Buying Moto was a big mistake. Yes. I think I will now admit it. Literally NO updates and they treat you like Sh*T. Good going Moto. Not to mention the fact that the devs give it a miss. I don't blame them at all. When other major corps (HTC at least) have listened to their customers and unlocked their boot loaders and released their source code, what makes Moto so special and not follow suit. A while back they were nearly non-existent. Until Google bought 'em.
I am growing impatient as I slowly see the world progress towards faster and newer OSes and inspite of paying a bomb and buying killer hardware, have to be stuck with MotoBla and am at the mercy of Motorola. Hmmm...*checks if the logo behind isn't a bitten apple*
As if this wasn't enough, add to it CDMA/GSM confusion. Some really awesome ROMs out there for CDMA and we, the GSM lot, just helplessly watch as a third world country. No doubt the devs are working day and night on patches and ROMs...but the progress is visibly slow (for GSM that is).
On the other hand whatever brighter side is left, yes, the hardware and looks are killer. But now I think it's pointless.
Never again Moto. YES sir.
Comments welcome, positive criticism welcome too.
But if you are gonna reply, "Oh one more thread about bla bla..." I suggest you simply hit the back button and go help some noob.
This is my perspective on being with a Moto phone for less than a year.
Buying Moto was a big mistake. Yes. I think I will now admit it.
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Wait... you bought Motorola? I thought Google did.
TIL
I am waiting for kexec to be ported to our device by hash. He is running custom kernel on the DROID 3 with ics atm
To be honest I am tired of waiting for kholk, hash managed to get both cores running
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Oh one more thread about bla bla...
eyriiii said:
I am waiting for kexec to be ported to our device by hash. He is running custom kernel on the DROID 3 with ics atm
To be honest I am tired of waiting for kholk, hash managed to get both cores running
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You paid to Moto not to the dev.. so stop complaining about them being slow.
be grateful because at least they're trying..
Android is fun because so many generous people working hard for it :good:
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Wait... you bought Motorola? I thought Google did.
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I wish...
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You mad bro?
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You mad bro?
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And what exactly makes you say that? Tell me what have I said that u think is wrong...then let's see who is mad.
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And I think u either don't know English or can't comprehend sentences...the last line clearly reads, only if u have something positive and constructive to contribute, reply. Otherwise, politely, buzz off.
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Although all the repliers in this thread have valid points I have to agree with the op. I like the RAZR. Its got great build quality and features. The screen sucks balls and support from moto is disappointing. I am waiting until I can afford it and swapping to something else. Depending on what I can afford, anything from a nexus s to galaxy s3.
All this and I had a dell streak that I would happily have instead.
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That would be the last resort, selling it. Swapping it for another phone...hmmm.
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Although all the repliers in this thread have valid points I have to agree with the op. I like the RAZR. Its got great build quality and features. The screen sucks balls and support from moto is disappointing. I am waiting until I can afford it and swapping to something else. Depending on what I can afford, anything from a nexus s to galaxy s3.
All this and I had a dell streak that I would happily have instead.
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So " u mad bro" is a valid post? xD
Joke mode off
I can understand op point of view, while the rar is amazing from the hw point of view, the part of being motorola is the one that lower it's value.
Probably my next phone will be not a motorola, unless they change their behavior. Maybe losing in a quarter almost what they lost in a year can make change their idea a bit
We can only hope. My view is that they won't change. I was victim of their dext update fail and they say once bitten, twice shy. I'll change that to twice bitten, never buy.
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We can only hope. My view is that they won't change. I was victim of their dext update fail and they say once bitten, twice shy. I'll change that to twice bitten, never buy.
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Nothing valid about "you mad bro". Its high time we have a serious conversation about these things don't ya think??
Now checking out LG OPTIMUS 4X...looks good. But don't want another Motorola episode rerun in my life.
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I understand the aggravation, but I don't understand why people find it necessary to post rants here. Xda is a development forum for developers, essentially your going to get a nod of agreement or flamed for littering the threads, why waste your energy? Why not voice your disappointment to the company that caused your grief. If Motorola and verizon's forums, Facebook, etc. we're filled with as many post with customer complaints as xda is they might do something about it just to shut us up.
