMs and other packages.
Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
bmstrong said:
Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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Now that sounds like a plan. Hmmm. Maybe I can do this myself. Now I need to find a stock stable ICS with NFC enabled. Even better would be one to take advantage of the radio hidden by AT&T. It would be nice to have the option to pop and flop.
Exactly. Once the initial root and new recovery menu is done then you are set. Between a CWM nandroid, Titanium Backup, MybackupPro, and even Appsaver your only real limitation is set by how large your external sdcard is.
You can even use online storage sites like Minus, Google Drive, Drop Box etc to host all of the files so that you can access them anywhere.
Hmmm. What's the closest stock ICS out there right now, if I may?
I am running Flapjaxx Unofficial ICS and it is super smooth. I plan on switching to his latest though once it is finished downloading.
netsyd said:
Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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+1 on any Flappjaxxx ROM btw. So you pull your external sd? Have you ever had an issue or is it just a precaution?
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bmstrong said:
Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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I wonder if it would help you to back up on google drive? Ive never tried it or anything but it could possibly give you some cloud space. Maybe a good option?
Yayodroid said:
I wonder if it would help you to back up on google drive? Ive never tried it or anything but it could possibly give you some cloud space. Maybe a good option?
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Yeah. I use both Drive and Dropbox, so no worries. The larger question I have is why do I need to back some of this stuff up? I've never been a big application guy. This Note has 4? Maybe 5 apps on it, aside from the stock Google services. SMS/MMS get deleted instantly or saved into the Cloud. And email moved with my Gmail account and that gets barfed back into each Mobile I use very easily.
Titanium backup seems like a pain in the ass. All I'm after is a clean stock ICS build, a way to shut off the hard keys and replace them with soft buttons, and that MHL works. Turning this Note into a portable LTE MHL Chromebox with a fantastic screen. The option to flop and plop would be nice...
you dont have to back up, but personally i would like to have my own personal backup of stock. of course there are stock odins around here. but in your situation it might be more handy on the cloud to access anytime. you might want to use the back up to flash back to for when they release ics over the air.
Service makes some sense
If you've read many of the questions that some poeple ask on these forums, it really makes me think that certain people really shouldn't be trying some of these things themselves. Most of us have no problem reading and understanding rudimentary steps to get us going, but some people come in with little to no foundation in these matters; what we're saying really is Greek to them. I feel bad, but for these people, I encourage them to seek out someone that knows, at least on a basic level, what they are doing.
I've written looooong, detailed tutorials for people and I'm glad to do it. But sometimes even after that, I get the feeling that these people will still end up messing their phones up. I've been proven right on at least two occasion and I can't help but feel bad... So maybe a pool of people in each area capable and willing to do these kinds of things might make sense. Haven't thought through how that would work, but maybe. Hmmm...
bmstrong said:
Hmmm. What's the closest stock ICS out there right now, if I may?
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Im using team perfections ics ucle2 objection with rc1 its great as well as fj's
sent from team perfections ics rom
Extremely interesting process and results. I still have a host of questions, why certain things are done in a certain order, what exactly some of the things do that I did, and why when I did not make a back up of anything, it said specifically that it failed, some of my apps and vids are still here in the new FJ ROM. Just a fasincinating first time experience from someone who has always used stock Nexi. The ROM isn't really my taste, I hate Apex and there is bloat apps in it. But!
I feel like the old Quantum Leap show...
You can debloat with tibu. Also, you can use any launcher you want.
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Can't format, tons of apps crashing.

So... I have FJ Mod on my note. Things have been running great for a long time. Then a few days a go, out of the blue, google voice was constantly crashing. Then the gapps process. Then it got ridiculous and everything would crash. Then I noticed that when I restart, it saves nothing that I had done. For instance, my call log, text messages, moved icons on my homepage.
I did a wipe in CWM, and everything came back the exact same. Still the same problem, icons still in the wrong place... no idea whats going on.
