will i still get speed boost if i root my phone and running the official JI6 rom?
I've seen a lot of good roms in there but i still want to stick to JI6 a little longer and wait till the froyo comes in and that's the time maybe i'll flash a custom rom.
Rooting by itself wont make any difference. Installing Juice Defender might, keeping in 2G unless you really need 3G for something will help. Using a black background will help some. Not using apps that pull data every 30 seconds and changing it to 15 minutes will help a lot.
i'm sorry, i think you're talking about the battery performance of the phone. what i'm talking about is the overall performance of the phone, so you're saying that if i rooted my phone it won't make any difference in the speed of the phone?
Rooting makes NO difference to ANYTHING on your phone. The only difference it makes is it allows applications which require root to WORK (otherwise they will not work). Other than that, it allows you to flash different roms and mods on the phone. It does NO changes to the phone itself as far as performance goes.
Furthermore, most of the custom roms out now are BASED on the OTA JI6 official ROM with optimizations, tweaks, and mods to:
a. improve performance and speed of the phone
b. improve responsiveness
c. increase battery life
d. offer support for themes and mods to allow you to customize it to how YOU want it to look and behave.
All of the custom roms WILL improve the speed of the phone. If you install a lagfix (voodoo, ext2-based, or another one), it will at the very least triple or quadriple the responsiveness you get from the menus and loading. Combine that with a custom ROM and your Vibrant will be FLYING fast.
JUST make sure you follow ALL instructions for installations to be safe.
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Rooting makes NO difference to ANYTHING on your phone. The only difference it makes is it allows applications which require root to WORK (otherwise they will not work). Other than that, it allows you to flash different roms and mods on the phone. It does NO changes to the phone itself as far as performance goes.
Furthermore, most of the custom roms out now are BASED on the OTA JI6 official ROM with optimizations, tweaks, and mods to:
a. improve performance and speed of the phone
b. improve responsiveness
c. increase battery life
d. offer support for themes and mods to allow you to customize it to how YOU want it to look and behave.
All of the custom roms WILL improve the speed of the phone. If you install a lagfix (voodoo, ext2-based, or another one), it will at the very least triple or quadriple the responsiveness you get from the menus and loading. Combine that with a custom ROM and your Vibrant will be FLYING fast.
JUST make sure you follow ALL instructions for installations to be safe.
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Honestly.... lagfix doesn't seem to speed anything up for me (Voodoo or Ryan). It improves the Quadrant score... that's about it as far as I can tell. Some people swear by them. The biggest speed improvement is to make sure not to have battery-hogging apps, not lots of widgets on the homescreen, and use Zeam launcher. The hassle of having to remove Voodoo each and every time you want to flash, or having bugs that come along with the ext2 lagfixes to me just don't seem worth it.
At the end of the day, if I start to think the Vibrant isn't fast... I just borrow my old MT3G from the roommate and use it. For about 10 seconds. Then I throw it back at him.
Thanks for explaining these things to me, I have searched the uses of rooting and it says that there's speed boost. I thought that rooting alone will speed the performance of the phone.
I guess I will not root my phone(not yet for now) cause I'll be waiting for froyo first.
iynfynity said:
Thanks for explaining these things to me, I have searched the uses of rooting and it says that there's speed boost. I thought that rooting alone will speed the performance of the phone.
I guess I will not root my phone(not yet for now) cause I'll be waiting for froyo first.
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If you want speed, then install one of the custom roms. If you want to take full control on your phone, then root the phone.
My 2 cents, the devs in this forum will have a full stable working 2.2 for Vibrant before Tmobile.
chichu_9 said:
If you want speed, then install one of the custom roms. If you want to take full control on your phone, then root the phone.
My 2 cents, the devs in this forum will have a full stable working 2.2 for Vibrant before Tmobile.
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Yeah i know that now, but i'll wait for froyo first before i go with custom roms.
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Hello everyone! I just got my 16gb wifi model a few days ago. I'm from Canada. I think it's a very nice device, I love it, but have a few questions. First I noticed that the device seems to be a little laggy sometimes, specifically when you switch apps, or when in the browser or using the keyboard? Is there any way to make this better?
