Hello,
I have a new thunderbolt, which is not rooted. What is the best way to get rid of apps such as Blockbuster, v-cast stuff, etc., etc, while keeping the phone stock? Is this even possible?
Sorry for the newb question and thanks for any help
If you don't root, you can't remove them.
yareally said:
If you don't root, you can't remove them.
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Yep, not possible unless you root. One of the nice things about Gingerbread is you can default to frequently used apps and never see the bloatware.
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Thanks for the replies
It is possible, of course, to root the phone and not install another ROM, correct? To just leave the OS as it is, and use something like Titanium Backup to delete stuff from there?
daniel178 said:
Thanks for the replies
It is possible, of course, to root the phone and not install another ROM, correct? To just leave the OS as it is, and use something like Titanium Backup to delete stuff from there?
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ROM does not necessarily mean custom. There are stock ROMs pulled from the updates/leaks that are not modified by anyone. Using one of those would be what you want.
But is it possible not to install/flash anything after rooting? Just leave it as it is?
Use revolutionary method and you can stick with stock rom and be rooted. It'll replace your hboot with a custom one with s-off, then flash clockwork for custom recovery, then install superuser via recovery. Your rom will be complete stock with root then.
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revolutionary method?
http://revolutionary.io/
Don't use the one click methods, use the adb method or revolutionary method. Adb method will delete your data, revolutionary will let you keep your data, but it takes extra steps to revert to the stock bootloader.
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well theres a lot of old info out there, having a hard time sorting some of this stuff out!
I have a stock Eris that came from Verizon with 2.1 on it already. I'd like to root it, but does that mean I have to install a custom ROM? or is there a way to get root with the ROM thats already on the phone? Sorry noob questions I know but I've read over the adb command stuff and it sound easy, but I'd like some clarification on what each command does and what each file is for, etc...I have the sdk set up already on my computer. I hear stuff about bootloader versions, radio versions and stuff too, does this stuff get modified as well during this process? and if so, is there a way to revert to 100% stock if I have to send it in for warranty or insurance? keep in mind this phone already had 2.1 from verizon, if that matters.
You can root your phone using jcase's 1 click root app from the market all you have to do is run the app, reboot into recovery by holding power and volume up or down(mine ia volume up my roomates is volume down) and flash the rootme.zip file the app places on your sd card. Doing this will root your current os and you will not lose any data. At that point you can wipe and flash a custom rom instead of the rootme.zip by having one downloaded and already on your sd card. Make sure its not in a folder. If you want to do things like overclocking you will need a custom rom as the stock kernel does not support it. You can also just flash a new kernel its the same as flashing a rom. Anyway check out jcase one click root thread in the eris development section for more detailed instructions and on youtube lostelement has some great videos showing how to root the eris and flash a rom step by step. Hope this helps.
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can you still root this eris using the command terminal? or do I have to do the 1-click method? and as far as returning the phone to 100% stock, is there a RUU program that will restore everything to stock? I've seen some threads but it seems like many of the download links are getting broken for some reason?
EDIT: also, jcase's 1-click method installs Amon's recovery correct? and this file..."rootme.zip" is this like a "patch" that is applied to the current OS to provide root, whereas flashing a new custom rom will delete and replace everything but this custom rom has been writtn to provide root access already? sorry so many questions, just trying to get a handle on this before I try it and do something stupid/expensive haha
Yes there are ruu's to go back to stock. I believe you can still use the terminal but one click root is easier and it does give you amon ra recovery. Flashing rootme.zip will root your stock os and give you superuser permissions app which allows you to manage what apps are granted root access.
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And customs roms are all ready to for root. If your flashing a custom rom you don't need to flash rootme.zip.
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Does flashing custom roms change the hboot version or the radio version? Also for some reason when I do the vol-up+end when I power on it shows a screen with a red triangle with an exclamation point, is this normal until I flash the new recovery image?
Yea that's normal until you flash a new recovery and the roms don't affect the radio or hboot. They must be flashed separately. Be very careful flashing a radio. A bad radio flash is the easiest way to brick your phone.
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probably wont touch the radio or hboot, not many ppl seem to need to. as far as the RUU goes, it will re-flash the recovery and the rom back to the same as they were out-of-box correct? wondering if anybody has a link to this file, all links i've found are broken
I haven't had to use it but from what I understand its an executable file that you run on your pc while your phone is plugged in via usb. If you need it im sure someone would be able to post a fresh link or email it to you.
