[Q] HD2 with 32Gb card & battery drainage - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Does a 32gb card drain more power than say an 8gb or even less than a 4gb maybe? I've got 32 on board and my battery lasts about 6/7 hours with minimal usage. When I goto bed it's on 100% but I wake up 7 hours later I've lost anywhere between 10-15%...this is with no data connections; no running apps (all closed via taskmgr); nothing 'on' at all. I can lose upto 10% by just sending and receiving a couple of sms, an hour!
Having read through other xda threads on battery drainage I wonder if I've installed some 'background running apps' onto SD card instead of onto phone, thus making the phone want to 'read' the card all the time and use more battery? So I'm thinking that I need to be more selective and put some on the phone instead right? I also had 17gb of music, movies etc etc so could WMP or the sense version be trying to (idk?) update their library maybe and it's reading the card that way???
Rather than try and remove the offending app(s)....I've let the battery run down to 15%; hard reset (re-sync'd all wifi/email etc on reboot); formatted card (twice via PC); sync'd with PC for contacts and calendar only; and now have phone switched off whilst charging from wall (and not PC as I normally do). I'm gonna wait for full charge before I start over from scratch.
So should I have bought 4*8Gb or even 8*4Gb cards instead? Maybe there is an reg tweak/app for manually turning on/off access to card? Is there a general rule for which apps go onto card and which onto phone? Any advice/links/general comments/tips etc would be appreciated.
TIA,
Pete
PS - I've only had my phone for 4 weeks so be gentle with me with your replies yeah

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Remove memory card whilst phone on

Have already searched for this but did not find one, so any keyboard-happy vets keep the bashing at bay please
Q. Is it safe to remove the memory card whilst the phon is on e.g. previous phone (symbian N95) had a 'safely remove memory card' option so that the card could be removed whilst the phone was on?
So basically is 'hot-swapping' alright/good for the phone?
Cannot find this exactly but the HD2 owners manual says to insert the card before powering on, so I would guess that the inverse would be true as well. To have the phone powered off before removing it ...
All I got ....
wellllllllll, you probably shouldn't, but i have done several times with no ill effects. (mind you, i never use the 'safely remove hardware' on the pc to remove usb devices either, , maybe im not the best for advice, after all, hehe)
You may find that if something tries to write to the card whilst it is out of the phone, the system will make a folder called 'storage card' and call your card 'storage card2' when you reinsert it, which of course messes with your settings and apps. If that does happen you just rename the storage card folder to something else (it wont let you delete it till after the next steps), then restart the phone and it will put storage card2 back to normal.
I suppose there is no 'official' and 'safe' way of going about 'hot-swapping' ?
Yank said card put in another card. I have done it will all my phones with no issue.
Just did it a few hours ago with the power on. No issues..yet..
it really doesnt matter. the option in ur old nokia was comparable to the thing, windows has for usb sticks and such.
i dont think u click each time on the "safe remove" button when u remove ur usb stick from the pc?^^
well, im always removin my sd card without powering down^^ no problems here
i just ried it while surfing away on some apps....didn't cause a problem...but prob not advisable...just in case ;-)
Matt
I have never shut off the phone to change card..
Has been working great since HTC Wizard...
I guess it is OK to do so, however, if your send tabs are associated with storage card (such as reader, weather tab - else than original etc.) it may cause some problem. Nothing which can't be solved though.
no problem at all. I do it all the time my SD works like a charm, no need to switch your phone off. It's just a waiste of time. I always make a copy of my SD just in case, but never had problems in any way. Just my 2 cents
...I also have no issues with that
same here too. however, i always ensure that nothing is running from my sd card before removal. i go to task manager to end all task and process that is running off my sd card.

[HARDWARE PROBLEM] Random Shutdowns!

