I've been running some really basic tests on the new Roms and kernels that are starting to pop up and I want to know if any of you agree with me on this. While using Cherryblur v1.4d and the stock ATT kernel I can get around 3500 on Quadrant Standard (I know its not the best benchmarking tool out there). Thats on a fresh reboot 2nd run. Then I flashed Faux123 OC, pushed the clock speed to max 1.1 and min 1.1, set on boot, ran the same test. Fresh reboot, 2nd run and got the exact same score...weird. So if this is the case whats the point of the OC? Has anyone else seen similar results? Or is there perhaps something I'm missing?
Hi,
You are only overclocking by 10%, even if it was 50%, Quadrant is not a cpu benchmark, what will impact it most is the 3D bits and the database tests. Data2Ext on the htc legend will almost double the scores with a fast external sd card used for data.
For these kernels you should be asking yourself, where did the source come from and is it a later version than what is compiled stock, and was it even designed for the Atrix?
Cheers!
Ya...quadrant isn't really designed for CPU but I'm pretty sure it takes it into some type of performance boost. Like on my Nexus the same .1 overclock boosts the Q score a good bit.
Yeah, quadrant scores are sketchy at best.
My cm7 nook color OC'd to 1300 scored 3100+
Hi all
I'm using the TSM Resurrection v0.1 ROM released by TeamSBrissen. Running comradesven's kernel he made.
I'm curious as to why my quadrant scores are so horrible. See these screenshots:
(running at overclock 1400mhz. No undervolting)
Any ideas are very much appreciated. I also tried undervolting all steps to -250mv, and my phone did crash, so I'm sure its reporting properly
Have you flashed the adrenaline v7 tweak? Also you might want to try backing down the overclock speed. Start at stock settings and run quadrant after each change, when the score drops, revert back to the last settings.
Quadrant is worthless. If you are personally satisfied with your phone's performance then that's all you need.
sageDieu said:
Quadrant is worthless. If you are personally satisfied with your phone's performance then that's all you need.
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this is very true. I dont use it for a peak number, but rather a guage to see if my changes yielded better/worse results.
ANTUTU BENCHMARKING :- The "OPEN" Discussion (11/12/12) 10125 BEST SCORE SO FAR
First things First
I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY
Secondly
TO ME
Benchmarks DO gauge the ACTUAL Performance of MY phone (when pushed)
right your still reading
HELLO
BENCHMARKING
I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, and hboot's , experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score
REGARDLESS OF BATTERYLIFE.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
Rom:- HTC Stock ICS LATEST
Kernel:-Yoda 10.1
Tweaks:- Pedja kernel tweak app v3.3.3/ Chainfire 3D/ Pimp My Rom
oc'd @ max and min 1.836 ghz
Uv @ 1312 mv
performance CPU Governor
I/0 Scheduler SIO @ 2048kb sd cache
No vsync
my score was]
10125
Please leave detailed Descriptions of
ROM
KERNEL
PATCHES
CPU GOVERNOR
I/O SCHEDULER
SD CLASS/SIZE
OV/UV CHANGES
THANKS IN ADVANCE
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argument invalid, benchmark numbers does not equal performance. research how to trick benchmarking apps.
gav-collins1983 said:
first things first, I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY. secondly, TO ME, benchmarks DO gauge the performance of MY phone, ......
right your still reading, hello,
benchmarking, I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score, regardless of battery life.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
leedroids rom v 5.3.0
leedroids kernel v4.1.0
system tuner pro 1.863 Max 192 min (added 0.25mv to 1.863 frequencie because it seemed to struggle)
and leedroids ondemand forced dual core patch
my score was 7004
rant over , lol
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Jesus Christ is this what this site has came to?
bloodrain954 said:
argument invalid, benchmark numbers does not equal performance. research how to trick benchmarking apps.
