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I've just become aware of the new replacement program for problem Fascinates. I've been reading the forums but it wasn't completely clear EXACTLY what i need to do in order to be offered a replacement. I bought my Fascinate on eBay like 3 months ago (pre-rooted with a Blackhole ROM i believe) and while i do like it, it does have it's share of issues. i get the phantom button press a lot, GPS is VERY slow to lock at times, i occasionally get random voicemails from calls i didn't know i missed, my screen timeout setting is constantly changing back to 15 secs when i set it to 2 minutes, and MMS rarely works.
so yea, from what i've read so far, it seems like i'm prime for a replacement. but i need to know first off, do i need to flash a stock rom or will it not matter? will i need to take it in and prove it's not working because it only has these issues sometimes and i may not be able to replicate on the spot? also what exactly do i need to say (and who do i call) in order to prompt them to offer me a new device? thanks in advance for the help and i apologize if this is explained somewhere already. i've looked and it just seems to mostly be people talking about their new phones and not how they actually got them.
1. Go to Walmart.
2. Buy knee pads and lip gloss.
3. Go to Verizon.
4. Put on knee pads and a good amount of lip gloss.
5. By now you should know where this is going.
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1. Go to Walmart.
2. Buy knee pads and lip gloss.
3. Go to Verizon.
4. Put on knee pads and a good amount of lip gloss.
5. By now you should know where this is going.
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seriously, i would like to know how to get this free upgrade.
Just act stupid and say your phone doesnt work right and yes u should change everythin to stock couz root voids your warranty. But sometimes they still replace even if i did it. But change back to be safe
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You may have a problem because you didn't get the phone directly from vzw & they can find that out. Also, they're getting hammered right now with people trying everything to get this deal whether they need it or not. Seems like they're becoming a little more stringent with their criteria. But I think the real problem for you is where you got the phone.
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B1gC72 said:
seriously, i would like to know how to get this free upgrade.
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Ugh! I hope you get nothing. vzw knows YOU didn't buy the phone from them.
good day.
I wish I could tell you good news, but I've been down this road before. My hub bought a phone off ebay and found out something was wrong with it that same day it came in the mail. He went to Verizon and asked them if they could do anything and they said since he bought it from ebay they can't do anything. They are going to look into your account and know that you didn't get it from them, so I don't think you have any hopes at all getting it replaced.
You could however flash it back to stock and try...if you don't succeed...keep it stock and put it back on ebay. The fassy's are still selling for quite a bit and use that to purchase new phone.
well thanks for all the help. some people seem really offended but the only reason i even asked is because people on other forums said they traded in their eBay Fascinates and got the deal. i don't know if the warranty is transferable or not, but it's still been out less than a year and should be covered. also, there is no way they can tell i bought it on eBay either. the most they should be able to see is when i activated it and maybe track the ESN back to the original owner, still doesn't say i bought it on eBay. i didn't buy it directly from Verizon but the guy i bought it from did. people were even having success with phones bought from Best Buy.
You don't understand.... It's people like you taking advantage that makes it harder than it needs to be for people actually having problems and honestly want to return the phone...
It's people like you also who everyone thinks badly of in there heads and in the IRC xD
And you really don't think they can't tell where you bought it?
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chopper the dog said:
Ugh! I hope you get nothing. vzw knows YOU didn't buy the phone from them.
good day.
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Do you think it only has to be from an authorized retailer? I bought mine from Best Buy and they never even asked me where I got my phone. So maybe they can somehow tell if it was either bought from them OR an authorized dealer OR maybe the reps that I worked with didn't care.
They probably won't be doing swaps anymore because ED05 is official and ready.
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They probably won't be doing swaps anymore because ED05 is official and ready.
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For sure the swap ended yesterday due to the new ED05 update. Right now, they're only offering replacement Fassys. I was however, able to talk them to giving me an early upgrade for the trouble since I REALLY hate this phone. Better than nothing, and they were real cool.
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You don't understand.... It's people like you taking advantage that makes it harder than it needs to be for people actually having problems and honestly want to return the phone...
