So how about that playstation phone likely getting a gingy? Whos gonna be grabbing among x10 folks the "Playstation Phone"?
Thoughts, concerns?
Link at engadget, I don't think I'm allowed links yet
EDIT: Thanks pngface for the link!
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Here it is: http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/26/the-playstation-phone/
hmmm no thanks prefer my PSP and my 2 PS3 xD
Never suffering from the hands of sony again after this phone.
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Whoa...that looks unreal. Damn you SE!! Luring us with more state of the art hardware that will inevitably fail due to your incompetent software!
i'll def pick one up.. it will look good next to my collection. two fat psp's one slim. one psp go. and my x1 and my x10.... muwahhaaaaaaa
Oh great. At the back of my head I know sony will find a way to cripple this device. But I'm hoping they don't.
And give more money to SE and their incapable software developers/management team?
No way...
great....another nail in the coffin for the x10
killerskincanoe said:
i'll def pick one up.. it will look good next to my collection. two fat psp's one slim. one psp go. and my x1 and my x10.... muwahhaaaaaaa
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you seriously consider getting one?
haven't you learned from SE android phones? just PS family worths buying cause the software is good
if they release a vanilla version of android then it'll be win im quite sure
they cant afford to screw the software up this time lolol
If it has Timescape and locked bootloader definitely not. If it has vanilla android and locked bootloader maybe. If it has unlocked bootloader then absof#@$nglutely.
I want to get this!!!
they should get rid of the physical buttons (menu, back, home, and ect...)
why not give the ram up to 1gb? battery waste?
Wow, that thing is UGLY! SE phones are generally pretty, definitely needs a makeover!
I am sure it will end up like nokia n-gage phones, down the tube...
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for now, that just looks like another SE phone w/ PSP control sticks, 1MHz microSD and android 3, unless the thing can boot itself up separately from android i'm not sure how it would qualify as a playstation device being backwrd compatible and all that
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Wow, that thing is UGLY! SE phones are generally pretty, definitely needs a makeover!
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I don't think that design is something which SE did .. i must be a concept of how the phone will be (done by who knows??) since u cane see that the home icon, menu icon are just not "SE".....
Moreover if they release at the same time as the did with x10, it mat not be a problem as long as it runs in gingerbread. BUT if they release it by the Q3(end of Q3 as SE keeps everything to the end) then it might flop!!
Moreover wait for 2 months after the release, so u can read all the complaints of the phone pasted on every blog related to smartphones!!
AFTER ALL, this is the age of technology, in every two months something pops up one better than the other!! if we have the money we can for it all !!! Otherwise be satisfied with we have!!!
even though its too early to comment ...
but that device will come with ginger bread installed ? when we paid a lot to get thier flagship only to depend upon them to give a meager 2.1
thats ridiculous
anyway i will never buy it.. more over i cant spend soo much , i am happy with PS3 right now.. and any gaming on the move ? i have my x10 with angry bird \m/ Peace
That's a prototype, even the hard keys are not "SE" final product should look better ,knowing SE. With all the flack they are getting in their product blog they cant even afford not to give the X10 2.2 after 2.1,they simply cant, what im guessing is that the PSP Phone and X10 will coexsist, X10 will get 2.2 and then the PSP Phone will come in rocking Gingerbread to bring some differentiation.
No more SE ****.... Never!
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just talked to SE Norway, about update release, q3 here too but no official date.
BUT we came into talking about custom roms and stuff (dunno why)
and he said the main reason for making it as tricky and not sharing anything, is because they want their own dev's working on it...
wtf? is this guy a loose canon from se support, or have they actually tried blocking "you" out..?
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just talked to SE Norway, about update release, q3 here too but no official date.
BUT we came into talking about custom roms and stuff (dunno why)
and he said the main reason for making it as tricky and not sharing anything, is because they want their own dev's working on it...
wtf? is this guy a loose canon from se support, or have they actually tried blocking "you" out..?
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Sorry what are you on about?
Are you saying that SE have blocked access to the Roms, so that SE devs(the guys who work on SE roms) can try and crack their own Roms?
Your post doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm confused...... .com....
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Sorry what are you on about?
