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Yep...minor victory? Let's wait for the next "press release" before we start jumping for joy.
In other words we see you are mad but we really don't care but we acknowledge your issue. Now kick rocks.
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Cares said:
Yep...minor victory? Let's wait for the next "press release" before we start jumping for joy.
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The fact that they responded the same day is saying something. I really don't want to get a Samsung because of the lack of updates.
So... is there going to be a new thread every 5 minutes now ?
We must unite and destroy their credibiltiy sire ....wait what....
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Let's see what they say. This doesn't just effect HTC but the Evo 4G has been their top selling handset. Granted, Nexus 4G is what we (well, lots of us) will go to but the ability to customize our devices could easily move people away from Sprint.
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The fact that they responded the same day is saying something. I really don't want to get a Samsung because of the lack of updates.
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Not sure what updates you are referring to but the Nexus gets updates first in most cases as it's "pure Google". I guess this might be bad if you are a believer in and reliant on Sense but for the AOSP group, it's AOK because it's what we are all trying to get to anyway.
I want to stick with HTC and the Evo/Evo 3D but may have to jump ship. Look on the bright side, at least our wireless provider HAS the next best thing.
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Not sure what updates you are referring to but the Nexus gets updates first in most cases as it's "pure Google". I guess this might be bad if you are a believer in and reliant on Sense but for the AOSP group, it's AOK because it's what we are all trying to get to anyway.
I want to stick with HTC and the Evo/Evo 3D but may have to jump ship. Look on the bright side, at least our wireless provider HAS the next best thing.
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I think he was probably referring to the Galaxy S II. A lot of people see the NS4G as old tech and not worth the purchase. Accordingly, they see the SGS2 as the next best thing if the EVO3D will retain the status of the locked bootloader.
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The fact that they responded the same day is saying something. I really don't want to get a Samsung because of the lack of updates.
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That's pretty much how I read it. They're probably going to give some generic statement about why they're doing what they're doing and not change their position one bit.
Man if they overturn this decision I will buy an EVO 3D for every member on here! Not getting my hopes up though.
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Man if they overturn this decision I will buy an EVO 3D for every member on here! Not getting my hopes up though.
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the cant over turn it as the devices are already made and ready to go. if anything they could allow it to be unlocked via an OTA but that is unlikely.
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the cant over turn it as the devices are already made and ready to go. if anything they could allow it to be unlocked via an OTA but that is unlikely.
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I think your sig should say: xda's numero uno hater
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the cant over turn it as the devices are already made and ready to go. if anything they could allow it to be unlocked via an OTA but that is unlikely.
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or they could release the god-damned key they encrypt the sig with.
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I think your sig should say: xda's numero uno hater
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no not at all as i was going to get this phone as well. i owned the evo just like most of you did. im just saying them correcting this at launch probably won't happen, if at all.
just as us nexus users know damn well if our radio issues are hardware related samsung or sprint will not issue a recall.
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I think he was probably referring to the Galaxy S II. A lot of people see the NS4G as old tech and not worth the purchase. Accordingly, they see the SGS2 as the next best thing if the EVO3D will retain the status of the locked bootloader.
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Makes sense... I just get antsy when I'm up for an upgrade and I sometimes forget not everyone is on the 12 month plan. Nexus, yes... Galaxy and new carrier, I never even considered it but the 3D situation surely does suck all the way around.
Sprint is geting the Galaxy S II.. It will be called the Samsung Within, and it will be the exact same as Verizon and AT&T's... No Keyboard.
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Yep...minor victory? Let's wait for the next "press release" before we start jumping for joy.
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Sprint is geting the Galaxy S II.. It will be called the Samsung Within, and it will be the exact same as Verizon and AT&T's... No Keyboard.
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Zero confirmation other than a random website.
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Man if they overturn this decision I will buy an EVO 3D for every member on here! Not getting my hopes up though.
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We have witnesses and will hold you to that!
Please do not take this the wrong way as I am very thankful to xda and all of the developers here but didn't we get source a few days ago? Is that what we needed to get things started rom and kernel wise... or are we still waiting on something else? Sorry... its just that it seems to be a little dead so im just wondering as my 30 days are coming to an end... again I mean this very sincerely please donot not flame ...
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Please do not take this the wrong way as I am very thankful to xda and all of the developers here but didn't we get source a few days ago? Is that what we needed to get things started rom and kernel wise... or are we still waiting on something else? Sorry... its just that it seems to be a little dead so im just wondering as my 30 days are coming to an end... again I mean this very sincerely please donot not flame ...
