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I'm currently using Mogul but thinking about switching to the Touch, should I? your comments please...
I used the Touch for a few weeks and felt so lost without the keyboard. The extra ram is nice, but it is not worth the lack of a real keyboard, no wi-fi, and the screen is kind of annoying to look at. I ended up trading the Touch for another Mogul and I haven't looked back since.
If you don't need keyboard or WiFi or camera flash (or GPS, for now), then touch is better (smaller, more ram, better camera). Personally, I need Wifi, I like a keyboard, and I'd miss the camera flash. I've learned to live w/ the titan's RAM.
gguruusa said:
If you don't need keyboard or WiFi or camera flash (or GPS, for now), then touch is better (smaller, more ram, better camera). Personally, I need Wifi, I like a keyboard, and I'd miss the camera flash. I've learned to live w/ the titan's RAM.
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I feel the same. But if they had a Titan with 128 mb, I would snatch it up. The touch is MUCH peppier.
The lack of Rev A and GPS on the touch (for VZW anyhow) will be remedied in short order, no doubt.
The camera flash... I dont know, not a big deal to me. I dont know of anyone who uses their phone as their primary camera anyhow.
Really it comes down to the keyboard. "Business users" such as myself probably need it. Everyone else can get away without having it much easier.
I run Intellisync to communicate to our email system at work. I do a lot of email from the phone. Therefore, anything without the keyboard loses a lot of functionality for me. Frankly, I think the Titan is one of the better CDMA phones with a keyboard. GSM may be a different story, but our GSM signal really sucks in our town (and it's not 3G yet either).
Thanks for the comments guys. Yet, I'm still pretty undecisive about the Touch for now. Thanks though
i carry both phones (one is personal, one is a touchpoint for alltel) and i can tell you that i love my 6800 much more than the touch. i think the community behind the 6800 is larger and has more groundbreaking work going on and i also would be lost without a keyboard. given, i have been getting better with typing on the touch, it just takes some getting used to. the speed increase is VERY noticable between the touch and the 6800. i never use wifi so that doesnt really bother me on the touch. in all actuality, if the keyboard is your point holding you back, pick up a bluetooth wireless laser keyboard for a hundred bucks. that would be the difference in price (actually it would be less than the difference for alltel) and would give you a keyboard for the touch.
but how inconvenient would it be to lug around a keyboard. *let me text somebody back and lug out my keyboard*
I have heard a lot of people comment that they now type faster with the touch than with the keyboard on the titan - as long as they install a 3rd party full screen dialer -
The extra ram and smaller size are really tempting to me and I think I am just about ready to swap to a vogue. The memory issues on the titan are really starting to annoy me.
This thread should be moved to the general titan forum.
1999TL:
I think he was referring to one of these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193
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1999TL:
I think he was referring to one of these:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193
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that is exactly what i was thinking of. its no bigger than a cigarette box, it would easily fit in a purse or your pocket. heard mixed results about the performance, but i actually think ill be picking one up for my touch pretty soon.
I've got a touch, I'll trade anyone for a titan (telus network)
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I've got a touch, I'll trade anyone for a titan (telus network)
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this isnt a classified forum. in fact this thread was designed to help make the decision between the two so how about you chime in and clarify why you dont want the touch anymore and would prefer a titan. i think the readers of this thread would appreciate that.
also, and this is just to help you, the retail value on the touch is about 100 bucks short of the titan so you might want to throw in some cash value or accessories along with the touch if you want to make a trade on a forum that allows it.
One thing I really like about the titan besides kb and wifi is the real hardware buttons. I'm a tactile person, and need to feel the resistance of real keys under my fingers. Sure I could get used to a software keyboard, but it won't be as quick or as pleasurable an experience.
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One thing I really like about the titan besides kb and wifi is the real hardware buttons. I'm a tactile person, and need to feel the resistance of real keys under my fingers. Sure I could get used to a software keyboard, but it won't be as quick or as pleasurable an experience.
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Oh yes! I could no live without that. I use AE button plus and it's so convenient. the most convenient is being able to use the phone as a flastlight when it is dark.
I started out with the Titan on sprint used it for a couple days and wasn't happy with the build quality. Traded it for the touch, kept the touch for 2 weeks then ended back up with the titan.
