Hi everyone, I hope im not being too naive by posting this.
I joined the forums for one thing, to improve my TG01.
Let me explain firstly; ive had my TG01 for a few months now - wasnt happy it was on WinMo as it was, but i managed. Then i saw some Android stuff and decided that was what this phone needed..so i browsed and i browsed...nothing, only got so close to be denied time and time again. haRET actually seen to get the boot screen up, but freezes with about 5 lines of text which is too small to read then resets the device.
What i want to know is, is there any sign of getting Android on the TG01, if so, how long? and if not, what else can i do? I dont know a thing about ROMs, but i want to make this phone all it can be...
Suggestions?
you should follow this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672234
1. the phone gets really hot on the bottom back pannel is that normal?(not hot to the point where i cant touch it but pretty damn warm)
searched for overheating etc only found the youtube vid.
2. 2 days i had it at work the battery dies after only few hours of sitting
i let it sit and once in a while push the button to check messages and let it turn the screen off. yesterday after about 5 hours the battery was almost dead. today after only 3-4 hours the battery was dead again. WTF???
3 i had the TP2 when it came out for about 3 weeks, spent lots of time tweaking not much time actually using the phone since it was always bugging out. now got the HD2 and feel like im back to same ol tweaking session ahead of me, trying different roms and radios and all to be able to use the device without so many issues. can someone help me out with the correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom.
and what about android, from what i understand it is at a stage where it can be used for daily phone routines without crashing right? or not yet?
all i want is the features to work without freezing. and lil more settings.
is there a rom that is simpler than sense interface, with less animated graphics? something similar to blackberry interface so i can get used to this phone?
ive been using blackberry for last 2 years and kinda used to the menus. great stable OS but screen is to small to read documents and browse.
thats why i keep trying to switch to HTC but cant figure out the winmo.i keep crashing it even with stock TMO rom and no apps installed.
to be honest theres waaay to much information for this to make sense.
i mean last time i spent all 3-4 weeks reading and downloading and tweaking and reloading roms, and thats i only scratched the surface.
so many people are releasing roms (which is great) but its uber confusing as to which is which.
i understand some people may argue that its a PDA with phone features.
but thats an argument similar to glass half full/half empty.
its a phone/pda. not either. or simply smartphone. and i belive it should act like one.
but with the OS it came with it cant.
theres also few people defending its greatness by saying "so many possibilities for tweaking" i definitely agree with that BUT, tweaking is not the purpose of a smartphone, its something you do when you re bored, not something you HAVE to do to make the phone operate at its full capacity due to many faults that are not worked out from the provider... that is not what people pay 500 dollars for.
i really hate to bring it to another post but this is so damn frustrating.
its like having a fast car sitting in your garage that has a governor set at 40MPH sure you can drive it but what good is it if it only gives 30% of its full potential.
Sounds like you should have done your research before you bought the phone.
sounds like you only got one answer for everything...
instead of actually helping.
fuzzysig said:
sounds like you only got one answer for everything...
instead of actually helping.
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Help? With what? Maybe you could put your questions down in a coherent form and ask them instead of rambling on with your complaints. What exactly do you need help with?
maybe if you could read at all you would see the questions are numbered
please dont waste space by typing dumb replies if you cant answer or help.
wow this is one POS operating system.
the phone froze up and turned off and i missed my father's phone call.
turned it back on and for the last 10 minutes been trying to make a phone call and it doesnt do ****.
what a great fkn phone
what if it was an emergency damn this **** you can all talk **** about blackberry all you want but when i need to make a call it makes a damn call!!!!!
unlike windows mobile phone where you have to build a fkn rocket before it does something for you.
my second attempt at using winmo and its garbage.
fuzzysig said:
1. the phone gets really hot on the bottom back pannel is that normal?(not hot to the point where i cant touch it but pretty damn warm)
searched for overheating etc only found the youtube vid.
2. 2 days i had it at work the battery dies after only few hours of sitting
i let it sit and once in a while push the button to check messages and let it turn the screen off. yesterday after about 5 hours the battery was almost dead. today after only 3-4 hours the battery was dead again. WTF???