Are you saying that SE have blocked access to the Roms, so that SE devs(the guys who work on SE roms) can try and crack their own Roms?
Your post doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm confused...... .com....
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I think what he meant is that they've locked down the bootloader so that only the SE devs can work on it. They're not interested in letting the community do any work on it.
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I think what he meant is that they've locked down the bootloader so that only the SE devs can work on it. They're not interested in letting the community do any work on it.
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That's what I understood from the OP as well.
I'd be fine with that stance if SE actually supported their product with new development, but they don't seem to have much interest in doing so, if the 6-month wait for part of 2.1 and no official plan for 2.2 is any indication.
If they're not willing to support their products, then they should allow the community to do it.
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I think what he meant is that they've locked down the bootloader so that only the SE devs can work on it. They're not interested in letting the community do any work on it.
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Aah sorry, my bad. They're w*****s.
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SE are thinking in business terms. X10 is not bad in terms of hardware. So to sell X11 or whatever they come up with, they'll probably advertise as Froyo device to grab people.
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SE are thinking in business terms. X10 is not bad in terms of hardware. So to sell X11 or whatever they come up with, they'll probably advertise as Froyo device to grab people.
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That's fine in the short-term, but their stunting their long-term growth (which is what they should be looking at... especially after stating they want to be the #1 Android manufacturer) by alienating their current users. If they don't support their products, people won't come back to when replacement time comes. This goes on for long enough, and word spreads so new customers shy away from their products due to poor reputation.
Just ask GM how well this philosophy works on the long-term.
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I think what he meant is that they've locked down the bootloader so that only the SE devs can work on it. They're not interested in letting the community do any work on it.
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yes, thats what i meant, and don't that kind of go against the open source concept`?
sorry i made it unclear first post, didnt thing i did...
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yes, thats what i meant, and don't that kind of go against the open source concept`?
sorry i made it unclear first post, didnt thing i did...
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I agree, it goes against everything Android should be about. Android is supposed to be open and an interesting place for us hackers. That was partof the idea when it was started; to be more open than iOS and Symbian.
But SE also has the right to keep it locked down the way they do. They're not interested in either the open source movement or even Google. They're interested in making money and for that they picked Android since it's the best OS they can use. And if you're only after selling phones then having the community mess around with the phone isn't an advantage.
The fact that we can't do what we please with the phone sucks but SE has all the right in the world to do so. It's something I knew when I bought it, if I wanted a phone I could hack the software in I would've gotten myself an HTC phone or the Nexus One.
I'm completely satisfied with my phone, it works great for that. Anything else like an open bootloader or custom ROMs are just bonuses.
That's true, even though I don't like to admit it...
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I agree, it goes against everything Android should be about. Android is supposed to be open and an interesting place for us hackers. That was partof the idea when it was started; to be more open than iOS and Symbian.
But SE.. ...it works great for that. Anything else like an open bootloader or custom ROMs are just bonuses.
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yes was aware of every aspect of the phone, and while i trust SE to have good devs on it, and im sure it will be just fine, it already is really.
but to actually pay dev's for "locking"(yeah i know, for all you spell checkers its not locked in that sense) an os that promotes it self by beeing free and open, i mean seriously, thats just.. yeah..
but love the phone...
t- mye styr under det svenske valget i år:O
Guys, you're forgetting it's all a conspiracy against american phone users.LOL
Considering US and Canadian consumers aren't spending any money at the moment, SE's strategy is appropriate.
SE's totally being Samsung with the whole support/update issue..
most ppl say oh don't get a samsung phone cuz in 2 mth, they are just gonna come out with a better phone than yours and stop supporting ur phone and it will be garbage..
and look at what SE's doing now..
actually.. ppl who went with sgs have it better now i guess.. at least they are getting timely updates. .and froyo.. i guess they are stepping up to be a better company (not by much.. but still)
come on SE, stop fxxing around
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SE's totally being Samsung with the whole support/update issue..
most ppl say oh don't get a samsung phone cuz in 2 mth, they are just gonna come out with a better phone than yours and stop supporting ur phone and it will be garbage..
and look at what SE's doing now..
