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Windows Mobile on X10
Hello
It will be nice to see HTC HD2 WM and Sende running on the HW X10.
Why?????????!
th4r said:
Why?????????!
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I'm thinking the same thing. Why!? WinMo is a dieing OS (MS is abandoning it themselves), and though I haven't played with 6.5, 6.1 (and the thousands of apps that are available) tend not to be particularly touchscreen optimized. For an all-touch phone, it'd be pretty horrible to use.
Yeah. WinMo on an Android device is just... wrong. It's like trading in a Corvette ZR1 for a Camaro. Both will get you chicks, but a different class.
DISCLAIMER: Pulling out your smartphone is not guaranteed to get you girls.
uultramann said:
Yeah. WinMo on an Android device is just... wrong. It's like trading in a Corvette ZR1 for a Camaro. Both will get you chicks, but a different class.
DISCLAIMER: Pulling out your smartphone will not get you girls.
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Got me one on the train ... we still hang out time to time.
BuddyLee said:
Got me one on the train ... we still hang out time to time.
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Lol nice try ... my standards are kinda high to go for someone like that ...
beides i cant be talking to a girl more pro than me.
saltorio said:
I'm thinking the same thing. Why!? WinMo is a dieing OS (MS is abandoning it themselves), and though I haven't played with 6.5, 6.1 (and the thousands of apps that are available) tend not to be particularly touchscreen optimized. For an all-touch phone, it'd be pretty horrible to use.
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I would love to be able to dual boot both os's
just like on my computer options are great
personal reasons would be purchased apps like garmin and games ect...
I started with wm and still love it, I still have xp on my computer there are apps and programs that only work on xp.
I just got a g1 and love it but it does have its fall backs
I either want a fully working android os on my tp2 or an android device like x10 running wm.
I mean I love ubuntu but Im not going to give up my xp or win7
options are lifes answers
nate
ps the only apps that are not touch screen for windows mobile are for windows smart phone plus developement has been out for years for wm because they were the first. I would hate to give up my playstation emulator, full version of star craft, and fully working remote desktop
Re: Windows Mobile on X10
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WM is more mature OS than Android. Some things like Exchange ActiveSync integration are a bit lacking on Android right now. VPN support is another example. I am sure Android will mature with the time, but X10 will be released with older 1.6 which I consider a step back. Sony Ericsson are not exactly famous with their software quality or speed of development which is yet another reason to make winmo option on X10 desirable. I doubt it will ever happen, but who knows...
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X10 with Windows Mobile
anyone know, will that be possible to have windows mobile on X10 ?? or someone already working on it ?? thanks,
leobg said:
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WM is more mature OS than Android. Some things like Exchange ActiveSync integration are a bit lacking on Android right now. VPN support is another example. I am sure Android will mature with the time, but X10 will be released with older 1.6 which I consider a step back. Sony Ericsson are not exactly famous with their software quality or speed of development which is yet another reason to make winmo option on X10 desirable. I doubt it will ever happen, but who knows...
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Yeah, that's true. At least the X10 comes with Moxier so it has support for Exchange. But sure, WM is much further ahead in that department, at least until 7 comes out.
I think that would be cool, but you would need to have access to another device running Windows Mobile with the same hardware in order to obtain the correct drivers.
Thanks God it's not a WinMo device - it would be a complete waste of such an awesome hardware, to run such an utter junk OS...
gabriel_jlc said:
anyone know, will that be possible to have windows mobile on X10 ?? or someone already working on it ?? thanks,
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Might as well get a netbook and skype if you want WinMo on the X10
szlevi said:
Thanks God it's not a WinMo device - it would be a complete waste of such an awesome hardware, to run such an utter junk OS...
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That depends on what you want to use. But yeah, for me Android is WAY much better than WinMo!
android is awesom but till date windows is the best at memory managment...
but yeah i would not want to see wm on this super device!!!
Once my carrier offers the X10 on the 15th, I plan on getting one so that I can sell it and buy a new WinMo phone to upgrade my Touch Pro.
I guess that makes me crazy.
trueg said:
Once my carrier offers the X10 on the 15th, I plan on getting one so that I can sell it and buy a new WinMo phone to upgrade my Touch Pro.
I guess that makes me crazy.