The screen on the touch bugged me, the viewable area sucks. The battery was the biggest deal breaker though. After about 50 texts, an hour of browsing and possibly ten mins of phone calls it would be nearly dead.
Back with the titan now.
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I started out with the Titan on sprint used it for a couple days and wasn't happy with the build quality. Traded it for the touch, kept the touch for 2 weeks then ended back up with the titan.
The screen on the touch bugged me, the viewable area sucks. The battery was the biggest deal breaker though. After about 50 texts, an hour of browsing and possibly ten mins of phone calls it would be nearly dead.
Back with the titan now.
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The battery, from what you have said, would be a deal breaker for me. I don't care about the keyboard and was really thinking about the vogue for the smaller form factor. But I need at least 2 days out of the thing and from the sound of it the vogue wont cut it.
I have them both, just buy you an extra battery, and all is good, i did the same thing for my mogul, 2 batterys will get you through it.
i actually have not found a problem with my touch's battery life yet. it lasts all day for me with a constant data connection and some web browsing and phone calls. using opera 9.5, btw, its the only way to browse on the touch
I will be purchasing one soon, but i see alot of problems! Is this just because no one posts "everything is good" and most posts are just going to be "mine broke"?
including, leds/trackball light, broken pixels, screen gap etc
also is there any thing in common between the broken ones? Ex mostly white ones are breaking
and does htc offer a warranty at all?, i found the hero for 580 usd w/ free shipping but no return policy/warranty...this is scaring me!
Should i get white with teflon coating or brown which i sort of like more?
also i plan on rooting the hero, and i want to be clear on if you can put it back to normal after rooting if i have to return to htc.
one last thing, a few posts said "mine died"... is this totally dead? will they be able to see if it was rooted in this case?
Sorry for the long post!
ps, please post color and (maybe model number???) and if its broken or not
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I will be purchasing one soon, but i see alot of problems! Is this just because no one posts "everything is good" and most posts are just going to be "mine broke"?
including, leds/trackball light, broken pixels, screen gap etc
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Mine is an unlocked HTC-branded brown one. No hardware problems so far (2 weeks).
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also is there any thing in common between the broken ones? Ex mostly white ones are breaking
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Problems with build-quality (screen gap) seems isolated to some batches of operator-branded phones.
xsirhc6x said:
and does htc offer a warranty at all?, i found the hero for 580 usd w/ free shipping but no return policy/warranty...this is scaring me!
Should i get white with teflon coating or brown which i sort of like more?
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The brown one also has a rubbery-like surface. Not sure if its teflon, but its definitely not the usual hard&glossy surface that most phones have.
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also i plan on rooting the hero, and i want to be clear on if you can put it back to normal after rooting if i have to return to htc.
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It shouldn't be a problem. I'd also expect HTC to reload a "known good image" on any returned phone before they run any form of diagnostics test.
thanks very much!
No problems with mine either..going on two weeks, white unlocked from clove.co.uk.
No problem here
all good here... lovin my hero!!!
Mine is still perfectly fine - no issues with build/hardware at all.
personally
before i bought my htc hero
i read reviews
most of them having a go at this n that and forums complaining about broken this n that
personally and through experience
reviews are just dumb they pick out on anything and everything i suppose thats what reviews are for but some of the stuff ive read on hero are really lame
and broken hardware etc comes to one result
people not taking care of the phones ive had me hero for some time theres nothing on it not even a scratch tried scratching the screen and back with a key no marks
its a good robust phone
it wont let you down
shaji007 said:
personally
before i bought my htc hero
i read reviews
most of them having a go at this n that and forums complaining about broken this n that
personally and through experience
reviews are just dumb they pick out on anything and everything i suppose thats what reviews are for but some of the stuff ive read on hero are really lame
and broken hardware etc comes to one result
people not taking care of the phones ive had me hero for some time theres nothing on it not even a scratch tried scratching the screen and back with a key no marks
its a good robust phone
it wont let you down
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well i just have to point out something. I bought my phone a week ago and till a few days ago, me too i thought that i was a happy hero owner until i read issues about the led thing and checked my phone. I do not know if i have the headphone prob as i never checked it out. What i want to say is that some issues are present and you wont notice them unless u pay attention to them.
Do u want to say that gap issues between the screen and more than 30 ppl complaining about issues with led,trackball and headphones ( probably more but some of us do not know it yet) are due to the fact that we dont take care of our phones????