actually.. ppl who went with sgs have it better now i guess.. at least they are getting timely updates. .and froyo.. i guess they are stepping up to be a better company (not by much.. but still)
come on SE, stop fxxing around
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yeah, but 2.1 doesn't look as good on a ugly ass samsung
mayamo said:
SE's totally being Samsung with the whole support/update issue..
most ppl say oh don't get a samsung phone cuz in 2 mth, they are just gonna come out with a better phone than yours and stop supporting ur phone and it will be garbage..
and look at what SE's doing now..
actually.. ppl who went with sgs have it better now i guess.. at least they are getting timely updates. .and froyo.. i guess they are stepping up to be a better company (not by much.. but still)
come on SE, stop fxxing around
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Well !! Now Samsung has got there own problems !!
http://www.gsmarena.com/froyo_update_for_samsung_i9000_galaxy_s_delayed_until_october-news-1948.php
I am waiting for the devs !!
yeah but that's a FROYO update in october..
apparently SE's postponing out ECLAIR update to the end of october... u know what that means..
Perhaps asking SE devs for help could work. Not for inside info or anything but perhaps we could work out a deal. The market for custom ROM's is minimal it wouldn't impact their profit margins in any way, it's not like everyone would use the feature.
Here's my reasoning:
It's safe to assume that the devs over there have a similar mindset to our own, they're hackers. Perhaps we could work out a deal where we could get fastboot and the ability to flash unsigned stuff in exchange for something like voiding the warranty or perhaps even signing an NDA or the like.
It's optimistic but at this point it feels like we have nothing to lose. Appealing to their developers might just work, they're human after all.
Any thoughts?
I say we find one that is wiling to give us the test 2.1 rom or the info on how to crack the bootloader and pay him, create a thread like the bounty for the devs but for a dev of SE or a person with the 2.1 rom. I am sure a lot of people will pay $10-$20 and well get a few thousand quite fast. If i was an SE dev and someone offered me $2000-$3000 for the info on cracking the bootloader i would surely find a way to leak it anonymously or somthing like that.
Hint: check LinkedIn for former SE software developers
These are great ideas, guys! I don't know who to ask for help though...
Surely this would be a big FU in SE face if they managed it before the proper update probably wouldn't have mattered before but after the past weeks eagerness and then the usual bombshell from SE I think it would be great lol
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Surely this would be a big FU in SE face if they managed it before the proper update probably wouldn't have mattered before but after the past weeks eagerness and then the usual bombshell from SE I think it would be great lol
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To be honest I think it's what they deserve.
From a marketing point of view, they are ****ed.
I too would love to see this happen
They ****ed us on the X1 and blamed HTC. Made big promises for the X2, we got ****ed even harder then. Now the X10!
Well at least my X10 is functional, not like the X2 I had before this. That was a pile of crap, a beautiful pile of crap... but still crap!
Yeah, hopefully someone cracks the bootloader soon!
This is my first SE phone (X10) since the old SE phones.. My question is.. Why do people like to continue getting EFF'd by Sony from X1 to X2 to X10?!??!
I learned my lesson after the X10.. Last time I ever give in to the brand, without doing my research first.
Sony Ericsson is playing there cards wrong. And, as a result? Lost MANY Potential and "loyal" customers from before.
Good thing i'm not on a contract with this phone!!
I would rather wait for the bootloader to be cracked by the devs anyway, they can take the updates and get better drivers other than that I think we would probably have to wait till october 2011 for froyo alone by SE. But by then I would of sold my phone for scrap metal and got an HTC ^^
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I would rather wait for the bootloader to be cracked by the devs anyway, they can take the updates and get better drivers other than that I think we would probably have to wait till october 2011 for froyo alone by SE. But by then I would of sold my phone for scrap metal and got an HTC ^^
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Same goes for me, i would wait for the devs, what they do in there spare time for us is beyond anything that the SE devs can do in bringing us the best/newest firmware for the X10. Oh and as for 2011 for froyo that wont happen, i forgot where i read it but SE has said somewhere that 2.1 is the last firmware for the X10 series phones. If however we are able to get froyo as an update, SE would most likely cripple it again like they are doing to eclair as we speak and take out all the new features that comes with the update and only give us the number that shows up before the firmware version.