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Yep, you are crazy
By the way, i'm a Rogers customer for like 6 months.
I guess there is no way in the world to get a subsidized X10 right?
There is going to be an early upgrade option but 6 months is probably not going to be enough tenure.
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android is awesom but till date windows is the best at memory managment...
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This is probably the funniest comment WRT WinMo vs anything. O :O
I know a while ago there was talk of cotulla and friends getting WM6.5 to run off SD, does anyone know anything from irc or anywhere if this was completely abandoned?
would be pretty cool.
haven't heard anything, though not too up to date on the IRC stuff.
but no talk here minus that one post by cotulla.
if i may, what is on WM that android doesn't have? i don't use my phone but for a few programs (specific work things) and modding is mainly a distraction for me...but am curious how a dual-OS existence works in real life. just pondering. (now i am all about the development as well, it is bad ass to have options, but just philosophizing..if that is a word...)
jsmccabe78 said:
haven't heard anything, though not too up to date on the IRC stuff.
but no talk here minus that one post by cotulla.
if i may, what is on WM that android doesn't have? i don't use my phone but for a few programs (specific work things) and modding is mainly a distraction for me...but am curious how a dual-OS existence works in real life. just pondering. (now i am all about the development as well, it is bad ass to have options, but just philosophizing..if that is a word...)
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well currently I have WP7 and Android dual-boot. The reason it's nice is because WP7 does have a couple games I like and just for the "fun change OS" factor. Practically speaking neither WM6.5 nor WP7 have anything really functionally better, but I miss playing "experiment 13" on WM6.5 and I also wanted to play with all of the new CHT goodies I see for fun. It's more of an enjoyment thing than any real practical need.
I dual boot between 6.5 and android.
6.5 for work when I need a solid data connection and a no nonsense browser (opera 9.7).
Android at home when I want to use the XDA app and look at pictures of cats hiding in shoes....
About 6.5 from SD.
I think it may take them some time as Wm as an OS is somewhat more awkward and tricky to tinker with than android. As far as porting it is concerned. That's what I read somewhere anyway....
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It would be great to have winmo on sd many of us could then go to nand Android having opportunity to boot winmo as alternative. For example I have my beloved gps soft on winmo...
I too think it would be great to boot Win Mo from SD. This would give poople the awsome ability to still use Win Mo after that have went NAND Andriod or WP7. I myself still use the stock Win Mo ROM as my daily and preferred OS cause it fits me better and my needs better. But if I was abale to boot Win Mo from SD I would give WP7 a try for a while. I like Andriod well enough but it is just not as functional to me plus I can running it from SD anytime I want so I see no reason to go NAND.
I do think it will take a good bet longer to achieve this ability though cause compared to Andriod Windows Mobile is a much larger OS and it is written with different code. But if anyone can do it is the Cottula and the rest of DFT.
I agree it would be nice. Actually having all the OS options on boot would be nice. Just was curious what people use in Wm that isn't available elsewhere. Cool!
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jsmccabe78 said:
I agree it would be nice. Actually having all the OS options on boot would be nice. Just was curious what people use in Wm that isn't available elsewhere. Cool!
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To answer your queatuon it is really not that things in Win Mo are not avaliable in other OS'c but that so much comes built into Win Mo and for the functionality of it is more complete, atleast for me. Take things like internet sharingl/tethering and WiFi sharing. With Win Mo all you have to do is install the application and you are good. With Andriod you have to root the device for this and many more things. I like the full functionality of Micosoft Office compared to it on other mobile OS's. I like the feel of Win Mo too as it is more like a mobile PC or a extention of your home or office PC. Plus Win Mo is a true stand alone OS where as Andriod runs on top of Linux. Also to me Andriod feels more like a childs toy than a truly functional OS. Now I have not had but a limited amount of experience with WP7, but to me it is less functional than Andriod and more of a reversion to a some what dumb phone OS as it gives you limited capabilities and interface. That is just my opinion.
Would a sd build be with or without sense?
I agree it.Thank you for sharing, like very much
Very much down to whoever cooks the Roms. Once such a port is achieved anyone will be able to build roms so you'll get one of your choice.
If anyone can take care of this its cotulla and his crew!