I'm gonna jump right in, and just say. i've had my hero for 2 weeks and loving it.
This is my first android phone, so I took a little getting used to, think the missus is getting fed up with me checking forums and stuff. But all in all I am extremly happy with my Hero.
I use it everyday for:
E-mail
Facebook
Calls
Messages
USB Modem
Surfing
RSS
Podcasts
Performs better than my Ipod Touch ever did, and I almost never have to hook it up to the laptop... Loving IT!
so far mine works fine (1 week). the gap is a problem with some branded phones but mine (T-Mobile Germany "2G Touch") has no gap. the problems with the headphones and LED seem to be software related, since there is a workaround to manually activate the headphone again.
oh and BTW I <3 Hero. best phone i ever had.
got 2 on first release from orange (graphite), 6 weeks ago, 1 for me and 1 for me gf.
no screen gap issues, no dead pixels on arrival, but i had one appear after 2 weeks, right down bottom right of phone, extremely small and never notice it at all unless im on dead pixel detect.
gfs phone hasnt any dead pixels as of yet.
not a single other problem like leds or headphones.
2 totally happy customers here.
Totally happy with mine, no hardware problems so far.
Best phone I've ever had especially with how much I
Like to mess with stuff.
I was happy only one day. If I use longer (about 10 min) my Hero screen starts flashing. If I make reset, everything is ok for some period. I hope it's not serious problem.
I had the LED issue for a while, but just updated to the new rom, and they are back, so this could be a software, not hardware issue
Oh, and love love love the phone
I have read many posts saying that the new ROM update will fix LED and Headphone jack issues.
I just bought a phone on eBay myself, haven't had the chance to play around with it too much since I need to change my plan beforehand, but I have turned it on and look around and everything is fine. It is a White Unlocked one. I must say, the Teflon coating is like nothing I've ever felt before on a phone, it just makes it feel like a million bucks!
But besides the color, which is up to you, I would say get the phone! There is always a 1 year manufacturer warranty, even if the seller doesn't offer you one of their own.
An official HTC update will be coming out VERY soon if you don't like the idea of loading up a custom ROM (although it is highly recommended as there are added quirks such as root access).
Yes, I fall under the category of running with HTC's original velcrow case and having the phone fly into the air in complete slow motion and then sliding screen faced down.
For the past month or so I have been looking for the stock housing but I seem to hit a dead end...UNTIL TODAY!
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My question for you fine people....is it legit? Has anybody bought/tried this specific housing on their Sprint TP?
Thanks in advance.
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Yes, I fall under the category of running with HTC's original velcrow case and having the phone fly into the air in complete slow motion and then sliding screen faced down.
For the past month or so I have been looking for the stock housing but I seem to hit a dead end...UNTIL TODAY!
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My question for you fine people....is it legit? Has anybody bought/tried this specific housing on their Sprint TP?
Thanks in advance.
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Well, it also says they are out of stock, and minimum order is 2. Might have better luck on ebay, or ask a Sprint store if they have an extra demo.
Demo or Dummy phones don't work for parts any more. they look like the phone from the outside now, but they are totally different inside and have no provisions to put real phone insides into them. The last dummy phones to actually be able to be used as parts was in the days of the HTC Apache/PPC-6700, HTC Wizard/MDA, or any other phones of that time frame, any phones newer than that have been change to not be used for parts like the Mogul/PPC-6800, HTC Herald/T-Mo Wing, or HTC Juno/T-Mo Shadow. I know cause I used to fix phones using the dummy phones as parts to get them looking new again. Most if not all dummy phones are like this now, even regular phones like Motorolas and such.
Nawwwwww, the Sprint stores here have no input about housings.
Hello all,
I'm trying to decide between the Amaze and the SGII from Telus, and the most important thing to me is the size of the keys and how well both work in landscape mode. I have large hands, and I will be doing a lot of texting and e-mailing from my phone as I do use my phones as business tools as well. It doesn't matter that one might have a slightly better camera than the other, or that one is a slightly superior movie viewing experience. I have always had physical keyboards, so it will take some getting used to lifting my thumbs between each keystroke already.
The dealers around where I live have all been reluctant to let me see both side by side, but it seems to me that the Amaze, despite being a smaller screen, actually has larger keys in landscape mode. Is anyone able to confirm this? Thanks to any that can shed light on this.