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This is my first SE phone (X10) since the old SE phones.. My question is.. Why do people like to continue getting EFF'd by Sony from X1 to X2 to X10?!??!
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The x1 was by far one of my favourite phones I've ever used, only after using cooked ROMS from xda, I can see the x10 being one of the best Android based phones but only when it gets the same xda treatment.
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I too would love to see this happen
They ****ed us on the X1 and blamed HTC. Made big promises for the X2, we got ****ed even harder then. Now the X10!
Well at least my X10 is functional, not like the X2 I had before this. That was a pile of crap, a beautiful pile of crap... but still crap!
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I wonder out who where the artist that singed the song "Shame on you if you fool me once, shame on me if you fooled me twice"...
And for SE being *****... 4chan... operation... bayback... is a *****...
(and yea, im kidding)
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I would rather wait for the bootloader to be cracked by the devs anyway, they can take the updates and get better drivers other than that I think we would probably have to wait till october 2011 for froyo alone by SE. But by then I would of sold my phone for scrap metal and got an HTC ^^
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There's no certainty that we will ever get a cracked bootloader, from SE's perspective; they don't have to stop the bootloader getting cracked forever, just 6~12 months by which time the phone will superseded by newer models and people will loose interest in cracking it as they move on to newer phones. If you look at the dev thread signatures you will see that a lot of them have already got newer devices. What do you think are the chances of them getting another X10 if one gets bricked? Natural attrition will eat away at our dev community unless a hack is found SOON and a homebrew scene springs up around the X10. It's not like X10 is an Apple product and cracking it will get you media attention / notoriety.
I'm sticking with my X10 for now, but I'm not optimistic.
My 2c.
yeah if its happen all x10 users will respect xda devz
All we can do is hope that we get a cracked 2.2
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i think it wont be so fast till they crack the bootloader,there is very slow progress or none,i hope things will change when 2,1 comes out,maybe things will get easier..
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yeah if its happen all x10 users will respect xda devz
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They should already respect them for how hard they work and how many hours they put into this!
I doubt I'm going to get another SE phone after this.
I'm planning on jumping onto the HTC Desire HD bandwagon.. But I'll still have to wait atleast a year to save up enough money to afford it (University is killing me in loans).. Till then.. I'm stuck with this piece of ****!
Is anyone actually working on it though?
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Is anyone actually working on it though?
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They should already respect them for how hard they work and how many hours they put into this!
I doubt I'm going to get another SE phone after this.
I'm planning on jumping onto the HTC Desire HD bandwagon.. But I'll still have to wait atleast a year to save up enough money to afford it (University is killing me in loans).. Till then.. I'm stuck with this piece of ****!
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Yeah look at the dev thread...
The HD Desire HD is a great looking phone thinking the same myself but in a years time when im looking to buy something else there will probably be some 2ghz beasts lol
Official update on Xperia X10 to Gingerbread
Now I like my phone
blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia%E2%84%A2-x10/
As you can see in the above text,we have an official announecement from the SE. Well,what a nice way to start a day
I'm actually shocked. And very pleased. Glad I stuck with my phone
FroYo is good, but Gingerbread is better.
Wowww.....Oh mY God..So Happy...Thank SE..hahaha..Now we love SE..
If it is true would be great.
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sounds good, but they´ll delay it and then postpone it to q4! by then every other phone will have os 2.4, so were always gonna be behind!!
Not believing anything until i see it for myself!
Woohoo! Thats nice news
but still it is a great step forward since the "no update beyond 2.1" statement. Well,at least we know that they are reading the forums
What it means by this "DRM keys for protected content on your phone will be lost in the upgrade process." Bootloader will be opened??
Ok, I'm fell like a clown 2 times now...
awesome ,, gr8 news
But why its going to be in Q3 ??
That was the dumbest part ..
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nope. They mean DRM protected audio and video
Late q2/early q3 woohoo! Hopefully they just set expectations later but truly get it sooner. Any word on bootloader?
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even if they postpone it, this is still good news. i'm now contemplating on whether i should hold on to my x10 a little longer or upgrade to one of their new line of products coming out next month...
LMAO by quarter 3 I will be preparing to upgrade.
I think it is more a case of too little too late.