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thx steve for all your help so far If anybody has a link to the RUU for the official original 2.1 eris, email it to me or link in this thread, also wondering if theres a link to the official 2.1 ROM (the non-root version and not the leak versions, the "official" OTA is what I mean.) In case something bad happens with a ROM I install that i have the original to flash, thay way I can keep Amon's recovery on the phone instead of using the RUU, personally having a hard time finding it. seems liek all the stock roms are labeled PB00IMG?
After you root, in amonra you can do a nandroid backup, which will completely back up everything on your phone to your sd card. If you don't like a rom or are having problems you can just recover your backup and your phone will be as it was when you made the backup. I keep nandroids of a few different roms and just switch between them sometimes.
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So is there any advantage at all to being rooted on the stock rom? That's where I am now. I will probably stay there for a while until I decide what ROM I want to try. I installed an overclocking widget from the marketplace just to try it out, but from the sounds of this thread, its a waste of time with the stock rom.
Rooted on a stock Rom sucks. Battery life compared to a froyo based Rom is exponentially better imo. Nonsensikal vanilla v7 was the Rom of choice but I'm back to stock because I have to send the phone back to VZW
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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It's really not that difficult one click Eris root run rootme.zip download and extract the Rom of your choice. Run amon ras recovery nandroid backup wipe flash new Rom and voila. Easy as pie.
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I did the one click Eris root already, and just applied the rootme.zip. So installing a new rom would mean copying it to the root of the SD card, rebooting and holding down the volume key and then picking that new zip file, correct? I don't know what that amon ras recovery thingy is. Is that part of rom installation, or something that I need to acquire separately?
You need to copy the Rom to your SD card and use estrongs file explorer download from market and long press on the .zip file it will pull up a menu that gives you some options. Extract from the .zip file and hit ok no new path is needed. Now that yuu have the file on your SD card reboot and go to recovery nandroid backup then wipe then flash from zip. After it unpacked and loads then it will prompt you to reboot hit okay and let it do its thing. I'm going to end all this with saying double check the forums for how tos and I'm not responsible for a bricked phone do this at your own risk but have fun itsreally not that difficult
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I'm not responsible for a bricked phone
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Yep, I realize that. You know that you don't actually have to answer my questions right? If I ask more noob questions, know that I am not expecting you personally to answer them.
I'm at work and all of my equipment I maintain is working so I'm killing sometime
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I am ready to root my Eris planning to use the one click app.do I need to back up my current stock system,and if so how? Thanks in advance.
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antshan4 said:
I am ready to root my Eris planning to use the one click app.do I need to back up my current stock system,and if so how? Thanks in advance.
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The one-click root process only replaces the custom recovery, and from there you can immediately make what is called a "Nandroid" backup. That will make a complete backup of the regular OS & user data on the phone. You do this step immediately - the first time you use the Amon_RA recovery.
Without root, there is no way to back up your phone completely; you need root privileges to do that.
That means that if in the future you wanted to "return to stock behavior", you could simply restore your first Nandroid backup. The phone will work exactly as a stock phone, but of course will not be a "pure" stock phone because it will still have a custom recovery on it.
If you decide to return to 100% stock you can use the "FlashBack15 v1" ROM, available here on XDA.
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Ok, rooted and flashed the Onlyone goldie rom. I love it so far, but it seems as if I have lost root! How do I regain? Also, I do not have a PC and finally, my former apps are not being downloaded to my phone. A little help?
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How do I get my apps?
How do I regain root? (PS I backed up my former (rooted) GB rom on CWM recovery, if i return to it will I have root again?)
Thanks in advance!
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Ok, rooted and flashed the Onlyone goldie rom. I love it so far, but it seems as if I have lost root! How do I regain? Also, I do not have a PC and finally, my former apps are not being downloaded to my phone. A little help?
To Summarize:
How do I get my apps?
How do I regain root? (PS I backed up my former (rooted) GB rom on CWM recovery, if i return to it will I have root again?)
Thanks in advance!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1581185
1) Since you flashed this rom you must have CWM....so I would try this, dl this and put on your intern sd and flash you would a ROM...but no wipes, I did this when, running stock to get root, works great.
2) Are your apps root dependent ...if so that is prob why ...but you may need to clear out the gplay thru the app manager...then try dl your apps again.
hope it helps
Ceasare said:
Ok, rooted and flashed the Onlyone goldie rom. I love it so far, but it seems as if I have lost root! How do I regain? Also, I do not have a PC and finally, my former apps are not being downloaded to my phone. A little help?
To Summarize:
How do I get my apps?
How do I regain root? (PS I backed up my former (rooted) GB rom on CWM recovery, if i return to it will I have root again?)