3 i had the TP2 when it came out for about 3 weeks, spent lots of time tweaking not much time actually using the phone since it was always bugging out. now got the HD2 and feel like im back to same ol tweaking session ahead of me, trying different roms and radios and all to be able to use the device without so many issues. can someone help me out with the correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom.
and what about android, from what i understand it is at a stage where it can be used for daily phone routines without crashing right? or not yet?
all i want is the features to work without freezing. and lil more settings.
is there a rom that is simpler than sense interface, with less animated graphics? something similar to blackberry interface so i can get used to this phone?
ive been using blackberry for last 2 years and kinda used to the menus. great stable OS but screen is to small to read documents and browse.
thats why i keep trying to switch to HTC but cant figure out the winmo.i keep crashing it even with stock TMO rom and no apps installed.
to be honest theres waaay to much information for this to make sense.
i mean last time i spent all 3-4 weeks reading and downloading and tweaking and reloading roms, and thats i only scratched the surface.
so many people are releasing roms (which is great) but its uber confusing as to which is which.
i understand some people may argue that its a PDA with phone features.
but thats an argument similar to glass half full/half empty.
its a phone/pda. not either. or simply smartphone. and i belive it should act like one.
but with the OS it came with it cant.
theres also few people defending its greatness by saying "so many possibilities for tweaking" i definitely agree with that BUT, tweaking is not the purpose of a smartphone, its something you do when you re bored, not something you HAVE to do to make the phone operate at its full capacity due to many faults that are not worked out from the provider... that is not what people pay 500 dollars for.
i really hate to bring it to another post but this is so damn frustrating.
its like having a fast car sitting in your garage that has a governor set at 40MPH sure you can drive it but what good is it if it only gives 30% of its full potential.
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You didn't find a ROM that was stable? I'm pretty surprised. I'm not trying to bash you like that other guy, but I'm trying to help. If you really did flash different ROM's, chances are ONE of them had to be good.. The battery is dead, it's not normal for that, mine lasts a full day with use, maybe the guy you bought it from ****ed it? idk. Yeah, it does take a bit of tweaking, but seriously, if you flashed like 3 different ROM's, they can't all have been bad..
fuzzysig said:
wow this is one POS operating system.
the phone froze up and turned off and i missed my father's phone call.
turned it back on and for the last 10 minutes been trying to make a phone call and it doesnt do ****.
what a great fkn phone
what if it was an emergency damn this **** you can all talk **** about blackberry all you want but when i need to make a call it makes a damn call!!!!!
unlike windows mobile phone where you have to build a fkn rocket before it does something for you.
my second attempt at using winmo and its garbage.
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yeah winmo is garb. but dude just do a little reserch on how to put linux on your phone so you can run android. ive done it and there is very few problems its basically an evo lol. OORRRR just use HSPL(1,2, or 3) then put a custom winmo rom those dont lagg or anything, personally i hate the custom roms they have for winmo cuz there ugly
so is the android development at a stage where it can be used for daily ops with no major issues?
i was actually thinking of finding a clean T-mo US rom that has been stripped off all the extra software that came with it so when i update opera for example i dont have to keep the old one installed.
unless theres a way to remove all that stuff manually without installing cooked rom?
i finally managed to get rid of that annoying bloated home screen.
i really not a big fan of this fancy clock flipping thru and eating away at my cpu cycles lol.
or a windshield wiper on my screen.
installed the CHT editor.
somewhat more manageable.
now i have a problem when calling.
i call my voicemail or any other phone call. the buttons on the screen dont work
the end call button doesn work and keypad button doesnt work
so when i try to press 7 to delete message theres no keypad...