SE have stated internally that bootloaders will be unlocked for future phones.
If this includes newer phones as arc, neo and play is let aside atm since I
havent got this part confirmed.
But according to some guys, this unlocking part might apply for all models in
a future upgrade. Still slightly fuzzy expression but yes, SE will stop locking
phones. Hope this will apply for all current models also.
Anyhow, grats to all who gets GB
Finally SE listen!!! Didnt expect this from them but i am happy!!! pleasantly surprised as well
woohhoohoow!!! Good news, but q3...
Much to late... Noone needs it by Q3
I have a white unranded Xperia S and have still not recieved the generic .73 update.... Has anyone else yet? Why is this taking so long? Its been out for over a month in singapore and nothing yet in the UK on unbranded Xperia S devices.... I used to have a HTC Desire which got timely updates.
Not impressed. It feels like all Sony have done is re brand Sony/Ericsson who used to be shocking for stuff like this.
Positive thinking, maybe they skip .73 and go for ICS.
I gave up. If you're itching to try one of the .73 FWs, just get one from the Dev section and flash it. You don't need to unlock the bootloader unless you want a prerooted one.
Sony UK really dropped the ball on this one, I think.
Sorry guys, I really dont mean to sound so negative. Its a fantastic phone and in all honesty so far its been great apart from battery life. I know the .73 firmware addresses this.
I really dont want to Root my phone etc just so I can get the firmware. I think Sony should have released it in the UK, my thinking is maybe Sony has not released it because ICS is just around the corner. If not that im not happy at all.
Look at the Playstation 3 and Playstation Vita. They update those devices fast, ok I know its not a Phone but maybe Sonys mobile devision could learn a thing or two from their games console devision.
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Sorry guys, I really dont mean to sound so negative. Its a fantastic phone and in all honesty so far its been great apart from battery life. I know the .73 firmware addresses this.
I really dont want to Root my phone etc just so I can get the firmware. I think Sony should have released it in the UK, my thinking is maybe Sony has not released it because ICS is just around the corner. If not that im not happy at all.
Look at the Playstation 3 and Playstation Vita. They update those devices fast, ok I know its not a Phone but maybe Sonys mobile devision could learn a thing or two from their games console devision.
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Flashtool a stock firmware from another region. You can do that without unlocking bootloader.
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I suppose the question he is asking is ' if the .73 update improves something as fundamental as battery life, then why oh why have Sony mobile UK refused to release it especially when it's available for branded kits. It just brings back bad memories of the X10 and we hoped all that was history now.
I personally believe the phone should never have been released with gingerbread. I just cannot understand the reasoning behind this move and I'm sorry Sony are just add guilty as Ericsson for this. Rebranding or not.
A phone that could have really taken off once again has been given a handicap by very poor executive decision making. Again a throw back to the x10 days. If ICS wasn't ready by the proposed launch date then they should have delayed the launch rather than releasing the phone with software that the community doesn't care about anymore.
It just shows that the company, Sony included, just haven't got it that android sells these phone and not the stuff they do no matter how good that might be.
A shame because the phone despite its cheaper price is in my opinion currently the best thing on the market.
The big retailers like amazon and play have just refused Sony's recommended retail price of £460 because of the poor poor performance of the phones released last year. Who can blame them. The xperia s will just have to clean up the sales mess left behind by the arc, play, and all the other ridiculous devices they flooded the market with last year.
It beggars belief that Sony should find themselves in any way shape or form competing with HTC, Samsung, and the other Korean and Chinese manufacturers.
On a hardware level despite its older CPU, the xperia is much quicker than all others which proves the point that when it comes to electronics, made in Japan is better than made in Korea, Taiwan, and China. No offence to the rest but the Taiwanese and Chinese are still very much up and coming.
What they do however is understand the android community much better than Sony.
Sony seem to think we are like apple consumers which couldn't be further from the truth. There in lies their problem.
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Hi K900, thanks for the reply but I would rather use official update channels which for some reason have not happened in the UK. A bit of a silly move considering the Xperia S is selling bucket loads in the UK at the moment.
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I suppose the question he is asking is ' if the .73 update improves something as fundamental as battery life, then why oh why have Sony mobile UK refused to release it especially when it's available for branded kits. It just brings back bad memories of the X10 and we hoped all that was history now.
