I am ready to root my Eris planning to use the one click app.do I need to back up my current stock system,and if so how? Thanks in advance.
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antshan4 said:
I am ready to root my Eris planning to use the one click app.do I need to back up my current stock system,and if so how? Thanks in advance.
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The one-click root process only replaces the custom recovery, and from there you can immediately make what is called a "Nandroid" backup. That will make a complete backup of the regular OS & user data on the phone. You do this step immediately - the first time you use the Amon_RA recovery.
Without root, there is no way to back up your phone completely; you need root privileges to do that.
That means that if in the future you wanted to "return to stock behavior", you could simply restore your first Nandroid backup. The phone will work exactly as a stock phone, but of course will not be a "pure" stock phone because it will still have a custom recovery on it.
If you decide to return to 100% stock you can use the "FlashBack15 v1" ROM, available here on XDA.
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well theres a lot of old info out there, having a hard time sorting some of this stuff out!
I have a stock Eris that came from Verizon with 2.1 on it already. I'd like to root it, but does that mean I have to install a custom ROM? or is there a way to get root with the ROM thats already on the phone? Sorry noob questions I know but I've read over the adb command stuff and it sound easy, but I'd like some clarification on what each command does and what each file is for, etc...I have the sdk set up already on my computer. I hear stuff about bootloader versions, radio versions and stuff too, does this stuff get modified as well during this process? and if so, is there a way to revert to 100% stock if I have to send it in for warranty or insurance? keep in mind this phone already had 2.1 from verizon, if that matters.
You can root your phone using jcase's 1 click root app from the market all you have to do is run the app, reboot into recovery by holding power and volume up or down(mine ia volume up my roomates is volume down) and flash the rootme.zip file the app places on your sd card. Doing this will root your current os and you will not lose any data. At that point you can wipe and flash a custom rom instead of the rootme.zip by having one downloaded and already on your sd card. Make sure its not in a folder. If you want to do things like overclocking you will need a custom rom as the stock kernel does not support it. You can also just flash a new kernel its the same as flashing a rom. Anyway check out jcase one click root thread in the eris development section for more detailed instructions and on youtube lostelement has some great videos showing how to root the eris and flash a rom step by step. Hope this helps.
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can you still root this eris using the command terminal? or do I have to do the 1-click method? and as far as returning the phone to 100% stock, is there a RUU program that will restore everything to stock? I've seen some threads but it seems like many of the download links are getting broken for some reason?
EDIT: also, jcase's 1-click method installs Amon's recovery correct? and this file..."rootme.zip" is this like a "patch" that is applied to the current OS to provide root, whereas flashing a new custom rom will delete and replace everything but this custom rom has been writtn to provide root access already? sorry so many questions, just trying to get a handle on this before I try it and do something stupid/expensive haha
Yes there are ruu's to go back to stock. I believe you can still use the terminal but one click root is easier and it does give you amon ra recovery. Flashing rootme.zip will root your stock os and give you superuser permissions app which allows you to manage what apps are granted root access.
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And customs roms are all ready to for root. If your flashing a custom rom you don't need to flash rootme.zip.
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Does flashing custom roms change the hboot version or the radio version? Also for some reason when I do the vol-up+end when I power on it shows a screen with a red triangle with an exclamation point, is this normal until I flash the new recovery image?
Yea that's normal until you flash a new recovery and the roms don't affect the radio or hboot. They must be flashed separately. Be very careful flashing a radio. A bad radio flash is the easiest way to brick your phone.
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probably wont touch the radio or hboot, not many ppl seem to need to. as far as the RUU goes, it will re-flash the recovery and the rom back to the same as they were out-of-box correct? wondering if anybody has a link to this file, all links i've found are broken
I haven't had to use it but from what I understand its an executable file that you run on your pc while your phone is plugged in via usb. If you need it im sure someone would be able to post a fresh link or email it to you.
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thx steve for all your help so far If anybody has a link to the RUU for the official original 2.1 eris, email it to me or link in this thread, also wondering if theres a link to the official 2.1 ROM (the non-root version and not the leak versions, the "official" OTA is what I mean.) In case something bad happens with a ROM I install that i have the original to flash, thay way I can keep Amon's recovery on the phone instead of using the RUU, personally having a hard time finding it. seems liek all the stock roms are labeled PB00IMG?
