[Q] Is battery temperature at 122°F bad? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was playing Crusade of Destiny (full scale 3D single play RPG) while charging my phone and noticed the phone was feeling really really hot.
My phone is on Bionix 1.9.1 (OC/UV/VooDoo) and I used SetCPU to OC it to 1.2ghz.
Being me, I didn't want to melt my phone so I stopped playing and used SetCPU to check my battery temperate- low and behold, it was a little over 122°F. I went ahead and cooled the phone down asap by putting it in the freezer for a good minute or so and temperature went back down to 98°F.
My question is, at what limit should the temperature be at to insure myself that the phone will be okay?

DannyDoan said:
I was playing Crusade of Destiny (full scale 3D single play RPG) while charging my phone and noticed the phone was feeling really really hot.
My phone is on Bionix 1.9.1 (OC/UV/VooDoo) and I used SetCPU to OC it to 1.2ghz.
Being me, I didn't want to melt my phone so I stopped playing and used SetCPU to check my battery temperate- low and behold, it was a little over 122°F. I went ahead and cooled the phone down asap by putting it in the freezer for a good minute or so and temperature went back down to 98°F.
My question is, at what limit should the temperature be at to insure myself that the phone will be okay?
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I set up a profile on SetCPU so if my phone reaches ~120F it give me an audible warning and clocks it down to 800 max. I know some ppl have had problems with profiles, however, they work just fine for me. I have heard that the Vibrant will start getting screwy around 125F, so best to keep it under that.

Ah, didn't know I could set an audible warning with SetCPU.
Wow I was closing to screwing up my phone then. Scary.

A lot of people report it heating up like that when charging and using the phone at the same time. If it ever got that high, I think its common sense to stop playing or maybe close what your doing (3d games or something heavy on the processor) I personally never got past 120 F...

I'd at the very least not OC. That game runs well with the stock kernel and no lagfix
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DannyDoan said:
I went ahead and cooled the phone down asap by putting it in the freezer for a good minute or so and temperature went back down to 98°F.
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I would strongly suggest NOT putting your phone in the freezer. ESPECIALLY when its running hot. Sudden temperature changes tend to crack electronics.
If you're worried, unplug it from the charger and turn it off. Maybe take the battery out (carefully).
- Nick

that's hot. my phone never gets past 110 when charging.
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Other Battery problems...
I'm running 2.1 w/ one-click root and one click lag fix. I uninstalled ATK for the stock task manager set to strict, and I usually have wifi and gps. Ever since rooting and teh lag fix my battery has been hot battery is draining very quickly. Next thought is to just make the jump to 2.2. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

When I flashed to Project Core kernal 1.2 and severe heat problems. Especially when overclocked passed 1 ghz you're gonna have heat issues. I don't really use my phone as it charges and i kill tasks that are not in use. Currently I'm using project core kernal v1 1ghz and its working great for me.

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How Hot is to Hot?

After I installed xRecovery I noticed my battery temperature started to get high. It used to run at anywhere from low thirtys too low fortys if I was running many apps.After xRecovery its high thirtys idle and will go as high as 52c is this dangerous?
One thing I noticed was when it starts to get hot, ill run killapps and it cools down. CPU usage you might say? But it even happens when I force the CPU to 245hrz constant.
Second thing that seems odd is when I check to see what apps are running it usually all of them,like one by one they load but don't obviously do so as I only see them in running apps list. I can force stop,but they very slowly come back. Is 52c too hot? And anyone have the xRecovery hot battery issue?
PS I've narrowed it down to xRecovery through a series of tests. Tempt fine without root, fine rooted,but install xRecovery and it gets hot. Manually kill the renegade apps and its fine, how might xRecovery cause programs to idle In the background? Hope I made sense as its 327am 33c inside
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52 c is not good. lol
you can def expect ur battery to be dieing very quickly
and possibly overheat the phone.
I too had battery heating issues but when I changed my charger tovthe universal se charger, I no longer had any heating issues. I use set CPU with settings at on demand
Cheers!
AdY
I also use a set CPU, but it will Max out even on demand. Thing iis, if I go back to. Stock rom then it it goes back too normal..ill post a solution if I find one
Thanks
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Battery drain+Heat=Wifi+Stock Browser, please read

