2.1 update is to be released very soon, I was wandering if it is a good idea not to update...
i'll love to get my x10 mini run with custom roms, and it seems we have a good chance to discover seurity holes in this 1.6 to 2.1 migration.
The risk is the bootloader will be repleaced with a new one with a new protection method an maybe it would be an advantage to keep the platform outdated
is this reasoning correct?
Very good point. If the 1.6 bootloader gets hacked next week and I'm on 2.1 I'll get very very sad. If there aren't good ways to downgrade?
/Daniel
You can downgrade with Omnius, but that will cost you at least 5 euros per try..
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Very good point. If the 1.6 bootloader gets hacked next week and I'm on 2.1 I'll get very very sad. If there aren't good ways to downgrade?
/Daniel
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i thought the bootloader can't be replaced?
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Now that we've got unofficial 2.1 on xperia x10, where do we go from here guys? Will 2.2 be possible in the near future? What's the difference, why were we able to flash 2.1 and not yet 2.2? Can someone explain this to me?
Thanks guys
As I understand it we can't really do anything fun until the bootloader is cracked, as unsigned ROMs cannot be flashed until then.
If anyone ever does crack it then we finally get to see what we can really do with the phone. Until then, even rooted, we're stuck playing with S-E's nerf firmware.
Hi, I'm a noob seeking advice. I rooted my phone a few weeks back just because I could, but haven't really done much with it since. I haven't upgraded from 2.2.1 yet -half because I've been busy and half because I'm shy about bugs.
My question is: since LG claims it's going to release the official upgrade this month, what are the advantages of official upgrade versus unofficial? It seems like every unofficial one has bugs still, so I'd be tempted to go back to official. Also, since I've already rooted it, I'm under the impression that kills official updates. If I want to go back to the official version, would I have to unroot it first or is there a way to just allow the official update to go through?
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Hi, I'm a noob seeking advice. I rooted my phone a few weeks back just because I could, but haven't really done much with it since. I haven't upgraded from 2.2.1 yet -half because I've been busy and half because I'm shy about bugs.
My question is: since LG claims it's going to release the official upgrade this month, what are the advantages of official upgrade versus unofficial? It seems like every unofficial one has bugs still, so I'd be tempted to go back to official. Also, since I've already rooted it, I'm under the impression that kills official updates. If I want to go back to the official version, would I have to unroot it first or is there a way to just allow the official update to go through?
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About the 2.3 official update, everyone is waiting for that, since 2.3 unoficial Roms have bugs and unimplemented features. For example, I love the CyanogenMod rom but I had to gave up on it since the the bluetooth is not working for auriculars and for the bluetooth system on my car. The 2.3 official update will solve all the problems for these current unoficial Roms, so if you really need a fully working Rom, better not go for those 2.3 Roms available.
You should not upgrade to 2.2.1 (or 2.2.2) using the regular LG update method. That will "unroot" your phone. There are 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 official unrooted Roms (just google for that, you will find them pretty easy). In that case you won't use the KDZ method but the safer Android Recovery method (avoid using the KDZ!! it's the easiest way to kill your phone!!).
So... if you just want to "unroot" your phone, you can always get the official update back in your phone, by using the KDZ method. KDZ reflashes your phone, and that's why the risk is higher than using the Android Recovery method which one wipes out some things like /system/*
mix em both and they will shine...I hope LG's release sky rocket's mik CM7 rom and then i will permanently switch to CM...they simply rock..
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About the 2.3 official update, everyone is waiting for that, since 2.3 unoficial Roms have bugs and unimplemented features. For example, I love the CyanogenMod rom but I had to gave up on it since the the bluetooth is not working for auriculars and for the bluetooth system on my car.
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That's exactly why I haven't gone for it yet. That and I've heard the GPS is still buggy.
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You should not upgrade to 2.2.1 (or 2.2.2) using the regular LG update method. That will "unroot" your phone.