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I was wondering the same thing.. part of what makes a device fun (for me) is the ability to satisfy my urge to tweak it, flash it, and all that crap.. I miss flashing new stuff every couple days..
Although, to be fair, this device is pretty damn slick out of the box..
still.. I'd love to have something to flash .. I'm not gonna root till CM7 is available and stable.. heh. (reminds me of zanderman and the Epic)
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I would really suggest unlocking, flash Alien rom, relock, use bootstrap, make a backup, restore the backup, wipe data and then flash star wars rom + update, wipe cache and then flash alien theme. You will get so much better battery life it is unbelievable, plus it's super smooth.
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i might consider it.. i'm waiting to molest my phone at least until I decide if I'm going to keep it or get the GS2
I raped my Epic as soon as I got it home hahahaha...
I haven't popped the cherry on my wife's Nesus S 4G yet.. just waiting till after our 30days.. (you know, waiting till we're committed haha)
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I was wondering the same thing.. part of what makes a device fun (for me) is the ability to satisfy my urge to tweak it, flash it, and all that crap.. I miss flashing new stuff every couple days..
Although, to be fair, this device is pretty damn slick out of the box..
still.. I'd love to have something to flash .. I'm not gonna root till CM7 is available and stable.. heh. (reminds me of zanderman and the Epic)
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Lol we are in the exact same boat .... just wondering if things will pick up or what....
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patience is a virtue rarely practiced. development will come. shabby is getting his photon on tuesday
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patience is a virtue rarely practiced. development will come. shabby is getting his photon on tuesday
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Im patient dude ... just wanted to know if it was going to pick up or if it would stay this quite... its an awesome phone and I want to see what this baby can do ....
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Unfortunately some of the best developers on this forum have turned into the evil apple fanboy twins in denial and refuse to leave HTC products. Despite the obvious superiority of the Photon over the Evo 3D, they refuse to pick one up simply because it is Motorola. Their argument is "It's Motorola and they don't unlock bootloaders", but they haven't even looked to see that it is unlocked. Be it what it may, we have kennethpenn and seanzscreams and I love them both dearly for putting all the effort they have into two great ROM's. This phone has been everything I want and more even on stock software, so I'm not upset of the Evo forum /bb/tards don't find their way into this section and it remains quiet here. Granted I'd love to see the power of this phone be unlocked, I doubt it'll happen with HTC and Samsung holding so many developers by the balls with the bells and whistles of nonfunctioning products.
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The thing about seanscreams and Kenneth penn is there developing for our photons and they don't even own one. I think us photon users should throw them a small donation or something.
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Im patient dude ... just wanted to know if it was going to pick up or if it would stay this quite... its an awesome phone and I want to see what this baby can do ....
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It will. Our phone is so similar to the Atrix that they will be able to help as well. I am not getting into the hype of the SGS2. Will be a great phone but the Photon is much more of a power house. We have only just got source. Once AOSP gets ported things will be lovely.
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It will. Our phone is so similar to the Atrix that they will be able to help as well. I am not getting into the hype of the SGS2. Will be a great phone but the Photon is much more of a power house. We have only just got source. Once AOSP gets ported things will be lovely.
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I agree with u. I'm sorry. I had an evo4g and the 3d just doesn't live up to its predecessor. The photon was just the better choice
I wish there was an online school, maybe run by the devs, to give guidance on how to create roms and kernels. I know there are forums with directions, but allot of it I just don't understand. Unless a dev takes you under his wing and explains it to you, it is very difficult to learn. Maybe some type of online chat and examples, and there would be a membership fee to attend. This way the devs would be compensated for their time. If there were say hundreds people enrolled, the cost would be minimal. Just thinking out loud. Wish I new more so I could help the community. I have already learned more about it than I ever thought I would, do to lack of development with some of the phones I have chosen. Either way, I'm keeping this Mopho!
once i get my photon (sometime next week) i have plans to work on an acs rom.. i imagine it might hold some interest
It got my attention!
Makes happy shabby
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once i get my photon (sometime next week) i have plans to work on an acs rom.. i imagine it might hold some interest
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Thanks Shabby, the one thing I miss from my Epic is the SFR Rom, still have the ACS updater app (though nothing to download lol). And Bricky, I am totally with you. I don't consider myself stupid (heck I run a QA group), and have been working with MS products for longer than I care to admit, and I even bought the
"Android for beginners", which is ok, but there is alot to consume, it would be great to have a mentor. I'd love to help out, hell I'd be happy to test ROM's, the more knowledge the better.