Hello again dear xda members
I've been using S II for over 2 weeks now! I get the following(which many of you do get also). When I turn on WiFi and start surfing, the phone starts to overheat and battery is drained like a juice.
Well, after a long study, I've found out that it's the stock browser's fault!
Yeah! I opened WiFi, surfed a little and it started to heat up! Well, I was trying to download something, and since stock sucks at downloading( except if you add to it an app from the market called Downloadfiles) I opened DolphinHD!!
What I saw, or felt-whatever-, was just
After 5 minutes, the phone cooled down, temperature became normal and of course battery was less consumed!
So, to all people who have heat issues, it turns out(at least in my humble opinion) that it's the stock browser's fault!!!
Any thoughts anyone? Similar experiences?
I've been using it for 10 days and experienced no such overheating, but battery time should be much better.
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Really? It doesn't overheat never? even not when playing games?
I thought mine was faulty, but I went to couple of stores where they have it open for customers to play with, and I did the same as mine and it started to heat up!
Mine heats up a bit after playing a game or running a certain app for a while, but I never experience overheating with the stock browser. Though you should take in to consideration that the GS2 is a thin device, the CPU is close to your hands. Most phones also have to exessivly keep searching for connections because it is weak or something is blocking its way. The transmitting/receiving device is located at the top along with the CPU so it'll tend to get hot. Most smartphones do overall.
Also, the phone gets hotter while using it connected to a charger just because the battery is filling up the same time you are using it. Also, take in to consideration that no patch for true dualcore support has yet been released nor announced. Just some factors why the phone heats up.
thanks man!
Well, heating up is normal-as far as I read in here-... But when using Stock Browser, I'm talking about overheat! really! I believe it's a bug, since as said, nor Firefox, Dolphin and Skyfire(I use all of them) produce that issue! And I disabled flash content(thought that might make it better) but it was the same! Don't know!
Anyways, thanks for answering!
OVer wifi I have no problems. Over 3G is another story! and playing games is another story. It warms up every 5 minutes while playing games.
Yours too huh? well, mine does that on WiFi!
What is Overheating? How do you know it is overheating unless you know the temperature of the battery? Well OP and other posters who are saying the phone gets overheated please mention the temperature of it. The ambient temp of Europe/USA is 20-25°C Max, and if the device runs even cool then it will have temp around 30-32°C, that is much higher than the ambient temp and probably that's why you guys are feeling the phone is overheating but in fact it's not. Here in Calcutta, ambient is 32-33°C and the Phone temp in normal is the same, so we/I don't feel it's overheating, only when I surf net for an hour straight with charging then the temp rises up to 44-45°C, that's when it could be said that the phone is running on high temp, still for the hardware we are given 45°C is not hot.
So before saying the phone is overheating please check the battery temp.
Regards.
how do I measure battery temperature?
Ok, Battery life widget?
I'll measure then I'll let you know!
There is a reason stock browser uses more battery and heats more. It uses GPU to render pages more quickly! But for me even on stock it is not that hot, more than on other phones, but thats what you get for a thin phone.
Maybe somone will test battery life with stock+GPU and dolphin browser with no GPU. Maybe the difference is not that big at all, maybe just GPU heats more than CPU but uses same battery.
now let's not forget android doesn't have graphics acceleration, and without it the GPU has to work harder which generates more heat
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Ok, I get 41 to 45 °C degrees!
So, no overheat just heat!
So, based on what you're saying, this is normal?
Kostask11 said:
Ok, I get 41 to 45 °C degrees!
So, no overheat just heat!
So, based on what you're saying, this is normal?
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Your ambient is 27°C, right? So it's normal to me. Anything less than 50°C should be OK, imo.
Regards.
My ambient is 34 to 30 °C
Ok, so my phone is fine? Wow! !! thanks
that really made me happy!
I thought it was faulty
Thanks so much everyone for answering
Kostask11 said:
My ambient is 34 to 30 °C
Ok, so my phone is fine? Wow! !! thanks
that really made me happy!
I thought it was faulty
Thanks so much everyone for answering
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You are welcome. This is mine, phone is untouched for half an hour, my room temp is currently 28°C.
Regards.
I see! Then it's fine
thanks again! It's a big relief! I was coming from Omnia I and I was like wtf
ithehappy said:
Your ambient is 27°C, right? So it's normal to me. Anything less than 50°C should be OK, imo.
Regards.
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Summer in Greece and sub-30-degrees Celsius don't go together.That's why we're hot!
Anyway,****ty joking aside,inside a bus today,under the sun with an ambient temperature of about 35-36 degrees(dunno how you put the degrees symbol pal ) and with my GPU overclocked at 400MHz with 1100mV using tegrak overclock ultimate,I played some Angry Birds and,although the phone reported no more than 44 degrees,it was very hot at the top.
My opinion?If you(or me obviously) manage to somehow burn/fry something,make sure to do it so bad that it doesn't even respond to Chuck Norris' roundhouse kick! That way maybe Sammy won't notice...Shush!
tolis626 said:
(dunno how you put the degrees symbol pal )
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Alt+0176.
Funny comment anyway.