I hope this is not spam or something , but you shold use a Miri rom , i use v17 and is working grate , also you will can boot andorid from your sd car, and watch out for radio , to be a t mobile compatible , for my it does the job
send it back to htc
if it's the international hd2, then it has a transferrable 2yr warranty so will almost certainly still be under guarantee. i bought an ebay phone (without receipt etc.) with a screen problem, sent it back to htc and they replaced the screen and sent it back in just over a week. ring them up and check the warranty status. needless to say, make sure to flash it back to stock before doing so. good luck!
its a used phone.
but the screen is fine it works on everything else and im happy to say that i didnt nottice any of the screen issues posted here i tested the corner and i tested the drawing and my lines are perfectly straight ( as good as the can be on a touch screen)
but the only screen that doesnt work is the most important lol the phone screen is frozen
The HTC HD2 gets VERY hot sometimes. Especially if you are browsing the web with high brightness. Or, if plugged in the USB to computer (charging) and play around with it.
i dont know if i get lucky with these phones or what.
i have not had so many issues with any of my other phones in fact all my other phones besides winmo were great phones
i figured everything out quickly applied all the tweaks and settings everything worked out great for the most part.
this phone is not it.
i just spent last 2 hours doing the following.
soft reset
wait for bootup(about 10-15 min evrey time)
run memory clean
check task manager(no apps running)
wait till i get to home screen
phone goes to sleep and gets stuck on slider when unlocking.
and when performing any kind of task the phone is turtle slow...
i really am loosing patience with this ****.
it really makes me want to kick bill gates in the nuts for taking my time away that i could have been doing something else besides trying to make this phone work.
so to sum it up.
the phone sucks when its factory
you try to tweak it
and end up even worse because the apps are also buggy and might even cripple it even more.
then you are stuck in a loop of constantly reflashing "new and improved" cooked rom
how many roms does it take to make this damn thing work?
i mean XDA dev is FILLED with roms. yet we still have problems.
so much development with so little effect on stability of the phone.
is there a rom that JUST WORKS?
the one that is aimed at overall stable running system and not some animated clouds on the home screen.
i live in seattle and theres no need for weather on the phone. its simple here. 2 choices either rain or clouds.
i really hope we can get a bootable android soon because this windows tweaking sht is getting old.
damn wtf does anything work properly with winmo?
i loaded HSPL took me about 20 minutes to sync with activesync
now the phone wont sync sith it again you damn i hate this BS.
everything works so randomly its not even funny.
you have to be microsoft certified to operate this assphone?
fuzzysig said:
its a used phone.
but the screen is fine it works on everything else and im happy to say that i didnt nottice any of the screen issues posted here i tested the corner and i tested the drawing and my lines are perfectly straight ( as good as the can be on a touch screen)
but the only screen that doesnt work is the most important lol the phone screen is frozen
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are you an idiot? i know your screen is OK and i know your phone is used. it doesn't matter. HTC's warranty is transferrable. you can send it back and they will fix it. geddit?
are you an idiot? the phone is stock and its not international
the screen works fine can you even read?
its the windows that is broken... theres no need to send it to HTC, all they can do is hard reset and send it back to me.
dont post here if you got nothing usefull to post
im tyring the WCX ILLUMINATI SERIES HD2 EURO/TMOUS 21911 2017 rom at the moment hoping that it will actually work this time with no issues.
the thing i ve notticed is theres tonns of tweaks available, but usually once you start customizing settings the phone ****s itsself and stops working properly.
and you re back default settings, which defies the idea of customizing...
Against my better judgment, I'm going to try to clarify some things for you.
The poster who suggested that you send it in to HTC for repair makes a good point. You are having way too many problems with your device for it to be in proper working order. Although it is not uncommon to get some decent heat comming off the HD2, heat + slow + crash strongly suggests that you have a hardware issue that HTC can resolve via repair. Another issue is that since you bought it used, I assume you have no idea what the phone was put through before it was in your possession.
Unfortunately there isn't really a "correct(latest/most stable/most usefull) rom".
Every user has a different idea of what "best" is.
For example: I can tell you that for me, there isn't anything inherently wrong with the stock ROM. I have been using it since day one and never felt the need to flash a custom one. Also, I have never had to do a hard reset despite the countless tweaks and hacks I have done. For all intents and purposes the HD2 has been a fantastic smartphone for me (and many others here).
Before you bash me for "not helping", please understand that your questions (or should I say, complaints) have already been answered as well as can be. There is no magic "make the phone work good" button that we aren't telling you about. You may not like to hear it but the first poster who said "you should have done your research" may not have been off the mark. It sounds like you would have a better experience with an android phone or an iphone.