Has anyone got any advice for me? I was going to try and put a new ROM on later if worse comes to worse, but as is, this is very frustrating. I often have to restart my phone just to use the browser, or message, or anything really. I am just hoping that my internal SD isn't screwed some how and now allowing me to write to it. I haven't done any changes. I don't even believe I have downloaded any apps since a week or so prior to this issue.
Flashing with ODIN did not good either. I tried to revert back to stock. It uploaded with no issues apparently, and then when it rebooted I was back in ICS with everything as it was... argh.
Find one of the the ics leaka one click Odin packages and run that. Should wipe everything, and then you just have to flash cwm and root again.
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welchertc said:
Find one of the the ics leaka one click Odin packages and run that. Should wipe everything, and then you just have to flash cwm and root again.
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Well, I tried something similar with a rogers stock rom. Booted up Odin, connected to issues. Uploaded/transferred no issues. Figured I'd be on stock Gingerbread upon bootup, but it was ICS! I've done this and similar on multiple phones, not sure whats happening. I will try again with a different rom as you suggested tonight.
I know where the leaks are...this loser has them here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
welchertc said:
Find one of the the ics leaka one click Odin packages and run that. Should wipe everything, and then you just have to flash cwm and root again.
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johnnyb82 said:
Well, I tried something similar with a rogers stock rom. Booted up Odin, connected to issues. Uploaded/transferred no issues. Figured I'd be on stock Gingerbread upon bootup, but it was ICS! I've done this and similar on multiple phones, not sure whats happening. I will try again with a different rom as you suggested tonight.
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bigjoe2675 said:
I know where the leaks are...this loser has them here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
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Greatly appreciated! Thanks for posting the link. I will try it tonight and let you know how it works out.
johnnyb82 said:
So... I have FJ Mod on my note. Things have been running great for a long time. Then a few days a go, out of the blue, google voice was constantly crashing. Then the gapps process. Then it got ridiculous and everything would crash.
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I had the EXACT problem, out of the blue as well. I didn't have the other stated problems in your OP but I did have the one quoted above. First voice , then a few google apps(gmail, drive, etc). The apps would hang for a few 1-2 minutes (felt like hours) and the phone including capacitive buttons became unresponsive and couldn't do anything with the phone. The "wait" or "ok" buttons on the force close popup were not clickable.. It sorted itself out in a few days and boy did it drive me NUTS. I was afraid to post up here in fear people would think I was nuts and did something myself to make things go so awry. I was convinced I myself was nuts.. im by no means daft when it comes to android dev/tinkering lol. Very strange
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Well I was impatient and tried 2 different roms right away. Neither worked. Odin showed "pass", no errors. Then it does its auto-restart and bam, back where I was. Not having the best of luck with this right now.
Any other ideas would be appreciated!
simbill said:
I had the EXACT problem, out of the blue as well. I didn't have the other stated problems in your OP but I did have the one quoted above. First voice , then a few google apps(gmail, drive, etc). The apps would hang for a few 1-2 minutes (felt like hours) and the phone including capacitive buttons became unresponsive and couldn't do anything with the phone. The "wait" or "ok" buttons on the force close popup were not clickable.. It sorted itself out in a few days and boy did it drive me NUTS. I was afraid to post up here in fear people would think I was nuts and did something myself to make things go so awry. I was convinced I myself was nuts.. im by no means daft when it comes to android dev/tinkering lol. Very strange
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LOL I actually waited a few days before posting here too. I was hoping that maybe uninstalling and reinstalling some, or updated, or clearing cache and all that would help. As you can see, it did nothing. Heck, after I restart my updates didnt even stick and Google Play is trying to download them again!
Well... still no luck.
Here is another thing I noticed. When I hook up the note to my PC, and look at it, I cannot access my external SD. Furthermore, I had a file on my internal SD that I deleted. When I restarted my phone the file was back. Yet in windows it removed without error. I have no idea what is happening at all.
And now its reading it again........ Ive literally been sitting here trying a bunch of different ways to fix this. Playing around in CWM, trying ODIN including a couple 1 click solutions. The one starts writing to NAND, then stops and gives me an error.