[Q] How hot is too hot?

Exactly what the title says... I tried searching but didn't find anything so pardon me if there was already a thread on this here.
I did some google'ing and there wasn't much for specific info, just sounded like guesses. I read in a thread here if it was over 33c (91.4f) then it was getting too hot, and I also recall somebody saying if it was over 107f then it wasn't good.
Any legit info on this subject? I may contact HTC to find out if they have a range they consider normal operating temp for the phone.
I remember when I got my phone I was playing with the demo in the VZW store and it seemed hot to me. I didn't get actual temps from it but I don't think my phone feels any hotter than the demo phone was.
I sometimes run the phone overclocked, sometimes not. Doesn't really seem to make any difference in heat anyways.
Someone told me 45 degrees C, is too hot, which I think is 113 degrees? (C x (9/5) + 32)?
How are you getting the temp? I have been concerned about how hot my phone is getting also. Spare parts that my Battery is at 43.2 Celcius.
-Sent from my Thunderbolt
Any temperature you're pulling from any app, is not even the actual CPU or other chips in your phone. It's being pulled from the battery. That said I firmly believe your processor is a good bit hotter than the battery having much experience in computer overclocking and cooling for many many years (see 12+ years hands on experience) so with that in mind, I would have to say...
40* celsius is my breaking point. Once I hit that I basically stop whatever I'm doing and turn off the display to let it cool. It's pretty hard to hit this temp, even on UV/OC'ed kernels, but with heavy radio traffic, screen on max brightness and a high cpu load its possible.
Well my phone is hitting 100+ consistantly. The temp reading I'm getting is from the setcpu widget.
I have been backing off the phone when it hits 100+. I'm running gingeritis 3d and the mr2.5 radio right now. I tried mr2 and some other non-3d roms but its still heating up, seems like its even doing it when at idle.
I may go back to froyo, and even unroot and go back to 100% stock to see if that makes any difference. I don't want my phone to blow up on me haha.
Thanks for the response. I may still contact HTC to see if they have a temp range recommendation for "normal" use.
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capflya said:
Well my phone is hitting 100+ consistantly. The temp reading I'm getting is from the setcpu widget.
I have been backing off the phone when it hits 100+. I'm running gingeritis 3d and the mr2.5 radio right now. I tried mr2 and some other non-3d roms but its still heating up, seems like its even doing it when at idle.
I may go back to froyo, and even unroot and go back to 100% stock to see if that makes any difference. I don't want my phone to blow up on me haha.
Thanks for the response. I may still contact HTC to see if they have a temp range recommendation for "normal" use.
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i've had some problems with gingerbread roms too...if the phone is noticeably warm or hot in your hand for no good reason...it's either an app you have installed running wild or you're phone doesn't like the voltage of the kernel you are running....some phones are more sensitive than others.
what kernel you running??? you can try imo's latest kernel...out of the box it's pretty stable
SFBPro said:
How are you getting the temp? I have been concerned about how hot my phone is getting also. Spare parts that my Battery is at 43.2 Celcius.
-Sent from my Thunderbolt
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Lol, I'll tell ya how you get that temp. Have a car that has a broken A/C and a windshield mounted car dock. That being said I have a SetCPU profile that fires off a notification sound whever the phone gets over 44C and underclocks the processor. I usually still take it off the dock to let cool down.
Also, I recall that at a certain point (not sure if its ROM specific), my TBolt started flashing the amber light to let me know that it hated me for heat abuse.

Does everyone's Atrix get really warm?