I have taken the habit of using the task manager to close unused apps, is this a good thing to do? I have the feeling that mine came with stuff that I don't really need/want. For exemple, There is a ^ in the bottom bar that I always tend to open by accident, this bar open another row of icon. Also there is a screenshot icon on the bar. Is this something to do with the TouchWiz? How much clog/more memory is the touch wiz using? Maybe without it I could gain some speed. I have removed all the widgets to make things better and I use a simple wallpaper.
I'm not into flashing for now, I'm not mentally ready, is there anything else I can do to improve speed and responsiveness?
Also, I have a blackberry and I am used to receive instant notifications for facebook. Is there an equivalent app for facebook for the tab?
Thanks.
First things first, Id root it. Its VERY easy. If you have issues with the Mass storage device not being seen my the PC, make sure usb debugging is off. Also, after you root it throw on Pershoots TW UX version of his kernel.
Then download set cpu and OC it to 1400. And if you want to put on a rom, put on task650s rom.
after that all lag is pretty much gone.
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First things first, Id root it. Its VERY easy. If you have issues with the Mass storage device not being seen my the PC, make sure usb debugging is off. Also, after you root it throw on Pershoots TW UX version of his kernel.
Then download set cpu and OC it to 1400. And if you want to put on a rom, put on task650s rom.
after that all lag is pretty much gone.
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Do you have a link to the best rooting instructions? Also a link to OC?
Sure most guys will tell you to search, but thats not me. I'll help you out bro, np
1) how to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239185
That is a video with a written tutorial too. That should do ya
2) OC'ing kernel
Pershoot is the one that made it. It also have a nice VooDoo integrated sound matrix ( or whatever ) and it sounds crazy good. To take advantage of it, flash his kernel and then market VooDoo and download that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138167
If you have a touchwiz / WIFI rom/tablet.. Then you need to download the kernel off of his site that has TW / UX in the title of the link.
mroneeyedboh said:
First things first, Id root it. Its VERY easy. If you have issues with the Mass storage device not being seen my the PC, make sure usb debugging is off. Also, after you root it throw on Pershoots TW UX version of his kernel.
Then download set cpu and OC it to 1400. And if you want to put on a rom, put on task650s rom.
after that all lag is pretty much gone.
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I could not agree more with this, I just got done running benchmarks with just Task650's ROM, loading up the newest pershoot kernel now. Even with just the ROM lag is pretty much gone
Yeah Mann benchmarks don't mean much in terms of Android. But it's a good placebo for some
Sent from a miui powered HTC Evo.
Well, i admit that it is tempting to install a rom. I dont understand tho why it is necessary to clear up the slowness problem. Ppl at samsung need to work more to optimise their sh.t
mickey78 said:
Well, i admit that it is tempting to install a rom. I dont understand tho why it is necessary to clear up the slowness problem. Ppl at samsung need to work more to optimise their sh.t
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Im not sure if I know what you mean... what do you mean on you dont understand why its is necessart to clear up the slowness problem? It is because there is soo much bloat and things misplaced. Its kinda crazy. but after you run an optimized ROM and the kernel at 1.4ghz.. its night a day..
Hie guys. I am new to SGT 10.1 and to this forum.
[Nice little introducing video btw].
I just reply to this thread not to open a new one and start asking questions over there
From what you guys discussed above, after rooting the device and OC it, the lags will go away. How much does OC it to 1.4 affect the battery life and heat? I searched and most people posted it doesn't heat up the tablet much. I guess it is the same to you guys?
If I have rooted my tab and OC it to 1.4. Let says something gone wrong with the hardware of my tab and I would like to exchange it, am I able to un-root it and de-clock to 1.0 before I return?
Cheers
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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or1onz said:
From what you guys discussed above, after rooting the device and OC it, the lags will go away. How much does OC it to 1.4 affect the battery life and heat? I searched and most people posted it doesn't heat up the tablet much. I guess it is the same to you guys?