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once i get my photon (sometime next week) i have plans to work on an acs rom.. i imagine it might hold some interest
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You told me Tuesday
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You told me Tuesday
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as a technicality, tuesday IS 'sometime next week'
I would totally love to sport an ACS "Mo-Pho'kin" ROM bwahahaha
(it's a spinn off mo-pho and the SRF shuriken... yeah, that's it )
as an aside, I have a methodical mind and would love to read and apply... so tell us Shabby, where's a good place to start (to learn to develop).. point me and I shall read... hah
Lol that would be such a cool name ...."one bad MoPho'kin Rom"...
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I believe there are a few devs working hard with the new source. Hopefully we will see something after this weekend I also sure wouldn't mind a lazy man's root and unlock method like the folks in the evo section have
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Lol that would be such a cool name ...."one bad MoPho'kin Rom"...
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i would totally be honored if he used it... heh
So I read this article today, which was released yesterday, and the OG is beginning the world-wide release to 50 countries starting this month. Here's part of a quote from the CEO of LG Mobile,
“With the latest Jelly Bean OS and improved software, Optimus G will make a strong case for the title of ultimate premium 4G LTE smartphone.”
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I found this very interesting because it appears these newly released devices will have the JB update at launch. Either way, I like what I see here. I understand many of you are using the ROMs available to us through development, but I can't afford to make any mistakes with my phone, so I prefer stock. Either way, this is good news for all of us.
LG Newsroom Article is found here.
Not getting excited. We'll see when it happens
They were speaking about the international version. AT&T still needs to give our update the two-month treatment. But still it's a good sign that most of the LGOGs will have JB. It should make AT&T speed up their release.
I wish either AT&T or LG or both would get their act together. I want me some Jelly Beans!
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Who cares about AT&T, just release the source code already!
Once our devs can get their hands on it, we'll be golden.
Well, as ATT is the second largest mobile provider in the country, tons of people care about ATT getting this rollout.
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Well, as ATT is the second largest mobile provider in the country, tons of people care about ATT getting this rollout.
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Too bad AT&T Doesn't care about AT&T getting it.
AT&T took the GB update that Dell gave them for the Streak and threw it in the trash.
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AT&T took the GB update that Dell gave them for the Streak and threw it in the trash.
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Being a former Streak owner I couldn't agree with you more. AT&T and Dell both screwed everyone over with their use and development on the Streak platform... and it was such a great phone!
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Too bad AT&T Doesn't care about AT&T getting it.
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They care so little about Jelly Bean, that they got it for the GSIII?
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Well, as ATT is the second largest mobile provider in the country, tons of people care about ATT getting this rollout.
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Well, as XDA is a development site, tons of people only care about the source code.
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I understand that. I'm merely pointing out that this site contains less than 1% of the total users of mobile devices out there. When thinking about why companies do what they do, try to look at the big picture. The big picture is to do what makes the masses happy, and not the select few. Obviously there's a middle ground somewhere, but huge companies can't afford the middle ground, they have investors to win over. Wow, I just got into a territory I really didn't expect to haha!
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I understand that. I'm merely pointing out that this site contains less than 1% of the total users of mobile devices out there. When thinking about why companies do what they do, try to look at the big picture. The big picture is to do what makes the masses happy, and not the select few. Obviously there's a middle ground somewhere, but huge companies can't afford the middle ground, they have investors to win over. Wow, I just got into a territory I really didn't expect to haha!
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I don't understand then, how it can possibly be a bad thing for them to release source then. According to you, it will only affect us XDA users and have no bearing on the masses. In the meantime, it would make many of us ecstatic and reduce returns from frustrated users or bricks because people are trying to figure it out sooner. Boom, two birds, one stone. We're happy, fewer returns, win/win.
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Thing is, in here we (I, at least), really, Really don't care about the big picture and those of you locked down by your carrier (sorry for being a Richard.) My phone has been freed of AT&T's grip. Most of us can't even, and really don't want to, receive OTA's. Technically, AT&T isn't even my carrier! So whatever time line AT&T is on with JB means nothing to me. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
However, LG on the other hand, is of a little more concern, since they hold the key to JB with the source code. From what I understand though, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, they are obligated to release it. Although, I don't know what time constraints they're under.
Anyway, please don't misinterpret the tone of this thread. All in good fun.