I personally believe the phone should never have been released with gingerbread. I just cannot understand the reasoning behind this move and I'm sorry Sony are just add guilty as Ericsson for this. Rebranding or not.
A phone that could have really taken off once again has been given a handicap by very poor executive decision making. Again a throw back to the x10 days. If ICS wasn't ready by the proposed launch date then they should have delayed the launch rather than releasing the phone with software that the community doesn't care about anymore.
It just shows that the company, Sony included, just haven't got it that android sells these phone and not the stuff they do no matter how good that might be.
A shame because the phone despite its cheaper price is in my opinion currently the best thing on the market.
The big retailers like amazon and play have just refused Sony's recommended retail price of £460 because of the poor poor performance of the phones released last year. Who can blame them. The xperia s will just have to clean up the sales mess left behind by the arc, play, and all the other ridiculous devices they flooded the market with last year.
It beggars belief that Sony should find themselves in any way shape or form competing with HTC, Samsung, and the other Korean and Chinese manufacturers.
On a hardware level despite its older CPU, the xperia is much quicker than all others which proves the point that when it comes to electronics, made in Japan is better than made in Korea, Taiwan, and China. No offence to the rest but the Taiwanese and Chinese are still very much up and coming.
What they do however is understand the android community much better than Sony.
Sony seem to think we are like apple consumers which couldn't be further from the truth. There in lies their problem.
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Yes I agree it seems very illogical. I came from a HTC Desire which had some really fast updates and Sony to me seems highly odd, considering the .73 firmware fixes battery issues.
The phone has taken of by the way, its selling very well across the world but Sony could help by releasing firmware that its possibly very important to everyone.
As for the processor and the Phone it was all designed in europe including the processors and stuff. All sony did was remove the ericsson moniker and make then use better hardware.
ICS is apparently out as early as a week away, if your phone is locked down to a network it maybe longer due to bloatware. This may not happen but reading stuff on here and twitter its looking very likely. Android versions arnt what sells a phone the most to consumers, its the screen, the design of the Phone, the camera and yea im sure the Android version helps but its not a huge thing. I really hope this is just a bedding in period with Ericsson now being trained how to make Sony phones properly.
I think its a fantastic phone and with the correct leadership from Sony could be bigger yet (sales).
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Sorry guys, I really dont mean to sound so negative. Its a fantastic phone and in all honesty so far its been great apart from battery life. I know the .73 firmware addresses this.
I really dont want to Root my phone etc just so I can get the firmware. I think Sony should have released it in the UK, my thinking is maybe Sony has not released it because ICS is just around the corner. If not that im not happy at all.
Look at the Playstation 3 and Playstation Vita. They update those devices fast, ok I know its not a Phone but maybe Sonys mobile devision could learn a thing or two from their games console devision.
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I've flashed a .73 firmware version and I have to say that I'm not really noticing a major difference in battery life. Granted, yes it's better but by like an hour or something silly like that...personally if I were you I'd just wait it out a couple more months...
Sony mobile UK is in complete limbo..
BTW I flashed to NL .73. Its preety good.
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Sony mobile UK is in complete limbo..
BTW I flashed to NL .73. Its preety good.
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You say that but the battery drain while using it is still poor....
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You say that but the battery drain while using it is still poor....
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I have seen people say its great and others who say it is not....
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You say that but the battery drain while using it is still poor....
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The ONE X is also bad to be honest though...
Pretty poor on Sony's part to leave a simple firmware update hanging in a region.
Hopefully this all means ICS is just around the corner.
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I have seen people say its great and others who say it is not....
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I think it's more down to the user than anything...personally as someone who isnt a frequent user of their phone (mainly due to the fact that I use a tab), I find it quite disappointing how quick the battery drains...even in standby mode.
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Yes I agree it seems very illogical. I came from a HTC Desire which had some really fast updates and Sony to me seems highly odd, considering the .73 firmware fixes battery issues.
The phone has taken of by the way, its selling very well across the world but Sony could help by releasing firmware that its possibly very important to everyone.
As for the processor and the Phone it was all designed in europe including the processors and stuff. All sony did was remove the ericsson moniker and make then use better hardware.
