Two questions about Stock Rom and Radio (T-Mobile GERMAN) - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey mates
i've got two questions:
i know some things about hspl and so on
i know that you can revert everything back to stock by flashing a stock rom via sd card.
but now i'm wondering if you need to flash any of your stock roms (so for example 1.48, 1.66, 1.72, etc. if you have a htc phone) or do you need YOUR rom (which was originally installed on your phone, for example your phone was delivered with 1.48, so you need 1.48 to revert everything back to stock).
i'm wondering because mine is originally t-mobile branded. it came with 1.48 tmo ger to me..but this rom isnt out there, theres just the 1.72 t-mobile one.
so am i able to revert everything back to stock by flashing 1.72 t-mobile rom via sd card or do i need 1.48 (which isnt really out there)?
my second question is about radio:
i know that you need a .50 radio for enabling full ram and for running android.
i'm currently running the 1.48 stock rom (htc, not t-mobile). if i would like to have a .50 radio, do i need a new (maybe costum) rom, or will this radio work with the 1.48 rom?
thanks for help.
DN41

DN41 said:
i'm wondering because mine is originally t-mobile branded. it came with 1.48 tmo ger to me..but this rom isnt out there, theres just the 1.72 t-mobile one.
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the 1,72 will be fine. so long as it is branded for your phone, it is fine.
my second question is about radio:
i know that you need a .50 radio for enabling full ram and for running android.
i'm currently running the 1.48 stock rom (htc, not t-mobile). if i would like to have a .50 radio, do i need a new (maybe costum) rom, or will this radio work with the 1.48 rom?
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must be a custom rom (or a tmous rom). Only roms that use a tmous base (nk.exe) in partnership with a ..50.. radio will unlock the ram.

thanks samsamuel
one maybe silly question: what if i would install a .50 radio with that rom? what the radio part of the phone be unusable? or would nothing change?
DN41

it comes with a 50 radio.
There is a thread HERE where someone says the tmous 2.15.50 and the wwe 2.15.50 radio are slightly different. Just gotta wait and see what people report.
If i had the time and inclination i would flash teh tmous 3.14 rom and radio, just to see whether it unlocks the 576.

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8525 downgrade from vanilla

Can it be done? Also which ROM should i use? I prefer to wait for the official release from ATT/Cingular.
If you want an official Cingular/AT&T rom, well then you only have one choice, the rom that was purchased with your device.
eagle 1 said:
If you want an official Cingular/AT&T rom, well then you only have one choice, the rom that was purchased with your device.
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What about one of the newer ones? I saw one link from htc.
samhaine said:
What about one of the newer ones? I saw one link from htc.
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Download This http://rapidshare.com/files/17337421/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.34.00.10_SPL1.04.zip
The Latest Cingular ROM 2.06 w/AKU 3.3 + Latest Hermes Radio 1.34
If you want the AKU 2 that is still OFFICIALLY shipping then go to http://rapidshare.com/files/17338966/RUU_HER_Cingular_1.34.502.1_1.16.00.00_wwe_cws_ship.exe
Hi. Please I need help
I am using a 8525 (SIM unlocked and SuperCID) device with HTC 1.18.416.1 Rom. Cingular rom do have problems with MMS for me in my country (don´t works), but HTC 1.18 hang up constantly my phone although MMS works fine. With Cingular 1.34 phone works fine (no hang up), but I have the MMS problem.
I do have the HTC Rom ship 1.35 for upgrade and for install right now, but on Wiki I read that the SPL or IPL would be upgraded to 1.09 and is not possible downgrade to 1.06 or 1.04.
Any methods for avoid it????, The explains are very confusing for me. Any help for the upgrade to HTC 1.35 Rom, without the 1.09 ipl or spl problem.
I don´t want problems because when it be available I need chage the rom for my language. In this moment no upgrade rom is available in my language.
Thank you

[Q] Using ROM 2.13 on European HD2s?

