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Does anyone know if the stock vibrant rom has been ported to the fascinate? I like the vibrant's rom better.
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Do you see it listed?
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Yeah, actually it's all over all the other forums. We always get stuff last. Go figure.
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Apparently there are not stupid questions, just junior members that haven't noticed that this is a family establishment....
So, I'll ask the asshats this, if you like the vibrant so much, why did you get the fascinate? Or marry it....
Also, I prefer poo poo face. TYIA
Well maybe because they have verizon and obviously the vibrant is not on verizon!^^
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Well maybe because they have verizon and obviously the vibrant is not on verizon!^^
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No excuse. I needed to get off T-Mo because I had no service after I moved. Sold my nexus on Ebay for enough to buy two new phones and pay my early termination fees. Did the same thing to transition from my G1 to my nexus after a year.
Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Well maybe because they have verizon and obviously the vibrant is not on verizon!^^
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Yes, and it's IMPOSSIBLE to switch carriers.
I hear every time you switch carriers for a slightly different phone than available to you, God kills a kitten.
noone said it was impossible to switch carriers but maybe they are on a line with another person or just dont want to switch to a carrier with ****ty coverage. But its ok we cant all be douchebags like yourself. I guess whatever you says goes and everything else just wont do it
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noone said it was impossible to switch carriers but maybe they are on a line with another person or just dont want to switch to a carrier with ****ty coverage. But its ok we cant all be douchebags like yourself. I guess whatever you says goes and everything else just wont do it
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My God man, you finally get it! Awesomesauce. I had almost given up hope of getting through.
Man, I hope a moderator comes along soon enough.
All it would have taken was a simple: "Sorry, it isnt available."
Buying Moto was a big mistake. Yes. I think I will now admit it. Literally NO updates and they treat you like Sh*T. Good going Moto. Not to mention the fact that the devs give it a miss. I don't blame them at all. When other major corps (HTC at least) have listened to their customers and unlocked their boot loaders and released their source code, what makes Moto so special and not follow suit. A while back they were nearly non-existent. Until Google bought 'em.
I am growing impatient as I slowly see the world progress towards faster and newer OSes and inspite of paying a bomb and buying killer hardware, have to be stuck with MotoBla and am at the mercy of Motorola. Hmmm...*checks if the logo behind isn't a bitten apple*
As if this wasn't enough, add to it CDMA/GSM confusion. Some really awesome ROMs out there for CDMA and we, the GSM lot, just helplessly watch as a third world country. No doubt the devs are working day and night on patches and ROMs...but the progress is visibly slow (for GSM that is).
On the other hand whatever brighter side is left, yes, the hardware and looks are killer. But now I think it's pointless.
Never again Moto. YES sir.
Comments welcome, positive criticism welcome too.
But if you are gonna reply, "Oh one more thread about bla bla..." I suggest you simply hit the back button and go help some noob.
This is my perspective on being with a Moto phone for less than a year.
Buying Moto was a big mistake. Yes. I think I will now admit it.
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Wait... you bought Motorola? I thought Google did.
TIL
I am waiting for kexec to be ported to our device by hash. He is running custom kernel on the DROID 3 with ics atm
To be honest I am tired of waiting for kholk, hash managed to get both cores running
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Oh one more thread about bla bla...
eyriiii said:
I am waiting for kexec to be ported to our device by hash. He is running custom kernel on the DROID 3 with ics atm
To be honest I am tired of waiting for kholk, hash managed to get both cores running
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You paid to Moto not to the dev.. so stop complaining about them being slow.
be grateful because at least they're trying..
Android is fun because so many generous people working hard for it :good:
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Wait... you bought Motorola? I thought Google did.
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I wish...
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You mad bro?
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You mad bro?
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And what exactly makes you say that? Tell me what have I said that u think is wrong...then let's see who is mad.
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And I think u either don't know English or can't comprehend sentences...the last line clearly reads, only if u have something positive and constructive to contribute, reply. Otherwise, politely, buzz off.
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Although all the repliers in this thread have valid points I have to agree with the op. I like the RAZR. Its got great build quality and features. The screen sucks balls and support from moto is disappointing. I am waiting until I can afford it and swapping to something else. Depending on what I can afford, anything from a nexus s to galaxy s3.
All this and I had a dell streak that I would happily have instead.
