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My work has a GPRS connection through O2 and we had to setup some manual settings (which was a nightmare!!) to make this work. However, we can still surf the net if we connect to O2 GPRS.
So in summary, we have 2 GPRS connections. 1 for O2 which is used for surfing the net, and 1 for the company I work for (let's call them XDA plc for legal reasons....).
You might ask that why don't we just have 1 connection because we receive emails and check network stuff through the XDA plc connection but we can't surf the net using this one, so this is why we have the O2 connection as well. Everyone following this.
So to jump between the connections involves a long way for a shortcut by using the Settings-Connections-Connections icon and changing the settings. I noticed under Program-GPRS Connections there are various shortcuts. So after all this drivel.... here is the question.
Does anyone know how to make a new shortcut which I could apply our personal settings to?
Much Appreciated
Keith
No for a lie down.... phew :?
So, if I got your correctly, you have a secured GPRS connection to the XDA plc that doesn't allow access to the internet for security reason, and another normal GPRS connection to surf the internet ... right ?
Ok, this is a typical setup for highly secured LANs to reduce the possibility of virus attacks.
My advice is to check with your network administrator the possibility to add a firewall on a proxy server in your LAN to allow you to surf the internet (I 'm sure it came to their mind but they know better than me of course )
Or, you can setup the normal connectivity on your XDA to access the internet through O2, and set the xda plc GPRS connection to the "Work" connection and adjust your network application on the XDA to use this connection instead of the normal one.
So, if I got your correctly, you have a secured GPRS connection to the XDA plc that doesn't allow access to the internet for security reason, and another normal GPRS connection to surf the internet ... right ?
Why couldn't I have put it like that............... Yes
Or, you can setup the normal connectivity on your XDA to access the internet through O2, and set the xda plc GPRS connection to the "Work" connection and adjust your network application on the XDA to use this connection instead of the normal one.
I'm afraid it is the 'Or' as our IT guys cringe at the thought we even have an XDA....
There are 3 selections that you can make in the Connections (under settings) window.
1. When needed, automatically connect to The Internet using these settings:
2. When needed, automatically connect to Work using these settings:
3. My network card connect to:
1 is Work Settings
2 is Work Settings
3 is Work
The Work Settings have the secure GPRS settings (XDA plc).
I would have thought that I could have selected:
1. Internet Settings
2. Work Settings
3. Work
But when I use Active sync it will try to connect to O2 instead of XDA plc. It's the same when using IE. It will connect to XDA plc if 1,2 & 3 are set to Work. I've tried various other combinations to no avail.
My thinking was that if I could create a shortcut, like in Programs-GPRS Connections, then I could jump between the 2 without going through a long process.
Cheers
But when I use Active sync it will try to connect to O2 instead of XDA plc. It's the same when using IE. It will connect to XDA plc if 1,2 & 3 are set to Work.
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oh, i think i got ur point. up to my info, internet settings will be used whenever the device is connected 'wirelessly' .. if ur exchange server is in the xda plc LAN, then activesync will use the internet settings ... and Work settings is used whenever the xda is in the cradle ... IE will use it only if the 'pass through' option is checked and there is a proxy to the internet.
you should create another 'connection' under internet settings but using the access point of xda plc ... u will still have to select the proper 'modem' under internet settings manually
leave the work settings empty and it will be auto configured if u sync with ur exchange server from the cradle
you should create another 'connection' under internet settings but using the access point of xda plc ... u will still have to select the proper 'modem' under internet settings manually
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Does that not defeat the point though? If the work settings are already setup, I'm as well selecting between that and Internet settings instead of jumping further into the settings?
I thought there might be someway to create a shortcut in Programs-GPRS Connections therefore I could get these shortcuts to the today screen and then select whichever one I need.
If you use WM2003 you can click the connection strength symbol in the header to connect and disconnect to the different services. They should both be listed in the bubble that pops up.
oh, i think i got ur point. up to my info, internet settings will be used whenever the device is connected 'wirelessly' .. if ur exchange server is in the xda plc LAN, then activesync will use the internet settings ... and Work settings is used whenever the xda is in the cradle ... IE will use it only if the 'pass through' option is checked and there is a proxy to the internet.
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I think what your problem is that you are using a server name on your corporate LAN that has full-stops in it. These are interpreted by the XDA as an internet address, and therefore the Internet connection is used.
What you need to do to get around this is to put in some exceptions.
Go into Settings -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks
Then click on the exeptions button, and click on Add URL
Then put in the name of your server (or the domains that your company uses). Good examples are:-
*.xda.com
mailserver.xda.com
That should sort it for you, so you can then set the Internet to connect to the Internet, and Work to connect to Work.