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I understand the aggravation, but I don't understand why people find it necessary to post rants here. Xda is a development forum for developers, essentially your going to get a nod of agreement or flamed for littering the threads, why waste your energy? Why not voice your disappointment to the company that caused your grief. If Motorola and verizon's forums, Facebook, etc. we're filled with as many post with customer complaints as xda is they might do something about it just to shut us up.
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I agree. But again, I made sure I'm not posting in the dev section but in the general section. I just wanted to see how many people agree or am I just "mad".
Anyways...
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I'm with you 100% other phones get the good stuff even lower end ones and we got a good piece of hardware but can't exploit it the way it sould be.
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Moto dies make awesome phones.. But their updates leaves much to be desired.
If only they can apply their six sigma on customer satisfaction on updates..
Sent from my ICS Razr XT910
I'm seriously looking at other options as of now...LG OPTIMUS 4X looks good..Tegra 3, and other cool hardware..4cores that go silent when not needed and spring back to action when needed..or so the ad says...
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Have you guys had phones like the DROID charge where you are left in the dust with crickets and barren desert for a dev scene and no updates at all?
You don't know how good you have it with this phone.
The phone you want is not available and it is a RAZR HD Nexus model.
I am extremely content with this phone.
Used to flash anything that came out for my Samsung phones to try and eek out a little extra performance. This phone doesn't need that.
SHVR MAXX
I have Epsilon V4 running on my gsm Razr. I have friends who have Galaxy and Nexus devices, among other premium devices. They care little about benchmarks and ROMs. They (We) worry more about email, some photo apps, social networking, some games, and business related apps. Hell I had to talk them into rooting and such. One thing they do care about is the "feel" that my razor has; its uniqueness, they grab it, fondle it, leet it rest on their hands and stare at the kevlar.
That being said, I don't think I want to buy a plastic telephone that develops cracks for no apparent reason. Furthermore, if time and business allow I am considering learning the related stuff to Android development. Not just for the challenge and fun, but for the very principle "If you want something done your way, you get to it."
Nobody forced me, or any adult for that matter, to obtain and keep this phone. If anybody is that unhappy with their device, I'd say it will be quite simple to sell it and get something one wants.
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Related
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/55945
It is a good article, I think it is a good idea to spread this around. I think most of you would support this.
religi0n said:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/55945
It is a good article, I think it is a good idea to spread this around. I think most of you would support this.
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Man why is this such a hard thing to do by motorola, htc and samsung are cool with it, and lg i believe is too... why does moto have to have a stick up there asses
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Man why is this such a hard thing to do by motorola, htc and samsung are cool with it, and lg i believe is too... why does moto have to have a stick up there asses
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I think they feel like they would lose their business with the phone companies
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I think they feel like they would lose their business with the phone companies
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Instead consumers would be happy
KurioHonoo said:
I think they feel like they would lose their business with the phone companies
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But of course, because a locked bootloader is raking in all the cash.
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Avelnan said:
But of course, because a locked bootloader is raking in all the cash.
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Not For Long.
Time and time again people have pleaded with motorola about this issue. Motorola does not listen to it's customer's; it listen's to it's carrier's. It's up to a dev to get this thing unlocked. Period.
The x2 is kinda the redheaded step child of the dev community right now. We may be pretty SOL
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The x2 is kinda the redheaded step child of the dev community right now. We may be pretty SOL
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At least we will be getting a BAMF ROM soon, maybe then we will get some more developer love.
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Originally Posted by KurioHonoo
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Well, a few customers would be very happy. Unfortunately, the vast majority of customers have no idea what a custom ROM is, or care about even rooting their phone. Carriers like Verizon have much to gain by taking steps to insure that most of their phones in the field remain stock. I'd imagine that KurioHonoo hit it square on the head. Moto believes it more important to remain a favorite son of the carrires, rather than take a step that would please a small percentage of customers at the risk of doing anything to weaken their favored carrier status.