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It is a long time which developers attracted to WP7 and android, and I've never attracted to new builds in this section.
of-course it was started for me when I've tried the first customized ROM with my HD2.
When I had Diamond, the Cooked ROM were better than the Original ones but on my HD2, the original ones are better and more stable.
Any comments?
any Idea?
please give me your opinions.
wrong section.
stock roms better than customs in HD2? you havent tried many then.. or at all.
I had diamond too and there were really good custom roms but that time there was NONE this big jump from stock to better usability.
try elegancia for example and you find really stable, fast, eye candy rom with great stuff in it.
My HD (Blackstone) was abandoned by HTC with windows 6.1 and Manilla 2.1... the amazing Devs of XDA made it a WM6.5 Sense super-machine. The HD2 (Leo) is still the best WM phone out there and microsoft themselves aren't pushing out anything much new... so the Dev's haven't got the same amount of raw material to work from to take the HD2 beyond stock (not within WM anyway).
And as the post above says, "wrong section"!
I think that Marketing drives development, because from free development You can get money with support or with custom dev.
On WM6.5 there is no more marketing around by Microsoft, at least since WP7 was commercialized.
It's just because of Windows Mobile is dying. You can't help it. No new things to port, to tweak and to achieve on our devices. Add to that Android and Windows Phone 7 working perfectly on HD2 and there is your answer.
But I have to admit that there are few heroes supporting Windows Mobile, like sir Sternas who is still improving his ROM with his own Software. I have to say that WM is very useful and capable OS, it's just no one is developing and creating for it no more. I found it troublesome to find one decent twitter client (except Peep of course) for WM, whereas on Android I just head to Market, type twitter and BAM, dozens of twitter clients, one better than other, appear. I love Sense and tried hard to use Windows Mobile (best OS to use just as a phone and basic internet browser), but if I wanted to something more than it's included in phone, it's almost impossible. You understand me?
What ROM is Sterna's?
Sternas rom is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
"Stop worrying about Windows Mobile. The name is changing. It's not a big deal. It isn't a dead platform. (At least not yet, anyway. )"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11975316&postcount=1423
Cooked ROM on HD2
Check and search XDA for ROMs on my signature.
I agree, there have been no news for applications, I mean on the WM 6.5.5.
Developers, I believe, have given up developing apps for an already dead platform
nbee said:
"Stop worrying about Windows Mobile. The name is changing. It's not a big deal. It isn't a dead platform. (At least not yet, anyway. )"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11975316&postcount=1423
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The page you reference clearly says that there will be no more phones with anything other than WP7. The other devices are specialized for a certain purpose, or are tablets / pads, etc. Not phones.
I love WM despite it's flaws, but I don't expect more applications. The people from which I have purchased WM software are only updating android.
nbee said:
"Stop worrying about Windows Mobile. The name is changing. It's not a big deal. It isn't a dead platform. (At least not yet, anyway. )"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11975316&postcount=1423
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Thanks for quoting the info.
Many people are visiting here everyday. Windows Mobile is not dead. The cooked ROM is updated more frequent than the official stock ROM. It is still alive
As an application developer I loved Windows Mobile as it was a very capable platform (I have apps that I wrote for it that I couldn't have written for other mobile device) and the development tools (Visual Studio, SQL Server CE, etc) rock, so I'm not really happy or understand why WM is dying, but it seems it is. The question is what to replace it with. XDA Developers seems to jumped over to Android, and likely I try developing something for Android, but no doubt it will take some time before I find something I like better then Windows Mobile (I'm still writing apps for WM as its the platform I like to use myself and the ROMs here rock, for example I'm using the Energy HD2 ROM and can't find a reason to leave it, what does Android give me that Energy doesn't have?)
Android
DukeNukem said:
As an application developer I loved Windows Mobile as it was a very capable platform (I have apps that I wrote for it that I couldn't have written for other mobile device) and the development tools (Visual Studio, SQL Server CE, etc) rock, so I'm not really happy or understand why WM is dying, but it seems it is. The question is what to replace it with. XDA Developers seems to jumped over to Android, and likely I try developing something for Android, but no doubt it will take some time before I find something I like better then Windows Mobile (I'm still writing apps for WM as its the platform I like to use myself and the ROMs here rock, for example I'm using the Energy HD2 ROM and can't find a reason to leave it, what does Android give me that Energy doesn't have?)