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Thing is, in here we (I, at least), really, Really don't care about the big picture and those of you locked down by your carrier (sorry for being a Richard.) My phone has been freed of AT&T's grip. Most of us can't even, and really don't want to, receive OTA's. Technically, AT&T isn't even my carrier! So whatever time line AT&T is on with JB means nothing to me. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
However, LG on the other hand, is of a little more concern, since they hold the key to JB with the source code. From what I understand though, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, they are obligated to release it. Although, I don't know what time constraints they're under.
Anyway, please don't misinterpret the tone of this thread. All in good fun.
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They have to release it to comply with the GPL and IIRC they have 6 months.
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I don't understand then, how it can possibly be a bad thing for them to release source then. According to you, it will only affect us XDA users and have no bearing on the masses. In the meantime, it would make many of us ecstatic and reduce returns from frustrated users or bricks because people are trying to figure it out sooner. Boom, two birds, one stone. We're happy, fewer returns, win/win.
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I never said it would be a bad thing for them to release the code. I think it would be awesome if they did for all of the reasons you just mentioned. I was merely bringing to light why they haven't done it yet, but in reality that's anyone's guess.
I have cm10 on my atrix , I really dont see the big deal about JB, i'll take it when it rolls out tho.
The reason Verizon is delayed so much is there might be a 50% chancee the Verizon Version will have the brand new 800 snapdragon. that's why they are going to have that huge presentation in may to let people now about how Verizons gs4 will be a true beast compared to the others. So I'm Happy and since the 800 is new it will be very very limited that's why only Verizon will have it and no bootloader Samsung already said no.. just thought I should let u all know before you all make ur decision don't believe fine will see who's laughing after Verizon announces it in may after you all bought ur weaker gs4
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The reason Verizon is delayed so much is there might be a 50% chancee the Verizon Version will have the brand new 800 snapdragon. that's why they are going to have that huge presentation in may to let people now about how Verizons gs4 will be a true beast compared to the others. So I'm Happy and since the 800 is new it will be very very limited that's why only Verizon will have it and no bootloader Samsung already said no.. just thought I should let u all know before you all make ur decision don't believe fine will see who's laughing after Verizon announces it in may after you all bought ur weaker gs4
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Dude, stop trolling... You already post a thread about this, and it was discussed and you have no concrete evidence of this. Why post about it again? Considering your post history, I'm certainly not going to take this, or anything else you say seriously.
gabrielpina4 said:
The reason Verizon is delayed so much is there might be a 50% chancee the Verizon Version will have the brand new 800 snapdragon. that's why they are going to have that huge presentation in may to let people now about how Verizons gs4 will be a true beast compared to the others. So I'm Happy and since the 800 is new it will be very very limited that's why only Verizon will have it and no bootloader Samsung already said no.. just thought I should let u all know before you all make ur decision don't believe fine will see who's laughing after Verizon announces it in may after you all bought ur weaker gs4
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Nope.
You've brought all kinds of junk news to these boards and others.
thank you, bye bye
Then you should all know that if you go back to my posts u will know that 90% of the things I've posted actually became true so I guess my sources seem to be pretty damn accurate .. I'm not asking you to believe but when may22 comes and they announce don't be like DAMNIT that guy was right so w.e all I'm doing is helping u make the right choice..
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Then you should all know that if you go back to my posts u will know that 90% of the things I've posted actually became true so I guess my sources seem to be pretty damn accurate .. I'm not asking you to believe but when may22 comes and they announce don't be like DAMNIT that guy was right so w.e all I'm doing is helping u make the right choice..
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Looking at your post history you're the same guy who asked if the GS4 can play Xbox 360 games because "the Xbox has 3 cores and the GS4 has 4". So yeah...
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Then you should all know that if you go back to my posts u will know that 90% of the things I've posted actually became true so I guess my sources seem to be pretty damn accurate.
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But, alas, there have only been 46 of them.
Here's a question. What problem is Samsung solving by releasing a different SoC for one carrier? S-600 won't be fast enough on VZW? The masses who buy VZW phones don't know or care what a Snapdragon is. The next big move you'll see Samsung make with the SGS4 at God knows what point in the future is to introduce an Octa/LTE variant that uses the new Qualcomm RF360 baseband with support for all 40 worldwide bands. That move would actually solve a problem. Sticking S-800 in a single variant of the SGS4 for one carrier and market creates problems in the need for seperate support procedures, inventory stocking, and repair parts.
Hmm, Thread closed
Seeing as there isn't any solid evidence to support your point, this thread seems a little futile... there really is no point in making a thread about something you're not sure will even happen?