The fact that Moto manufactures much of the cell infrastructure equipment for the carriers probably reinforces this attitude.
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Well, a few customers would be very happy. Unfortunately, the vast majority of customers have no idea what a custom ROM is, or care about even rooting their phone. Carriers like Verizon have much to gain by taking steps to insure that most of their phones in the field remain stock. I'd imagine that KurioHonoo hit it square on the head. Moto believes it more important to remain a favorite son of the carrires, rather than take a step that would please a small percentage of customers at the risk of doing anything to weaken their favored carrier status.
The fact that Moto manufactures much of the cell infrastructure equipment for the carriers probably reinforces this attitude.
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The happy median is the "unofficial" leak. What a novel way to give something to everyone.
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a BAMF rom does us no good with a stock kernel
I sent this in to Droid life and tweeted it to Android Police and what not. Come on guys, stop the pitty party and lets show Motorola how big that actual def community is! We're not just a small percentage, I know that for a fact. At least around here, where I live, everyone knows or at least knows the basic idea of what rooting and such is, and they are aware that HTC is supportive and Motorola is currently not.
But let's retweet this link to Motorola, and post on that forum. Let's show them how big we really are!
This my be already posted but I haven't seen it on here yet. (this is my first post and I'm realllllly scared lol)
Motorola has released an updated list of their devices scheduled for Android 4.0! And finally, we have some confirmation that us X2 owners will get a taste of that delicious ICS. Moto hasn't really laid out the details yet, but atleast we know they're thinking about us! I found the article on Androidpolice.com. Since I'm a newbie, I can't post a link to it but just go to the website and search Motorola and it's second from the top!
Sidenote: Thank you all for sharing your knowledge! You guys make me feel like I actually know what I'm doing!
****EDIT****
Y'all already know I got a little excited when I first posted this... I am sorry for making it sound like "Hey we are definitely getting ICS!" I saw that the X2 was still in the "Evaluation and Planning" phase of development and truth is it could go either way! So thank you for not destroying this freshie and sharing your knowledge!
Droid X2 w/CM7 and lovin' it.
Would that include us Milestone owners? They're essentially the same device. If so.....YAY!
754boy said:
Would that include us Milestone owners? They're essentially the same device. If so.....YAY!
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As I understand it, the Milestone 3 is on the list!
I wouldn't put too much weight on the word of a company that said they'd give us unlocked bootloaders by the end of 11'.
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This my be already posted but I haven't seen it on here yet. (this is my first post and I'm realllllly scared lol)
Motorola has released an updated list of their devices scheduled for Android 4.0! And finally, we have some confirmation that us X2 owners will get a taste of that delicious ICS. Moto hasn't really laid out the details yet, but atleast we know they're thinking about us! I found the article on Androidpolice.com. Since I'm a newbie, I can't post a link to it but just go to the website and search Motorola and it's second from the top!
Sidenote: Thank you all for sharing your knowledge! You guys make me feel like I actually know what I'm doing!
Droid X2 w/CM7 and lovin' it.
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ummm on the website it says in evaluation that means they are seeing if it works good this is NOT a certainty do NOT get your hopes up. Moto has effed us over before :/
Motorola can kiss my rump. I'm getting ready to order a Galaxy Nexus as my main phone. Droid x2 is a great phone but its just too locked down for me. I miss having a working rom manager. I'm a flash addict and miss being able to flash without being plugged into the charger.
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This is the part that scares me...
Theve lied to us before....
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My bet is that "under evaluation" is their way of saying no, while stringing us along..
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Like I said in the other topic they best keep updating us at least onto more 2.3.? . This thing is still full of problems especially audio.
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This my be already posted but I haven't seen it on here yet. (this is my first post and I'm realllllly scared lol)
Motorola has released an updated list of their devices scheduled for Android 4.0! And finally, we have some confirmation that us X2 owners will get a taste of that delicious ICS. Moto hasn't really laid out the details yet, but atleast we know they're thinking about us! I found the article on Androidpolice.com. Since I'm a newbie, I can't post a link to it but just go to the website and search Motorola and it's second from the top!