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it's not an argument, I clearly state, that this is to "ME" on "MY" phone,
also, I'm not trying to trick my benchmarking app, what I've seen over 28 weeks is a clear indication, to "ME" on "MY" phone , that ui is smoother and faster on higher benchmark scores, simple as that
Well duh, having an overclocked CPU results in higher benchmarks because the phone can complete things faster. This translates to a smoother UI.
The problem is that benchmarks are affected by so many things that might not reflect accurately the performance of the phone. And comparing different phones is useless because of skins and different hardware performing better in tests but worse in real life.
Faster CPU = higher benchmarks and smoother UI. That doesn't mean that higher benchmarks = smoother UI.
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SoraX64 said:
Well duh, having an overclocked CPU results in higher benchmarks because the phone can complete things faster. This translates to a smoother UI.
The problem is that benchmarks are affected by so many things that might not reflect accurately the performance of the phone. And comparing different phones is useless because of skins and different hardware performing better in tests but worse in real life.
Faster CPU = higher benchmarks and smoother UI. That doesn't mean that higher benchmarks = smoother UI.
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it does to me from what I've seen, I've made that white clear,
what's with all the hating on evo 3d , we never had this in the desire hd forums.
gav-collins1983 said:
it does to me from what I've seen, I've made that white clear,
what's with all the hating on evo 3d , we never had this in the desire hd forums.
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Lololol your not in Kansas anymore
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one time, at band camp...
sent from Evo
SoraX64 said:
Well duh, having an overclocked CPU results in higher benchmarks because the phone can complete things faster. This translates to a smoother UI.
The problem is that benchmarks are affected by so many things that might not reflect accurately the performance of the phone. And comparing different phones is useless because of skins and different hardware performing better in tests but worse in real life.
Faster CPU = higher benchmarks and smoother UI. That doesn't mean that higher benchmarks = smoother UI.
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No, not, duhhhhh, overclocking also causes instability in some cases, more so if incorrect/not optimized voltages per frequency and governor in kernel, and smooth ness is affected
gav-collins1983 said:
first things first, I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY. secondly, TO ME, benchmarks DO gauge the performance of MY phone, ......
right your still reading, hello,
benchmarking, I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score, regardless of battery life.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
leedroids rom v 5.3.0
leedroids kernel v4.1.0
system tuner pro 1.863 Max 192 min (added 0.25mv to 1.863 frequencie because it seemed to struggle)
and leedroids ondemand forced dual core patch
my score was 7004
rant over , lol
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People will hate me for this, and I waited a long time to post this on this thread, but I just have to do it.
Cool Story Bro.
tgruendler said:
People will hate me for this, and I waited a long time to post this on this thread, but I just have to do it.
Cool Story Bro.
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:thumbup:
From the Beast : Galaxy Note
gav-collins1983 said:
first things first, I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY. secondly, TO ME, benchmarks DO gauge the performance of MY phone, ......
right your still reading, hello,
benchmarking, I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score, regardless of battery life.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
leedroids rom v 5.3.0
leedroids kernel v4.1.0
system tuner pro 1.863 Max 192 min (added 0.25mv to 1.863 frequencie because it seemed to struggle)
and leedroids ondemand forced dual core patch
my score was 7004
rant over , lol
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7000 score in Antutu @ 1.86 GHz? That seems low... I right around the same score at 1.65GHz
gav-collins1983 said:
first things first, I HAVE THE EXTENDED BATTERY. secondly, TO ME, benchmarks DO gauge the performance of MY phone, ......
right your still reading, hello,
benchmarking, I've had my phone since day one of the uk release, and have flashed many many many roms, and kernels, experimenting with different oc programs, governors, frequencies and voltages, and ui in comparison to smoothness is greatly improved the higher the antutu score, regardless of battery life.
that said.
the best concoction I cooked up, with the best ingredients from many experienced chefs (so far) is
leedroids rom v 5.3.0
leedroids kernel v4.1.0
system tuner pro 1.863 Max 192 min (added 0.25mv to 1.863 frequencie because it seemed to struggle)
and leedroids ondemand forced dual core patch
my score was 7004
rant over , lol
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*Sips his Earl Grey* You like high numbers? You clearly did not like high numbers when you tipped me for my "bedroom" services!
gav-collins1983 said:
No, not, duhhhhh, overclocking also causes instability in some cases, more so if incorrect/not optimized voltages per frequency and governor in kernel, and smooth ness is affected
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Anybody who knows anything about overclocking knows to make sure it's stable..