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Android is the way to go. It has a brighter future that windows 7. It is becoming a very nice os. Windows 7 is a dead duck cant do anything with it.
What do you find in this ugly Android? Except the faster reaction comparing to WM.
It's even a problem to find a good dialer for Android.
Rest Windows Mobile rocks. Very flexible and customizable. Lot of dealers for your choice. Lot of other software.
I don't understand why people jump to some other system.
I better use WM7 then Android.
DuQ3r said:
What do you find in this ugly Android? Except the faster reaction comparing to WM.
It's even a problem to find a good dialer for Android.
Rest Windows Mobile rocks. Very flexible and customizable. Lot of dealers for your choice. Lot of other software.
I don't understand why people jump to some other system.
I better use WM7 then Android.
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Android is better because the development is continuing (unlike Winmo).
You will know why is Android better if you use Android as native (in Android handset not in HD2)
Cheers..
silverwind said:
Android is better because the development is continuing (unlike Winmo).
You will know why is Android better if you use Android as native (in Android handset not in HD2)
Cheers..
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Based on my experience with the LG G2X (I have two of them) android is a battery sucking nightmare that can't even download emails on a regular basis. Not to mention all the privacy concerns and ridiculous amounts of ads. It is useless as a business phone. It seems to be a toy OS for kids.
My HD2 with Elegancia by Steve runs flawlessly. If I want android toys and games a SD version works fine.
My wife wants to keep her G2X, but mine is going back because it is a piece of crap.
jcbofkc said:
Based on my experience with the LG G2X (I have two of them) android is a battery sucking nightmare that can't even download emails on a regular basis. Not to mention all the privacy concerns and ridiculous amounts of ads. It is useless as a business phone. It seems to be a toy OS for kids.
My HD2 with Elegancia by Steve runs flawlessly. If I want android toys and games a SD version works fine.
My wife wants to keep her G2X, but mine is going back because it is a piece of crap.
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I understand about battery sucking in Android But it also happens with Iphone and BB
So, it doesnt mean Android is bad...
I think the development of Battery technology is far left behind from the development of the device and os..
The disadvantage is as you said about privacy and ads, I do agree with you
About WInmo, dont get me wrong, I still keep my HD2 and it runs smooth with Platinum Series (see my sig). Only that, you dont have market to play with. Windows Market is not interesting to me So, I rarely play with my HD2, instead I use it more with SD Android ...
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Anyone know how can I run windows phone 7 instead of android on my SGS2
As someone who has used WM7 believe me when I say you aren't missing much. Seriously, why would you want to take the best handset on the market at the moment and cripple it with a limited and highly restrictive operating system?
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Shujitzu said:
Anyone know how can I run windows phone 7 instead of android on my SGS2
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Close your eyes and pretend your running WP7?
Unless you have extensive coding knowledge, its never gonna happen.
Edit : although there is the metro ui launcher and wp7 music app so
You could kinda emulate the experience.
Hi there
Im currently a windows 6.5.5 user on an HD2 with custom ROM.
However my upgrade is due in a few weeks and i have been eyeing up the Titan.
Im aware WP7 is a different OS to win mo 6.5.5 but how different? Ive played with Android and it just doesnt do what i want it to so felt the need to stick with the Windows OS.
does the app store for WP7 have enough in it to keep you amused or is it still a bit bare?
Symondo said:
Hi there
Im currently a windows 6.5.5 user on an HD2 with custom ROM.
However my upgrade is due in a few weeks and i have been eyeing up the Titan.
Im aware WP7 is a different OS to win mo 6.5.5 but how different? Ive played with Android and it just doesnt do what i want it to so felt the need to stick with the Windows OS.
does the app store for WP7 have enough in it to keep you amused or is it still a bit bare?
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If you din't find satisfaction from Android Market, I highly doubt Windows Market is yet ready for you. The key features missing right now in my opinion are:
-system back up
-sms back up
-few major apps (I don't care about apps, I've got all that I need)
-customization (we will have unlock hopefully soon!)
Other than this, I think it looks much more professional that Android at most stages. Communication, social networking - is integrated like no other OS and it will only get better with 2 updates in 2012!