Sidenote: Thank you all for sharing your knowledge! You guys make me feel like I actually know what I'm doing!
Droid X2 w/CM7 and lovin' it.
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Thanks for the post, however, this does not guarantee that ics is coming to the Droid. Notice it is in the planning and evaluation mode. Note how other phones are listed at getting ics in the 3rd quarter of 2012.
I wouldn't hold your breath.
People, I understand how companies have to plan for releases. Believe me, I know as I am an architect and developer for a major utility company. What I expect from Motorola are constant updates, not some vague posting that sits there for months with NO updates what-so-ever. Kind of like how we were promised to have unlocked bootloaders by the 4th quarter of 2011 and it never happened. Motorola NEVER gave an update as to why this was nor if they were going to do it at a later date. Instead, dead silence and then the release of the Droid RAZR Developer Edition which costs $100 more than the MSP and no guarantee that it would be released by Verizon or other carriers. In fact, it's not schedule for release in the US for some time, which could turn out to be never.
So, don't take this update from Motorola sitting down. We MUST continue to hound them, tactfully, to release ICS for the X2 and other Motorola phones that are more than capable of running it. In addition, they MUST be made to come through on their promise to unlock the bootloader. Remember, do it with tact. As I've stated in another post, I've already filed my BBB complaint to Motorola which has been accepted by the BBB and forwarded on to Motorola, so the ball is in their court now. I suggest everyone else does the same. The more complaints, the more likely they respond, hopefully with a gesture that meets our wants and needs.
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Motorola can kiss my rump. I'm getting ready to order a Galaxy Nexus as my main phone. Droid x2 is a great phone but its just too locked down for me. I miss having a working rom manager. I'm a flash addict and miss being able to flash without being plugged into the charger.
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I got rid of my DX2 for an LTE GN and I haven't looked back since. The open world of bootloaders is amazing!
donlad said:
I got rid of my DX2 for an LTE GN and I haven't looked back since. The open world of bootloaders is amazing!
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I'm ordering my Galaxy Nexus today. Never again will I spend money on a Motorola device.
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What's happened to Atrix forum, I see no more Android development for Motorola Atrix. is it depend to locking of bootloader by Motorola?
nejati said:
What's happened to Atrix forum, I see no more Android development for Motorola Atrix. is it depend to locking of bootloader by Motorola?
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What? You really have no idea what you are talking about do you? The devs are definitely still working on the Atrix, and you come across like you are questioning the devs and only an obnoxious person who wants and demands everything for free, without putting in any effort, will do that. No, our devs are still very much alive and kicking. They do have a life you know...
My bootloaders been unlocked for close to a year now...
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patience
You have to remember that these developers work from basically ground floor up, they are dependant on what is released from Motorola and Google, which is a whole lot of nothing on a good day. They also work on their own time without any real monetary support. We all have to just sit an enjoy our steak and stop worrying about what's for dessert.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxys3/
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*clap* its just another phone bro
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nejati said:
What's happened to Atrix forum, I see no more Android development for Motorola Atrix. is it depend to locking of bootloader by Motorola?
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You do realize that the bootloader was unlocked a long time ago right?...
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Are we getting trolled here or what the hell is going on? The Atrix has had continuous development from the first day of release until now and it is still going strong. We have a ton of roms to flash and awesome kernels. Just wait and watch when ICS comes out and this forum will be flooded with new **** for the Atrix.
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Just wait and watch when ICS comes out and this forum will be flooded with new **** for the Atrix.
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until then Google will release new Android version, maybe 5
Announce, maybe. But release? No.
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nejati said:
until then Google will release new Android version, maybe 5
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obvious troll is obvious. if you dislike the current state of the development for the atrix, go buy another phone. maybe an iphone. yearly releases of magical hardware and software.
Slowed, but not gone.
Atrix development has slowed somewhat, but it's still happening. One thing that I have noticed though, a significant number of people are shying away from xda and publishing developed ROMS on their personal websites.