ICS is apparently out as early as a week away, if your phone is locked down to a network it maybe longer due to bloatware. This may not happen but reading stuff on here and twitter its looking very likely. Android versions arnt what sells a phone the most to consumers, its the screen, the design of the Phone, the camera and yea im sure the Android version helps but its not a huge thing. I really hope this is just a bedding in period with Ericsson now being trained how to make Sony phones properly.
I think its a fantastic phone and with the correct leadership from Sony could be bigger yet (sales).
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Somehow I doubt that ICS is around the corner. Android version matters more than anything else. If Sony left the s at gingerbread, the phone would bomb.
The phone is doing well as far as sales goes but that's because the HTC devices have been disappointing. Once the galaxy s3 is launched. All that would change as things stand. Sony need to make sure ICS is ready before the s3 launch
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K900 said:
Flashtool a stock firmware from another region. You can do that without unlocking bootloader.
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Hi, hope you don't mind me asking. I've just upgraded my old X10 Mini Pro and should be receiving the Xperia S in a couple of days. I've been looking at .73 threads in the Dev section and they tend to imply an unlocked bootloader. e.g http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1571396
Needless to say I'm somewhat confused! Can I flash the above with a locked bootloader?
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Hi, hope you don't mind me asking. I've just upgraded my old X10 Mini Pro and should be receiving the Xperia S in a couple of days. I've been looking at .73 threads in the Dev section and they tend to imply an unlocked bootloader. e.g http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1571396
Needless to say I'm somewhat confused! Can I flash the above with a locked bootloader?
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This got me too.
You can flash an original official FW, so replace stock UK with stock SG(Singapore) for example. But this wont get you root, unfortunately.
Scratchling said:
This got me too.
You can flash an original official FW, so replace stock UK with stock SG(Singapore) for example. But this wont get you root, unfortunately.
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Yeah, I think I'd have to flash something like DoomKernel to get root? I'm still struggling with the learning curve with the Xperia S and still can't see the wood for the trees!
At this point the first thing I'm aiming to do is improve battery life, which .73 seems to do for many people.
Just had an email from Sony UK saying the .73 firmware will be out sometime this week. Makes me think ICS will be a long wait if it takes so long to release a simple firmware update.
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havent been here for about 2 or 3 years but getting another streak here soon once i sell off my Motorola milestone 3, and before i left there was talk of DJSteve coming back to pot cm9 to the streak and i see a few roms but not fully working so does that mean that all hope is lost and people moved on? or is there still people trying to get a fully working rom, plus with kitkat coming out and can "run" on lower spec roms will that give us a new light of hope?
I haven't seen DJ Steve here since he said he was going to work on ICS. At this point, it won't matter because in a few months I'm getting a Nexus 5. However, there are a couple lessons to be learned from this.
1. Don't promise what you can't deliver.
2. Don't trust anybody.
Now I'm sure at some point he'll come across this post, read it, and start throwing a hissy fit. However, this is the simple truth of the matter: he promised, didn't deliver, and any trust or goodwill he earned is gone. Getting angry at the messenger will not change that perception.
Thanks for the reply brother and it sucks such a awesome device and older crappyer phone are able to run ics and jb but I guess easier sources
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I know it's a small consolation, but you could install Traveller DSC and have a fully featured ROM. It's not ICS, but it at least looks the part.
<random musing>Though I really should switch out the default wallpapers for something more in tune with my tastes.</random musing>
Yeah I will give it a try man oce I get a streak trying to sell or trade my unlocked motorola droid 3
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d3adbroke said:
Thanks for the reply brother and it sucks such a awesome device and older crappyer phone are able to run ics and jb but I guess easier sources
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See it like this: In it's time, the Dell Streak 5 was a top class phablet. Much like the Porsche 912 as a sports car in the 60s. Even today, it is fun to drive. Modern cars - even less expensive ones - have abs brakes, rain sensors or other bells and whistles you will never see in your classic model. So what?
Well Dell is definitly no Porsche and mobile devices have a much shorter lifespan than cars. But have you tried to buy a Dell Streak 5 lately? A new one or even second hand? You pay collectors prices.