I think what your problem is that you are using a server name on your corporate LAN that has full-stops in it. These are interpreted by the XDA as an internet address, and therefore the Internet connection is used.
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But I can't use the XDA plc to access the Internet and I can't use O2 Mobile Web to access XDA plc for email, etc.
Interesting point though but I can't think where this si useful unless I've missed your point.
The only solution I can see is to create these shortcuts which no-one, so far, seems to know how to do.
Thanks for all your help so far,
cheers
keith :wink:
Would this help?
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4958
Interesting point though but I can't think where this si useful unless I've missed your point.
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Sorry - I think you have missed my point.
You have two connections - the Internet and Work.
Work is normally used for any Corporate LAN type stuff, and the Internet for everything else.
The XDA decides that you need to connect to and use Internet if the address contains full-stops (i.e. URLs like http://www.abc.com). If it doesn't, then the Work setting is used.
I think the problem is that your work server is setup as something like email.abc.com, so the XDA decides that this is an internet address and uses the Internet connection settings.
What I do is setup O2 Mobile Web as my Internet connection, and my corporate LAN as the Work connection. Then, I add into the exceptions list the name of my corporate LAN email server (email.abc.com, or even *.abc.com). This tells the XDA that when using the address email.abc.com to use the Work settings instead of the Internet settings and hey-presto it sorts itself out!
The only challenge then comes when, like me, you have a 3rd connection (WAP/MMS), at which point you do have to manually choose between which Internet connection setting to use, but for just the 2 it works fine.
Hope this helps!
Would this help?
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4958
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I took a look and this could be one of the answers I'm looking for however,,,,
Go into Settings -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks
Then click on the exeptions button, and click on Add URL
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Now I understand where you are going with this. But I can only select the following menu:
Settings -> Connections
There is no advanced menu.
Can you point me in the right direction?
Cheers
cant recall if it's the same with 2002 if you are using that, that is
start button
choose settings
choose the tab called connections
click the icon called connections
choose the tab called advanced
it's in the buttom of the dialog in the connections dialog
it's in the buttom of the dialog in the connections dialog
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uh oh... there's no tab for advanced, just dialling locations and connections.
Maybe it would have helped if I had mentioned Pocket PC 2002.. Sorry.
Anyone else know where this menu may be?
Cheers
Keith
i think you see the stuff in the normal dialog in menu
it's where you choose what network you are on
as in <gprs>
or <wap> og <mms>
or <Wifi> or <Usb Lan using ActiveSync passthough>
or ............
those you dont see but need you will have to make yourself
much in the same way as you manualy set up grps
you then just choose the one you want to use at a given time and
thats pretty much it really
you then just choose the one you want to use at a given time and
thats pretty much it really
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I would have hoped that the advanced menu would either be somewhere else on PPC2002 or at least be called something else. It appears that there is no easy answer to this.
This is really the crux of the problem where I have to keep going to Settings/Connection/Connections and changing everything back and forth.
What I have noticed about using the GPRS connection shortcuts, progrma/gprs connections, is that they change all the settings over automatically which means I have to change them back. So if it can do this then we must be able to create a shortcut which will change them back. Where this info is kept, I don't know.
it's pretty much the same situation you are facing if you are using a laptop with a modem and lan and have to change between them
maybe you can look for some 3th party software
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enu would either be somewhere else on PPC2002 or at least be called something else. It appears that there is no easy answer to this.
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What you're looking for is there in WM2003.
If an upgrade to 2003 is not an option you might want to give SPBs GPRS Monitor a try. I think it will let you connect/disconnect to different networks from the popup that is shown when you klick the connection icon in the task bar.
Download a trial at:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/gprsmonitor/?en
I've downloaded this software and I'll give it a try. Looks like good quality software too. Anyone tried the Today plug-in? versus other today plugins?
How do you upgrade to WM2003? Is it like a PC OS where you purchase the OS and install it? Sorry for newbie question....
After much serching and trialling I eventually forund RasMan software which provides the dial in switching that I need.
Now I can leave all the settings for my companies GPRS (so I can Activesync) and by using RasMan, I can dial up the O2 Mobile Web and surf to my hearts content.
Knew I would get there in the end.......
Cheers
Greeting,
I have downloaded and install quite number of applications(eg: weather panel,weather watcher and etc) but it always prompts me internet connection not established, even through my phone dopod818pro conncected through USB to my pc and i can surf internet through my pc on my phone. Any ideas from any experts??
Thanks in advance...
The answer is the connection setting.
You should customize the connection setting and if you used proxy, please also correct the proxy setting.
Usually the setting use My work network for both, internet and local network, and also disable any bluetooth explorer.