It's people like you also who everyone thinks badly of in there heads and in the IRC xD
And you really don't think they can't tell where you bought it?
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i understand perfectly. and don't you think your being a little extreme? it's not like my phone doesn't have issues. it WAS bought from Verizon and it has a warranty. so I didn't personally buy it from Verizon but what the hell difference does it make? if it's messing up and under warranty, they should fix it or give me a replacement. did you even read my original post? i said what was wrong with the phone so it's not like i'm making stuff up, i just wanted to know what they were listening for in order to qualify for the upgrade replacement since i have more than one issue. don't make me out to be the bad guy, read on other forums where people are just saying they have issues to get the upgrade when their phones work fine. i even saw one story where a store manager encouraged someone to say they were missing calls to get a Charge for free when the guy said he was saving money to replace his Fascinate. so it really falls on the reps to do their jobs anyway since they are supposed to actually check for issues, so isn't it their fault if they don't? i ended up not even calling anyway, so get off your high horse guy.
and no, i don't think they can tell where i bought it. they can most likely tell where it was originally purchased and see when and where it was activated and deactivated but how can they possibly know more than that? stop spreading propaganda.
call vzw and tell them the problem and theyll tell you if you are eligible for one
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call vzw and tell them the problem and theyll tell you if you are eligible for one
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i'll probably just wait for a new ROM based on the latest update now if that actually fixes the issues. sure the allure of a new device is intriguing (especially if it's free), but i don't dislike the phone, i just want it to work like it's supposed to.
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You don't understand.... It's people like you taking advantage that makes it harder than it needs to be for people actually having problems and honestly want to return the phone...
It's people like you also who everyone thinks badly of in there heads and in the IRC xD
And you really don't think they can't tell where you bought it?
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I love the holier than thou forum white knights. I swear you relative moralists leave no forum untouched with your auto-ego stroking.
Listen, everyone who owns a Fascinate and went through the OTA update process had the same issue with missed calls and texts. Furthermore, even custom ROMs (CM7 included) experienced this issue. Until now, there was no work around and not everyone is an XDA daily driver and knows that ED05 has been released. We all went through the exact same run around waiting for Froyo, I know I for one wasn't about to sit back and wait for this release to be pushed back 4-5 times. I took the free upgrade and I don't feel the least bit bad about it. I even posted the script that worked for me on the first try, because at the time ED05 had no firm release date and I feel like everyone pumping out $200 for a phone and $100+ a month deserves a product that won't cause them huge issues like the Fascinate caused for me. I lost thousands in sales because I missed calls and the Google Voice missed notification wouldn't show up for 15-20 minutes.
Bottom line is, don't try to crucify everyone that asks for help with this situation. Odds are they don't know about ED05 being released and they probably don't trust Samsung to get an update out on time because they never have. The only reason this one came so fast is because Verizon/Samsung were losing their asses on replacement costs.
TLDR: Don't be a ****.
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i'll probably just wait for a new ROM based on the latest update now if that actually fixes the issues. sure the allure of a new device is intriguing (especially if it's free), but i don't dislike the phone, i just want it to work like it's supposed to.
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+1 and I also would enjoy the better camera and front facing as well.
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Tell them you lost it somewhere where there is a high volume of people coming and going i.e the mall, hospital etc. if you have insurance on your phone you should be able to get a new one
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If you think you can call Verizon and say your phone is defective and expect them to send you something different then it wont happen.
1. You bought the phone off eBay, thus you no longer have a one year manufacture warranty.
2. Without the manufacture warranty they cant send you a replacement phone.
3. Your best option is to see if you have an upgrade or go through your insurance and see what kind of phone they will send you. You never know sometimes they send you UPGRADED phones!
To the people WHO ACTUALLY GOT THERE PHONE THROUGH VERIZON. If you are within a year and your phone is "defective" then you can call them and make it clear that you have done a full factory reset and everything you try doesn't work. They will then send you a replacement, it might be the same phone or you might get lucky and get an upgraded phone.