Seriously, if you think your high quadrants means your phone outperforms the leaked scores of a quad core Tegra 3 phone by almost double, then you're in denial.
Let me put this in words you can understand.
Faster clock speed = faster graphics and calculations.
Faster clock speed = higher benches.
Higher benches != better performance. They're just linked.
Sure, if you're pulling over 4000 in quadrant, your device is performing quite well. But that doesn't make your Evo 3D a super phone twice as good as the rest of ours.
There are so many factors involved that simply saying "my quads are high, and that indicates performance" is ignorant and naive. Once you can explain to me how your phone "performs" better than a quad core device, then maybe I'll spare your thoughts my time.
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I can't wait to see where this thread goes from here. Also, my phone is completely usable, fast, smooth, and has amazing battery life and I just scored an 1100 on Antutu. Benchmarks are worthless except to raise your eEsteem. See my thread about GeekBench from a few nights ago for proof.
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Yes, as I stated in the other thread, quadrant is simply the equivalent of measuring mobile phone penis size and nothing more.
From the Beast : Galaxy Note
7000? Pics or get out.
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my score was OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What! Over 9000! THERE'S NO WAY THAT CAN BE RIGHT!
Here is my issue, i decided to randomly run quadrant and found out i had bad results.
Around 3000, i had very low memory and i/o scores, memory being 2000 and i/o around 5000. I then flashed speedmod kernel and got even lower results, 2811 quadrant and 1500 memory, which is far from the default expected values. This happened in GB whith checrom V6 and Siyah Kerner, CM9 and SlimICS with both speedmod and fluxx kernel.
Antutu scores are lower then 6000 ranging from 4900 with SlimICS 5400 with GB and 5300 with CM9, i got back to Slim and cleared cache and got 5900, but quandrant still was performing poorly
You shouldn't rely on quadrant scores to decide whether the ROM is good or not, you should make that judgement for yourself. Sometimes, developers of ROMs make tweaks to purposely increase the quadrant scores.
Casterina said:
You shouldn't rely on quadrant scores to decide whether the ROM is good or not, you should make that judgement for yourself. Sometimes, developers of ROMs make tweaks to purposely increase the quadrant scores.
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I was just trying to see if there was something wrong with my phone. Not that i would keep the highest numbered ROM. That's why i got worried, the scores were low in almost all of them
Really want to test, flash stock rom and see the numbers flying
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you can try using different kernels with different cpu governors to see a difference in benchmarks.
Bench marking and quadrant scores are for *******.
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Basic problem is benchmarks vary from one run to another and are not reliable .
jje
Will a higher score change the way you use your phone?
What difference do the scores mean? Does it make your phone unuseable when you get a lower score? What answers are you hoping to get?
Dont use benchmarks....they arent needed, we already know our phone is fast...just use the phone and enjoy it
mattyh77 said:
Bench marking and quadrant scores are for *******.
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lmao
Its all relative to the rom you're using. CM9 I found scored lower on benchmarks, but on real life usage people report better performance
CM7 scored higher for me then stock based GB roms, quite comfortably. So that was the other way round.
However, WanamLite ICS which im using now scores between 6200 and 6300 for me, highest being 6330.
Again its all very relative to the rom you're using. If you're really that bothered flash a stock based ICS rom, run some benchmarks, see the higher values, get content, then either stick or go back to CM based roms with whatever wisdom you've aquired!
By the way all the above was using Antutu.