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Atrix development has slowed somewhat, but it's still happening. One thing that I have noticed though, a significant number of people are shying away from xda and publishing developed ROMS on their personal websites.
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Probably because a lot more developers are getting tired of the increasing stream of BS that's flowing through the XDA forums (and it's not limited to the Atrix, either, not by a long shot). They probably figure that the increased exposure isn't worth all the crap they have to put up with.
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Probably because a lot more developers are getting tired of the increasing stream of BS that's flowing through the XDA forums (and it's not limited to the Atrix, either, not by a long shot). They probably figure that the increased exposure isn't worth all the crap they have to put up with.
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There's so many demanding people on here.
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It makes it hard for us as users as developers are constantly being asked by silly people to make the rom to thier specific taste and genuine issues or questions are lost in BS, if I hear another person whine about words with friends or some obscure apk they have to use, I am gonna scream lol.
Don't feed the trolls...
No more develop for Motorola because she is dead
Send From My Galaxy Gio and O2x
Al3xand3r# said:
No more develop for Motorola because she is dead
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Really? Mine looks pretty lively to me. Must be a zombie, I guess.
MJPollard said:
Really? Mine looks pretty lively to me. Must be a zombie, I guess.
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+1 mines got more life than I do.
Funny that when my friend who owns an IPhone cannot believe all the fun I have customizing my phone and how much faster and lighter my phone feels, and don't get me started on all the blackberry folks who have to charge their phone twice a day and don't believe how long my phone lasts. The Atrix is a beast and I plan on rocking it for a long long time.
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A bar of soap in a sock for Private Pile.
dsb9938 does some great work. As a (non-Android) developer myself, I know how frustrating it can be when software issues arise, especially when you have ungrateful users that feel like they are entitled to a piece of software that is developed for free by someone in their spare time that asks for nothing in return. It's disgusting. This is why we can't have nice things.
I hope that dsb9938 decides to come back. We need people like him to help unlock our devices full potential. Screw the whiners. Let them be drown in their own misery.
I agree with you... But this thread is getting locked in 3-2-1 BOOM!
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I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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Melodycd said:
I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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His account us temporarily disabled but he could probably make a new one or something since its not IP banning
Ban him. Pure and simple
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Brilliant guys.. at least get the guys name correct..Lol
If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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So there is no thread for *****ing so I am making myself one. I absolutely hate to no end that a couple of douchefags can ruin a good thing for everyone. One such big douchebag is that retard Luke666. How can he go in and start *****ing to a good dev like DSB who is doing so much good work for little to nothing or free. I am absolutely pissed of the outcome of the situation but I respect DSB's decision to move away from the jumpsuit and hope one day he can change his mind. I am from the rezound forums which had so much bull**** go on. I wish everyone that wants to run thier mouth would just scream at theirselfs in the mirror or bang their head on a door frame its all just BS but ok then we cant all get what we want. If a mod can close this thread as not to cause I flame war it would be great I just needed to get this off my chest. I hope everyone, well everyone but Luke667 had a Merry Christmas and has a Happy New Year
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And this comment makes you better than Luke 666 or Luke 667 or Luke1333? This is the issue with xda members. If you don't have something good to help the situation out don't say anything. Name calling isn't the answer.
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If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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This is in no way helpful
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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kids who read GPL and think they are owed, and DESERVE something. people like DSB do it in his free time, and people expect paid support.
that is what this is.
All i have to say about all of this is. Anyone should be able to say there opinion. That is in a good way. If you are just writing a post to piss someone off i believe that you should be banned from the forums. No ifs, and's, or buts.
It is ridiculous anyone would grip about a mod that clearly starts off with the phrase "I am in no way responsible..." I haven't even switched from the stock rom just because I want things to work. If I was willing to explore and felt like reloading my setup to switch roms, I wouldn't *****. It is to be expected. When a new rom is released, I wait to see what the issues (if any) are before I would attempt a re-flash.
There are good devs on this board but I have seen quite a few of them get chased away by whiners and complainers. Hell, I am still using a rom from Roebeet on my GTab who used to be here but left for the same reason. He actually started his own website to build roms. It is a hobby, not a job. Don't expect stuff and you will not be disappointed.