I work for Verizon and I've had customers come in with a Droid and manufacture sent them a Droid Three.
Am I doing something wrong???
If my phone isn't getting the sleep of death, it's keyboard lockups, call dialing delays, random restarts, soft bricks and being completely unresponsive...
I think I might buy a Palm Pixy or some other phone, what do you suggest???
I am rooted, but I never had any issues like this on my Droid X with nearly the same apps...
I'm getting fed up. I might switch to the SGII. I'm a big Motorola fan, but I'm really fed up.
If you guys give me any suggestions, let me know...
Sometimes I can't use this phone in an emergency... The other day I need to make an emergency call. I press send, and then the phone restarts...
I can't even listen to music in peace without a random restart... Maybe I'll get an iPod Touch....
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I really don't wanna leave you guys, but I'm getting fed up. Motorola stopped helping wirh bug fixes... I don't know what to do....
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Seriously...what are you doing to your phone...I don't how many you've gone through..like 5? It doesn't make ANY sense..no mass-produced product is THAT bad...QC probably accounts for .001% defects or less in a million...You should probably wipe your phone, factory reset it, SBF to stock, and switch it for SGS2 or Galaxy Nexus when it comes out.
If you look at my "Embrassed by Photon" thread, I am having issues that I have learned to live with BUT, I also had the Emergency phone call issue and could not use it.
Holding out for Samsung Galaxy Note!
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Seriously...what are you doing to your phone...I don't how many you've gone through..like 5? It doesn't make ANY sense..no mass-produced product is THAT bad...QC probably accounts for .001% defects or less in a million...You should probably wipe your phone, factory reset it, SBF to stock, and switch it for SGS2 or Galaxy Nexus when it comes out.
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dont think my POS Samsung Moment was that bad
Best bet is to go back to bone stock and run it for a while. If you have the same issues then it could most likely be your device.
What rom are you running? IMO cybiks cm7 and jokers 1.3 is the best combo. I have never had a random reboot once I got my undervolting levels tweaked right. It ran perfectly fine at the default voltages and I wanted to extend my battery life a bit.
You could also have a app that is going awry causing your device to overheat and seize.
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Yeah man, you are really screwing up somewhere. Everyone I have ever met in person with a Photon raves about how awesome it is.
I actually talked to a guy in line at the store the other day who had one - I noticed our oddly shaped device in a otter box on his hip and asked if it was Electrify or Photon (We Tennesseans tend to randomly chat with total strangers, like they are old pals.) - it was a Photon, he loved it.
I told him, if he wanted to love it more, read about Rooting and Roms. I wonder how that turned out for him.
I'm running pure stock and rooted. I rave about my Photon when it works right, trust me, it's awesome... Maybe my apps conflict with this device??? Cuz I never had any issues like this on my Droid X... I'm a huge Motorola fan, I don't want to leave you guys!!! Maybe I'll switch to a new device, but I will still be around, no matter what...
As for the Galaxy Nexus, other than LTE, and NFC, and ICS, the Photon beats it right out of the water!!!
I don't know if this is pure bad luck.... My apps nust conflict with the device.... I was running great with no issues until I installed avast! security... and for what avast! does, I'll take the repercussion of random reboots, if that is even the app causing random reboots....
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If you look at my "Embrassed by Photon" thread, I am having issues that I have learned to live with BUT, I also had the Emergency phone call issue and could not use it.
Holding out for Samsung Galaxy Note!
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I just meant if I needed to make an Emergency call, I couldn't at times, I didn't exactly mean 911.
Why is avast that important to you?
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In my personal experience, it is the best antivirus and theft security application there is, but I am not sure that avast! is the issue, I'll uninstall it for a week and see if it stops... But, I have posted about 3 or 4 threads ranting about how this phone doesn't work sometimes.... I'm waiting for an LTE device that has 1080p, WiMax, and the specs our Photon with Tegra 3...
I don't know what to do anymore.... I must be doing something wrong...
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I don't know what to do anymore.... I must be doing something wrong...