I was just curious if everyone's Atrix gets warm in the lower part of of the phone?
I've read on a few forums people just chalk it up the the dual core processor, but mine gets warm even if I'm doing something as simple as just reading Fox News. I don't know how that could be taxing the processor that much. I don't have much else running in memory which could be using a ton a resources.
Mine doesn't get hot, just pretty warm. I guess I am just suprised cause it's the only phone I've ever had that gets warm like that.
I tried our display model at work and it gets really warm also, so I guess exchanging my phone for another would probably amount to ending up with a new phone that does the same thing.
I was just wondering if it is common with everyone.
Yes, its a dual core phone so its to be expected.
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Yeah, mines gets warm too. Maybe try downloading SetCPU and limiting the processor's speed if you can't handle the heat
Anyways, its to be expected especially while running games or watching movies.
How hot is too hot? With fauxs newest kernel mine gets up to 70c
OCd at 1.3 on idle is at 51 celcius. I think its acceptable
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What are normal temps?
Also is there an app which will let me see the temp which works in the stock firmware?
I dropped back to the .7 kernel. My processor was getting way too hot at even 1.2 when under load. 70C+ is not good for any processor. Back to 1.1 for me.
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CaelanT said:
I dropped back to the .7 kernel. My processor was getting way too hot at even 1.2 when under load. 70C+ is not good for any processor. Back to 1.1 for me.
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Plus those temps are like a hot knife going through butter on the battery life...
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dragoncius said:
OCd at 1.3 on idle is at 51 celcius. I think its acceptable
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Which kernel are you using?
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51C at IDLE?! Mine is at 42C!
What OC you have shouldn't matter, as your phone doesn't run at maximum frequency with maximum voltage unless you are actively using it!
But to answer the OP's question, my phone gets pretty warm too. I just read the temperature after watching a 5 minute HD video, and it was at 67C. If you are using the cellular radio i'd imagine it can get even warmer.
That means the dualcore is doing its job
Using setcpu and CPU stress testing & quadrant benchmarking for almost 2 hours straight one day, mine never exceeded 60C.
I think the 1.3OC(v1.9) kernel is wonderful, I've hit 4.9k scores on quadrant standard. It seems to be more friendly with the combination of setcpu & CM7 also, the later kernels kind of crippled my setcpu profiles and would cause my launcher to FC(I suspect?)
Phone idles at 34C.. probably lower because screen off my max freq is 216mhz(AMAZING BATTERY LIFE) in fact, i usually keep my proc throttled down to about 400mhz and don't crank it up until i need it(again. AMAZING BATTERY LIFE)
honestly... at 400mhz the phone still quite snappy.
51c? unnaceptable.
mine runs at about 30c most of the time.
however i did notice a strange issue that the phone gets alot hotter after you charge it and then unplug the charger, a reboot usually fixes this. i make it a habit of rebooting immediately after unplugging the charger and my phone stays most of the day between 30-33c
this also helps the battery life a lot, i can usually get by the end of the day with 60 to 80 percent left.
If you change your oil every 5k miles and put air in the tires and keep your fluids topped off you should be to.... ummm wrong forum. I though this was the nascar forum.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Mine average on 58C to max at 62C.. Idles at 41C.. It's warm! I got used to it.
Has anyone considered the longevity of the phone and battery from the unit staying warm all the time?
Mine is pretty much warm the whole time it is in my hand when being used. Outside in the sun taking pictures even more so.
I don't think I have any runaway processes. After I restart the phone, I use a task killer to kill everything it boots up with initially. Everything which is needed, like about 4 things come right back up, so I excluded them. But I don't use to to autokill stuff. It's just when I boot up I noticed there are like 30 things started up for no reason being as I just turned off the phone.
I figured I know which ones need to be up cause they come right back up after being killed. But things like Google+, Maps, Gallery...etc...which I don't think need to be running at bootup I kill.
+1 on going back to 1.1... OC'd at 1.3 was killing battery and heating up like crazy! OC'd to 1.1 have no problem with UV, heat, and get 30+ hours battery life with moderate use.
It's not just the CPU/GPU usage what's heating up the Atrix...
That specific area of the Atrix contains CPU/GPU and also the GSM/3G/Wifi and Bluetooth radio chip, which can get really hot while broadcasting voice/data. Even if the radio is idle, if you are on a bad reception area it will be constantly searching for coverage and switching from 3G/4G to 2G, which creates heat and battery drain.
My .2 cents
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chocodough said:
I was just curious if everyone's Atrix gets warm in the lower part of of the phone?
I've read on a few forums people just chalk it up the the dual core processor, but mine gets warm even if I'm doing something as simple as just reading Fox News. I don't know how that could be taxing the processor that much. I don't have much else running in memory which could be using a ton a resources.
Mine doesn't get hot, just pretty warm. I guess I am just suprised cause it's the only phone I've ever had that gets warm like that.
I tried our display model at work and it gets really warm also, so I guess exchanging my phone for another would probably amount to ending up with a new phone that does the same thing.
I was just wondering if it is common with everyone.
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It gets warm because Fox News sends messages directly from hell.
On a more serious note, mine gets warm if im playing games.
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When I go camping, if it rains I fire up galaxy on fire 2, and roast marshmallows with my phone. (Pillsbury dough boy giggle.)
I voided my warranty and your mum.