Thanks in advance!
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what makes you think you lost root?
Is the SU app in your app tray?
Only some AOSP ROMS, like CM9, will restore your apps automatically..otherwise, you have to either restore them manually, through the market, or back them up, with a back up program like titanium backup, and restore them through there..
Used cwm and all was fixed! Thanks!!!!!
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I ran root check. It failed. Ran the from again, via Cwm all is well. Thanks so much!
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I've asked for help in the threads posted about the OTA update and I cannot get the help I need. I've seen people post similar questions that I have and they are largely ignored. I had to stay away from the forums because I was getting so damn angry.
I have root and I have S-Off. I have not flashed any ROMs on this phone. I want to apply the OTA update but I do not know how to do that.
There's mentions of flashing firmware, radios, PRIs, PRLs, ROMs, Deoxed, Oxeded, hboot, bootloader, recovery, TWRP, etc. All of that across multiple threads does not compute well in my head.
I've read a lot and I am not sure what to do. Can someone please help me out? I will be forever grateful. I could send you a case for your phone for helping me. I promise I am not being lazy. I'm just not getting it.
If you're rooted and you have S-Off, you should have TWRP. First verify that by booting into the bootloader (Power + Vol Down) and going to Recovery.
Once in TWRP, do a backup. Backup everything. This way if something goes wrong you can restore your previous ROM.
Next download this: http://d-h.st/d2a
It's the firmware zip, courtesy of Haus. Rename the file to remove all of the stuff after PJ85IMG. Then put it on the root of your SD card and boot into the bootloader. It will scan for a zip and find it, and ask you if you want to update. This step is optional; you can flash new 1.22 ROMs without the new firmware.
After flashing that through bootloader, you can choose a 1.22 ROM that looks good to you, and download it. Boot back into TWRP, do a factory reset and wipe System, and then install the ROM. If you download it to your external SD card (in other words, an SD card you put in yourself), you'll have to mount it by going to Mounts and choosing external SD. That way you'll be able to access files on it.
To install the ROM after wiping, just hit Install from the main menu of TWRP and navigate to the location of the ROM zip you downloaded. Install it and reboot, and there you have it, you're on the new firmware and using a ROM with the new fixes in it!
The firmware zip is optional, but recommended. If you aren't comfortable flashing it, don't bother.
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If you're rooted and you have S-Off, you should have TWRP. First verify that by booting into the bootloader (Power + Vol Down) and going to Recovery.
Once in TWRP, do a backup. Backup everything. This way if something goes wrong you can restore your previous ROM.
Next download this: http://d-h.st/d2a
It's the firmware zip, courtesy of Haus. Rename the file to remove all of the stuff after PJ85IMG. Then put it on the root of your SD card and boot into the bootloader. It will scan for a zip and find it, and ask you if you want to update. This step is optional; you can flash new 1.22 ROMs without the new firmware.
After flashing that through bootloader, you can choose a 1.22 ROM that looks good to you, and download it. Boot back into TWRP, do a factory reset and wipe System, and then install the ROM. If you download it to your external SD card (in other words, an SD card you put in yourself), you'll have to mount it by going to Mounts and choosing external SD. That way you'll be able to access files on it.
To install the ROM after wiping, just hit Install from the main menu of TWRP and navigate to the location of the ROM zip you downloaded. Install it and reboot, and there you have it, you're on the new firmware and using a ROM with the new fixes in it!
The firmware zip is optional, but recommended. If you aren't comfortable flashing it, don't bother.
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Thank you Sora! I am going to follow your advice this afternoon and will let you know how it goes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1770501
This way will not cause you to lose any data, and installs the update on top of what you already have. Still recommend a backup in TWRP first, though
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1770501
This way will not cause you to lose any data, and installs the update on top of what you already have. Still recommend a backup in TWRP first, though
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I would personally recommend staying away from that method. As a rooted user you should never accept an ota. Doing it that way might work this time, but in the future there's no guarantee you won't lose s-off and never be able to get it again
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I would personally recommend staying away from that method. As a rooted user you should never accept an ota. Doing it that way might work this time, but in the future there's no guarantee you won't lose s-off and never be able to get it again
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I know "never OTA" is your and some other people's mantra, but being able to do this is one of the benefits of S-off. I agree it is possible they could turn you back to S-ON in a future OTA (maybe...), but since it works for this current update, I don't think you should be dissuaded if you don't want to completely wipe your phone.
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I know "never OTA" is your and some other people's mantra, but being able to do this is one of the benefits of S-off. I agree it is possible they could turn you back to S-ON in a future OTA (maybe...), but since it works for this current update, I don't think you should be dissuaded if you don't want to completely wipe your phone.