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Again, I'm putting the phone back to Sprint Stock with a handful of my most common and trusted app's (BofA, Credit Union, MSNBC, Pandora and a few games) It's likely some s**t I put on it so I blame myself, not the phone.
Like I said, at the end of the day, its a phone. I could not call my boss for something the other day. It was freezing, then it went into bootstrap recovery.....by the time I removed OtterBox and battery, I was pissed (Matter fact, now I remember, It was 4:15AM Saturday!!!! I got pisssed because I had to get up off my a** and come in here!!)
Anyway, #1. Im 100% sure it's me, not Photon. #2. I'm still going for the Galaxy Note! The spec's on the Note are outrageous!!
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In my personal experience, it is the best antivirus and theft security application there is, but I am not sure that avast! is the issue, I'll uninstall it for a week and see if it stops... But, I have posted about 3 or 4 threads ranting about how this phone doesn't work sometimes.... I'm waiting for an LTE device that has 1080p, WiMax, and the specs our Photon with Tegra 3...
I don't know what to do anymore.... I must be doing something wrong...
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Wipe your phone clean and install each app one by one to test...but it's stupid that you've gone through that many photons..Besides, what do you need security for anyway? You're not installing random crap are you?
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In my personal experience, it is the best antivirus and theft security application there is, but I am not sure that avast! is the issue, I'll uninstall it for a week and see if it stops... But, I have posted about 3 or 4 threads ranting about how this phone doesn't work sometimes.... I'm waiting for an LTE device that has 1080p, WiMax, and the specs our Photon with Tegra 3...
I don't know what to do anymore.... I must be doing something wrong...
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Antivirus on android is pointless unless you use a pirated apps/market. The "sky is falling" articles about infection rates on android devices never give you actual numbers just "Up 427 Percent" Tom's Guide. If the original infection rate is 500 devices worldwide, even with a 400% increase you still have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning.
There are a couple of locate/remote wipe apps available on the market that do not include antivirus. That would be a better choice unless you are using pirated apps/market.
Here a simple troubleshooting guide to follow. It's not much fun but should eliminate a number of possible causes of the issues you are having.
Factory rest via settings
Flash stock SBF (do not root or unlock)
Do not install any apps for 24hrs to see if problem persists (if no then goto 4, if yes then replace device)
Install only one app a day and see if problem shows up. If so, start over. This time eliminate the suspect app from the list.
I run into this a number of times when servicing phones and very rarely does the issue show up again when the process is followed. It generally tends to be app conflicts or an app update is buggy.
I realize that it's probably my fault. And I blame the phone for not being able to handle the apps like my Droid X, that's all.
One more thing, there are a few virus apps on the market... I've run into a few...
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I would get the Galaxy Note, but I'm waiting for a quad-core device. And Sprint is stupid for allowing LTE Devices without Android 4.0.
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My first EVO that I bought on launch day was having some issues. Sense reloading, WiFi not disconnecting after I left my house, 3g sucked, battery life wasn't the greatest, and just seemed laggy. The guys at best buy tried argueing with me and said to reproduce the issues. I was able to show them the 3g connection and my WiFi issue. The guys tried telling me the WiFi was because the phone will automatically connect to all open access points. This is where we started to argue for a minute or two. I told them that was BS, we argued for a few seconds then I cut him off and asked, "Are u going to honor your return policy or what?" I hate it when Best Buy employees try to act that they know everything.
Anyways, the second EVO is running great. WiFi acts normal, way less lag, battery has gone for 2 full days without being charged and moderate use. And sense hasn't reloaded one time yet. Im really glad I traded it out for another instead of just returning. I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
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My first EVO that I bought on launch day was having some issues. Sense reloading, WiFi not disconnecting after I left my house, 3g sucked, battery life wasn't the greatest, and just seemed laggy. The guys at best buy tried argueing with me and said to reproduce the issues. I was able to show them the 3g connection and my WiFi issue. The guys tried telling me the WiFi was because the phone will automatically connect to all open access points. This is where we started to argue for a minute or two. I told them that was BS, we argued for a few seconds then I cut him off and asked, "Are u going to honor your return policy or what?" I hate it when Best Buy employees try to act that they know everything.