Software specifications in my signiture for ur reference! however i dont think it is quite related to ROM/kernel/scripts etc...
My phone is about 1 year old, and as well as its accessories except sd card which is bought 2 months ago.
also, i am very sure that the combination of mik6.6.1 and francos 1.1 newest, would NOT cause this problem. also, i am very sure that i installed them carefully and correctly from recovery
Recently, my phone is experiencing random shutdowns at random moments. (keyboard using / web browsing / music playing as the most often)
screen blackens suddenly (with a few electric beams at the top of the screen) and is shut down.
if external power is unplugged, it can be normally and stably powered up using power button.
if external power is plugged, phone will normally and stably power up by itself since receiving external power.
after power on, everything is stable and normal even the shutdown occured during apps download/update from android market.
note: there is NO SIGNS of kernel panics and i am sure it is not.
information from own knowledge and internet
Phones from different manufacturers (including LG, Samsung, HTC) is possible to face this problem and it is mostly not related to software. (ROM, kernel, etc)
It is possibly related to:
- internal hardware of the phone
- phone battery
- external SD card itself
- SD card reader of the phone
on oct 1 i plugged my SD card to windows and ran a "partition repair", windows kind of repaired my card and it was all normal.
however today justnow it happened again and i can say that i would firstly ignore the possibility that my card is the cause of the problem. it is pretty new, too.
4/10/2011
problem re-occured
boot time: ~3 hours
network usage: HSDPA
doing: market browsing
recent system related activity:
fix_permissions
recent user app activity:
updated camera360 ultimate v2.5.5
now i hv 3 questions to ask:
1) for the purpose of using darktremor stably, 05mountsd in /system/etc/init.d is removed. is this any related?
2) for the other 3 hardware possibilities, which one do u think is the most possible to happen?
the battery ITSELF? (i am abit suspecting this as my battery deplets faster than those reported times in kernel thread, eg they got 70% left when normal 10 hrs usage with 3g on while i got only 20% left of the same situation)
or would there be any problems on those wires connecting the battery?
3) is this mostly happen when sd card is "suddenly physically unmounted"? any experiences? so should i repartition my sd card? (takes a long time )
please as my school work is very busy i dont have enough time to try everything possible
if you have experienced any similar things before please tell me or please help me if you got any idea!!! thank you!!
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I've had my phone for only about a month, and this problem started for me about four days ago. There are older threads about this issue, but I couldn't find an answer as to what is causing the problem. The only major change that I made around the time that this started is that I began using S2E (for apps and dalvik cache). Previously, I had not been using any method of apps2sd beyond what is possible in CM7. Could the problem be connected to that?
I have exactly the same problem.
But with me, all the buttons flicker the times and sometime the display shows weird text..
Anyway,i am using miks 6.5.7 with goldenleaf franco 19.4 v18a gbs cfs
I thought it was not on Francos..
I think I am going to install a catlog to see what is happening. My problem appeared first after flashing dt on mik I think. But have fully whiped, reflashed and etc.
If you have a solution, please tell
Greets
mDroid
ROM: void #forever
Kernel: franco gbs cfs
Miasmic said:
Software specifications in my signiture for ur reference! however i dont think it is quite related to ROM/kernel/scripts etc...
My phone is about 1 year old, and as well as its accessories except sd card which is bought 2 months ago.
also, i am very sure that the combination of mik6.6.1 and francos 1.1 newest, would NOT cause this problem. also, i am very sure that i installed them carefully and correctly from recovery
Recently, my phone is experiencing random shutdowns at random moments. (keyboard using / web browsing / music playing as the most often)
screen blackens suddenly (with a few electric beams at the top of the screen) and is shut down.
if external power is unplugged, it can be normally and stably powered up using power button.
if external power is plugged, phone will normally and stably power up by itself since receiving external power.
after power on, everything is stable and normal even the shutdown occured during apps download/update from android market.
note: there is NO SIGNS of kernel panics and i am sure it is not.
information from own knowledge and internet
Phones from different manufacturers (including LG, Samsung, HTC) is possible to face this problem and it is mostly not related to software. (ROM, kernel, etc)
It is possibly related to:
- internal hardware of the phone
- phone battery
- external SD card itself
- SD card reader of the phone
on oct 1 i plugged my SD card to windows and ran a "partition repair", windows kind of repaired my card and it was all normal.
however today justnow it happened again and i can say that i would firstly ignore the possibility that my card is the cause of the problem. it is pretty new, too.
4/10/2011
problem re-occured
boot time: ~3 hours
network usage: HSDPA
doing: market browsing
recent system related activity:
fix_permissions
recent user app activity:
updated camera360 ultimate v2.5.5
now i hv 3 questions to ask:
1) for the purpose of using darktremor stably, 05mountsd in /system/etc/init.d is removed. is this any related?
2) for the other 3 hardware possibilities, which one do u think is the most possible to happen?
the battery ITSELF? (i am abit suspecting this as my battery deplets faster than those reported times in kernel thread, eg they got 70% left when normal 10 hrs usage with 3g on while i got only 20% left of the same situation)
or would there be any problems on those wires connecting the battery?
3) is this mostly happen when sd card is "suddenly physically unmounted"? any experiences? so should i repartition my sd card? (takes a long time )
please as my school work is very busy i dont have enough time to try everything possible
if you have experienced any similar things before please tell me or please help me if you got any idea!!! thank you!!
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App
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hopefully you are using moderate cpu settings and yes darktremor does causes issues like sd card not mounting,phone hanging sometimes and rebooting.
so the ultimate solution use s2e and check ur overclock settings.
if not, than do a clean install and use s2e for cm7 rom which works wonders,remember s2e only works with cm7 rom
I'm using S2E, and this has nothing to do with overclocking. This is happening when the phone is in standby, at any clock speed.