If I have rooted my tab and OC it to 1.4. Let says something gone wrong with the hardware of my tab and I would like to exchange it, am I able to un-root it and de-clock to 1.0 before I return?
Cheers
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The overclock with help with lags. But not all of the lags are based off of speed issues. Some are code related. But in the end, yes it will speed up nicely, and be more fluid.
The heat and battery isn't really an issue. But being that all of the dev'ing going on is all new. Its a wait and see thing. But in all respects, it should be just fine.
And I haven't looked into unrooting, but I'm almost 100% positive that it can be done.
Sent from a miui powered HTC Evo.
I actually have a question about OCing. I flashed the Starburst ROM on my tab, but no custom kernal. Is it still OK to download set CPU and crank it to 1.4ghz? (I've OCed computers 'til they cried, but never phones or tablets )
I'm trying to update my wife's phone to Simply Honey 5.1 coming from Sipmly Galaxy 2.8. Both ROMs use kernels by cmenard, and both kernels include Voodoo.
I have 2 questions about the installation:
1. The Simply Honey install instructions specifically say to use Odin. Is this necessary? I've never used Odin before and I've flashed my own Vibrant about a dozen times without a problem.
2. Since the ROM my wife is coming from has Voodoo enabled, and since Simply Honey 5.1 has Voodoo in the kernel, do I need to disable Voodoo before flashing? I thought that you only need to disable Voodoo if the kernel you're flashing doesn't support it -- is this inaccurate? Or is there some other reason to disable Voodoo before flashing?
Thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for any replies.
The more important question is: Does your wife like having her phone tinkered with?
The Gingerbread ROMs are coming along, but they're not quite stable yet. You might want to stick with Froyo unless your wife is a fan of tinkering and using workarounds for GPS and battery life issues.
As for your questions:
1) When in doubt, follow the creators install instructions to a "T".
2) I've seen quite a few ROMs recommend disabling Voodoo before flashing them, but never seen one say that disabling Voodoo would be harmful to flashing them. So I'd disable it just in case.
You're also going to need to switch to the Gingerbread bootloader if you're going to stick with an i9000 leaked Gingerbread ROM. Messing with the bootloader is the only way I know of to completely kill your phone if you mess it up. Fair warning!
If you want Gingerbread without having to mess with bootloaders, I suggest MIUI or CM7. CM7 just went stable, and I've had no major issues with MIUI since SS-12 Revamped came out. MIUI has the most robust theming system I've seen in a ROM, so your wife may enjoy it. Just be ready to have her phone covered in Pink with fluffy icons and whatnot when she's done with it
kaintfm said:
The more important question is: Does your wife like having her phone tinkered with?
The Gingerbread ROMs are coming along, but they're not quite stable yet. You might want to stick with Froyo unless your wife is a fan of tinkering and using workarounds for GPS and battery life issues.
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Messing with the bootloader is the only way I know of to completely kill your phone if you mess it up. Fair warning!
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Wow, thanks. You answered questions I didn't even know I had!
My wife wants a phone that "just works", but she wanted the speed and customizability of a custom ROM (her whole phone is already themed purple, haha), so I guess I'll go shopping for another Froyo ROM (or try to wipe and reinstall her current ROM to try to fix the crashes and accelerometer problems she's been having.)
Thanks again, I appreciate it.
A nice stable froyo ROM you can try is called toxic 8..since she likes themes, they have a bunch of them and the developer has added a lot of nice touches that are gingerlike
Again, if she likes theming and doesn't much use the GPS (it works, but requires an extra step or two), MIUI is unique and has the most robust theming of any Vibrant ROM.
I used to be a die hard fan of Simple Honey Roms, but they all became too unstable or had various issues, and caused me alot of problems and aggravation!! So far the only ROM that's been a super performer is team Toxic's Crazy 8 Froyo mixed with GB Rom, that works 100% with every option and with blazing speed and performance, Its your choice, but if you want to avoid the music from your wife when SH starts to hose up, Id stay away from it, especially 5.0 and double especially 5.1 but then again maybe your a gluten for punishment and NO MORE lovin from the wife, until things are right again. LOL Good luck JMHO based on experience with all the SH Rom's BTW I appreciates EB's work, but it still needs time to evolve, eventually there gonna be great ROM's.