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I already had the official 2.2.1 before I rooted with GingerBreak, and haven't changed from that. I thought that rooting the phone would automatically block the OTA updates. Is there a way to simply allow the OTA 2.3 update when it comes?
As for kdz versus Android Recovery, everything I've seen around the web for returning to stock says to flash using kdz. Are you talking about using home+vol down+power?
Hi guys I'm fairly new to the android hacking scene and am also one of the lucky guys who decided to flash GingerBread to his phone before everyone started posting about changes to the bootloader and now about fuses being burned.
Would anyone care to explain why an OTA update would burn a fuse like this? Is this some sort of software protection? Is there actual damage to the phone? Why would Motorola publish an update that does this? Please excuse my ignorance but I'm definitely confused about why they would do something that might lead to more returned devices.
Thanks much in advance.
Chad
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Hi guys I'm fairly new to the android hacking scene and am also one of the lucky guys who decided to flash GingerBread to his phone before everyone started posting about changes to the bootloader and now about fuses being burned.
Would anyone care to explain why an OTA update would burn a fuse like this? Is this some sort of software protection? Is there actual damage to the phone? Why would Motorola publish an update that does this? Please excuse my ignorance but I'm definitely confused about why they would do something that might lead to more returned devices.
Thanks much in advance.
Chad
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The OTA did not burn a fuse. Unlocking the bootloader burns the fuse, which is a hardware bootloader lock (unlocking the bootloader burns a fuse. Once unlocked, always unlocked). The new OTA GB upgrade puts a different bootloader on your phone making it nearly impossible to flash back to an earlier version. If you try to RSD back to 4.1.83 for example, you will have a nice paperweight afterwards. Motorola removed the ability to unlock the bootloader from the upgrade which was just released for reasons unto themselves. Many of us have unlocked bootloaders thanks to the devs, and are on a version of GB which we can flash back from if we want.
If you are not too worried about modding, and are happy with a stock phone, i.e. stock GB which Moto released, you have nothing to worry about. Just continue to update when they release OTA updates and you will be fine.
Hi all,
I was thinking it might be useful to put info. here on this, rather than 5 different threads. There are quite a few of us on the previous firmware and want to update but want root and perhaps don't want to try that over-the-air (OTA) trick to keep root.
Does anyone know are there any successful rooting tricks, or is it just OTA?
OTA isn't a big trick, just updating the firmware over the phone's internet(WiFi or 3G).
Any rumors about directly rooting .62 soon?
I cannot update via OTA because I have recovery and I don't want to remove it
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Any rumors about directly rooting .62 soon?
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I just ran through all the Sony Ericsson forums and found no real advancement...the Arc section they are using .ftf files PRErooted ...that's a nice advancement. I still look forward to the next easy method though. When I bought my first SE Android-version phone in 2010 it was exactly like this, it takes some time for the newer official firmware to be rooted, so I'm relaxed about it.
Hi all,
I'm quite new to the sony and android scene. My iphone 3GS broke down a while ago (actually I dropped it ) and I had it replaced by a Mini Pro.
I'm on the stock 2.3.4 rom and would like to test the miui version on this forum.
So, my question is simple: I need to unlock the bootloader to install a custom rom.
Can I revert to a stock rom (or upgrade to the new upcoming ics stock version) without loosing DRM etc?
And what's the procedure to do so?
you will have to follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285 that is the only way to unlock it without losing drm and the ability to officially update.
Looks quite scary stuff to me. Coming from a jailbroken iphone, it looks like this is a bit trickier. Thank you for the reply though
Another small question then: can I still upgrade to a stock rom version if I have unlocked the bootloader? (via an unofficial way that is)
yes you can, but if you unlock your bootloader the official way you are not going to be able to update using sony software.
and yeah it looks scary but it is easier than it looks.
Great, thanks for the info. I'll search around the forum for the unofficial unlock mechanisms and will have a try with them!
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Great, thanks for the info. I'll search around the forum for the unofficial unlock mechanisms and will have a try with them!
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well the only unofficial way is by test point (the link i posted before) but it's good to hear you want to search anything else let me know!