Telus dealer's should have no problem letting you see them side by side. At first they didn't want to let me handle either one of them but when I told them that I'm not about to sign a 3 year contract without looking at what I'm getting they agreed and allowed me to play with both.
As to your question, it seems to me that the Telus keyboard is bigger and easier to manage, but since that wasn't the focus of what I was looking at, I'm just going from (a rather poor) memory. I'd go back to a store and TELL them you want to see both phones.
Yeah the Telus I went to they let me try out the Amaze. They got one from the back that wasn't connected to anything. They just handed it to me and left me alone to play with it. I could have just ran out with a working phone. I compared the two but I never tried landscape. I would think the Samsung has a bigger keyboard because the screen is bigger, the resolution is lower so things are stretched out more.
i just got my amaze from telus (upgrading from desire hd) and i notice a HUGE difference in the ease of the keyboard. number 1 the duel core makes it keep up as i type fast, unlike the ****ty 1ghrtz on the DHD which wud be a bit behind, and the letters blow up a bit bigger to i think cause im finding it MUCH easier to type on the amaze. oh ya the swipe keyboard is awesome to once you get the hang of it
Thanks for the info guys. For some reason they always put one away before taking the other one out. Maybe I look like I'm going to take one and run out, guess I'll have to be more insistent.
I also noticed that the Samsung's keyboard doesn't have a comma, that you have to go to the # screen to get to it. I'm guessing that I'll be able to find one on the market that has it.
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Thanks for the info guys. For some reason they always put one away before taking the other one out. Maybe I look like I'm going to take one and run out, guess I'll have to be more insistent.
I also noticed that the Samsung's keyboard doesn't have a comma, that you have to go to the # screen to get to it. I'm guessing that I'll be able to find one on the market that has it.
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Are you sure the comma isn't somewhere on the keyboard above one of the other letters? I know that at first on the Amaze keyboard I was going into the # screen to get to the question mark, then I realized that I can press and hold the "k" to get the question mark. Samsung may be similar. Have a look.
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Are you sure the comma isn't somewhere on the keyboard above one of the other letters? I know that at first on the Amaze keyboard I was going into the # screen to get to the question mark, then I realized that I can press and hold the "k" to get the question mark. Samsung may be similar. Have a look.
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There probably is one that's a long press, I meant a dedicated key without having to resort to a long press. Guess it's just one of those things I'm going to get used to coming from a physical keyboard.
Oh, and thanks for mentioning the question mark. Now I'm going to obsess about looking for an easy way to get to that
sixfoot7 said:
There probably is one that's a long press, I meant a dedicated key without having to resort to a long press. Guess it's just one of those things I'm going to get used to coming from a physical keyboard.
Oh, and thanks for mentioning the question mark. Now I'm going to obsess about looking for an easy way to get to that
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Coming from a physical keyboard can be difficult. I came from a physical keyboard (samsung slide) to touch on the Hero. I never really got used to it on that phone. The keys were so small even in landscape. I'm finding a huge difference with the Amaze. Way easier on the bigger screen.
I'm hoping the larger keys will make the transition. Thanks for your input. I see you're from the greatest city in the world (yes I'm a Surrey boy). It was the Apex in Langley, and the Telus store by the WalMart on 64th that didn't want me to see both at the same time.
I went to Best Buy and they let me see both side by side after a little coaxing. And yeah....I'm not too proud to admit I'm from Surrey. Not all of us are riot crashers.
Went back to Apex, finally got someone to show me both. The SGII's landscape keyboard is bigger than the Amaze's, about 3x2 mm bigger. Enough of a difference for me. In portrait mode, not even close, the SGII's was about 20% larger. Might actually be useable for me and my monster hands. The Amaze's camera was definitely better, but I was surprised to see some shooting modes missing that the T-mo version has.
I'd be happy with either, I'm sure, but I have to go with the SGII for the larger keyboards. Thanks to those who lent their input, I appreciate it.
Amaze Keyboard
Just thought I'd suggest the "Gingerbread Keyboard" from Steven Lin on the market.
Honestly one of the best keyboards I've ever used, coming from the MT4G.
Haven't had a chance to try it on the Amaze but will do sometime soon.
Let me know if you like it any better or if it even works on the Amaze.
