got this from techradar website is this true or what??
12. Don't drain the battery
The old advice to completely drain your battery to ensure proper operation doesn't stand any more, thanks to modern lithium-ion batteries. They don't have the charge memory issues that affected previous generation cells, and in fact perform better if you regularly charge them and keep them topped up.
Read more: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...y-life-how-to-improve-it-697772#ixzz14BOnEVuP
It's perfectly fine to drain the battery.
You drain the battery to train the rom so it will learn the highs and low. That makes your battery icon more accurate from what I understand. So essentially it's not the battery we are conditioning it's the rom.
icandy75 said:
You drain the battery to train the rom so it will learn the highs and low. That makes your battery icon more accurate from what I understand. So essentially it's not the battery we are conditioning it's the rom.
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+1 I completely agree
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+1 I completely agree
Friends don't let friends flash drunk
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Digging the signature man.
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Thanks everyone for not coming out like jerks.
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Rodriguez92 said:
got this from techradar website is this true or what??
12. Don't drain the battery
The old advice to completely drain your battery to ensure proper operation doesn't stand any more, thanks to modern lithium-ion batteries. They don't have the charge memory issues that affected previous generation cells, and in fact perform better if you regularly charge them and keep them topped up.
Read more: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...y-life-how-to-improve-it-697772#ixzz14BOnEVuP
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All you really have to do is train the phones charging system. LiIon batteries do not have the sorts of memory issues that old fashioned NiCad's did.
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Thanks everyone for not coming out like jerks.
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No worries, like you see if you post in the right section you wont get flamed.
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Hello dear members
I'd like to ask if an everyday charge will harm my battery.
It's my first week with my phone, and I can't keep my hands off it
As a result, battery runs out every day!! So I charge it...
Will something happen to the battery?
thanks in advance
This phone has a litium ion battery. They don't have a memory effect but in the first time they need some time to become the full potential. So it doesn't matter if you charge the phone every day.
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Thank you so much!!!!
It's a relief
To maintain better battery life it might be a good idea to make sure that u dont fully drain the battery
That shouldn't be a problem the most battery's should have electronic inside to prevent this but I can't guarantee it. You can read also the Wikipedia article about lithium ion batteries it's quite interesting.
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
Thanks so much everyone Point taken
I'll never let it fall under 10%.
Well, Battery is average. If it weren't for the 2.3.3 bug, it would rock! In order for it to be normal, I keep ****ting Services.(under Services menu) like Voice talk, SocialHub(which drains a lot of battery) etc
Anyways, thanks to everyone
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
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Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
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I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
ithehappy said:
Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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Nope. Li-ion batteries these days prefer constant top-ups and full drain actually kills it faster. Totally opposite of what people have been taught over years of NiCD battery use that I've got friends who absolutely refuse to charge their iPhones unless it's at 10% or less. Their loss.
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Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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No that's only good to do once in a while. Full discharges daily put stress on the cells and wear out li ion batteries quicker.
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I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
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Yes it's common for all lithium ion batteries to charge as often as possible. Its true for all phones on the market today and quite a lot of discussion on this is all around the web.
Also a replacement stock battery for any cell phone today is around 20 dollars, so really you can't do much wrong since its so cheap to buy a new OEM battery replacement.
Thanks for the replies. I think this will catch a few people out so hope the thread doesn't get missed amongst all the other battery ones!
Looks like I'd better change my charging habits!
I'm thinking of making a script to reset my battery stats every morning when my phone is at 100%. I understand most of you won't believe this will extend battery life, but it has worked for me time and time again. After a couple days my overall battery life appears to shorten until the stats are reset. I believe this is because it resets the voltage threshold where the phone says to turn itself off. This is controlled by software because if the lithium ion battery gets too low then it is unable to recharge itself and will be damaged.
I am seeking advice on making a script. Can this be done with an app?
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I think you're wasting your time. Wiping battery stats does absolutely nothing. One of googles own developers said wiping stats is a myth. Its all placebo
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didnt want ya thinking i was making stuff up, so here ya go. just for reference, shes an android framework engineer. if you dont believe what she says, well then, i dont know what to tell ya
Dianne Hackborn - 6:42 PM - Public Today's myth debunking:
"The battery indicator in the status/notification bar is a reflection of the batterystats.bin file in the data/system/directory."