Try taking out your sd card and running it for a while. First note i got was acting that way from the get go. Took it back and got a new one. It started doing the same thing. Finally took out sd card and ran great. Card was going bad. I had replaced the 8 gb stock card with the 16 gb one i had in another phone and apparently the mote didn't like it.
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johnnyb82 said:
Well... still no luck.
Here is another thing I noticed. When I hook up the note to my PC, and look at it, I cannot access my external SD. Furthermore, I had a file on my internal SD that I deleted. When I restarted my phone the file was back. Yet in windows it removed without error. I have no idea what is happening at all.
And now its reading it again........ Ive literally been sitting here trying a bunch of different ways to fix this. Playing around in CWM, trying ODIN including a couple 1 click solutions. The one starts writing to NAND, then stops and gives me an error.
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Did you, by any chance, install a custom kernal? IIRC, one of them messed with the mount points. By far, the only way to fix your issue immediately will involve restoring to stock through ODIN, then rerooting and reflashing CWM. This will 100% mark your Note as either defective, or prove that it's a problem in another area. However, I don't believe your problem is with your SD Card, unless you've been using an app like apps2sd.
If you're weary about doing this, try to reflash CWM, or TWRP to figure out if it's something going on with the recovery partition and/or settings. I'm no expert, but the only thing I'm aware of that sticks around through a wipe, and multiple flashes are our recovery, our internal SD files (possible), and sometimes the modem. Also, the one click leaks include a not loader, which could prevent you from restoring a GB Nandroid.
By flashing CWM, then TWRP, then CWM again, or sticking with TWRP, you at least knock out one variable...and by reformatting your internal SD, you ensure no resources are sticking around.
Edit:are you using TiBu to backup and restore/migrate after a flash? Verify your backups under the batch lost.
What could be happening, is you're restoring data in CWM, or TiBu, or w/e ap you're using, and then the Google account sync restore is restoring your settings, and replacing the desired ones, or vice versa.
Edit again: Which launcher are you using? Which utilities do you use? What are your main root apps?
The backup verify is a must...but some launchers will scoot icons out of the way. If you're having a touch screen issue, or an S Pen issue, you could be draggn items around when you're not aware of it.
I'll see this through. You've caught my interest.
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johnnyb82 said:
So... I have FJ Mod on my note. Things have been running great for a long time. Then a few days a go, out of the blue, google voice was constantly crashing. Then the gapps process. Then it got ridiculous and everything would crash. Then I noticed that when I restart, it saves nothing that I had done. For instance, my call log, text messages, moved icons on my homepage.
I did a wipe in CWM, and everything came back the exact same. Still the same problem, icons still in the wrong place... no idea whats going on.
Has anyone got any advice for me? I was going to try and put a new ROM on later if worse comes to worse, but as is, this is very frustrating. I often have to restart my phone just to use the browser, or message, or anything really. I am just hoping that my internal SD isn't screwed some how and now allowing me to write to it. I haven't done any changes. I don't even believe I have downloaded any apps since a week or so prior to this issue.
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Also, tap USB utilities in settings, by the other FJ mods, and tap the selection there, then check to see if you can find your SD card through your PC.
In addition to the above, you can also enter the "Tools" section of FJmods, and disable ad blocking, remove touchwiz UI, s voice, etcetera, and return ALL settings too default, and remove all extras. You can reflash recovery there too.
How are you trying to reformat your SD card?
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Jamesyboy said:
Also, tap USB utilities in settings, by the other FJ mods, and tap the selection there, then check to see if you can find your SD card through your PC.
In addition to the above, you can also enter the "Tools" section of FJmods, and disable ad blocking, remove touchwiz UI, s voice, etcetera, and return ALL settings too default, and remove all extras. You can reflash recovery there too.
How are you trying to reformat your SD card?
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I had installed a custom kernel on Gingerbread before, but obviously that was replaced with the one I used with FJmod. It had been operating fine for over a month.
Also, I removed my SD Card, and tried everything without it. I have tried restoring gingerbread stock and ICS stock through both ODIN and CWM. Even formatting through CWM does nothing as when I restart I am back to normal.