I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
More speed, possibly better battery life, app backups, themes.
Mr Global said:
I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
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Customization, nerd cred, and a reason to be on XDA (and not a regular android/GT10 enthusiast site).
When I got my Tab 10.1, I was very disappointed with the performance of the stock ROM. I installed the AOKP Ice Cream Sandwich ROM and haven't looked back since. You need to root your device on order to do this.
Following on from Jay's comment regarding app backups is being able to backup and transfer your saved games between devices. Many of the games that I play don't store their save game files on the SD card and so having root access is the only way to access those files. I've even found an app on Google Play that uses DropBox to automatically sync these files between devices.
I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
Also don't forget to pair your ps3 emulator with your tab 10.1
TabGuy said:
I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
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There is always risk, but with flashing it is next to none. Of course, sometimes there will be times where something may go wrong, but if you follow the guidelines exactly you will be fine.
I have flashed countless times, on many different pieces of hardware and not once have I ever even come close to a black screen, let alone a brick.
Increase in speed, extra customization, getting rid of stock programs that aren't needed (social hub etc) and having total control over a piece of kit that you bought makes it well worth it.
Have just unboxed my Tab about an hour ago, will be flashing it within the next two!
edit: I am now rooted.
TabGuy said:
I've had my Tab since last June. I have been tempted to root and change the ROM but I just haven't convinced myself to jump over the fence. I have a strong fear that I'll make a mistake and turn my $600+ investment into a brick.
I don't play games so saving their state isn't of value to me. There are some hiccups in the Touchwiz interface but there are some things I really like about Touchwiz especially the notification bar and the ability to turn wifi, bluetooth, etc. off/on from anywhere via the notificaiton bar.
Speed doesn't seem to be an issue for me but if a new ROM means a SIGNIFICANT increase in speed, not just an incremental increase, then it may be worth it.
Sell me on the idea of changing my ROM. I need a push to get over the fence. Something that outweighs the risk.
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This just about sums up my feelings too.
I've decided to wait until the ICS update and I'll decide from there if I'm happy with the Tab as it is. I'm more inclined to want to root etc, after we've had our final official update from Samsung (will that be ICS?).
I tried ICS for a bit, but didn't see a significant performance increase. I need the camera for work when I do site surveys, so I switched back to one of the honeycomb 3.2 roms that is nearly stock, but has a few extra things I like, such as the power menu. Also, battery life is outstanding on HC
I like being rooted, mostly because you can remove some bloat, and install titanium backup to make backups of your apps and data.
Mr Global said:
I am familiar with rooting phones. My Samsung Galaxy S II is rooted.
I am wondering what are the benefits of rooting this tab?
I am happy with the speed and battery life. Are there other reasons?
Thanks!
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I just rooted mine but left it on the stock honey comb rom.
The main reason was just to use some of the cool apps in the market like case switch & gesture control & ad block
Just rooting the stock rom is still a great alternative because you don't lose out on anything but gain root.
I didn't put a custom rom on it as I too am fine with the performance of my tab but as soon as ICS comes out for our tab and to camera works I'm jumping straight to AOKP.
My advice is that if you've come across a really cool app that needs root and you've gone:
"Wow! That's awesome. Oh wait, you need root - never mind "
Then root your gab already! otherwise if you don't have any reason to then just leave it and when CM9 or AOKP have fully working features you'll be chomping at the bit to get them.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1 using XDA Premium HD app
Ad block, overclocking, app backup (really everything in Titanium Backup) are the things I reckon I would have a hard time doing without.
Questions go in the Q&A section
I got my 7510 at Xmas. I was really happy with it except for TouchWiz lag. I rooted it within a few weeks. By March I was running a stock ROM - Overcome. That fixed the lag and reboots. I just started overclocking and it's even better now. I just switched to Task 14 (a HC ROM aka working camera) and it's too early to say if it's a keeper but in general my experience just keeps getting better and better (no thanks to Samsung.)