Just remember, a lot of these whiners are the new generation who will be running this country in a few years and making it suck for all of us.
So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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While Luke's comments weren't "productive" , they also were not rude or ban worthy. While I enjoy dsb's work, he has a bad attitude in general and I thought it was disrespectful as well as made him look like a giant cry baby for saying he'd never release anything else because Luke asked him to have some accountability for the fact he messed up on his latest kernel, 2.3.1 which was rebooting everybodies phones. Luke may have gone about it the wrong way, but I believe he felt as I did. Felt that dsb was ignoring the fact that there was something seriously wrong with his latest kernel. Dsb had incinuated that it wasn't his kernel that made everbodies phones lock up and reboot, but it was "problems with the phone, even on stock". Nobody minds if you make a mistake and your work directly messes up phones. At least take responsibility and admit you were wrong so you can start working on a fix. Also dsb was frequently rude to commentors who did nothing wrong or acted flip towards them. This behavior is simply unacceptable especially for a recognised developer. Recognized developers represent xda and they should carry themselves with respect for others and themselves while posting on the forums, even if others don't always.
To the OP of this thread. Grow up.
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So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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You can still do all those things. I followed the cube kernal from day one and to me the luke guy is being made a villian here. don't know him, don't care to know him. but DSB was very sarcastic to him on the forums. that's when they both started talking crap. either way it sucks and hope he decides to return. i used all the kernals he made and ended up sticking with the unsecured. but swipe to unlock was great. unless you've read the entire cube thread don't jump to judge.
Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke definitely is missing a filter. Again for me this isn't about Luke's actions but Dsb's. Dsb will constantly run into lukes everywhere in life. Not just on the forums. My advice to dsb is to work on his forbearance for others.
Just like the title says......I'm looking for a quadcore phone and for the price, can't really beat this but sadly to say, it's been released since November and have not seen very much action going on here.
Is the LG phone pretty much just the way it is?
Thank you,
Roderick
rgoyena said:
Just like the title says......I'm looking for a quadcore phone and for the price, can't really beat this but sadly to say, it's been released since November and have not seen very much action going on here.
Is the LG phone pretty much just the way it is?
Thank you,
Roderick
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We will have some stuff very soon. I hope before February, if not then, hopefully in Feb. There are people working on both CM10 and AOKP. The devs haven't had source so are sort of flying blind. They have mentioned they think source will drop soon.
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oh very nice......that's what I was thinking too maybe that the source was just not available at this point. Honestly, at this point, this phone is a monster and would love to see some development go on this. lol
In going to be honest..development sucks
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In going to be honest..development sucks
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If it sucks so bad then why don't you jump in if you could do better?
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drakeymcmb said:
In going to be honest..development sucks
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What more do you want, the devs don't want to spend to much time on building ICS ROMs when jelly Bean is right around the corner. Once the source drops expect things to pick up.
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I don't see why everyone is getting mad at the guy for saying it sucks because, compared to the other devices, it isn't getting much support. That's a fact. It sucks in the sense we don't have much support. It's awesome though that from the support this device DOES have, they seem to be really committed and knowledgeable and I truly believe this device is gonna have some awesome stuff in the coming months.
To the OP, it is getting better. When I first came here, devs were just working on getting the bootloader unlocked. And now we have quite a few ROMs and quite a few mods thanks to the awesome and devoted people in this section. This is still a brand new device and it's only getting better. Can't wait to see what the future has in store for this device!
I'm actually listing this on eBay to sale because I've tried my hand at bringing cm and without sources to go off of its extremely difficult. The phone itself has potential, but don't think it will get the support it deserves due to LG. I'm going back to Samsung and will live my days out there unfortunately.
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drakeymcmb said:
In going to be honest..development sucks
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As for that comment you should go give it a whirl I've spent last week working on a port package to bring 4.1 roms from n4 to this device but piecing together a kernel when that's not my forte is painful and ended in frustration...just ask my wife lol she didn't see my face much.