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That would be the last resort, selling it. Swapping it for another phone...hmmm.
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Although all the repliers in this thread have valid points I have to agree with the op. I like the RAZR. Its got great build quality and features. The screen sucks balls and support from moto is disappointing. I am waiting until I can afford it and swapping to something else. Depending on what I can afford, anything from a nexus s to galaxy s3.
All this and I had a dell streak that I would happily have instead.
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So " u mad bro" is a valid post? xD
Joke mode off
I can understand op point of view, while the rar is amazing from the hw point of view, the part of being motorola is the one that lower it's value.
Probably my next phone will be not a motorola, unless they change their behavior. Maybe losing in a quarter almost what they lost in a year can make change their idea a bit
We can only hope. My view is that they won't change. I was victim of their dext update fail and they say once bitten, twice shy. I'll change that to twice bitten, never buy.
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Edit. Yes I think 'you mad bro' is valid. This is an open forum about general RAZR related chat after all
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We can only hope. My view is that they won't change. I was victim of their dext update fail and they say once bitten, twice shy. I'll change that to twice bitten, never buy.
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Edit. Yes I think 'you mad bro' is valid. This is an open forum about general RAZR related chat after all
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Nothing valid about "you mad bro". Its high time we have a serious conversation about these things don't ya think??
Now checking out LG OPTIMUS 4X...looks good. But don't want another Motorola episode rerun in my life.
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I understand the aggravation, but I don't understand why people find it necessary to post rants here. Xda is a development forum for developers, essentially your going to get a nod of agreement or flamed for littering the threads, why waste your energy? Why not voice your disappointment to the company that caused your grief. If Motorola and verizon's forums, Facebook, etc. we're filled with as many post with customer complaints as xda is they might do something about it just to shut us up.
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I understand the aggravation, but I don't understand why people find it necessary to post rants here. Xda is a development forum for developers, essentially your going to get a nod of agreement or flamed for littering the threads, why waste your energy? Why not voice your disappointment to the company that caused your grief. If Motorola and verizon's forums, Facebook, etc. we're filled with as many post with customer complaints as xda is they might do something about it just to shut us up.
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I agree. But again, I made sure I'm not posting in the dev section but in the general section. I just wanted to see how many people agree or am I just "mad".
Anyways...
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I'm with you 100% other phones get the good stuff even lower end ones and we got a good piece of hardware but can't exploit it the way it sould be.
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Moto dies make awesome phones.. But their updates leaves much to be desired.
If only they can apply their six sigma on customer satisfaction on updates..
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I'm seriously looking at other options as of now...LG OPTIMUS 4X looks good..Tegra 3, and other cool hardware..4cores that go silent when not needed and spring back to action when needed..or so the ad says...
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Have you guys had phones like the DROID charge where you are left in the dust with crickets and barren desert for a dev scene and no updates at all?
You don't know how good you have it with this phone.
The phone you want is not available and it is a RAZR HD Nexus model.
I am extremely content with this phone.
Used to flash anything that came out for my Samsung phones to try and eek out a little extra performance. This phone doesn't need that.
SHVR MAXX
I have Epsilon V4 running on my gsm Razr. I have friends who have Galaxy and Nexus devices, among other premium devices. They care little about benchmarks and ROMs. They (We) worry more about email, some photo apps, social networking, some games, and business related apps. Hell I had to talk them into rooting and such. One thing they do care about is the "feel" that my razor has; its uniqueness, they grab it, fondle it, leet it rest on their hands and stare at the kevlar.
That being said, I don't think I want to buy a plastic telephone that develops cracks for no apparent reason. Furthermore, if time and business allow I am considering learning the related stuff to Android development. Not just for the challenge and fun, but for the very principle "If you want something done your way, you get to it."
Nobody forced me, or any adult for that matter, to obtain and keep this phone. If anybody is that unhappy with their device, I'd say it will be quite simple to sell it and get something one wants.
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Just like the title says......I'm looking for a quadcore phone and for the price, can't really beat this but sadly to say, it's been released since November and have not seen very much action going on here.
Is the LG phone pretty much just the way it is?
Thank you,
Roderick
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Just like the title says......I'm looking for a quadcore phone and for the price, can't really beat this but sadly to say, it's been released since November and have not seen very much action going on here.