So providing false/unsupported information can lead to A LOT of confusion. Lets stop that right away,
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First developer and international...understandable. Then Sprint, and now T-Mobile. If Verizon gets it before at&t I am going to throw this thing across the room!
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First developer and international...understandable. Then Sprint, and now T-Mobile. If Verizon gets it before at&t I am going to throw this thing across the room!
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i feel ya...nervous about the fact that we just got official 4.4.4
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First developer and international...understandable. Then Sprint, and now T-Mobile. If Verizon gets it before at&t I am going to throw this thing across the room!
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Welcome to AT&T! Home of the slowest updates. And according to the HTC site AT&T is still only in "Stage 2 - Integration stage" meaning their still loading all their bull**** bloatware onto it. Haven't even begun testing.
They gave up on the m8. I think anyone who knows phones will soff and go to Dev or flash international
Here is AT&T's "reply" (if thats what you want to call it) to Lollipop release.
https://twitter.com/ATTCares/status/564471888064557056
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They gave up on the m8.
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Based on what?
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Based on what?
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I dont think they've given up on the M8, I just think they need to fire the whole dev department.
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I dont think they've given up on the M8, I just think they need to fire the whole dev department.
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I don't think they've given up either. At least HTC certainly hasn't, as for now its still the premiere flagship in their lineup. As for AT&T, they've always been agonizingly slow on updates, and have actually been doing better on the M8 than some past devices.
It also needs to be considered that AT&T/HTC included a feature that on 4.4.4 that the other versions don't have (VoLTE) so comparing the release dates is a bit apples and oranges.
Hopefully 5.0 won't be as delayed. You would think that since they now figured out the VoLTE issue, we wouldn't have a similar delay on LP. On the other hand, it would seem a bit odd to have 5.0 roll out right after 4.4.4.
Well ladies and gentlemen its official, we're the last to get the Lollipop update. Sprints M8 just got it. AT&T, theres a seat in hell for these people.
Its being worked on...shouldnt be too long till its released,thats all ill say about this topic.
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Its being worked on...shouldnt be too long till its released,thats all ill say about this topic.
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Holding out insider information on us? Thats not very lady like.
Not a lady lol and nope just saying its not far away.
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Holding out insider information on us? Thats not very lady like.
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Well ain't this special, the LG G3 is the first AT&T phone to get Lollipop.
How could it be that the One M8 update is not ready for release at this time?
Dejavu anyone? I remember countless of posts stating...it's not too far a way...one month a way, etc and over a half year later it finally gets released and when it does , we are still left in the dust. I don't believe a dam word from anyone, and I dont give a dam who u think u are. I will only believe it as I'm actively downloading it.
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Are definitely allowed to have an opinion,but to be rude,uncalled for. You dont have to believe anything...lol and yup youll be waiting...jasonmac tweeted an expected t.a. in the next few weeks. So believe what you like,but how about cutting the rudeness...just a suggestion.
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Dejavu anyone? I remember countless of posts stating...it's not too far a way...one month a way, etc and over a half year later it finally gets released and when it does , we are still left in the dust. I don't believe a dam word from anyone, and I dont give a dam who u think u are. I will only believe it as I'm actively downloading it.
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Dejavu anyone? I remember countless of posts stating...it's not too far a way...one month a way, etc and over a half year later it finally gets released and when it does , we are still left in the dust. I don't believe a dam word from anyone, and I dont give a dam who u think u are. I will only believe it as I'm actively downloading it.
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I know at&t is horrible at updates but they just barely fixed the volte so that's why it took long, and please don't disrespect the devs or anyone that contributes anything to this forum, because I bet when they release a ROM you'll be trying to flash it
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Are definitely allowed to have an opinion,but to be rude,uncalled for. You dont have to believe anything...lol and yup youll be waiting...jasonmac tweeted an expected t.a. in the next few weeks. So believe what you like,but how about cutting the rudeness...just a suggestion.
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Next couple weeks! Jesus, even Canadian M8's got the update already. Someone needs to light a fire under AT&T's azz.
Is what it is,*****in n moaning about aint gonna do anything...Im done..Ill keep things to my few select people.Let someone else find out info
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Is what it is,*****in n moaning about aint gonna do anything...Im done..Ill keep things to my few select people.Let someone else find out info
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True, just sucks being last. If it wasnt for AT&T having VoLTE I'd just convert to international.
Maybe they are waiting for Google to fix the memory leak issue plaguing current LP versions?