Probably a stupid question, but since HTC show no inclination to release the latest ROMs like 2.13 for European phones, does the TMOUS 2.13 ROM work perfectly on European HD2s? Is it the best stock ROM option or are we safer sticking to the WWE 1.66 ROM?
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tmous roms work fine on regular leo. 2.13 isn't the latest, there's a 2.14 somewhere, and even a 3.something, i think, though i'm not sure whether that can be flashed as is or whether It's only for use in cooked roms, so be sure and read around.,
On my T8585 it doesn't work. I had tried many ROMs(TMOUS based and TMOUS stock) and with every single one phone is stuck(completely frozen - only battery removing or soft reset helps) on Launching HTC Sense. All that with 2.08 or 1.66 HSPL and 2.xx.50 radios. If I flash 2.xx.51 radio, phone is able to boot and start Sense but after receiving or making a call the phone is frozen again. But, with 2.xx.51 I can disable HTC Sense. Then I flash back .50 radio. Phone can then work with that radio without Sense but is very unstable and can be frozen at any time. Tried the same scenario with and withouth SD card - no difference.
Tried also latest test ROMs, 3.01 and 3.02 WWE, and 3.04 all watermarked. With any HSPL(1.66,1.43 or 2.08) in hardware information is stated 576MB of RAM, but on SD Card&Phone Storage Settings there is only about 200MB Total program(it should be 448MB). After flashing full test ROM(with new SPL 3.02 - flashed with gold card) memory settings are usual for any standard LEO regardless or flashed radio.
you, my friend, have a fault.
every day dozens(hundreds?) of people flash tmous based roms to regular hd2s with no issues. id start with a flash back to stock, maybe task29 too, if i were you.
i've had a regular leo since january and in all that time it has spent a total of maybe 5 days NOT running a tmous based rom with a tmous radio.
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
miksi said:
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
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ahh well in that case it sounds like you may have a pre production model, and sorry but i dont want to advise you any more, since i have no knowledge of them, except that they dont seem to have the same ammount of RAM as the regular leo.
There is a user called xmoo who is very interested and knowledgable about test models, maybe he can tell you more (and indeed help you tell whether it IS a pre prod or not)
Ja sam imao slične probleme kada sam koristio "stari" HSPL2, pa sam stavio HSPL3 i sve radi savršeno. Moj HD2 je kupljen u HR VIPu isto je došao otključan.
Koristim KWBR 3.12 i Radio: 2.12.50.02_2. Ako si isprobao sve, onda nema druge nego prodaš svoj uređaj i nabaviš drugi... Može bit da je VIP poslao na srbsko tržište neke "čudne" verzije uređaja.
Hello,
Could somebody clarify my mind about differences between rom for European or T-Mobile HD2.
I will receive my HD2 T-Mobile within few days. How can I be sure not to brick it from start ?
I red somewhere that I have to use HSPL3 before flashing any ROM.
If I start with that does my phone protected from bad ROM, can I try every ROM I see or is there something minimum release or something else to take care before selecting ROM ?
If you think I'm out of context, please let me know or reply me using MP.
Ocelot
non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
samsamuel said:
non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
cooked roms will always say in the first few posts whether they are tmous compatible. i've not seen any cooked rom that includes a radio, but so long as you read the first posts, all the info will bethere. if in doubt, simply don't flash it, there are plenty to choose from.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
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It doesn't matter if your phone is a T-Mobile one or not. What does matter is if your phone is a USA T-Mobile. The specification: European model hass a 512MB ROM and 448MB RAM, the USA version has a 1GB ROM and 576MB RAM. Go to the 'Settings' tab, select 'About phone', select 'Hardware information'. There you will see the RAM and ROM information.
If you are flashing an HTC or mobile operators ROM then HSPL is not required. If you want to flash a custom ROM, then HSPL is required. No doubt, in the future you will at least want to try out a custom ROM, therefore it does little harm to flash HSPL to give you more flexability.

[Q] Just installed stock 3.14 ROM. Can I just switch to a previous Radio?

I want to get back to the radio that came with the 1.66 stock ROM installation (2.06.51.07), but keep the current new 3.14 ROM. Is it possible?
If so, what exactly do I have to do? From what I've read, I must install the HSPL2, and flash the radio using Custom RUU. Is that correct? I really want to make sure before attempting that. Besides, what are the possible consequences of installing HSPL2? Will I still be able to flash future stock ROM upgrades after uninstalling it?
My HD2 is the UK Europe version, not branded, and has only used stock ROMs so far (nothing cooked).
Any help would be highly appreciated!
Fore the moment there isn't a compatible HSPL version who is compatible fore SPL 3.03
So you need to wait
Thanks for replying. Then, I think I will roll back to 1.66 for the meantime. Radio performance is very important for obvious reasons, and for me the radio that comes with ROM 3.14 is deficient compared to the previous stock version.

[Q] New radio and new rom but what to overwrite first?