Is the LG phone pretty much just the way it is?
Thank you,
Roderick
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We will have some stuff very soon. I hope before February, if not then, hopefully in Feb. There are people working on both CM10 and AOKP. The devs haven't had source so are sort of flying blind. They have mentioned they think source will drop soon.
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oh very nice......that's what I was thinking too maybe that the source was just not available at this point. Honestly, at this point, this phone is a monster and would love to see some development go on this. lol
In going to be honest..development sucks
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In going to be honest..development sucks
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If it sucks so bad then why don't you jump in if you could do better?
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drakeymcmb said:
In going to be honest..development sucks
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What more do you want, the devs don't want to spend to much time on building ICS ROMs when jelly Bean is right around the corner. Once the source drops expect things to pick up.
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I don't see why everyone is getting mad at the guy for saying it sucks because, compared to the other devices, it isn't getting much support. That's a fact. It sucks in the sense we don't have much support. It's awesome though that from the support this device DOES have, they seem to be really committed and knowledgeable and I truly believe this device is gonna have some awesome stuff in the coming months.
To the OP, it is getting better. When I first came here, devs were just working on getting the bootloader unlocked. And now we have quite a few ROMs and quite a few mods thanks to the awesome and devoted people in this section. This is still a brand new device and it's only getting better. Can't wait to see what the future has in store for this device!
I'm actually listing this on eBay to sale because I've tried my hand at bringing cm and without sources to go off of its extremely difficult. The phone itself has potential, but don't think it will get the support it deserves due to LG. I'm going back to Samsung and will live my days out there unfortunately.
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In going to be honest..development sucks
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As for that comment you should go give it a whirl I've spent last week working on a port package to bring 4.1 roms from n4 to this device but piecing together a kernel when that's not my forte is painful and ended in frustration...just ask my wife lol she didn't see my face much.
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jivy26 said:
I'm actually listing this on eBay to sale because I've tried my hand at bringing cm and without sources to go off of its extremely difficult. The phone itself has potential, but don't think it will get the support it deserves due to LG. I'm going back to Samsung and will live my days out there unfortunately.
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This....sold my OG and back on my S3. Inferior device....superior user experience. Kind of like the old school apple android days. By the time this thing gets any support, the S4 will be out and undoubtedly destroy the OG...
Galaxy S III I747
jivy26 said:
As for that comment you should go give it a whirl I've spent last week working on a port package to bring 4.1 roms from n4 to this device but piecing together a kernel when that's not my forte is painful and ended in frustration...just ask my wife lol she didn't see my face much.
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Source is coming within the month most likely, and honestly I don't miss much from when I had JB on my old phone, but since we are getting JB soon anyways, and some of the devs have CM10 booting....
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I don't see why everyone is getting mad at the guy for saying it sucks because, compared to the other devices, it isn't getting much support. That's a fact. It sucks in the sense we don't have much support. It's awesome though that from the support this device DOES have, they seem to be really committed and knowledgeable and I truly believe this device is gonna have some awesome stuff in the coming months.
To the OP, it is getting better. When I first came here, devs were just working on getting the bootloader unlocked. And now we have quite a few ROMs and quite a few mods thanks to the awesome and devoted people in this section. This is still a brand new device and it's only getting better. Can't wait to see what the future has in store for this device!
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I think everyone is mad at LG for craptacular support of their device but taking it out on the poster because he is insinuating that the problem is with the developers. They are doing the best they can but only a very small handful of devs have the knowledge, time, and resources to overcome the obstacles in our way, again, because of LG. Once those roadblocks come down, then it will be much, much easier for the garden variety developer to customize and build ROM's for the LGOG, and things should take off.
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Development for this phone is non existent. Selling mine to a coworker.
Not the developers faults though. It's LG...and don't plan on buying anything from them again whether it's their TVs or phones. Just took 2 LG TVs back to the store that I bought for my office. I refuse to support a subpar company.
I just think it is insulting to the devs that are working on the device. And everyone thinks nothing is happening since the devs don't post their work here but on the irc Chanel. Is as of everyone expects a CM ROM to be available with in a week of the device dropping, even though we don't have kernel source.