If you're happy with a stock Tab you will be giddy using a new kernel and overclocking. I thought I left my Tab plugged in last night but the charger was pulled out of the power strip. Cut it on and it was at 95% after 18 hours. That's overclocked to 1400.
I can't say enough about the stability, speed and battery conservation that some of these ROMs and kernels provide. People all say this stuff but until you see it first hand you won't realize how much better things can be.
First, an explanation of my situation:
I bought a Galaxy Note at the beginning of the summer. All-in-all, I was pretty happy with it. It was a much improved experience over my Atrix, which was in poor condition by the time I switched over.
I wasn't able to root at first as I only had access to a Mac, and there were innumerable issues in doing so - Odin was PC only, WINE ports of it failed to recognize the phone, the Mac equivalent of Odin (I am spacing on its name right now) didn't work with the Note, etc.
When ICS was officially released, I tried to update to it via Kies. Kies on Mac is a ****storm. It's incredibly buggy, toolbars and menus don't display correctly, it has trouble recognizing the device, etc. I was unable to get it to make a backup, but I eventually managed to load the ROM onto it...
... and that's when the real problems started.
My battery life has turned to crap. Everything runs incredibly slow. Everything's super buggy. Apps force-close all the time. My MicroSD card ended up getting corrupted - half of my music disappeared, of what was left only 1/3rd actually worked. I just reformatted my MicroSD, backing everything important up, etc.
I've been dealing with this for around a month now, as whenever I come to the forum I have no idea where to even start to fix this. I'm up for wiping everything and starting over, and I do have access to a Windows XP machine now so that may be easier... but I don't even know where to go from there.
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That's why I'm here - I need advice. I need advice as to how to clean up the current mess my phone has turned into and start over. I need advice as to what ROM to try and how to go about loading it. I need advice as to whether to root and how to do so. I need advice as to whether to install a CWM, which one to use and how to go about doing so.
Here is what I am looking for, ordered from most important to least:
Battery life is important to me. I loved how long the battery lasted before my attempted upgrade to ICS... now it lasts maybe 1/3 of the time.
I want something that will work - I want stability. No more constant force-quits of every freaking app.
A smooth, fast UI would be preferable.
Feature packed. I like the thought of cutting edge features of newer (or custom) versions of Android being incorporated - but this is far less important to me than battery life and stability.
My preferred method of installation would be using my Mac - but as I said, Windows XP is a very easy option for me as well. I could also install a newer version of Windows if need be, but would prefer not to go through that...
Thanks in advance for any help, advice and recommendations! ^_^
Get Odin and root your phone...
Download and flash TWRP... http://teamw.in/project/twrp
download a ROM of your choice
boot into the recovery ..wipe--->>cache/dalvik cache/ wipe ROM/factory reset..>then go to the install and flash your ROM...
These are very rudimentary instructions I hope they helped a bit...good luck
Do you have an idea for what ROM you like or want? Couple of great ROMs..for stockish check out flappjaxxx's for jellybean check out manelscout4life..stable and fast
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Techno is onto the correct answer, unless of course you are truly wanting the stock version back.
Kies and OTA updates are often flawed, and give the end user exactly the type of problems you are stating.
However, if you want a return to stock, the information can be found in the "note super everything thread" located as a sticky at the top of the general note section.
But I do agree with techno, that a root and flash of a quality custom rom is the way to go......g
Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
That is the best stockish ICS experience you can get and keeps all the functionality of your phone including the spen. He also offers a jellybean ROM but honestly to find the best JB rom for you just read through the threads read and REREAD THE OP of those ROMs..jellybean is fun and cool but not 101% stable yet..people still getting random reboots and some are losing there APN settings..so maybe just flashing ics and playing with those ROMs is best for you for now..FYI the above rom is smooth as silk and great battery life
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Again , I agree with Techno, and the rom he posted is the one I'm using to type this.