As for root, I only had 2-3 programs with access. ES File Manager/Task manager, and I tried one called Lucky Patcher (I will verify this evening). All of these had been on for at least a week prior to all this beginning.
I havent been using TiBu for anything at all actually.
The launcher I am using at the moment is Nova.
Other than that, I am going to try a few of your suggestions once I am done work. I will post my results tonight!
Thanks for the suggestions and info, greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Just to be clear. I am formatting then restarting and all my apps, icon placements and wallpaper return. Even my call history is stuck up to the 13th and erases recent calls. I am also trying to revert to stock ICS and Gingerbread through both ODIN and CWM. After it is done installing through ODIN and reboots, I return to the way my phone was before. Same with CWM. After flashing through CWM I return right back to the way it was. I am not doing any restoring or anything. I have done this plenty of times in the past before. The only thing I can possibly imagine at this point is that my SD is somehow stuck on read only. Yet it is weird because again, I can delete files and apps (and even windows shows them as gone), but after a restart they are all back! I can remove apps, but they are still in the app menu too.... I can even run them lol (even after deleting their folder). The phone is stuck in stasis.
All of this just happened one day out of the blue. No new apps (for at least a week) too.
I have a GTab that had the EXACT same symptoms.. turns out it's internal flash memory was bad, not the microSD. going for broke I opened it up and desoldered the flash memory IC and it uses the microSD now as its primary storage. If even after a stock reflash you have problems I hope you have warranty.
Black6spdZ said:
I have a GTab that had the EXACT same symptoms.. turns out it's internal flash memory was bad, not the microSD. going for broke I opened it up and desoldered the flash memory IC and it uses the microSD now as its primary storage. If even after a stock reflash you have problems I hope you have warranty.
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Great... lol! I have a warranty, but no one will work with it due to the fact I have a custom rom. Am I maybe contacting the wrong people? I contacted Rogers and they said they couldn't help me. Well I am going to purchase the s3 as I get a small discount on it. I am positive I will end up with the next note unless some sort of crazy deal passes in front of me for another note.
johnnyb82 said:
Great... lol! I have a warranty, but no one will work with it due to the fact I have a custom rom. Am I maybe contacting the wrong people? I contacted Rogers and they said they couldn't help me. Well I am going to purchase the s3 as I get a small discount on it. I am positive I will end up with the next note unless some sort of crazy deal passes in front of me for another note.
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No stock Odin for your phone? I would attempt this to be absolutely sure the problem isn't software related.. they should warranty hardware faults.
Black6spdZ said:
No stock Odin for your phone? I would attempt this to be absolutely sure the problem isn't software related.. they should warranty hardware faults.
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No sir. I tried stock gingerbread and ics. I've tried custom roms. I've tried just erasing it too! Tried Odin and CWM. I am going to try and change recovery today again too.
Rogers said they won't help. They used the word "launcher" but I knew what he meant. They think I may have overclocked it any burnt it out I bet. Maybe I will try calling samsung.
Thing is, all my private info is on there! At least no private pics though
johnnyb82 said:
No sir. I tried stock gingerbread and ics. I've tried custom roms. I've tried just erasing it too! Tried Odin and CWM. I am going to try and change recovery today again too.
Rogers said they won't help. They used the word "launcher" but I knew what he meant. They think I may have overclocked it any burnt it out I bet. Maybe I will try calling samsung.
Thing is, all my private info is on there! At least no private pics though
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If your have insurance, and it turns out the phone was physically damaged , you could try making a claim....but that's only if it was physically damaged. So you restored stock through odin? Did this happen on the stock unrooted rom?
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Jamesyboy said:
If your have insurance, and it turns out the phone was physically damaged , you could try making a claim....but that's only if it was physically damaged. So you restored stock through odin? Did this happen on the stock unrooted rom?
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Well its currently stuck on FJ Mod (which I think is a great rom), and then it just started acting up. I cannot restore Gingerbread stock, or ICS stock, or anything else. ODIN and CWM both show completed on my attempts, but upon reboot my device is back exactly where it left off on the 13th.
I picked up the S3 and I like it, but I miss my note badly

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