If you are someone who has patience for atleast next 6-8 months - Buy titan, you will love it!
If you are someone who has patience but has huge surge of apps daily and huge need to customize things - Get Android. By the time you finish your 2 year long contract, we will surely have Windows Phone 9 which I can bet will be the most amazing OS ever! (here is to wishful thinking!)
In a nutshell I can say, I've gone from WM6- WM6.5- WM6.5.5- Android2.2 -Android2.3- Android2.3.5- WP7.5 and I thought this was the most amazing thing I held in my hand since a long long time! - "It just works"
How you like Windows Phone 7 is really going to depend on how you currently use your Windows Mobile and/or Android phone.
Windows Mobile (and Android) let you go crazy with customization, mods, ROMs, etc. Windows Phone 7 is very locked down. Not a whole lot of customization. But because its so locked down, its incredibly stable (does not crash or slow down as often, if at all). The number one thing about Windows Phone 7 is that it just works. No tweaking, or hacking the registry, or installing modification on top of modification. You turn it on, 15 seconds later, it just works, flawlessly.
If you use Outlook and a USB cable to sync your information (contacts, email, etc.) to your phone, then you can't do that anymore. Windows Phone 7 only lets you sync media (pictures, music, videos) to your phone via the Zune software. Everything else is in the cloud and tied to your Windows Live account.
Windows Phone 7 offers unparalleled connectivity and integration with Microsoft services (Hotmail, Zune, Bing, Xbox Live, etc. etc.).
If you are living alright with the Marketplace currently on Windows Mobile, then the Windows Phone 7 Marketplace easily beats that one easily. Only difference is that without some kind of developer unlocking of your phone, you can load apps from your PC like you could with Windows Mobile.
Really you just have to try it before you really commit. Most people love it, fewer hate it. Coming from Windows Mobile, and depending on your current view of Windows Mobile, you may see it as a giant leap forward, or a big step backwards.
I came from Windows Mobile 6.5, and then Android, and now Windows Phone 7, and I just can't go back to anything else. My phone, just works, and its fast, and fluid, and beautiful, and its got the apps that I need, and the integration with Microsoft stuff that I use.
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If you use Outlook and a USB cable to sync your information (contacts, email, etc.) to your phone, then you can't do that anymore.
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You can't load your contacts via USB cable as a USB device, but you surely can sync your Outlook contacts, emails, tasks, calender wirelessly flawlessly too!
Symondo said:
Hi there
Im currently a windows 6.5.5 user on an HD2 with custom ROM.
However my upgrade is due in a few weeks and i have been eyeing up the Titan.
Im aware WP7 is a different OS to win mo 6.5.5 but how different? Ive played with Android and it just doesnt do what i want it to so felt the need to stick with the Windows OS.
does the app store for WP7 have enough in it to keep you amused or is it still a bit bare?
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As you've got a HD2 I'd recommend using Yuki's Win 7 ROM. I did and that convinced me to move onto the Titan (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250869).
As for the other comments on WP7, I agree WP7 is locked down however I'm quite happy with what's available on the Marketplace and I'm convinced that the experts at XDA will find ways of allowing us to mod as with WP 6.5.
Symondo said:
Hi there
Im currently a windows 6.5.5 user on an HD2 with custom ROM.
However my upgrade is due in a few weeks and i have been eyeing up the Titan.
Im aware WP7 is a different OS to win mo 6.5.5 but how different? Ive played with Android and it just doesnt do what i want it to so felt the need to stick with the Windows OS.
does the app store for WP7 have enough in it to keep you amused or is it still a bit bare?
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Well WP7 is designed with a different mindset... Namely, that you get all your information as fast and efficiently as possible, and therefore you spend less time playing with the phone and OS itself, and more time using it (as a tool). For example, you wouldn't spend hours a day playing with your screwdriver =D.
When you adapt to this mindset, you'll find Android and especially iOS just cannot compare.
Of course the exception is WP7 has excellent media functions and games. The XNA developer tool allows for beautiful games to be created much easier for WP7, and as XNA is already used for Xbox arcade games, many of those Xbox titles can be and have already been ported to WP7.
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Cheers for the input
I'm looking forward to a new device!