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Hi there. Why am i getting only about 1000 quadrant score, while everyone getting somewhat like 1500 on the same roms?
Do i have a different hardware or what?
Different roms will get you different results. Gingerbread roms appear to run around 1000+ while Froyo roms run closer to 1300+. Run it a few times and you should get a better score. Quadrant doesn't really matter too much though. What's important is how the phone feels for you not what a graphic tells you.
Thanks for reply, but the problem is that i'm having different results than people on the same rom.
And does the quadrant score affects on how smooth the games are running?
Do you have a lot of apps installed on your internal memory? The "cleaner" the phone is the more optimized. Junk apps will definitely decrease performance. As for running games, quadrant doesn't affect how smooth your game is running but does show performance measures that could be related to efficiencies of your phone. Theoretically, the higher the quadrant score the better your phone will be at running your games.
What file system are you using...quadrant takes your free space for apps in score consideration..
If your using data2sd and have 2gb for internal(ext2,3,4) then quadrant is going to show a better score than those on rfs.
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Do you have a lot of apps installed on your internal memory?
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No, i have taken stats from fresh install, also tried different roms, but never got higher than 1000.
rudolf895
No, i am not using data2sd and i guess those people who get higher score than me not using it too.
Build.prop
Need to edit.
refer to reinderro's build thread, which I can't find now.
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rudolf895
No, i am not using data2sd and i guess those people who get higher score than me not using it too.
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Oh ok..
But my point was having lesser apps and having more. Internal space will increase the quadrant..
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Which rom(s) are you using?
FYI - Fresh install of 2.1 will only get you around 500. JIT enabled gets you around 600+, removing additional junk apps will get you 700+. 2.2 Roms will get you over 1000+ easily. Z's Froyo beta 3 got me around 1500+. Others including Gingerbread hover around 900-1300.
I have tried CM7.0.3 J020c and trip's froyo.
In both roms my quadrant is about 1000, but for other people trip's rom giving them about 1400-1500.
I am on wolfbreaks rom..(as per my signature)
The only other thing i do is move all aps to the sd card that can be moved and leave the ones with widgets on my internal memory.
I average about 1450 to 1550 with my best score of 1609.
Run it a few times as well..
On J's rom I run around 900-1200. Never tried running quadrant on Trip's froyo but on his Arc rom I get around 1000-1250. Again, quadrant isn't that big of a deal. Your games will run fine on your phone. Remember, try to have more free internal memory and get rid of junk apps you don't need.
on wolfbreaks rom. i move all apps to the sd card (except widgets)
1300 - 1400
Okay, thank you, guys, quadrant isn't important, but it's kinda wierd that i'm having lower stats than other people.
Litaskull said:
Okay, thank you, guys, quadrant isn't important, but it's kinda wierd that i'm having lower stats than other people.
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Its not weird at all. Everyone has different apps and settings which affect benchmarks differently. Higher Quadrant scores don't neccessarily translate to better performance either so why does it matter. Also in order to get reliable scores in quadrant you need to run it twice in a row as the OS will kill apps and adjust as the test runs the first time and the second test is always higher and more consistent.
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This is my first tome to start a thread, hopefully I do it right
I am just confused on how ROMs show High Benchmark results in there screenshots, but when I try to do a benchmark on my Ace I get a VERY Low result compared to what it's supposed to be, Though I have made sure no apps are running in the background, and cleared my RAM, even after checking the Media tweak, Still Very low result, Can anyone Clarify me on how to make my phone better or is that I am doing something wrong?
I am using the glmst v2 KPO ROM
Don't even worry about it. With coderom I had 1927 max. Now with gingerReal I only get 1000+, but I feel this rom much better. So I dont rely anymore on quadrant scores. I suggest you to do the same.
even if u got trillion benchmark score it doesnt mean anything.. nowadays benchmark score is crap, doesnt mean a squat. i said that because gingerbread had some problem with quadrant, thus its result is inconsistent. even there are rom makers that spoof quadrant score by tinkering with phone i/o value to make their rom looks like it got highest benchmark score. i even found an app here on xda that automate that i/o spoof, install it and u'll get godlike quadrant score.
edited: the app to spoof benchmark score like i said is that in skynet post below. that should spike anyone quadrant score to 5000
Quadrant benchmark does not mean anything....its only relevant for lagfix or filesystem changes or some kernel tweaks. Otherwise it can be hacked easily to show high benchmark scores. Someone even showed quadrant benchmark above 2100 in ace by an app which hacked quadrant .