Here is your solution simply:
1 - Hard reset
(if that doesn't work)
2 - Flash a custom ROM/Radio that works for you
(if that doesn't work)
3 - Send phone to HTC for repair
(if that doesn't work)
4 - This phone is not for you. Do your research and get an android phone or an iPhone
(if that doesn't work)
5 - Electronics are not for you. Find a cave, invent fire, make stone tools.
thanks for your help fae.
im not a complete noob to this and most of the time can tell when teres a hardware or OS error.
and this is not a first winmo phone i had.
i replaced my first touch pro2 and the replacement had same exact issues and so does this phone.
to be clear, my PC runs perfectly smooth, my blackberrys ran super smooth for the time i had them( i owned 3 of them)even after changing and modding everything i could think of, it seemed to work fine. and the rare times it didnt there were clear signs of what was causing the problem unlike this phone.
i just expect alot more from electronics, i expect the phone to make calls when i need to without freezing, i expect it to load the OS without freezing,
i expect it to run or perform daily tasks without hanging or giving me errors...
i also expect the loaded software to work with eachother without bugs.
like activesync for example. it works 1 time out of 30, i sat there plugging and unplugging my phone for about 20 minutes yesterday, finally made it connect out of the blue. so i flashed new rom while it was on thank god.
is that too much to ask really?
the heat issue i guess is a normal operating/charging temperature i found out after reading.
but give me a fn break i ve spent all my evenings reading and downloading apps and sht to make this thing run smoothly and theres never a stable combination with this it seems like.
im sorry but i dont want to get stuck in a tweaker mode where i spend all my free time chasing after the NEW AND IMPROVED mod that supposed to make it all better.i just want to use my damn phone and add a few more customizing options thats all..
most of you dont realize how much time you spend tweaking because you dont really pay attention to it, you look at it as a hobby of some sort when its not, its just a lame excuse for a bad operating system that should not be released,or should be updated or redesigned.
so far the illuminati rom works great stock but as soon as i add anything to it everything goes to sht.
i add bsb tweaks or cookie homescreen and everything freaks out.
its lagging its barely loading, cant make phone calls, cant use phone screen , program errors and all kinds of crap starts popping up.
the guy had it for a while never had any issues with it but he was using stock rom.
it was in a protective case as well.
fuzzysig said:
thanks for your help fae.
im not a complete noob to this and most of the time can tell when teres a hardware or OS error.
and this is not a first winmo phone i had.
i replaced my first touch pro2 and the replacement had same exact issues and so does this phone.
to be clear, my PC runs perfectly smooth, my blackberrys ran super smooth for the time i had them( i owned 3 of them)even after changing and modding everything i could think of, it seemed to work fine. and the rare times it didnt there were clear signs of what was causing the problem unlike this phone.
i just expect alot more from electronics, i expect the phone to make calls when i need to without freezing, i expect it to load the OS without freezing,
i expect it to run or perform daily tasks without hanging or giving me errors...
i also expect the loaded software to work with eachother without bugs.
like activesync for example. it works 1 time out of 30, i sat there plugging and unplugging my phone for about 20 minutes yesterday, finally made it connect out of the blue. so i flashed new rom while it was on thank god.
is that too much to ask really?
the heat issue i guess is a normal operating/charging temperature i found out after reading.
but give me a fn break i ve spent all my evenings reading and downloading apps and sht to make this thing run smoothly and theres never a stable combination with this it seems like.
im sorry but i dont want to get stuck in a tweaker mode where i spend all my free time chasing after the NEW AND IMPROVED mod that supposed to make it all better.i just want to use my damn phone and add a few more customizing options thats all..
most of you dont realize how much time you spend tweaking because you dont really pay attention to it, you look at it as a hobby of some sort when its not, its just a lame excuse for a bad operating system that should not be released,or should be updated or redesigned.
so far the illuminati rom works great stock but as soon as i add anything to it everything goes to sht.
i add bsb tweaks or cookie homescreen and everything freaks out.
its lagging its barely loading, cant make phone calls, cant use phone screen , program errors and all kinds of crap starts popping up.
the guy had it for a while never had any issues with it but he was using stock rom.
it was in a protective case as well.