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Just thought I'd suggest the "Gingerbread Keyboard" from Steven Lin on the market.
Honestly one of the best keyboards I've ever used, coming from the MT4G.
Haven't had a chance to try it on the Amaze but will do sometime soon.
Let me know if you like it any better or if it even works on the Amaze.
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I had a look at that keyboard on my Amaze and it actually makes the keys smaller. Particularly in portrait. The bonus to that keyboard though is the addition of a row along the top with all the punctuation. That is a useful feature. Too bad it was added at the expense of key size.
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I had a look at that keyboard on my Amaze and it actually makes the keys smaller. Particularly in portrait. The bonus to that keyboard though is the addition of a row along the top with all the punctuation. That is a useful feature. Too bad it was added at the expense of key size.
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Oh really? That sucks. =( I do like that keyboard a lot.
Been using it for a year already on my MT4G. I do love the punctuation though.
The word selection comes easier for me too. Auto correct I mean.
I also like that after selecting a word it automatically spaces for me to start
typing my next word. And spacing twice puts a period. Holding enter brings up smiley faces. The list goes on. I may install on my Amaze anyway and see how I like it.
Thanks for the feedback though.
I don't have my device yet as I have Verizon, but for anyone who does have one on another carrier, I was wondering if you could answer two quick questions.
With the stock Rom, does the screen have a translation from on to off, or does it just go black? Specifically, in CM7 when the screen goes into standby and shuts off the display, you see the old tube television quickly fade to the line in the center of the screen animation.
Secondly is there a way on the stock Rom to change from "Bars" to "dBm" on the notification bar?
I think its too much to ask if it warns you of Dragons Ahead, so I won't even ask that one. : )
I know I can put CM9 on the GS3, and will probably eventually do so, but for the first few months I really want to keep it virgin. Root/Bloat Freeze for sure, but stock everything else on the phone. I would remove the apps instead of freezing them, but I have a feeling this phone will get updated soon and I don't want to deal with any nonsense due to missing default apps.
This will be my first Samsung phone, and just like I did with HTC Sense and MotoSlow, I want to give TouchWiz a test run and get familiar with their home interface. I am going to really miss dBm instead of those useless signal bars. I am pretty sure ANYONE who has EVER used a cellphone can tell you "Bars are Bull****". At least with dBm you get a slightly better idea of whats going on with your signal. The old time tube translation is something I grew up with seeing tube tv's, and loved on my cellphone in CM7. It would be creepy to see the screen just go black, that's not right. Dragons Ahead makes me smile every time and think of a time past where tv's shut off properly.
There was no screen off animation on my international version when I got it, and there was no way to get a DBM reading in the status bar, sorry
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There was no screen off animation on my international version when I got it, and there was no way to get a DBM reading in the status bar, sorry
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Thanks for the info. I guess it will be something I just deal with till I get to know TouchWiz. In a few months I will be using CM9 anyway.
Thalinor said:
Thanks for the info. I guess it will be something I just deal with till I get to know TouchWiz. In a few months I will be using CM9 anyway.
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CM9 on the international version is awesome good luck with your phone when you get it!
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Thank you! It just sucks what US carriers are doing to this device. Apparently now I am hearing they removed the FM radio from all US SG3's because it had a recording feature. Typical BS where Corporate America spends all its time on its knees blowing the RIAA/MPAA.
Not sure if they just removed the apk or the hardware too. Still waiting to here back from someone, but the FM radio is confirmed not to be on T-Mobile and Sprint. No word on AT&T or Verizon.
I own TuneIn Pro, and have only used the FM radio twice on my DX but it's a matter of principle. US versions of this phone have been completely dumb down and are being priced much higher than their European counterparts. I'm really getting sick of that ****. I can't wait to the ignorant people live in my country wake up and start realizing that capitalistic corporate America needs their ass handed to them for the way they have been acting over the past 10 years. It's always been bad and not exclusively here in the US, but over the past 10 years things have really gotten out of control.
Edit: Proof in point. I just read on the T-Mobile forums people were defending the company for not including it because they said it would've raised the cost of the device. Maybe those stupid ignorant T-Mobile users should realize that T-Mobile in UK is offering the phone for free, while T-Mobile in the United States has the highest prices of any carrier for this device. Pay more for less that's the American way .