Flappjaxxx is a fine developer, and he has packed this UCLF6 build with full functionality , and much more.
He is , and will continue to be my top pick for quality builds and performance ...g
This is all really wonderful advice - thanks again!
I guess I have a few last questions:
What is the best way to root at this point? If I recall, there are multiple ways to root via Odin... is there a specific one you would recommend for my current situation (read: current buggy ICS firmware)? A link would be very much appreciated, as the roadmap thread is a bit... overwhelming with all of the options.
Are there any MODs you recommend I install after I have my new flappjaxxx ROM in place? Will tethering work off the bat? Will all of the Gapps (Gmail, Navigation, etc.) be there for me to use? Will I need to install anything else, or is there any recommendations that you have?
Thanks again a ton - you've both been enormously helpful!
Also, I just noticed that the recovery you linked me to (http://teamw.in/project/twrp) has no option for the Galaxy Note...
EDIT: It turns out you linked me to the wrong page - to TWPR 1. Here's the link to TWRP 2.2, for anyone else who comes across this thread: http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
Just my 2 cents. After you get straightened out, you may want to take a look here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29376779
Another stable rom with great battery life, and a super Dev a well. I have been running it since testing and find it to be the perfect rom and team for me.
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Okay ....
Please verify your carrier ....model ...and current software version ....then we can point you to the correct bits and pieces of the super thread.
I just want to make sure we are all on the same page ....g
Edit :
I'm away for a few hours ...
But I'm sure a few other helpful folks will chime in with the links ...g
phnord said:
Thanks a lot, both of you!
As to what ROM I want, honestly that's one of the reasons I have been procrastinating so much -- I have no idea whatsoever. There's such an overwhelming number of options out there, of basic flavors (ICS, JB, GB, CM7, etc.) and tens of derivatives of each one made by different people. I have no idea where to even start making such a decision.
I can tell you this much. On my Atrix, I started with the stock Motoblur-Froyo, flashed GingerBlur, disliked it's bugginess but dealt with it for almost a year, then flashed the CM7-based Neutrino. I wasn't very happy with how skimpy the ROM was but stuck with it until I got my Note. I was pretty satiated with the stock ROM, but decided to upgrade to ICS due to the promise of a better UI, increased functionality and especially a faster camera. While my experience with ICS was terrible, I could see myself enjoying a functional, non-buggy version...
Basically, I have no idea what ROM or even what base OS version I am looking for. That said, I do know the criteria that matter to me, as stated prior:
Battery Life
Stability
Smooth UI
Cutting-Edge Feature Packed
I can't really think of any features I am specifically looking for, other than under-the-radar tethering and top-notch camera speed & functionality .
As I have no attachment to any specific OS version, suppose that would mean that if battery life, stability and smoothness issues are equal amongst ROM variants, I would be looking for a Jellybean ROM - as it would be most packed with new features... right?
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Im using black star v flawless in my eyes..
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Moving back from a CM 10.1 based rom to stock once the new JB update was released by At&t, I knew there would be a slight sacrifice in speed when going back to the TouchWiz UI. I was willing to take that small hit to get the s-pen and other stuff back. I have noticed a few things about this update and I am on the fence as far as whether or not to stick with it or go back to a CM 10.1 based or other ROM:
Pros:
* The Nature UI on TouchWiz is pretty. The slight drop shadows under app icons and some widgets is nice.
* I like the S-Pen stuff, though to be honest, I don't use it all that often.
* The sound quality seems to be improved on this update. Not sure why, but everything sounds better - music, calls, notifications.
* This stock ROM seems to handle the screen colors better. There is less of that annoying AMOLED color banding effect that drives me nuts on most other ROMs (I am a web and graphics designer, so these aesthetic things bother me).
* Signal Quality - It seems the signal is stronger and I do like knowing the difference between a regular 4g and an LTE signal. It seems the modem firmware is also better (which I installed along with this update) and quicker at locking on to a data connection.