Anyways, the second EVO is running great. WiFi acts normal, way less lag, battery has gone for 2 full days without being charged and moderate use. And sense hasn't reloaded one time yet. Im really glad I traded it out for another instead of just returning. I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
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thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
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thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
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Best Buy isn't that bad about returns, Sprint on the other hand Good luck
Anything that marks this phone as a second revision to the initial? Anything on the box, like Rev. 2 or Rev. B?
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Anything that marks this phone as a second revision to the initial? Anything on the box, like Rev. 2 or Rev. B?
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The hardware revision in the settings is the same. I'll check the box tomorrow.
evo401 said:
thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
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HTC has a built in feature called SmartSync, which disables data after a period of non-use for deep sleep. If you check the dev threads, there's a fix for it, but it requires some smali editing. Some of the more recent roms have it built in. So the whole WiFi/3G disconnect thing is actually a feature believe it or not...lol
I believe I am lucky. Even though there are the multitasking issued, which everyone has, my EVO has never done the loading sense home screen thing... And I run some memory hoggin apps. Grindr, last.fm, maps, xda, browser, mail. Never had the reload show up yet.
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I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
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What apps, do tell
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im having the light leak issue also.
also the sticker i had was black, like some generic sticker placed over the small clear one that was probably broken already.
i may have been sold one that someone returned. mf's
question: do i have to go to the same store i bought it at to exchange it?
I understand your pain dealing with people that are less knowledgeable than you (a Sprint rep tried to tell me that the SD card on my phone could be what was causing the reception issues if the card was 32gigs, no joke). However, try to understand that most of the time these people are just following instructions set forth by their employers. When things usually start to escalate like that, stay polite and ask for a manager. Believe me, it works better.
Anyway, I'm glad you got a non-defective phone and can start to enjoy it
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Best Buy isn't that bad about returns, Sprint on the other hand Good luck
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I exchanged my first EVO LTO for frequent reboots at a Sprint Corporate store, 2nd one perfect!
On my third LTE. Should have kept the first one. Hope the new shipment BB gets is better than the ones they had last week.
First LTE: Dust under glass and slight light leakage
Second: Pixel stuck in on position and screen has the flex/ripple issue when under medium pressure
Third: Has flex/ripple issue as well and wifi on this one and 3 G has been worse than the first two
Next shipment comes in Friday. Crossing my fingers for a GOOD one!
My first was light leakage and second was ripple and all I can find around here all have the ripple, hope this goes away in the upcoming batches...
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On my third LTE. Should have kept the first one. Hope the new shipment BB gets is better than the ones they had last week.
First LTE: Dust under glass and slight light leakage
Second: Pixel stuck in on position and screen has the flex/ripple issue when under medium pressure
Third: Has flex/ripple issue as well and wifi on this one and 3 G has been worse than the first two
Next shipment comes in Friday. Crossing my fingers for a GOOD one!
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Omg I would switch to another phone after the first one Wtf is wrong with you guys. There are more superior phones oops did I just say that yes I did.
I had to return my first one as well. I was not getting calls txt or voice mails. Data worked find but nothing else.
exchanged it at best buy, and all my messages came through right away.
I suspect that it was not a phone issue but an activation issue.
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Omg I would switch to another phone after the first one Wtf is wrong with you guys. There are more superior phones oops did I just say that yes I did.
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You mean like the Galaxy S3, the phone that will have zero problems on launch day? Good luck. My first Evo had a bad pixel, and I am waiting on the replacement. I was going to get the SG3 instead, but after reading the UK SG3 threads, there are a lot of issues. I decided that the Evo is best for me. Whether it is superior or not is subjective.
Yeah, as stated above, it will have issues. Hell, go to the S3 forums here at xda and review the complaints of various folks.