[Q] Stopping media scanner causing sd card to unmount?

Hey guys,
I am on Omega v34 and I have a problem with media scanner draining my battery life. Overnight I would lose 60% of my battery life and BBS has pointed it to media scanner wakelocks.
I have tried the rescan media root app from play store, it worked like a charm for the first few days with no problem at all and battery life was improved substantially. However since yesterday whenever I unlock the phone I will get a notification saying that 'SD card was removed unexpectedly' and it will mount the sd card immediately. It does not seems to affect anything, other than waking up the phone now takes a couple of seconds instead of immediate. However I would still like to find a way to fix this problem.
It definitely has something to do with disabling the media scanner, because after I re-enabled it the sd card is working properly and I did not get the sd card removed notification. As soon as i disabled the scanner, i get the notification again.
I am using Sandisk 32gb class 10, on the disk I have photos from the phone camera, some videos and a folder for titanium backup files.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Sounds like what I have, apart from I have more on my memory card, Sandisk 32gb Class 6. I formatted the card and for a few hours it was fine then it started unmounting and re scanning which drains battery and wakes the phone. Alot of people are having this or similar problems with memory crads so it looks like a samsung fault :/
I had three different memory cards and had the same issues with each of them. I've tried everything - different roms, kernels, customs, stocks - same results. Sometimes started just after I've put the card in, sometimes after couple days. 'SD card removed unexpectedly', 'Preparing SD Card' and finally 'Damaged SD Card, try to format it'. After couple of weeks I gave up, cleaned everything and sent it to my provider for warranty fix (with other issue - details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2035618).
Phone returned as 'fixed' but nothing changed, card issue was still the same.
On Monday I'll send it again with the same faults. I'll keep you guys update, maybe it helps someone.