No, it does not.
This file is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings.
That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
It has no impact on the current battery level shown to you.
It has no impact on your battery life.
Deleting it is not going to do anything to make your more device more fantastic and wonderful... well, unless you have some deep hatred for seeing anything shown in the battery usage UI. And anyway, it is reset every time you unplug from power with a relatively full charge (thus why the battery usage UI data resets at that point), so this would be a much easier way to make it for away.
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https://plus.google.com/u/0/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
I will do more testing to ensure no placebo issue. If I had to prove it, what would convince you guys?
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I will do more testing to ensure no placebo issue. If I had to prove it, what would convince you guys?
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Did you not read my post? She's a Google engineer man, without her and her crew there would be no android. How would you disprove the woman? This a black and white issue here man, you don't need to test for placebo or anything else. Wiping battery stats, calibrating, whatever you wanna call it is a MYTH
Terrible idea.
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Did you not read my post? She's a Google engineer man, without her and her crew there would be no android. How would you disprove the woman? This a black and white issue here man, you don't need to test for placebo or anything else. Wiping battery stats, calibrating, whatever you wanna call it is a MYTH
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So letting your phone and charging it to 100% is a Myth to extend battery life ? Sense it Is "calibrating"
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fuego77 said:
So letting your phone and charging it to 100% is a Myth to extend battery life ? Sense it Is "calibrating"
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No, what he is saying is that wiping battery stats does nothing to improve battery life. What he was reffering to as calibrating, is different than what u are thinking
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fuego77 said:
So letting your phone and charging it to 100% is a Myth to extend battery life ? Sense it Is "calibrating"
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here ya go. try this and see if it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
I get it. Some/most don't believe that wiping battery stats extends your battery life. I really do understand that it makes no sense. The only thing I know is that on the days that I wipe my battery stats, the battery lasts longer and I can be on my phone more without terrible battery drain.
I don't care why this happens or gives me the perception of it happening. I will happily be wrong and ignorant and enjoy my phone more. I just want to figure out how to make a script that resets when I hit 100% in the morning after charging.
How can I make a script that is either triggered by time or battery percent? I looked into Init.d, but that seems to only work on startup.
Thanks for the responses.
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here ya go. try this and see if it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
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To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well.
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I'll try this, first. Thanks
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I will do more testing to ensure no placebo issue. If I had to prove it, what would convince you guys?
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MONEY. Lots of MONEY.
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... The Android engineer stated that the file is wiped when you restart ... just restart your phone every morning. Probably good for a lot of things.
So the special charging trick helps. Must get a few extra mA into the battery or something. Would be really cool to script something to perform the shutoff and startups. Looking into tasker app.
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I don't see too much high drain activity during that 14H. Care to show us what apps were active, and for how long, during that 14H?
I ve not seen many differece whit wipe...
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My phone has 50% battery left. I plug the cable into my laptop to charge over USB. Then I play some games at the same time. The battery level comes up slowly.
So is it good to do that? Or we should do one at a time: charge or use phone.
I have always done it that way and ive had android ever since it first came out. Nothing should go wrong, at least not for me.
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No problems with that.
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Yeah this is a good question I have always wondered about it... Won't it affect the battery like long term?
Wont harm anything
it doesn't matter if affects to the battery or not, you will trade your phone for another new one before the battery gets damaged
The only issue is that the phone will heat up like crazy so...
If you're overclocked or it's a very hot day, please avoid doing this, otherwise you may damage your phone.
Charging in power off stage
Does anyone feel charging in power off stage is quicker than normal stage?
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Does anyone feel charging in power off stage is quicker than normal stage?
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Charging when the phone is turned off is quicker for me
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illusiongod said:
Does anyone feel charging in power off stage is quicker than normal stage?
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Of course it is. One is "In & Out" while another is "Only In" >>> The battery is filled faster
@Everyone: I wonder if it will affect the battery life. For example, its capacity is reduced faster
//Pls excuse me for my poor English
ntduyphuong said:
Of course it is. One is "In & Out" while another is "Only In" >>> The battery is filled faster
@Everyone: I wonder if it will affect the battery life. For example, its capacity is reduced faster
//Pls excuse me for my poor English
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It shouldn't.
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Using while charging overheats the battery and the mobile itself.