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It's a bad habit to start, and all he has to do my way is flash a ROM..
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It's a bad habit to start, and all he has to do my way is flash a ROM..
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My man.
Exactly.
Just look at all of the people who show up on here going "Oh crap I took the OTA and now I can't get S-OFF"! The fact of the matter is, people don't check here before taking the OTA. If they look here and see that thread that says to just put on teh stock recovery and you're A-OK, thats what they'll do from then on.
When it happens, I'm just going to sit back and say "toldya so"... and let everyone else deal with the support. Until then, I'm going to keep preaching that you should never take an OTA if you are rooted or EVER thinking about rooting.
Sora, I looked at your instructions. I flashed ROMs before on my EVO 4G. That process I was comfortable with. Basically, the developer did all the work for me. I wanted to keep my phone stock for a while but I do want the updates.
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Sora, I looked at your instructions. I flashed ROMs before on my EVO 4G. That process I was comfortable with. Basically, the developer did all the work for me. I wanted to keep my phone stock for a while but I do want the updates.
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It really comes down to this, if you're still having problems:
If you have recovery, just flash a ROM with the new base. Just like you'd do on your old Evo.
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It really comes down to this, if you're still having problems:
If you have recovery, just flash a ROM with the new base. Just like you'd do on your old Evo.
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Ok, so I will have to flash a ROM. Do you think I can flash the deodexed version of this [ROM][STOCK] --- Stock Rooted 1.22.651.3 Odexed & DeOdexed (7/14/12)--- over my stock-from-Sprint setup?
I flashed TWRP. I'm going to update the firmware next with the file you pointed me to. I'm trying to find the info on clearing Google wallet.
...then the ROM.
Clearing GW data should say something about resetting it. It'll be in the app settings.
Seems like you've got it down now, I'm glad to say. You'll be able to flash that ROM without any issues.
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Clearing GW data should say something about resetting it. It'll be in the app settings.
Seems like you've got it down now, I'm glad to say. You'll be able to flash that ROM without any issues.
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Sora, how do you flash your ROMs? Do you use TWRP? or something like Goo Manager? I haven't used Goo Manager before, but I see it flashes ROMs.
I'm pretty sure it's not possible but is there any way I can back up all of my data, settings, apps, homescreens, etc while still unrooted and s-on? I've just put hundreds of hours getting everything just right and I don't want to lose it all. I know how to backup the basics but what's the most I can do? My phone is acting up and I thing I need to do a factory reset and/or get a new phone. Thanks for your time.
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Not really possible but you can try my backup. It's in the market. It might save some of your data
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Morpheus991 said:
I'm pretty sure it's not possible but is there any way I can back up all of my data, settings, apps, homescreens, etc while still unrooted and s-on? I've just put hundreds of hours getting everything just right and I don't want to lose it all. I know how to backup the basics but what's the most I can do? My phone is acting up and I thing I need to do a factory reset and/or get a new phone. Thanks for your time.
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Here's another vote for My Backup Pro: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro
Since you're not rooted, I'm not sure how much of your data it can backup / restore, but I think it can backup app data without root... I could be wrong. Nevertheless, it's a great backup app. Worth the price, but there are free versions as well.
However, I don't believe root is required in order to do a "nand" backup. What you need to do is:
Unlock your bootloader, per HTC.
Flash a custom recovery, like AR Recovery 3.15
You can follow steps 1 and 2 of Scotty's instructions here: http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...ys-noob-friendly-root-guide-start-finish.html
The caveat is that unlocking wipes your device, so... I don't know how you would get a nand backup of your device as it is right now. However, moving forward, you would be able to create nand backups, and you would not have to be rooted.
At the same time, once you unlock your bootloader and flash AR Recovery, it's incredibly simple to flash superSU and achieve root. So why not, if you're going through the trouble of unlocking so you can create a nand backup? Just sayin'...
Understand, too, that the two steps above are reversible. You can flash the stock recovery back, and you can re-lock your bootloader. If you're concerned about your warranty...
If you don't wish to go through any of these steps, then I believe My Backup Pro is going to be your best option. Some people also use Titanium Backup, but I don't find that app to be nearly as user friendly.
Thanks for the input...I've got some decisions to make.
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You can do an ADB backup and get all apps and data without ANY mods. My lady has the rezound and is very disappointed with the ics ota update so I pulled all the data before I unlock. Its a new feature with the ics system. Just be sure to set a backup password in the developers section of the settings.
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