Yes there is even an app called quadrant booster which utilizes i/o hack to boost scores by Doomlord here-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17110408
Ok thanks guys..... Its that it gets annoying when u dont get what the rom promises ya
Well, its just two since since i started playing around geekily with my Galaxy Tab P7500, 16 GB. I downloaded Antutu Benchmark and got an expected score, but then I checked their leaderboard, I found that my rank is quite less than the people who own the same device. Their scores are in 7000s, while mine is like 6800 neighbourhood.
Is their a way that I can improve the benchmark to that level? By the way, I overclocked it to 1400Mhz using pershoot's kernel and Antutu CPU Master and also modified my sdcard read cache to 4096. I tried googling but dint find any methods. Plus, I also need to improve my GPU performance, just in case.
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Well, its just two since since i started playing around geekily with my Galaxy Tab P7500, 16 GB. I downloaded Antutu Benchmark and got an expected score, but then I checked their leaderboard, I found that my rank is quite less than the people who own the same device. Their scores are in 7000s, while mine is like 6800 neighbourhood.
Is their a way that I can improve the benchmark to that level? By the way, I overclocked it to 1400Mhz using pershoot's kernel and Antutu CPU Master and also modified my sdcard read cache to 4096. I tried googling but dint find any methods. Plus, I also need to improve my GPU performance, just in case.
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while taking benchmarks, apart from overclocking to 1.4GHz, you need to ensure that you have the governor set to 'performance' or 'lazy' in setcpu. you also need to kill all background applications that are current running, settings->applications->manage applications->running->kill. this ensures that you get the maximum possible benchmark.
also try RieGo's kernel. its got experimental GPU overclocking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328023
ohk, well, those good benchmark guidelines were followed by me. Anyways, thanks for reply. I need to try that kernel you've advised.
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ohk, well, those good benchmark guidelines were followed by me. Anyways, thanks for reply. I need to try that kernel you've advised.
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I think Riego's GPU OC kernel is not working .. i think pershoot tried it before already .. he took it out because it doesnt make any difference.
I'm debating on taking back my device due to getting such low stock Quadrant scores. Around 850 stock on average.
What's everyone else getting? Am I the only one with such low scores? I appreciate any feedback!
Benchmarks are worthless in general, Quadrant is incredibly worthless because it doesn't break down the scores and is EASILY gamed.
For example, disabling per-file fsync on an ext4 system gains you 600 points or so instantly.
Enabling Stagefright on Samsungs gets you 500-1000 points but breaks media playback.
I'm not talking about using mods at all though. I'm just saying I'm getting half of what I've seen as the average STOCK 1Ghz score for this device. My 800 @ 1Ghz vs. others 1600-ish @ 1GHz. I just want to know if anyone else is getting around my scores (800ish) without mods.
What other devices?
I get about 1300-1400 stock...
Hi,
I just ran it on my (US/rooted) SGP5, and got 947.
I noticed that on the comparison graph, there's Samsung Galaxy S, that had slightly lower number ...
Jim
P.S. FYI, I used Fast Boot, to kill all processes, just before running the Quadrant test. I'm not sure if that affected anything.
BTW, Quadrant gives HEAVY weighting to file I/O scores - so Voodoo Lagfix-enabled devices and native-ext4 ones will smoke RFS devices.
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I get about 1300-1400 stock...
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Hi,
Wow! Do you know how you got such scores? What have you done to your device (and what is it)?
As I posted, I just got 947 on my SGP5. It's stock, other than being rooted.
Jim
Entropy,
Your completely missing my point... Here it is again. "My SGP5 is getting around 850~average scores on Quadrant stock, as in, in the state it was when I took it out of the box. Reviewers and other owners of this device are getting much higher quadrant scores with their STOCK devices as well.
When I overclock to 1.3GHz, I get around 1400 average while other SGP5's get around 2k+ at 1.3GHz. I just want to see how many are also experiencing such low scores as I am.
As I said, many of the reviewers online say that the SGP5 gets around 1400-1600 with Quadrant without any modifications or rooting. I get around 850. Please stop with the "Well Quadrant isn't accurate because, if you mod it like this.. you get this", I'll say it again, My. Device. Is. Stock. It's not modified, I didn't do anything to it to boost the score or lower it.