Hi
I'm currently on radio 2.07.51.22_2 with rom Artemis 2.13.531.1 15.5WWE.
I want to change to Energy rom. The thread states that I have to use a 2.xx.50.xx radio and it must be on the phone before I flash the Energy rom as Energy isn't compatible with 2.xx.51 radios.
However I'm not sure Artemis is compatible with 2.xx.50 radios, I remember trying to find a .51 to make sure it worked.
How do you get round this? Sorry, I've looked and searched but couldn't find any solution.
Thanks
Heidi
it doesnt matter. the only slight pitfall is that if you flash a rom that requires a 50 radio whilst you have a 51radio installed, it wont boot past the rgd screen. in that case you enter bootloader, flash the radio and it boots.
I thought .50 radios were for u.s. phones or am I mistaken?
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I thought .50 radios were for u.s. phones or am I mistaken?
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they are, but they also work on the regular hd2. you need a 50 radio for android on a regular hd2, for example, or to unlock the extra ram, or, as in this case, to run a rom built on a 2.x base, (which is from the tmous roms). BUT the opposite is not true, you cannot run a 51 radio on a tmous.
In fact teh latest regular hd2 roms come with ..50 radios now anyway. 2.15.50 in the wwe 3.14 rom.

[Q] HTC ROM and 576MB Unlock issues

Hi,
I have the offical HTC Rom 3.14.405.2.
I have been trying various Radios to unlock the hidden RAM. I have found that Radio_2_07_51_22_2 unlocks the ram, and allows me to run all my applications without memory issues, and don't have to use ClearRAM.
I tried other newer radios, which lock the RAM, giveing me grief.
The problem is I cannot run Android SD Builds using Radio_2_07_51_22_2.
Any ideas on how to get around this, without using Custom ROMs, as I have not found one I like yet.
dilse said:
Hi,
I have the offical HTC Rom 3.14.405.2.
I have been trying various Radios to unlock the hidden RAM. I have found that Radio_2_07_51_22_2 unlocks the ram, and allows me to run all my applications without memory issues, and don't have to use ClearRAM.
I tried other newer radios, which lock the RAM, giveing me grief.
The problem is I cannot run Android SD Builds using Radio_2_07_51_22_2.
Any ideas on how to get around this, without using Custom ROMs, as I have not found one I like yet.
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Sir, first of all if you run stock ROM 3.14 you need to remove HSPL from your device. Reason; HSPL in combination with stock ROM 3.14 coust problems and gives you a limitation of +/-50MB of free program memory.
Secondly stock ROM 3.14 came with the 2.15.50 radio who will deblock the extra ram if you used a custom rom with that option ore a Android NAND build.
Thirdly don't use/install a other radio on stock rom 3.14 (you need HSPL for changing your radio, and like mention before HSPL isn't compatible)
fourthly , Radio 2.07.51 don't unlock the available Ram, it's because you used HSPL in combination with stock ROM 3.14 who let see you these error.
fifthly, Yes, stock ROM 3.14 with his 2.15.50.14 radio will unlock the Ram on a custom ROM; but Stock ROM 3.14 isn't compatible with Android NAND.
PS; this thread belongs to the "HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A and General" thread section, so we will ask to move it there.
I flashed the ROM with HSPL 2.08, and it is still on there, along with the 3.14 ROM.
dilse said:
I flashed the ROM with HSPL 2.08, and it is still on there, along with the 3.14 ROM.
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Like mentioned previously, stock ROM 3.14 and HSPL aren't compatible. So remove HSPL and install stock ROM 3.14 again.
3.14 not for my device
Thanks for your advice so far...
more problems...
As my device is a T-Mobile UK device, I had to use HSPL to get 3.14 on in the 1st place.
What is the best way to get 3.14 on without HSPL?
dilse said:
Thanks for your advice so far...
more problems...
As my device is a T-Mobile UK device, I had to use HSPL to get 3.14 on in the 1st place.
What is the best way to get 3.14 on without HSPL?
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Don't understand way you had need of HSPL, I mean the T-Mobile UK branded device have also received a 3.14 stock ROM update. (RUU_Leo_S_TMO_UK_3.14.110.1)
You can download the RUU_Leo_S_TMO_UK_3.14.110.1 here
So first remove HSPL and install than the stock ROM.
Or easily'er, just flash the right stock ROM over your SD-Card (this will remove HSPL during the installation).
Thanks, but I did not see that on the HTC UK site.
I will download and try.
dilse said:
Thanks, but I did not see that on the HTC UK site.
I will download and try.
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Can happens sir.
Thanks a lot for your help, all is resolved now, I am on 3.14 Stock ROM, without HSPL, and Android on SD works, as well as having my full 576MB RAM.
dilse said:
Thanks a lot for your help, all is resolved now, I am on 3.14 Stock ROM, without HSPL, and Android on SD works, as well as having my full 576MB RAM.
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Happy to see/hear that.
Enjoy.

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