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this is comedy gold.
knock! knock! *your phone is broke*
check your warranty status, and if it's covered
SEND IT TO HTC.
and they will send you back a working phone.
how many times do you need to be told the obvious?
As mentioned above, Will you brick your HD2 if you keep flashing new ROM or Keep installing Android for many times?
Because recently i keep trying new ROMs and keep installing Android on my HD2... then call history or missed call record didnt keep in the phone everytime i make call or receive missed call, even i switch back to Window 6.5.
Numerous installation will it destroy your HD2???
If i understand this correctly .. the answer is a VERY easy.. and resounding..
YES!!!!!
Ok now that the scary part is over.. let me explain why.. just like your battery can only be charged and discharged a certain amount of times.. your memory system can only be written and overwritten a certain amount of times...
Now first of all this amount might be 10,000,000 or it might be 10,000 or even a grand.. and there is really no way of knowing when it will finally just be a corrupted system that cannot be written on anymore..
But here once again is ANOTHER catch.. every time you call or text anyone it saves stuff into your phone.. call logs texts messages.. navigation settings gps position.. camera settings and pictures.. location settings from roaming even antenna search and location just from walking around your block.. or hell even sitting still and satellites moving out of range and antennas resetting there position of incoming information signature....
SO
Yes.. you can only write and re write a system "x" amount of times.. but reality is.. someone on a stock rom who has never flashed a single thing.. who is on market place alot , traveling alot.. taking lots of pics.. ect.. has probably approached this threshhold closer than you have.
And
Since we dont know it it will handle 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 megs of re write or 100.. there really isnt any point in worrying about it.
P.S.
Your ps3 remote.. will eventually stop charging.. your hardrive on your laptop will eventually crash.. your ipod will eventually be useless.. your dvr will eventually quit holding movies.. get where im going here? ReWriting damages stuff.. but we have NO way of knowing how much.. and youll probably upgrade before you ever have to
Well-explained bro! Thanks for that... But i assume there are lot more ppl keep flashing new ROMs and androids to test each amazing development!
What bout you? ROM addicts? LOL...
But weird enough, my call logs dont keep records anymore! Any idea that i could solve this problem?
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Well-explained bro! Thanks for that... But i assume there are lot more ppl keep flashing new ROMs and androids to test each amazing development!
What bout you? ROM addicts? LOL...
But weird enough, my call logs dont keep records anymore! Any idea that i could solve this problem?
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If you mean it doesnt keep between flashes.. PIM is getting more and more useless and they need to either update or i think the lot of us are going elsewhere.. there are alot of solutions.
I used to be a rom addict... now im a hardreset addict.. which i guess is almost as bad.. but it seems most roms have hit a wall where the updates are person specific.. so it there isnt something in the log i want .. i just let it pass.. for instance i cant see moving from energys 216XXX rom for a while.
I'd just keep on flashing by heart.. What you are probably aiming for is called 'wear leveling', which indeed means blocks on the memory can be written a finite amount of times.
However, I believe that even with flashing your device daily, it will most likely not fail until you have had your new phone 2 years from now..
And IF it fails because of bad blocks, just send it in for repair.
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I'd just keep on flashing by heart.. What you are probably aiming for is called 'wear leveling', which indeed means blocks on the memory can be written a finite amount of times.
However, I believe that even with flashing your device daily, it will most likely not fail until you have had your new phone 2 years from now..
And IF it fails because of bad blocks, just send it in for repair.
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I just got my HD2 for 2 months and i have been flashing for umpteen times... It is just fun to see how the cooked ROMs like, any new features... Then now i started to feel my HD2 is sick already... Keep freezing and now all the call history doesnt record, such as call out, receive call or even missed call!
Then i do a Hardreset... Still no use... Any idea??
Flashed 1 too many times..
I have been flashing new roms to find out which one helps android run best and I bricked my TMOUS HD2. White screen with green htc letter. I can get to the Hard reset menu but I'm not sure what or where to go from here. Any advice? Thanks.