Cons:
* TouchWiz UI is really quite out of date when you consider all the advancements Google has made to Android since version 4.1 as far as grouping of icons, project butter etc. It seems that not much has improved overall on Samsung's TouchWiz since the previous update.
* My phone really lags as far as overall performance. Some of this is most likely due to TouchWiz, but opening apps, going to task manager and other processes is painfully slow and annoying. Forget trying to open the camera app in a pinch when you want to shoot a candid. By the time the camera is ready to shoot, the moment is gone.
* The leds under the menu buttons are not used for notifications - It seems silly to me that Samsung or At&t would not take advantage of this functionality that most third party ROMs do. If my phone is in a separate room on vibrate or mute and I receive a text or call, I will not know this until I actually pick up the phone and turn on the display. That is silly.
* Battery Life - sucks period. This seems worse with the update.
I guess what I am trying to do here is find a reason to stick with this update and perhaps make improvements based on others opinions here. I think the most important issue would be improving the speed/responsiveness of the system overall.
I have been following some of the other offerings available as far as third party ROMs based off the official Samsung/AT&T 4.1.2 version. Padawan is one such ROM which had quite a bit of attention in the forum.
There are some solutions which others have reported which make noticeable speed improvements in general:
* Deodexing - I think this is possible on a rooted device with a stock ROM, but most just install a ROM which is already deodexed. I wonder how much improvement in performance is noted after this is done.
* Debloating - Removing unnecessary apps that the carrier has decided to include to increase value to the customer. I am not sure what improvement in performance this really offers as to affect performance negatively, these apps would need to be running in the background all the time, right?
* Go with a vanilla generic Android ROM which does not have the TouchWiz UI over it, such as something CM based. As nice as the speed improvements are in doing that, I still would love to keep my s-pen sensitivity and features on the odd occasions when I do use the s-pen.
Anyhow, enough of my long winded post. I am just really curious as to what others think.
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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Thanks for your response. It was already rooted, running TWRP. As far as debloating, so would I use Titanium Backup to freeze or remove the at&t specific apps? Also which At&T bloatware causes the most issues in terms of performance lag? There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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Well, then that's totally subjective. What I usually do is I freeze such apps. If you do really need them, you'll miss them. Then that's the indication you should unfreeze them.
I'm amazed at how hit-and-miss people's reviews of stock 4.1.2 are. I'm running true stock - in that I'm using the odin package - and it's the fastest, and by far the most stable, JB ROM I've ever used on my Note -- and I've run the gauntlet with them. I simply used ES File Explorer to delete everything that at all looked like something from AT&T, and then I went into my running applications/services, and anything that I did not use, or thought I didn't use, I went into Titanium and froze. Now I'm always at ~300mb of free RAM and my battery rivals anything I've experienced -- even a drastically underclocked and volted ICS kernel.
I did, however, accidentally delete my calculator in the process. I get a little aggressive with my cleaning of things. On the bright side, I found a CM calculator port on the market which is prettier and gets the job done.
I am running a stock rooted Rogers JB 4.1.2. It is by far faster, smoother, and better battery than the ICS counterpart. If I turned off Location services the battery would even be better.
I believe the problems most are experiencing is from dirty flashing. Format that USB storage and wipe the data before installing the ROM. I know from experience. I installed using odin without wiping or formatting anything. Yes I kept all my apps and info but what I was left with was a laggy and battery hungry phone.
I understand that the Quadrant test doesn't mirror real life but on my phone I constantly achieve higher test scores with stock 4.1.2 than with cm 10.1 or cm10.0.
Not saying I like it better or worse but I don't think speed is that bad on stock 4.1.2
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Android Newbie ... Rooting i717 with stock JB?
SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
olliesshop said:
I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
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I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thank you !!! I've been watching a lot of them, but they don't seems to be exactly right. I really appreciate the feedback and help !!!
The thing I don't like about using any other ROMs, is that the "Auto Screen Tone Adjust" setting is not in any of them, and the screen automatically dims on white backgrounds and I don't like that. Is there a way to fix that or add the setting in another ROM?