You're missing my point.
Quadrant is unreliable and inconsistent as hell. It can vary by hundreds of points from run to run, it's easily gamed, it will do weird unpredictable things if you look at it the wrong way. Plain and simple, it sucks and its results are utterly and completely worthless.
You ARE benchmarking with the CPU governor set to performance, right? Benchmarks with the governor in play are even more worthless and variable.
I just saw 600 points difference between two runs with the same kernel - 992 once, 1619 the next.
I've gotten consistent bench marking results every time, consistently low, but consistant.... Do you own a SGP and can say this from experience or just because you have a similar Android device? I actually own a SGP5 and haven't seen the "992 once, 1619 next" at all... I've never gotten above 1619 or ever had a jump of more than 100 on the same frequency.
Unless your testing this for yourself on the device in question, please stop once again...
Yes, I own an SGP 5. I unboxed it last night. I actually ran Quadrant again, 1700 the next time around. Just more evidence that it's crappy and meaningless. Benchmarks in general suck, but Quadrant is especially bad. At least Antutu is fairly consistent AND breaks out scores by category.
It's consistent with every other device I've ever owned - run-to-run variances of a few hundred points.
Note that over time, your scores will go down on this device because RFS sucks and becomes slower as it's used, and as I said, I/O performance is weighted HEAVILY.
RFS sucking is a known problem with old Samsungs, that's why Voodoo Lagfix exists.
Returning a device based on Quadrant scores is stupid on an epic scale given what a horrifically worthless and inconsistent benchmark it is...
Around 1300.
Heh, anyways.
What's Voodoo lagfix? And RTS? If you don't mind me asking, not familiar with those two. And so far it performs pretty well @ 1.5GHz with 2000+ quad scores, downloading Antutu now.
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Heh, anyways.
What's Voodoo lagfix? And RTS? If you don't mind me asking, not familiar with those two. And so far it performs pretty well @ 1.5GHz with 2000+ quad scores, downloading Antutu now.
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RFS is ? File System - it's some special Samsung file system that just kinda sucks.
ext4 is the current standard Android filesystem format, which is MUCH better.
(think of it as being like NTFS vs FAT on a PC)
Voodoo Lagfix is a set of initramfs scripts that automatically convert RFS partitions to ext4, improving read/write performance a lot.
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RFS is ? File System - it's some special Samsung file system that just kinda sucks.
ext4 is the current standard Android filesystem format, which is MUCH better.
(think of it as being like NTFS vs FAT on a PC)
Voodoo Lagfix is a set of initramfs scripts that automatically convert RFS partitions to ext4, improving read/write performance a lot.
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Ah interesting, I looked into the Lagfix; Think it would work the same for the SGP as it does for the galaxy?
ZaIINN said:
Ah interesting, I looked into the Lagfix; Think it would work the same for the SGP as it does for the galaxy?
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Yes - it's on my todo list once I get CWM to play nice.
So, everybody(somebody)((nobody)), explain to me the advantages of ext4 w/o journaling. I understand that write speeds for sd cards(?) is supposed to be better. My question is, where do we see the advantages? I ran an antutu benchmark on my phone and the write speeds were not the insane 150mb/s-ish write speed scores that Neutrino did when he posted that photo on his thread a while back, something more like a class 10 score IIRC. Anybody that can shed some light on this will receive my thanks!
Running Neutrino v2.0 EE
Nick
Take a look at this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807.
He explains well about boosting sd cards speed. You can do that by using Rom Toolbox which you can download in the Market. If you want to try it with Rom Toolbox, it's under Performance -> SD Boost and you'd like to change the default value, normally 128, to 1024 or 2048.
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So, everybody(somebody)((nobody)), explain to me the advantages of ext4 w/o journaling. I understand that write speeds for sd cards(?) is supposed to be better. My question is, where do we see the advantages? I ran an antutu benchmark on my phone and the write speeds were not the insane 150mb/s-ish write speed scores that Neutrino did when he posted that photo on his thread a while back, something more like a class 10 score IIRC. Anybody that can shed some light on this will receive my thanks!
Running Neutrino v2.0 EE
Nick
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Everything just runs faster and smoother. You may not notice it, but if you revert back to a stock ROM, you will feel frustrated as it'll feel much slower/choppier.
And those insane write speeds were due to GT-S mod, not because of Ext4.
Ahh that was my blunder. Thanks for clarifying.
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