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jivy26 said:
I'm actually listing this on eBay to sale because I've tried my hand at bringing cm and without sources to go off of its extremely difficult. The phone itself has potential, but don't think it will get the support it deserves due to LG. I'm going back to Samsung and will live my days out there unfortunately.
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This....sold my OG and back on my S3. Inferior device....superior user experience. Kind of like the old school apple android days. By the time this thing gets any support, the S4 will be out and undoubtedly destroy the OG...
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jivy26 said:
As for that comment you should go give it a whirl I've spent last week working on a port package to bring 4.1 roms from n4 to this device but piecing together a kernel when that's not my forte is painful and ended in frustration...just ask my wife lol she didn't see my face much.
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Source is coming within the month most likely, and honestly I don't miss much from when I had JB on my old phone, but since we are getting JB soon anyways, and some of the devs have CM10 booting....
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I don't see why everyone is getting mad at the guy for saying it sucks because, compared to the other devices, it isn't getting much support. That's a fact. It sucks in the sense we don't have much support. It's awesome though that from the support this device DOES have, they seem to be really committed and knowledgeable and I truly believe this device is gonna have some awesome stuff in the coming months.
To the OP, it is getting better. When I first came here, devs were just working on getting the bootloader unlocked. And now we have quite a few ROMs and quite a few mods thanks to the awesome and devoted people in this section. This is still a brand new device and it's only getting better. Can't wait to see what the future has in store for this device!
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I think everyone is mad at LG for craptacular support of their device but taking it out on the poster because he is insinuating that the problem is with the developers. They are doing the best they can but only a very small handful of devs have the knowledge, time, and resources to overcome the obstacles in our way, again, because of LG. Once those roadblocks come down, then it will be much, much easier for the garden variety developer to customize and build ROM's for the LGOG, and things should take off.
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Development for this phone is non existent. Selling mine to a coworker.
Not the developers faults though. It's LG...and don't plan on buying anything from them again whether it's their TVs or phones. Just took 2 LG TVs back to the store that I bought for my office. I refuse to support a subpar company.
I just think it is insulting to the devs that are working on the device. And everyone thinks nothing is happening since the devs don't post their work here but on the irc Chanel. Is as of everyone expects a CM ROM to be available with in a week of the device dropping, even though we don't have kernel source.
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Anyone selling this great phone because "development sucks" let me know and ill buy it for cheap lol. Team Nocturnal Owns 3 Optimus G's for now and development takes time. nothing will happen over night guys, Sell now and cry later when all the cool roms and mods start popping out... Just saying.
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Anyone selling this great phone because "development sucks" let me know and ill buy it for cheap lol. Team Nocturnal Owns 3 Optimus G's for now and development takes time. nothing will happen over night guys, Sell now and cry later when all the cool roms and mods start popping out... Just saying.
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You east coast? I get free UPS shipping thru my business. PM me an offer. I won't cry losing this phone. It was the first S4 Pro phone... Now they're about to be a dime a dozen. I hope you guys end up with a wonderful development scene. However, it's LG, not any dev here.
I just can't believe all the negativity. Every new device takes time. I also don't miss JB at all. This device is faster than all the other ones I've had.
I also can't believe that there is another thread asking about development. There's a section for that. All you have to do is look there.
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Anyone selling this great phone because "development sucks" let me know and ill buy it for cheap lol. Team Nocturnal Owns 3 Optimus G's for now and development takes time. nothing will happen over night guys, Sell now and cry later when all the cool roms and mods start popping out... Just saying.
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I don't believe they are trying to talk bad about the great work this entire Dev community has done, but rather about LG. You guys have done a great job with what you were given. The OG components wise is a great product, but the fact that LG released it obviously will hinder its progress and potential. GL to you guys and I am sure you will release a great product with exceptional support unlike LG
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Now they're about to be a dime a dozen.
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Not anywhere near a $99 price point, but I agree. Would've waited but I can't afford an upgrade being in college, and I managed to get this phone for free.
Not to be pessimistic, but LG takes their sweet time releasing source. Coming from a G2X and 03D.
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