Z5 Compact - Slow USB file access on Windows 10

On two different Windows 10 computers at home, I've had a bit of struggle trying to access the storage on my Z5C (running Nougat .376 UK firmware). I was trying to copy over some new music to the 200GB Sandisk microSD card, but Windows would continually hang and eventually give up even on just browsing folders. I could unplug the phone and try again but with no success. I popped out the microSD card and put it in an adapter and there wasn't any issue copying files over.
Anyone else ever notice Windows having difficulties accessing files on the phone? For what it's worth, I've almost always done firmware updates via Xperia Companion over USB without any problems, so it seems to be specifically related to file transfer/browsing.
doclloyd said:
On two different Windows 10 computers at home, I've had a bit of struggle trying to access the storage on my Z5C (running Nougat .376 UK firmware). I was trying to copy over some new music to the 200GB Sandisk microSD card, but Windows would continually hang and eventually give up even on just browsing folders. I could unplug the phone and try again but with no success. I popped out the microSD card and put it in an adapter and there wasn't any issue copying files over.
Anyone else ever notice Windows having difficulties accessing files on the phone? For what it's worth, I've almost always done firmware updates via Xperia Companion over USB without any problems, so it seems to be specifically related to file transfer/browsing.
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make sure the screen doesn't turn off, enable developer options and check do not turn off display on charge
(i feel like MTP gets capped out at 20MB/s or something....from external SD --> internal bus rate??) for really really big transfers 8GB+, I usually remove my SD and use the SD reader, it should be OK if you have a good USB reader that can read the full speed of your card.
Sounds like a new USB cord is needed.
NeoBeum this is not really required to transfer files
*make sure the screen doesn't turn off, enable developer options and check do not turn off display on charge*
genuine?
try sd insight from play store see if ur sdcard is genuine
To all:
Is there a reason why not allowing the screen to sleep would help with file transfer speed back to a PC?
I've tried a couple different USB cables with similar results.
Card is genuine and as mentioned it transfers at full speed when using a SD card adapter and plugging in directly to the PC.
Tingles said:
Sounds like a new USB cord is needed.
NeoBeum this is not really required to transfer files
*make sure the screen doesn't turn off, enable developer options and check do not turn off display on charge*
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& @doclloyd
not really, no (don't really need to enable always on screen), but if some users have problems, i just recommend to do that so they can walk away from the tx, and come back without the screen turning off
the z5c has a tendency to temporarily turn off MTP when the display sleeps, you'll be able to tell, because the files on the PC - will contain 0 data, but still appear in the destination
at the moment i'm looking at MTP Host and the other USB services on the phone to see if it will behave better with battery optimisation disabled
edit: if the phone locks @ sleep, it will disable MTP, I have never successfully transferred while my phone locks itself, smartlock can be another workaround for this, unlock with PC
NeoBeum said:
& @doclloyd
not really, no (don't really need to enable always on screen), but if some users have problems, i just recommend to do that so they can walk away from the tx, and come back without the screen turning off
the z5c has a tendency to temporarily turn off MTP when the display sleeps, you'll be able to tell, because the files on the PC - will contain 0 data, but still appear in the destination
at the moment i'm looking at MTP Host and the other USB services on the phone to see if it will behave better with battery optimisation disabled
edit: if the phone locks @ sleep, it will disable MTP, I have never successfully transferred while my phone locks itself, smartlock can be another workaround for this, unlock with PC
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Thanks for the reply. I'll give it a try next time I need to copy files over to the phone (usually new music) and see what happens.

Can't get info off Alcatel Streak w/SD formatted as internal storage

Okay, urgency low, but curiosity high. I have an Alcatel Streak - please don't laugh, it was free - and I decided to try formatting the SD card as internal storage. Kind of an experiment to see how it would work. Played with it for a few months then left the country for a year & a half. Getting ready to return, so got out my Streak (which is still locked to Cricket, cheap & fast & easy) and ran into a memory problem. I should mention that it always seemed to have a problem shutting off. You could shut it off but come back a few days later and discover it was back on and your battery was almost dead. Probably not related but who knows.
Anyway, so it said it couldn't update because my memory was full. It took me to the app page. Oh well, so I uninstalled about 1.8 Gigs of apps, but the available storage never increased and the message kept coming on. Okay, so maybe a fresh start. I'll just take off all my stuff (not much) off and transfer it to my hard drive. I plugged it in but it never showed up in explorer. Not in Windows or Linux. Tried updating drivers, etc, but no luck. No problem, I'll just take the SD card out & plug it into my PC directly. But neither Windows nor Linux could see anything on the card, a result of formating it for internal storage from what I've read. Hmmm, okay, I'll use Bluetooth. Great, connected to one of my other phones no problem. Sent files and ... nothing. Couldn't send or receive anything via Bluetooth. Okay, try it with the computer. Still no luck, Windows or Linux. Okay let's try this WiFi Direct thing .... yeah you guessed it, nothing. Alright, I know, I'll share them to Google Drive! Ha! But the joke was on me. After only a few hundred megabytes transfered, an error. Phone storage is full, please clear out some space. Now Settings won't do anything but take me to that message. So... we need phone storage just to upload to Google Drive? Okay, maybe it stores everything in a temp folder first. A temp folder smartly located only in system storage which cannot be moved to SD or internal storage.
So, any ideas as to how to get any info off that phone? Nothing major so if it can't be done I'll live, but I'm very curious as to why nothing wants to come off that phone. Weird. I am out of ideas here.... Thanks for reading and any help you can provide.
PS. To clarify, on plugging it into the computer, usually my phones display a message, I can tap the notification and choose charging, transfer files, sync pictures, internet access, whatever. But that option never appears on the Alcatel Streak phone, it just charges. The cable and USB ports work fine as all other phones show up. If there are any other things I need to clarify, please just let me know, thanks!!

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