After you root, in amonra you can do a nandroid backup, which will completely back up everything on your phone to your sd card. If you don't like a rom or are having problems you can just recover your backup and your phone will be as it was when you made the backup. I keep nandroids of a few different roms and just switch between them sometimes.
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So is there any advantage at all to being rooted on the stock rom? That's where I am now. I will probably stay there for a while until I decide what ROM I want to try. I installed an overclocking widget from the marketplace just to try it out, but from the sounds of this thread, its a waste of time with the stock rom.
Rooted on a stock Rom sucks. Battery life compared to a froyo based Rom is exponentially better imo. Nonsensikal vanilla v7 was the Rom of choice but I'm back to stock because I have to send the phone back to VZW
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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It's really not that difficult one click Eris root run rootme.zip download and extract the Rom of your choice. Run amon ras recovery nandroid backup wipe flash new Rom and voila. Easy as pie.
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I did the one click Eris root already, and just applied the rootme.zip. So installing a new rom would mean copying it to the root of the SD card, rebooting and holding down the volume key and then picking that new zip file, correct? I don't know what that amon ras recovery thingy is. Is that part of rom installation, or something that I need to acquire separately?
You need to copy the Rom to your SD card and use estrongs file explorer download from market and long press on the .zip file it will pull up a menu that gives you some options. Extract from the .zip file and hit ok no new path is needed. Now that yuu have the file on your SD card reboot and go to recovery nandroid backup then wipe then flash from zip. After it unpacked and loads then it will prompt you to reboot hit okay and let it do its thing. I'm going to end all this with saying double check the forums for how tos and I'm not responsible for a bricked phone do this at your own risk but have fun itsreally not that difficult
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I'm not responsible for a bricked phone
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Yep, I realize that. You know that you don't actually have to answer my questions right? If I ask more noob questions, know that I am not expecting you personally to answer them.
I'm at work and all of my equipment I maintain is working so I'm killing sometime
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Hello,
I have a new thunderbolt, which is not rooted. What is the best way to get rid of apps such as Blockbuster, v-cast stuff, etc., etc, while keeping the phone stock? Is this even possible?
Sorry for the newb question and thanks for any help
If you don't root, you can't remove them.
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If you don't root, you can't remove them.
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Yep, not possible unless you root. One of the nice things about Gingerbread is you can default to frequently used apps and never see the bloatware.
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Thanks for the replies
It is possible, of course, to root the phone and not install another ROM, correct? To just leave the OS as it is, and use something like Titanium Backup to delete stuff from there?
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Thanks for the replies
It is possible, of course, to root the phone and not install another ROM, correct? To just leave the OS as it is, and use something like Titanium Backup to delete stuff from there?
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ROM does not necessarily mean custom. There are stock ROMs pulled from the updates/leaks that are not modified by anyone. Using one of those would be what you want.
But is it possible not to install/flash anything after rooting? Just leave it as it is?
Use revolutionary method and you can stick with stock rom and be rooted. It'll replace your hboot with a custom one with s-off, then flash clockwork for custom recovery, then install superuser via recovery. Your rom will be complete stock with root then.
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revolutionary method?
http://revolutionary.io/
Don't use the one click methods, use the adb method or revolutionary method. Adb method will delete your data, revolutionary will let you keep your data, but it takes extra steps to revert to the stock bootloader.
Hi, I'm currently using the latest ClockworkMod as my recovery. I've never had any problem with it (had it on my og evo as well), but I'm hearing a lot of great things about twrp recovery, so I'd like to make the switch. I'm all clear on most of the process, but is it correct that I'll need to make new nandroid backups? If so, should I delete my cwm nands? How would I go about doing that? And am I correct that I'd need to revert to my stock (first) nandroid, flash the new recovery from there, make a new twrp nandroid, and then go back to cm7? Just want to be sure, as I know that nandroids are a lifeline and I don't want to screw anything up. Thanks in advance!
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Hi, I'm currently using the latest ClockworkMod as my recovery. I've never had any problem with it (had it on my og evo as well), but I'm hearing a lot of great things about twrp recovery, so I'd like to make the switch. I'm all clear on most of the process, but is it correct that I'll need to make new nandroid backups?
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yes
If so, should I delete my cwm nands? How would I go about doing that?
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yes, on your sdcard/clockworkmod/backups
And am I correct that I'd need to revert to my stock (first) nandroid, flash the new recovery from there, make a new twrp nandroid, and then go back to cm7?