In the end, my EVO is imperfect, but as usual with HTC, software updates will fix these annoyances, so I'll be patient.
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Yeah, as stated above, it will have issues. Hell, go to the S3 forums here at xda and review the complaints of various folks.
In the end, my EVO is imperfect, but as usual with HTC, software updates will fix these annoyances, so I'll be patient.
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I'm guessing you didn't have their Touch Pro? I went Samsung after that. That being said I will never buy another Samsung phone, they don't support their phones for ****. I'm with you though I'll take the minor data drops and wait out HTC patches and the much stronger dev support system..
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It is amazing to have the chance to compare two different phones. I ended up unfortunately having that experience after I dropped my brand new EVO LTE in the toilet. My first phone I noticed that it didn't auto dock on my car dock even with the option turned on.
Haven't tried the camera on the new phone but old phone seemed like it didn't take sharp pictures like I was expecting but ones that were more out of focus than really blurry.
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HTC has a built in feature called SmartSync, which disables data after a period of non-use for deep sleep. If you check the dev threads, there's a fix for it, but it requires some smali editing. Some of the more recent roms have it built in. So the whole WiFi/3G disconnect thing is actually a feature believe it or not...lol
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Which roms have this built in? I returned my EVO recently and my new phone has the same wifi problems. I would like to try a rom before returning the phone again.
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I don't have my device yet as I have Verizon, but for anyone who does have one on another carrier, I was wondering if you could answer two quick questions.
With the stock Rom, does the screen have a translation from on to off, or does it just go black? Specifically, in CM7 when the screen goes into standby and shuts off the display, you see the old tube television quickly fade to the line in the center of the screen animation.
Secondly is there a way on the stock Rom to change from "Bars" to "dBm" on the notification bar?
I think its too much to ask if it warns you of Dragons Ahead, so I won't even ask that one. : )
I know I can put CM9 on the GS3, and will probably eventually do so, but for the first few months I really want to keep it virgin. Root/Bloat Freeze for sure, but stock everything else on the phone. I would remove the apps instead of freezing them, but I have a feeling this phone will get updated soon and I don't want to deal with any nonsense due to missing default apps.
This will be my first Samsung phone, and just like I did with HTC Sense and MotoSlow, I want to give TouchWiz a test run and get familiar with their home interface. I am going to really miss dBm instead of those useless signal bars. I am pretty sure ANYONE who has EVER used a cellphone can tell you "Bars are Bull****". At least with dBm you get a slightly better idea of whats going on with your signal. The old time tube translation is something I grew up with seeing tube tv's, and loved on my cellphone in CM7. It would be creepy to see the screen just go black, that's not right. Dragons Ahead makes me smile every time and think of a time past where tv's shut off properly.
There was no screen off animation on my international version when I got it, and there was no way to get a DBM reading in the status bar, sorry
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There was no screen off animation on my international version when I got it, and there was no way to get a DBM reading in the status bar, sorry
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Thanks for the info. I guess it will be something I just deal with till I get to know TouchWiz. In a few months I will be using CM9 anyway.
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Thanks for the info. I guess it will be something I just deal with till I get to know TouchWiz. In a few months I will be using CM9 anyway.
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CM9 on the international version is awesome good luck with your phone when you get it!
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Thank you! It just sucks what US carriers are doing to this device. Apparently now I am hearing they removed the FM radio from all US SG3's because it had a recording feature. Typical BS where Corporate America spends all its time on its knees blowing the RIAA/MPAA.
Not sure if they just removed the apk or the hardware too. Still waiting to here back from someone, but the FM radio is confirmed not to be on T-Mobile and Sprint. No word on AT&T or Verizon.
I own TuneIn Pro, and have only used the FM radio twice on my DX but it's a matter of principle. US versions of this phone have been completely dumb down and are being priced much higher than their European counterparts. I'm really getting sick of that ****. I can't wait to the ignorant people live in my country wake up and start realizing that capitalistic corporate America needs their ass handed to them for the way they have been acting over the past 10 years. It's always been bad and not exclusively here in the US, but over the past 10 years things have really gotten out of control.