Heat is the biggest enemy of batteries (wrt. longetivity), so yes it does reduce battery life. Having said that, most of us upgrade phones in less than 2 years, so it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
But overheating is not good for rest of the phone hardware.
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Using while charging overheats the battery and the mobile itself.
Heat is the biggest enemy of batteries (wrt. longetivity), so yes it does reduce battery life. Having said that, most of us upgrade phones in less than 2 years, so it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
But overheating is not good for rest of the phone hardware.
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I really doubt that. If the phone or battery were overheating, you wouldn't be able to touch it.
Maybe it reduces battery life, but that can't be much, since the battery gets hot whether it's being charged or not.
I kill two battery on my x10 !!with heavy use it when it charge.
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I kill two battery on my x10 !!with heavy use it when it charge.
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If you left it in all the time, yeah, that would.
Using it while charging is fine. Mine charges at about 30-35*C, gaming on top its up to max 41/42. Thats well within limits and its going to have negligible effects on the battery pack.
What charger? Sure it was an dealextreme charger.
Logic.
Killing 2 batterys? Dafuq
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FOR THOSE WITH BATTERY PROBLEMS:
1. After flashing your phone with a new ROM, install this software:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ibration&hl=en
BATTERY CALIBRATOR - 47 KB size
2. Then, charge your phone to 100%.
3. IMPORTANT. Remove CHARGER first.
3. IMMEDIATELY hit "Battery Calibration" (1 or 2 seconds delay is fine, wait for BATTERY voltage to drop and be stable)
4. Use your phone normally (don't charge in between) till it hits 1%.
5. Then charge your phone UNINTERRUPTED (leave it for charging all night) till 100%.
6. Unplug and start using. You should be having as little as 2-3% battery drain for 6-8 hours of IDLING now. That's the optimization of a calibrated battery.
ENJOY! Hope this helps!
Even Google confirmed that deleting that one file has nothing to do with battery drain,its just place where phone saves battery using from apps.
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XperianPro said:
Even Google confirmed that deleting that one file has nothing to do with battery drain,its just place where phone saves battery using from apps.
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Surprisingly this issue continues to be resolved by simply following this easy trick. Worked for me, hence I shared it. Worked for good many other people. I don't see the explanation for that. As long as it fixes someone's headache, it's helpful.
You should charge your phone as often as possible. That's good for the battery.
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troullis2004 said:
You should charge your phone as often as possible. That's good for the battery.
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Umm. Where did you get THAT from?
thunderising said:
Umm. Where did you get THAT from?
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sony mobile description thread, its there..it say charge you phone often,
olujnap316 said:
sony mobile description thread, its there..it say charge you phone often,
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Don't see how that can help.
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Don't see how that can help.
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me to surely it will shorten the life of the battery quicker than waiting for the battery to nearly flat i.e ~10% or less before you do recharge it
Thanks, it`s quite easy method.
aceado said:
me to surely it will shorten the life of the battery quicker than waiting for the battery to nearly flat i.e ~10% or less before you do recharge it
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Letting Lithium Ion get to low charges then charging it will decrease battery life, you can leave them plugged in a charger and it will be fine, just like when you leave your laptop plugged in or leaving a UPS plugged in.
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Letting Lithium Ion get to low charges then charging it will decrease battery life, you can leave them plugged in a charger and it will be fine, just like when you leave your laptop plugged in or leaving a UPS plugged in.
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Oh, I didn't know that. THANKS!
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Umm. Where did you get THAT from?
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check http://batteryuniversity.com/ it is true for lithium batteries
For root users, just use greenify will do.
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thunderising said:
Surprisingly this issue continues to be resolved by simply following this easy trick. Worked for me, hence I shared it. Worked for good many other people. I don't see the explanation for that. As long as it fixes someone's headache, it's helpful.
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actually what battery calibration really do is it makes battery percentage display on status bar more "accurate".
when you flash a new rom, old battery data is not deleted so it will be inaccurate (ex: showing 52% on status bar when your battery is at 30%)
therefore, calibration doesn't improve battery life :laugh:
Ive heard of it before. keeping your battery level between 60% and 80% help prolong your battery's lifespan.