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no, you can just make a nand with the new recovery of your current setup, no need to revert
Just want to be sure, as I know that nandroids are a lifeline and I don't want to screw anything up. Thanks in advance!
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Sounds good. What to do though if I need to ever go back to stock rom? (Unlikely anyhow). Will I be able to find a stock rooted rom in the dev forums?
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Update: flashed twrp, made a nandroid without a hitch. Thanks so much! Will hit thanks button when I get to a PC.
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Sounds good. What to do though if I need to ever go back to stock rom? (Unlikely anyhow). Will I be able to find a stock rooted rom in the dev forums?
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If u want to go back to cwm to restore an old nandroid just dl rom manager from market and reflash cwm it will flash over Twrp and then u can use your cwm nandroids.
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Hi all
Just got my new phone and WOW! Had a Desire which was rooted via Revolution, phone was s-off with 4ext recovery,CWM, TB, Bootmanager and other apps which only installed if rooted/s-off.
I have looked at a load of threads and seem to have got bogged down with with what rooting process to use; CF- Root, DooMLord etc
Thinking of rooting new SG2 through DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit v4.0. mainly because it has an unroot process but have a few questions peeps.
1. Is the rooting way I am thinking best way for root?
2. It says in the title easy..is it?
3. What do i back up after root? or is it just a nandroid with 4ext/CWM?
4. Can above mentioned apps be installed after root?
5. Can any Roms and/or Kernells be installed from the SG2 posts or are there certain ones for whichever way you rooted? Any recommendations?
6. If it all goes pear shaped is the unroot process safe for back to stock?
Thanks and have a good evening
fs1023 said:
1. Is the rooting way I am thinking best way for root?
2. It says in the title easy..is it?
3. What do i back up after root? or is it just a nandroid with 4ext/CWM?
4. Can above mentioned apps be installed after root?
5. Can any Roms and/or Kernells be installed from the SG2 posts or are there certain ones for whichever way you rooted? Any recommendations?
6. If it all goes pear shaped is the unroot process safe for back to stock?
Thanks and have a good evening
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1. You can use ZergRush if you're on 2.3.5
2. It's simple
3. You should do a nandroid backup and backup your /EFS folder
4. CWM can be used if you install a custom kernel (it has a modified CWM for galaxy), everything else yes
5. You can install any kernel as long as it's not for ICS. It will bestated so in the post
6. Unrooting via zergrush is just doing a full wipe and all traces are gone. If you use a custom kernel then your counter goes up and you'll need to flash a stock kernel and erase th counter via USB jig if you want to retunr the phone or bring it to a service center (else you void the warranty)
Thanks for prompt reply bpvik.
Did really want change kernels in case I messed it up. Btw why not use any ICS kernels? And how do I get back to stock after kernel?
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bpivk said:
1. You can use ZergRush if you're on 2.3.5
2. It's simple
3. You should do a nandroid backup and backup your /EFS folder
4. CWM can be used if you install a custom kernel (it has a modified CWM for galaxy), everything else yes
5. You can install any kernel as long as it's not for ICS. It will bestated so in the post
6. Unrooting via zergrush is just doing a full wipe and all traces are gone. If you use a custom kernel then your counter goes up and you'll need to flash a stock kernel and erase th counter via USB jig if you want to retunr the phone or bring it to a service center (else you void the warranty)
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Do you think CF root would be better to root?
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Is it safe to assume that a backup done with TWRP will not work with CWM?
Also, on the developer page, it says to use one recovery vs another. Is this mandatory or it just the developer's personal preference?
The reason I ask is that when I first rooted my phone I flashed TWRP and did a back up. Then, to get this other ROM on my phone, it was said to use CWM, which I flashed in place of TWRP. If I wanted to go back to my original backup, would I need to reflash TWRP so that I could restore that back up?
Thanks in advance.
garment69 said:
Is it safe to assume that a backup done with TWRP will not work with CWM?
Also, on the developer page, it says to use one recovery vs another. Is this mandatory or it just the developer's personal preference?
The reason I ask is that when I first rooted my phone I flashed TWRP and did a back up. Then, to get this other ROM on my phone, it was said to use CWM, which I flashed in place of TWRP. If I wanted to go back to my original backup, would I need to reflash TWRP so that I could restore that back up?
Thanks in advance.
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Yes. You must use what you backed up with. Either one will flash any Rom.
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