Edit: Proof in point. I just read on the T-Mobile forums people were defending the company for not including it because they said it would've raised the cost of the device. Maybe those stupid ignorant T-Mobile users should realize that T-Mobile in UK is offering the phone for free, while T-Mobile in the United States has the highest prices of any carrier for this device. Pay more for less that's the American way .
Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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I've been using the 920 for 2.5 months now and I have none of your issues. I had the restart bug but it got fixed with portico update. also there is some dust under the FFC but i don't care because it is not on the lense and it don't use it anyway.
i know about black screen and factory reset bug but i read for the 1st time that there should be major problems with the SIM card or the hardware buttons.
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Am I the only person that's noticed the cover up (or at best complete overlooking) of the 920 MANY issues?
Let me say, I own(d) a 920 and I loved it so much I looked past all its flaws, and I dealt with a lot. Previous owner factory reset it right in front of me and we know what that means. I spent the next 12 ****ing hours unbricking the thing just so I could use it! Now, after owning the 920 a freakin week, it stops reading my SIM card suddenly so now I'm back with android.
I just notice that no tech site has EVER run any articles about the litany of major issues with this phone. Hell even in the forums nobody seems to have put it together! Am I the only one who sees it??
Bricking on factory reset
Battery life issues
Black screen on calls
Hardware buttons randomly not working, requires soft reset
Phone suddenly stops reading SIM cards
I'm sure I'm missing some but those are the one I dealt with. Am I alone?
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Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
Son Loves it!!
Heelfan71 said:
Previous owner. Maybe that is your problem.
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My son has had the 920 since it came out...Other than *****ing about the lack of the most popular apps (instagram, temple run, Jetpack Joyride...etc) the phone has been nothing but flawless. He will never give it up because he is an xbox junkie lol
i've had it for almost 2 months now..
only issue i've had is the crashing (normally every couple of days), since updating seems ok so far...I've flashed a few 'roms' to it, EE branded and normal
I thought the screen going blank in calls was supposed to happen? Like to save power? last couple of phones i've had turn the screen off when you put it to your head?
I'll be honest, i'm a little disapointed in windows phone 8, after coming from 7 with no crashes for a year (apart from once when i started messing with the registry) I found windows phone 8 quite shocking, coming from android/windows mobile i'd say its not to bad, but in someways it seems a downgrade. But so far no crashes with the latest update, and i'm hoping it stays that way, but honestly, I have a feeling your issues are isolated.
Also had the chance to use the new nexus 4 the other day, if theres a cover up going on, i'd say its those who say android is smooth and responsive....
I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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I'm shocked 2 of you have had no problems. Search Google for any of the problems I listed and you'll find loads of people with the same issues.
Id get another one but I can't afford to keep buying phones when one ****s up. And yea the screens supposed to go black when you put it to your head but it was going black and staying like that so I could end calls, use the num pad, use speaker phone, or any of that. I found a work around but the proximity sensor is supposed to work
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Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
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Search google for ANY electronic device followed by the keyword 'issue / problem' and you are sure to get pages of results. People that don't have problems (most people) typically don't post about it while people with issues regularly post because they want the issue resolved. This gives an artificial bias to the negative and only reinforces the already tainted view of people in a mindset that something is rubbish.
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I agree, since the last update I haven't had very many problems at all. And since I haven't been having issues I haven't been coming to the forums as much. I just come in every once in a while now to see if there's anything new. I'm not constantly hounding for an answer to my problems on a daily basis since I don't have problems. It's my guess that other people who have perfectly working phones would have like minds as me... or just not visit the forums at all.
No bricking during factory reset (had to do it once and I'm not going to do it again just to prove a point).
Battery life is awesome.
Hardware buttons are working fine.
Blank screen during calls isn't an issue for me since the proximity sensor works almost all the time, I think.... at least, it hasn't been a big enough concern for me that I actually notice it.... guess I should keep track of it.