Jremy said:
I have been flashing new roms to find out which one helps android run best and I bricked my TMOUS HD2. White screen with green htc letter. I can get to the Hard reset menu but I'm not sure what or where to go from here. Any advice? Thanks.
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Hardreset menu, did you press volume up to restore the factory default setting?
could try a task 29 too
so lets get this right if i flash it 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 time it will bugger it up maybe....bugger only 99,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,090 times left
your call history thing is probably android related.....
mine was screwy the first time I booted back to wm...
some info was still there but it wouldn't store anything new
turned out that the date was set to 2011not 2010, check that....
Tried task 29, but failed to do so.... It hanged on black HTC screen with percentage bar... what should i do next to save my lovely HD2??? :`(
Hey now.
I currently have an HTC Desire Z. I rooted it and have had several roms on it. Currently it's running the ICS rom Mexidroid Fried Icecream 3. It's great and I love it. It runs all the apps I use smooth, the keyboard rocks, the battery life is good enough and it basically does everything I want from a phone.
The problem is that the phone is shutting itself off at totally random times. It sometimes happens when I'm doing something, sometimes it happens when it's just laying on my desk. It seems 100% random. It just shuts off without warning and doesn't auto re-start itself. This happens with any rom installed. I tried all the the basic things like full wipe, format SD card etc, but it keeps happening.
Sometimes it happens 3 times in an hour, sometimes it doesn't happen for a week. When it works, it works great and I love it, but I can't really rely on it anymore which is a bit of a deal breaker.
Unless one of you fellas has one last golden tip for me (which I secretly hope because I'm still very happy with this phone), It looks like I'm in the market for a new phone.
My requirements are pretty simple:
Full QWERTY keyboard
Similar sized screen or bigger (3.7")
At least a dual core
Rootable
Compatible with GSM (I live in the Netherlands)
The Droid 4 seems pretty much the only realistic option for me. *edit* scratch that. Just found out it's not a GSM phone...
I saw in another thread here that there isn't much on the horizon in terms of new QWERTY phones, with is a bummer.
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Anyone got any advice?
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Sechzman said:
Anyone got any advice?
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Sell it to someone without telling about auto shutdown and pray it goes off once in a week
First of all,since this is my first post please excuse any noobish things that I might say.
And I have done a reasonable amount of research but was unable to find a solution and would really like to apologise if this has been asked before.
I bought a sgs2 about an year ago and since the very first day I had problems with receiving calls and even making them.
If I'm sitting at one place everything's good but as soon as I move something goes very wrong and the call drops.well if I'm moving I'll be glad to even get or make a call although the signal in the notification shows full.
Now on the stock ROM,the signal strength is about -61dbm 19-20asu but on any other ROMs that I've tried it never goes beyond -89dbm 11-12 asu.
Next I read a lot about flashing different modems that might solve the problem but no.its like nothing seems to work.(BTW I tried a lot of modems for my country and others as well and used getril also to match the ril's as I read about that in forums.)
So im really very pissed with my phone and yesterday I was researching for a solution for the above mentioned problem and came across someone having a problem about losing the baseband and imei after flashing and thanking heavens that at least I don't have that problem.
But WHAM.The same problem hit me right in the face ASA flashed a modem.
So NOW I have a ****ty network problem(please excuse my language but you have no idea what its really like)and now no imei and no baseband.
Luckily I had a backup of the stock ROM and when I restored my phone at least I got the imei and baseband but when I rebooted my phone for something,the problem came back.
This phone is otherwise very nice but I'm really having a hard hard time getting through with this and unfortunately my father won't buy me a new phone for another one year as I promised him I'd use this phone for at least two years since this was way above the budget he gave me.
BTW I'm currently using revolt jb ROM by johnhany.
I'd be really very greatful if one of you millions of geniuses could help me.
If you need any further details in finding a solution I would provide it ASA I see what it is that you might want to know.
Thank you in advance.
Moving to Q&A - Read this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763193
Hello sir.
Well sorry for posting it in the wrong place but were you trying to give me the solution to my problem or just telling me to post a question in the q and a forum?
Sorry for being so dumb.
Oh.My bad.just read it clearly. Sorry for posting at a wrong place.