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Luzard said:
actually what battery calibration really do is it makes battery percentage display on status bar more "accurate".
when you flash a new rom, old battery data is not deleted so it will be inaccurate (ex: showing 52% on status bar when your battery is at 30%)
therefore, calibration doesn't improve battery life :laugh:
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It kinda does improve your battery life, because for instance your phone is reading 10% while the phone actually have 30% then the phone may shut down anytime because it think it has low power.
help me please
Hi I am ray
I bought a new note 4 a month ago
I needed to root it badly but I cant find any proper way, so I flashed a prerooted custom rom called nameless rom v7. It is perfect in performance yet my battery charges to a maximum 87% and when it reaches 13% my device powers off...I tried calibration and clearing dalvik and reflashing rom abd buying a new battery but none had solved my problem. Please help me. My email is (but dont publish it or abuse it) wwwwwwward8 at gmail . com (since website dont allow me to post an email full) seeking help from you. And thanks in advance. And by the way I ama game hacker so if u help me get this solved I will let u chose any game 4 me 2 hack and get it as a reward
Hey guys
On the weekends I'm usually home and I do use my phone quite a bit..but I'm mostly sitting at my computer doing so.
Is it better for me to keep the phone plugged in or should I be letting it drain? I heard that large drain cycles are not good for the battery and will wear it out faster...I've learnt that with my original Samsung battery...I have an extended one, now.
I've searched around...some people say one thing, others say the opposite...so what's the deal, really?
Thanks,
Elliott
The battery is desinged to be drained, you can always use your device plugged in when you are about to run outta juice.
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Right...but if I'm going to be texting constantly on the phone...is it better to just leave the phone on charge while I'm using it, or keep draining it/charging it back up?
As I said, use it.
If battery is low, just charge it while you do.
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Thanks.
Anyone else have any info on this?
Elliott
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There was an article on XDA a while ago about the battery in mobile phones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
Summary:
It doesnt matter if you keep it plugged in or not. It will do no damage to it.
What you shouldn't do with this kind of battery is draining it to 0% like some people suggest. In fact it is better to keep it charged above 40% to maximize the lifetime of your battery.
Here is also an other thread about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914417
Thanks for the threads.
The first and 2nd threads you posted through, seem to contradict each other.
The first thread said
Hence constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Avoid letting it sit on empty for too long; instead, keep it charged-up if you can.
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Avoid keeping your battery at 100%: Every source I referenced for this guide said the same thing about keeping your battery at a full capacity, but oranageinks.com explains [...]
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lol, we gotta get a lithium battery Ph.D here
I never let my battery die on me, I only do it once to get rid of fuel gauge (although some say that it fixs it on it own after three days or so) whenever I flash a new ROM.
I always let it frain to 15 % or something like that.
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Thanks for the threads.
The first and 2nd threads you posted through, seem to contradict each other.
The first thread said
The second thread said:
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It doesnt really contradict each other. They warn you about heat that is bad for your battery when charged to 100%. Keeping your phone at 100% in a hot enviroment does more damage then having it at 40% in the same enviroment. The same applies to running an app that keeps your cpu running constantly thus heating up your phone.. But in normal circumstances it shouldnt do harm.
It sounds like someone is obsessed about their battery not being at 100% all the time.
Charging and discharging your battery shortens it's life. This is the way it was designed.
Chill, it's just a phone, not an artificial heart
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Lennyz1988 said:
It doesnt really contradict each other. They warn you about heat that is bad for your battery when charged to 100%. Keeping your phone at 100% in a hot enviroment does more damage then having it at 40% in the same enviroment. The same applies to running an app that keeps your cpu running constantly thus heating up your phone.. But in normal circumstances it shouldnt do harm.
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Well I think they clearly contradict each other...one says to keep your battery charged up, the other says not to keep it at 100%...
I understand about the heat degrading batteries...but that's another discussion completely.
Anyone else have any opinion?
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It sounds like someone is obsessed about their battery not being at 100% all the time.
Charging and discharging your battery shortens it's life. This is the way it was designed.
Chill, it's just a phone, not an artificial heart
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I wouldn't call myself obsessed...I'm just wondering if leaving it plugged in for a good portion of the day will reduce it's life. Because I did that with my original Samsung battery and it's barely usable for me now...just wondering if leaving it plugged in for long periods of time diminished it's life over a year and a half.
I think batteries don't like to be plugged all the time.
For what i've read in the last 4 years nobody knows exactly what's good and what's not for them.
You be the judge.
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