I use also dopod 818pro and no problem with weather setting
asraf09 said:
Greeting,
I have downloaded and install quite number of applications(eg: weather panel,weather watcher and etc) but it always prompts me internet connection not established, even through my phone dopod818pro conncected through USB to my pc and i can surf internet through my pc on my phone. Any ideas from any experts??
Thanks in advance...
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More detail...
What ROM, what IPL/SPL, any proxy settings etc...
Also, why is this in the "Prophet Mobile 6" Forum, when it is not directly related to "Mobile 6"?
Hi all
Not a power user's dilemma I'm afraid but I hope someone can help me out...
What's bugging me is that my wife's LG-P500 incurs a small charge every day because, despite all the settings telling me it should NOT connect to the internet via the mobile network at any time, it somehow still connects - even when wifi is available like at home.
This wouldn't be a big deal normally but because she's on a pre-pay txt only plan her credit gets used up quickly.
My HTC Wildfire uses NO mobile connection at all when I have wifi available. Any ideas why this should be happening with our LG-P500?
Great forums by the way and I'm slightly embarrassed to be raising this probably noob topic here but I can't find an answer anywhere else...
Thanks in advance!
I haven't seen that problem on my P500, with the void echo ROM (the stock firmware didn't stay on the phone long enough for me to try that).
The option to disable it is in:
Settings -> Wireless and network settings -> Mobile networks -> Data enabled (should be unchecked)
Or in the drop-down menu of the notification bar.
I'm not sure about the stock ROM, but on void, an additional icon appears on the notification bar whenever the mobile network is active.
You could also try disabling the option:
Settings -> Accounts & sync settings -> Background data (should be unchecked)
Thanks. I already did all the obvious stuff you mention, having seen it work fine on my Wildfire... Any other ideas out there?
Might this be related to Location Services using Cell tower information ?
Could try turning that off anyway.
If you don't want to use the mobile network for internet access, than go to Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Uncheck Data enabled .
If the network allows you, you can also select Network mode > GSM only, this will also save you some battery. For example, I only use wifi to connect to Internet on my phone, and I also checked the option "Use only 2G networks" (also saves battery), I'm connecting to my operator only for phone calls
What is your Wi-Fi sleep policy settings? Try setting it to Never.
When the phone goes into sleep mode, wifi is turned off to save on battery. May be that's the reason mobile network is getting connected in sleep mode. If u enable wifi policy to never sleep that will drain the battery. You can disable the mobile network from th3 notification bar that should help.
Many thanks for the help guys!
Wifi sleep: good idea, I'll look at that!
Location services: good idea, I'll look at that!
Data enabled: unchecked already.
The problem still strikes me as odd because although I have ALL the same apps (and quite a few more...), I don't have this problem with my little HTC Wildfire...
Update: the only way I could find to resove the issue was to invent and use a nonsense APN...
Wifi sleep was already ticked as "never" by the way.
Thanks again everyone who gave advice.
Yeah, I've also had reason to use an APN named "fake" with a proxy named 'fake", although i use "Z" now to save typing, LOL.
This is one of many things i would do when changing SIMs. I have had one SIM and phone that always set a new APN and this ended up costing me a few bucks in data fees before I re-changed the APN info.
I would also disable the data services, make sure WiFi was on (to provide priority data access) AND enable airplane mode.
Anyway, your experience has inspired me to check more deeply about my data usage. I don't like the idea of my phone doing data without my knowledge while it's in standy.
I prefer to manually choose which connection I would like to use, so if I'm using my data plan such as when I'm out, I go to notification and enable data. I only get 200mb a month so its easier for me than to always keep networks on even when I'm not using them. It also saves on the battery as well.
EDIT: you can check your data usage using 3g watchdog app, find it in android market
It easy to solve. Just install APNdroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.code.apndroid
It also has a widget. Works very well.
I don't have a mobile data plan, and connect via wi-fi only at home. I am trying to find a weather app that work without an always-on internet connection. So far I have tried Accuweather, Weather Channel, and Weatherbug and they all fail when the internet connection is gone. I want an app that will update regularly when connected to the internet, but will also let me view the last weather update in the app when not connected to the internet. In all the above cases, as soon as the internet connection is gone the app is unusable and will not show me previously downloaded data. Sounds like a simple requirement, but it seems weather apps are generally not well written :/ Any suggestions?
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I don't have a mobile data plan, and connect via wi-fi only at home. I am trying to find a weather app that work without an always-on internet connection. So far I have tried Accuweather, Weather Channel, and Weatherbug and they all fail when the internet connection is gone. I want an app that will update regularly when connected to the internet, but will also let me view the last weather update in the app when not connected to the internet. In all the above cases, as soon as the internet connection is gone the app is unusable and will not show me previously downloaded data. Sounds like a simple requirement, but it seems weather apps are generally not well written :/ Any suggestions?