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Anyone selling this great phone because "development sucks" let me know and ill buy it for cheap lol. Team Nocturnal Owns 3 Optimus G's for now and development takes time. nothing will happen over night guys, Sell now and cry later when all the cool roms and mods start popping out... Just saying.
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Anyone selling this great phone because "development sucks" let me know and ill buy it for cheap lol. Team Nocturnal Owns 3 Optimus G's for now and development takes time. nothing will happen over night guys, Sell now and cry later when all the cool roms and mods start popping out... Just saying.
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You east coast? I get free UPS shipping thru my business. PM me an offer. I won't cry losing this phone. It was the first S4 Pro phone... Now they're about to be a dime a dozen. I hope you guys end up with a wonderful development scene. However, it's LG, not any dev here.
I just can't believe all the negativity. Every new device takes time. I also don't miss JB at all. This device is faster than all the other ones I've had.
I also can't believe that there is another thread asking about development. There's a section for that. All you have to do is look there.
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Anyone selling this great phone because "development sucks" let me know and ill buy it for cheap lol. Team Nocturnal Owns 3 Optimus G's for now and development takes time. nothing will happen over night guys, Sell now and cry later when all the cool roms and mods start popping out... Just saying.
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I don't believe they are trying to talk bad about the great work this entire Dev community has done, but rather about LG. You guys have done a great job with what you were given. The OG components wise is a great product, but the fact that LG released it obviously will hinder its progress and potential. GL to you guys and I am sure you will release a great product with exceptional support unlike LG
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Now they're about to be a dime a dozen.
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Not anywhere near a $99 price point, but I agree. Would've waited but I can't afford an upgrade being in college, and I managed to get this phone for free.
Not to be pessimistic, but LG takes their sweet time releasing source. Coming from a G2X and 03D.
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So I read this article today, which was released yesterday, and the OG is beginning the world-wide release to 50 countries starting this month. Here's part of a quote from the CEO of LG Mobile,
“With the latest Jelly Bean OS and improved software, Optimus G will make a strong case for the title of ultimate premium 4G LTE smartphone.”
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I found this very interesting because it appears these newly released devices will have the JB update at launch. Either way, I like what I see here. I understand many of you are using the ROMs available to us through development, but I can't afford to make any mistakes with my phone, so I prefer stock. Either way, this is good news for all of us.
LG Newsroom Article is found here.
Not getting excited. We'll see when it happens
They were speaking about the international version. AT&T still needs to give our update the two-month treatment. But still it's a good sign that most of the LGOGs will have JB. It should make AT&T speed up their release.
I wish either AT&T or LG or both would get their act together. I want me some Jelly Beans!
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Who cares about AT&T, just release the source code already!
Once our devs can get their hands on it, we'll be golden.
Well, as ATT is the second largest mobile provider in the country, tons of people care about ATT getting this rollout.
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Well, as ATT is the second largest mobile provider in the country, tons of people care about ATT getting this rollout.
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Too bad AT&T Doesn't care about AT&T getting it.
AT&T took the GB update that Dell gave them for the Streak and threw it in the trash.
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AT&T took the GB update that Dell gave them for the Streak and threw it in the trash.
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Being a former Streak owner I couldn't agree with you more. AT&T and Dell both screwed everyone over with their use and development on the Streak platform... and it was such a great phone!
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Too bad AT&T Doesn't care about AT&T getting it.
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They care so little about Jelly Bean, that they got it for the GSIII?
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Well, as ATT is the second largest mobile provider in the country, tons of people care about ATT getting this rollout.
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Well, as XDA is a development site, tons of people only care about the source code.
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I understand that. I'm merely pointing out that this site contains less than 1% of the total users of mobile devices out there. When thinking about why companies do what they do, try to look at the big picture. The big picture is to do what makes the masses happy, and not the select few. Obviously there's a middle ground somewhere, but huge companies can't afford the middle ground, they have investors to win over. Wow, I just got into a territory I really didn't expect to haha!
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I understand that. I'm merely pointing out that this site contains less than 1% of the total users of mobile devices out there. When thinking about why companies do what they do, try to look at the big picture. The big picture is to do what makes the masses happy, and not the select few. Obviously there's a middle ground somewhere, but huge companies can't afford the middle ground, they have investors to win over. Wow, I just got into a territory I really didn't expect to haha!