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Pre-portico
No stability issues, but craptastic daylight camera and bluetooth connectivity issues
Portico:
Unstable. Reboots at least twice a day.
Good daylight camera
Good bluetooth connectivity.
Think people have to make a choice about the portico.
unstable and functional or stable and unfunctional.
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I've been using my 920 for a month and haven't encountered any of your problems. The only thing I don't like about my 920 is that there is no app so far to automatically switch phone profile according to time and location.
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This is also the main thing I'm missing, coming from Nokia N8 the situations was really a great app...
I think Nokia lumia phones in general have a lot of issues, as does Windows Phone. It's just there are so few users even if there was a problem, it would seem isolated. Microsoft's share in the smartphone market didn't even budge at all in 2012. WP users are not power users so they just run back to the store to get an exchange. Even the lumia 920 forum at wpcentral.com is slow as molasses. 90% of the posts are very shallow anyway. Most don't even know what screen size their phone is or what processor its running. the camera is just AMAZING and the phone is PERFECT, over and over again. Of course, this forum isn't any better. The only difference being the plethora of unlock threads, because xda is international.
Your description of WP users is fairly accurate & the market segment MS is going after. The enthusiast market is small & even on Android accounts for a very small % of sales. The easiest way to solve an issue is by exchanging the phone, if you have that option available to you. A lot of issues people are having are either caused by defective hardware or a bad flash IMO, which is an issue on any of the platforms.
Do people not expect bugs and hiccups at launch for these kinds of devices?
It happens. And it's not as bad as you perceive; it's not a conspiracy.
AW: The great Lumia 920 conspiracy.......
If ms allows developers create store accounts for free I bet there would be more apps on store.,.
I get what you guys are saying, but phone busting issues like that black screen on calls and bricking on hard resets shouldn't be common enough to have a thread full of people experiencing them.
If anyone knows of any way to get the phone to read SIM cards again, I'd like your help. I still miss using my lumia 920 :'(
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I have experianced just about every issue in this thread. I have users of the 920 I support for other stuff and I see how they basically ignore them as they did on their Blackberry or iPhone. I had the brick issue... news flash as I posted in another thread, it is not bricked!!! use the Nokia Care Suite, gets you going no problem. During my day I may deal with just about every phone they see at an AT&T store (Tmobile, Sprint,or Verizon for that matter)... they all have issues. Have you ever seen an iPhone user change their password on their laptop and not update the iPhone? Lets say you need to get to something before updating that password, like they changed the server setting trying to update it... go ahead try it. Drop calls, Steve Jobs had to properly instruct dumb iPhone users how to hold an iPhone. Andriod, perfect????? WTF are serious?? And becuase of that piece of software, it does not matter what hardware you are talking about.
My phone is limited compared to Andriod, I can agree with that.... but I can do more with fewer Apps and I like that. The 920 has had some hiccups along the way, but the hardware I have right now is as solid as any other phone out there, actually physically a tougher phone then any other top tier phone.
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This is exactly what I was trying to get at. These sorts of issues and threads are everywhere for many high profile smartphone launches, especially lately with this insane obsession with HW spec wars.
I've seen much worse, many times, you will not buy a high end smartphone at launch these days without having some sort of worry that there will be a game-breaking bug or defect.
WP 8 for 3 months:
NO ISSUES
POWER USER (i had portico when the first roms were available on navi)
my question is, are all these faulty devices on ATT or another crap american service , cause i think this may be your problem, ive had to work on vodaphone orange tmobile and ee 920's and 820's and i can say with pride that the only issue people have is the lack of popular apps., there is no conspiracy. why the eff are you people needing to hard reset anyway wtf are you doing to your phones?
I have to admit I've been having freezing issues regularly, often when it's just sat on my desk or in my pocket, and almost every night while on USB charge. I've also noticed on the odd occasion a reboot, but only because of my SIM being PIN locked.
Mine was a German Vodafone one, which I flashed on day 1 to the CV_GB ROM, then again to CV_GB Portico ROM. Maybe I'll try a different one, as I've heard the EE one has fewer issues.