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Agreed bro..anyone?
The only one I know of that lets you view previously downloaded data when there is no internet connection is Palmary Weather.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.palmarysoft.forecaweather&feature=search_result
I have it on my phone and when there is no internet connection it just opens last updates. They also have a premium version ($2.99) but I believe that just has more widgets and map options.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.palmarysoft.customweatherpro&feature=search_result
Most weather apps suck IMHO especially Accuweather which won't even work on wifi but insists on using your 3G/4G data. Uninstalled immediately when I discovered that.
Try Palmary free and see how that works - connect to wifi, let it download some data, then disconnect and reload Palmary - it will still show previously downloaded data.
These days I just use the web browser to connect to weather sites but if I was going someplace with no internet I would update Palmary first so I could review forcast later.
Animated Weather Widget contains a option wich allows u to set wifi only in the settings
busbutt said:
I don't have a mobile data plan, and connect via wi-fi only at home. I am trying to find a weather app that work without an always-on internet connection. So far I have tried Accuweather, Weather Channel, and Weatherbug and they all fail when the internet connection is gone. I want an app that will update regularly when connected to the internet, but will also let me view the last weather update in the app when not connected to the internet. In all the above cases, as soon as the internet connection is gone the app is unusable and will not show me previously downloaded data. Sounds like a simple requirement, but it seems weather apps are generally not well written :/ Any suggestions?
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Haha I can understand
They take a lot of data :/
After research I found Amber Weather on Google Play
You should check it out
Hope it helps you mate!
Hi All
I have an ex T-Mobile HTC HD2 running windows 6.5 and connected to O2.
Mostly everything works fine except . . . . .
When I try to download an MMS message the phone tries to use the T-Mobile network and as this is not set up, it doesn;t work.
It tries to use t-Mobile even when connected to wifi
I have tried getting onto the network manager but all the T-Mobile settings are greyed out. and there is no option to delete the entry (edit, press and hold gives no options).
Network manager is set to use O2 (Connect to internet and Private network)
So, please, how do I get rig of T-Mobile and default to O2.
I presume it some registry hack?
TFAI
Try downloading & install this connection settings tool by HTC >
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=565785&d=1302516709
Once installed it will have a shortcut link in Settings, Connections, Connection Setup
Run it & choose country 'UK' & network provider 'O2' *be sure choose postpay or prepay*
It should load all setting including MMS.
If have issues post back for more help.
Another good option would be debranding your HD2 with either standard generic HTC ROM or Custom ROM such as Energy, links can be found in HD2 Wiki > http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_HD2#ROM_Development
Thanks for that.
Sadly not a huge success. cab downloaded and installed.
Run, reset, set up connection, reset etc
Eventually Settings, Connections, Connection Setup select O2 postpay and another restart just in case
Then
Wireless Controls, Data Connection, but it wont conect. (Slider wont go green)
Wifi Conection greyed out.
Total mess.
Back to Conection Setup and check but its set to UK, O2 postpay
I have Data Controller installed but that allows all O2 (MMS postpay and mobile web)
At least I could access the www before
How do I get out of this mess
TFAI
I would try removing data controller as that has some known issues of messing up the connection settings in registry.
I use GB-SOFT GPRS UMTS tweak which auto disconnects gprs when not used (set time to zero).
So in review >
remove Data controller & soft reset
Go into Settings>Connections>Connections>select 'manage existing connections' & delete any settings remaining
re-run Connection Setup & see if works !
I've never had trouble on provider roms such as T-Mobile so assume will be messy registry problem.
If no joy, post again & I will try dig up a guide & settings for O2 for manually trying input GPRS & MMS.
Good fix would be Custom WM6.5.5 such as one in my signature.
hhhmmm struggling. I can find no sensible way of uninstalling the Data controller. There is no entry on the list of programs to uninstall and I cant identify a directory.
There is a shortcut that points to \Windows\DataController.exe but is removing the program enough?
Good news is that I can Wireless stuff now works (My fault, I had forgotten they dont work when usb is connected to PC) So the only problem is MMS. Mor efiddling around, reran the HTC thing. Deleted an old connection and reboote a couple of times and eventually it worked.
And they call this a science!!
Thanks for you help
^ So is MMS now working !
If not I will post a manual MMS settings guide I have for WM6.5 somewhere.
Just removing the datacontroller.exe wouldn't be enough really, what really wanted is registry for it removed.
From your comments sounds like was mainly dirty connection settings in registry.
Data & MMS connections can be bit of a pain in WM6.5 but once learned manually or if the htc connections settings tool works perfectly they are better than android or iphone for flexibility & control.