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I don't understand then, how it can possibly be a bad thing for them to release source then. According to you, it will only affect us XDA users and have no bearing on the masses. In the meantime, it would make many of us ecstatic and reduce returns from frustrated users or bricks because people are trying to figure it out sooner. Boom, two birds, one stone. We're happy, fewer returns, win/win.
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Thing is, in here we (I, at least), really, Really don't care about the big picture and those of you locked down by your carrier (sorry for being a Richard.) My phone has been freed of AT&T's grip. Most of us can't even, and really don't want to, receive OTA's. Technically, AT&T isn't even my carrier! So whatever time line AT&T is on with JB means nothing to me. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
However, LG on the other hand, is of a little more concern, since they hold the key to JB with the source code. From what I understand though, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, they are obligated to release it. Although, I don't know what time constraints they're under.
Anyway, please don't misinterpret the tone of this thread. All in good fun.
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Thing is, in here we (I, at least), really, Really don't care about the big picture and those of you locked down by your carrier (sorry for being a Richard.) My phone has been freed of AT&T's grip. Most of us can't even, and really don't want to, receive OTA's. Technically, AT&T isn't even my carrier! So whatever time line AT&T is on with JB means nothing to me. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.
However, LG on the other hand, is of a little more concern, since they hold the key to JB with the source code. From what I understand though, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, they are obligated to release it. Although, I don't know what time constraints they're under.
Anyway, please don't misinterpret the tone of this thread. All in good fun.
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They have to release it to comply with the GPL and IIRC they have 6 months.
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I don't understand then, how it can possibly be a bad thing for them to release source then. According to you, it will only affect us XDA users and have no bearing on the masses. In the meantime, it would make many of us ecstatic and reduce returns from frustrated users or bricks because people are trying to figure it out sooner. Boom, two birds, one stone. We're happy, fewer returns, win/win.
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I never said it would be a bad thing for them to release the code. I think it would be awesome if they did for all of the reasons you just mentioned. I was merely bringing to light why they haven't done it yet, but in reality that's anyone's guess.
I have cm10 on my atrix , I really dont see the big deal about JB, i'll take it when it rolls out tho.
Where is the up the 4.2.2 update for the US? HTC needs to stop spending money on stupid marketing and develop the 4.2.2 update for ATT. Hurry this change! I think it is time to send a message to HTC on its Facebook page. Start posting and let them know your displeasure.
It's already out for the international one, if people want it so bad they can flash a custom Rom or even a full ruu
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It's already out for the international one, if people want it so bad they can flash a custom Rom or even a full ruu
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Hell, go all out and flash the 4.3 Google Play Edition ROM.
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Hell, go all out and flash the 4.3 Google Play Edition ROM.
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Assuming they want stock android yeah
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Yeah some people just want stock AT&T Sense. Anyways, I believe it's AT&T fault for not rolling out the update. HTC leaves it up to the carrier to when they want to release the update. I could be wrong because Tmo and Sprint hasn't released 4.2.2 either. I have a feeling that The Verizon HTC one will be released before we see an update.
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I've been on 4.2.2 for a little over a month now. Everything just works, and no AT&T bloat. Also have the AT&T OTA radio flashed and the build.prop tweaks needed for the new channels.
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Assuming they want stock android yeah
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Very true, I hadn't considered that. I'm not sure HTC Sense will be "worth it" for me...
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monkeylarue1 said:
Where is the up the 4.2.2 update for the US? HTC needs to stop spending money on stupid marketing and develop the 4.2.2 update for ATT. Hurry this change! I think it is time to send a message to HTC on its Facebook page. Start posting and let them know your displeasure.
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Hahaha like it's all HTCs fault... International has it and there is basically no difference between international and AT&T software besides stupid bloat, so go complain to AT&T if you want. I'm sure they'll send the OTA to your phone right there on the spot. :thumbup:
Posts/threads like this are way to common and a waste of space, I just don't get it.
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Hahaha like it's all HTCs fault... International has it and there is basically no difference between international and AT&T software besides stupid bloat, so go complain to AT&T if you want. I'm sure they'll send the OTA to your phone right there on the spot. :thumbup:
Posts/threads like this are way to common and a waste of space, I just don't get it.