*How did you overcome the Massive OVER HEATING

My rezound is over heats until it shots off sometimes. This over heating isn't normal. over 118 degrees). I don't think there is a fix, might be wrong. but what have yall tried and have you been successful with over coming the heating?
Over 110 is normal for this phone. Mine rarely gets that hot unless streaming stuff on 4g. But I would say 110-115 on heavy 4g use is normal. 122 is max. After that is when it should shut off
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the 110 degrees might be wrong. My phone isn't on at the moment so i cannot tell u how hot it is. the heat totally killed my battery, and i had to order a new one.im trying to avoid the heat destroy this new battery. what u think?
110?
There are a skillion threads on heat on these boards.
Your phone will not shut down at 110. Your phone will not shut down at 120. If you are in 1x, your phone will heat. If you are playing a HD game, your phone will heat. If you are in a hot car, your phone will heat.
But your phone will NOT shut down at 110. If your phone really did shut down at that temperature, then RMA it.
Never noticed my phone getting hot. How do you measure it?
newest leaked RUU has fixed this problem. ruu and flash a new rom and not a restore and you will see you phone stay under 100.
I'm running identical setups on 2 phones but one of them gets super hot when charging and also hotter when under the same moderate use.
The newest leak may have fixed it for you, but it hasn't for me. I still struggle with heat. Mine got to 120 surfing the net on wifi in airplane mode just yesterday. I think they have bad batches, and until you get a good one, you will have this issue. This is my third Rezound, and it may be going back as well. I really want to love this phone, but am getting a little tired of trading them in. Hopefully the fourth time is the charm.
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I sure would like to contribute to this thread but it would be helpful if someone could answer me and tell me how to measure the temperature, please.
Battery monitor app from the Market will track/display the temps.
This phone does run hot, and the ICS builds are hotter than GB was. I can still overheat mine with prolonged heavy surfing, esp on WiFi, but the latest leak is far better than the preceding ones, at least as far as my phone is concerned.
I didn't do anything. My phone has been in my pocket for about an hour, but setCPU says the current temp is 80.7*F. That seems pretty reasonable.
I stick mine in the freezer
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synisterwolf said:
newest leaked RUU has fixed this problem. ruu and flash a new rom and not a restore and you will see you phone stay under 100.
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lol mine still easily hits like 105..im not complaining because mine never 'overheats' but the RUU, if anything, makes it run warmer for me.
I am totally stock. Hit about 114.6F in a 75F shady room after playing Temple Run for about 20min and then streaming 45min worth of Youtube via 4G. I was also charging it for about 1/2 the streaming time.
It felt really warm; warmer than I ever felt it. That is waaaay harder than I ever use my phone though so it doesn't bother me.
After wireless tethering for an hour on 4G: 115*F
Still, this doesn't seem warm enough to warrant any concern. It does not seem to ever get this warm during regular usage, and even now it doesn't seem warm enough that I should be worried.
dose the heat from the phone contribute to the limited battery life.?if the official update dont fix this im gonna sell it.
I've never gotten over 114 degrees and I rarely ever get to 110.
Knock on wood.
I have hit over 120, but I was also charging and using WiFi tether.
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Now that we have custom kernels
I wanted to see how people are managing their overheating issues. I am on my 6th rezound and I use it as my main GPS. I am sooo sick of the flashing red and green bulb telling me I can fry bacon on my phone.
SO here is what i have...
S-off of course, ruu to latest global , then custom hboot 2.27.
Viper, with dsp 1.0.7 custom kernel . All frequencies and are undervolted by 100 mv ( anything more causes stability issues )
I use incredicontrol for max 1.0 ghz with lagfree governor and bfq
guess what, i am still overheating.
Any more manipulations i can do to prevent walking around with a toaster oven ?
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but we have too many of those thread already, and i didn't see any after the source was released.
jmichaels1982 said:
I wanted to see how people are managing their overheating issues. I am on my 6th rezound and I use it as my main GPS. I am sooo sick of the flashing red and green bulb telling me I can fry bacon on my phone.
SO here is what i have...
S-off of course, ruu to latest global , then custom hboot 2.27.
Viper, with dsp 1.0.7 custom kernel . All frequencies and are undervolted by 100 mv ( anything more causes stability issues )
I use incredicontrol for max 1.0 ghz with lagfree governor and bfq
guess what, i am still overheating.
Any more manipulations i can do to prevent walking around with a toaster oven ?
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but we have too many of those thread already, and i didn't see any after the source was released.
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I hear ya, I have tried just about every combo of rom, kernal, gov, Etc...
Still hit 130 deg.
Maybe we can just use them to sell toast on the streetcorner
I think you just get a good or a bad one, for me all 4 have overheated
Personally I think its BS and about ready to chuck it into the Fire and really watch it Burn!!

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