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yeah what's up with this? didn't XDA used to require like 50 posts before you could start a thread? this is why we have androidforums.com. regardless, HTC needs to spend more on marketing so that more people will buy their products and ATT will have to prioritize the updating. this delay is not on HTC...it's almost 100% on AT&T. ATT had the HOX JB update for like 3.5 months before they pushed it out to people, and their own customer service isn't even made privy to the status. this is what the purchase of subsidized phones and contracts gets us consumers. if it's REALLY a problem for you, then you're at XDA for the solution. this isn't a place to complain. if you want stock sense, that's fine, I can totally appreciate it, but you dont come to, and sign up for, a Dev website to ***** about the lack of a stock OTA from a carrier known to take (queue Sandlot) FOR-EV-ER to update it's phones.
Interesting. Thank you to everyone for your thoughtful comments. I have rooted a lot of phones and wanted to see why the update was not moving forward. The extra colorful comments are welcomed as well. The only issue with forums is I could be gaining advise from experts or middle school students.
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Interesting. Thank you to everyone for your thoughtful comments. I have rooted a lot of phones and wanted to see why the update was not moving forward. The extra colorful comments are welcomed as well. The only issue with forums is I could be gaining advise from experts or middle school students.
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I think the snide replies are rooted in the fact that the basic sentiment of your original post has been stated an overwhelming amount of times on this website, especially with regards to AT&T and HTC issuing an OTA for major - and even minor - software updates. Many folks get tired of coming to this site to read the same thing, hence the increased likelihood of getting a snide reply.
Truthfully, the update probably is moving forward, it's just that AT&T is about as transparent as the Bush administration so we never have any clue where things stand with regards to actual delivery of the updates. Yes, forums is probably going to be hit or miss with regards to quality of advice. But the way you're delivering your comment here makes you seem like you should be in forums, and is probably going to get you some colorful responses from non-middle schoolers.
If you've rooted as much as you claim, you probably know that we almost never know why carrier updates are not moving forward....or if they're moving forward at all. Many come here to find technical solutions and workarounds to that exact ongoing problem, and often get annoyed seeing the same thing posted again and again in each subforum. I think the general assumption here is that many of us are, in fact, frequently posting complaints/concerns/comments on carrier and manufacturer websites, social media pages, forums, etc. We're all on the same boat, or at least many of us.
We welcome rallying for a cause here, but it's possible there's a better way to go about starting a rally for this issue. In the past, folks have posted the actual interactions they've received from customer support reps and techs, feedback responses, etc, and discussions have ensued as to the best ways to get in touch with the companies involved with regards to really displaying the distaste of both the developer and general enthusiast consumer. The AT&T/Rogers/Telus HTC One X forums is a great case study, in particular, the rally around getting the original JB update RUU, source, etc.
I've had a few interactions with HTC and ATT with regards to future updates, but have gotten absolutely zero information from them. Sadly, they mask their lack of sharing as ignorance all too well. Even more sad is that CSRs and technicians are probably not really lying at all when they claim to know nothing about the updates. Again, we're hooked into contract, not to mention that the vast majority of their consumers don't realize the potential benefits of upgrades, and in many cases aren't even aware of their potential existence. That's where we'll probably really see the change, in getting more people familiarized with the beast we are burdened to deal with; not here, but in the general public.
monkeylarue1 said:
Interesting. Thank you to everyone for your thoughtful comments. I have rooted a lot of phones and wanted to see why the update was not moving forward. The extra colorful comments are welcomed as well. The only issue with forums is I could be gaining advise from experts or middle school students.
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Oh haha you just wanted to see why it wasn't moving forward is all?
Strange, then why didn't you ask WHY it wasn't moving forward? Instead you complained that its taking to long and then blindly blamed HTCs new marketing campaign for the delay? Doesn't make any SENSE (pun intended).
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This information just came in today. Looks like HTC will jump to 4.3 for the Dev edition at least. Here's the full article: http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/18/htc-one-developer-edition-jumping-to-android-4-3/
JazzyCarr0t said:
This information just came in today. Looks like HTC will jump to 4.3 for the Dev edition at least. Here's the full article: http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/18/htc-one-developer-edition-jumping-to-android-4-3/
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Scrumtrillescent
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"adj: So great that any other word employed would be woefully insufficient, and would serve only to limit the sheer magnitude of the greatness intended as a descriptor."
For those who aren't familiar with the word.
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Cool.
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