[Q] New radio and new rom but what to overwrite first? - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I'm currently on radio 2.07.51.22_2 with rom Artemis 2.13.531.1 15.5WWE.
I want to change to Energy rom. The thread states that I have to use a 2.xx.50.xx radio and it must be on the phone before I flash the Energy rom as Energy isn't compatible with 2.xx.51 radios.
However I'm not sure Artemis is compatible with 2.xx.50 radios, I remember trying to find a .51 to make sure it worked.
How do you get round this? Sorry, I've looked and searched but couldn't find any solution.
Thanks
Heidi

it doesnt matter. the only slight pitfall is that if you flash a rom that requires a 50 radio whilst you have a 51radio installed, it wont boot past the rgd screen. in that case you enter bootloader, flash the radio and it boots.

I thought .50 radios were for u.s. phones or am I mistaken?

caseyman4285 said:
I thought .50 radios were for u.s. phones or am I mistaken?
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they are, but they also work on the regular hd2. you need a 50 radio for android on a regular hd2, for example, or to unlock the extra ram, or, as in this case, to run a rom built on a 2.x base, (which is from the tmous roms). BUT the opposite is not true, you cannot run a 51 radio on a tmous.
In fact teh latest regular hd2 roms come with ..50 radios now anyway. 2.15.50 in the wwe 3.14 rom.

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Questions & Answers on the locked RADIO 1.34.00.10

Just thought it was better to have one thread in regard to the locked radio included with the "RUU_Hermes_HTC_WWE_2.05.255.1_6275_1.34.00.10 _108 _Test.exe" update. I was one of the people who ran the full update and have now a locked radio bootloader If anyone has any suggestion or ideas on how to reflash the radio part could you post them here in one place!
Oh for what its worth I don't have any issues with this radio I would just like to be able to flash a different radio in the future
ratcom said:
Oh for what its worth I don't have any issues with this radio I would just like to be able to flash a different radio in the future
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You are able to flash different radio, in NBH format and with bootloader 1.09.
Also I recommend you to read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289173
Thanks pof, It all makes sense now! I must say coming from the wizard and universal I'm finding the hermes flashing process allot more hazardous! Theres seems to be allot more effort by HTC to lock the phones down! It’s a real shame as cooking roms and mixing and matching radios with rom is a lot of fun and keeps interest in the phones long after the newness as worn off.
Oh BTW I hope people in the same situation will stubble on this thread instead of posting another "help I cannot flash my radio" post.
1.27
Is 1.27 still the 'prefered' radio rom?
Thanks!I just meet the same problem.
is it juste rom radio ?
here
http://rapidshare.com/files/18091910/RUU_Radio_Only_1.34.00.10.exe
is it juste to flash radio rom ? i think yes but when i try it say that it will install
rom 1.23.163.5 ??.
normal ?
atonparis said:
here
http://rapidshare.com/files/18091910/RUU_Radio_Only_1.34.00.10.exe
is it juste to flash radio rom ? i think yes but when i try it say that it will install
rom 1.23.163.5 ??.
normal ?
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Yes that is mine. It is Radio only 1.34 using Des SSPL. I must have not changed the text file so SSPL reports 1.23, but after install the Radio ROM reports correctly and IS 1.34
is it true ?
Is 1.27 still the 'prefered' radio rom?
I prefer the 1.35.00.11 myself since its the absolute latest radio code available fttb. GPS functionality means that if the hardware mod works then this radio will control GPS as well.
Hi Guys
NEVER FLASHED THE PHONE BEFORE.
I am not really sure what I need to do up update my Vario 2 (UK) to the latest radio ROM 1.35.00.11, never done it before and really want to enable the GPS.
Hopefully if I get that done I will flash up to WMXL 0.10
Cheers for any advice.
If I flash 1.35.11, would my BL level change from 1.07 to 1.08?
Would I lose the ability to flash radio roms using mtty?
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Which "Radio only" upgrade should I use?

I have an Alltel 6800 with the stock WM6 ROM and Radio version 1.40. While I like the idea of using DCD's ROM, and its features, I have heard a few concerns, so I am going to stick with the stock ROM for now. I have seen, however many new upgrades for the radio only. I currently have 1.40 and I have found version 1.47.51 and 1.59 and 2.13 and 3.27. I would like to upgrade my radio only, and not the entire ROM/OS.
I can not be without the phone, so turning it into a brick isn't an option.
1. Does any one have any experience with these other versions of the RADIO only?
2. Would I gain any advantage by upgrading the radio from verison 1.40 to one of these? ( I'm leaning towards upgrading to 1.47.51 )
3. Would I need to contact Alltel to reconfigure it or enable it somehow?
4. Is it worth doing and risking something going wrong?
Thanks for your help and observations.
you can't use any of the 2.xx or 3.xx dcd roms without the radio upgrade you'll want the radio upgrade to 3.27 for gps ;-)
Before you upgrade your Radio, I would be sure it will work with Alltels service. I have Verizon, and i accidentally flashed the Sprint 3.27 Radio to my phone, and it took me a while to find the Verizon 3.27 Radio. My phone was configured to Sprints network, therefore it would not work.
Another thing to remember, make sure you make note of your A-Key (I don't remember how to make a note of it, I think you go into the phone config menu by dialing ##778, go to view info, and A-Key). I just checked my phones A-Key, and its blank.
When I upgraded my radio, I had to call Verizon tech support (I got a recording to dial #8899 which took me to their tech support), and I had the guy update my A-Key (Authentication Key - the recording said my phone could not be authenticated, so I guess this key does that).
-Paul
Now that I think about it, you may be able to use any 3.27 Radio, you will just need to configure the A-Key.
Here is the link to the 3.27 Radio post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362563
Make sure you make a note of what is asked in the first post. If for some reason your phone doesn't make calls afterwards, call Alltel and ask them to update your A-Key. Just say you did a hard reset, and the phone is not making calls.
I know that the old radio won't work on the new ROM, but will the new radio work on the old ROM??
I can't say for sure, but I think it should since there are a lot of new ROMs out there, and they should all work with the Radio. I don't think you need a new ROM to use the new Radio, but I know you need the new Radio to use the new ROM.
including the gps drivers causes the phone to freeze on the splash screen with any radio other than 3.27.00.
(read: non-gps roms need a radio 1.30.00 - 1.47.01. gps roms need 3.27.00)
there is only one 3.27.00 radio, there are no carrier specific versions of radios. if you are using a non-gps rom and just want the newest radio, just flash it, nothing to reprogram.
1.47.01 did not properly report roaming for me and seemed slower to connect. i use 1.40.00 with non-gps roms.
1.17.00 was from sprint rom prerelease
1.30.00 was from verizon rom release
1.32.00 was from sprint 2.08 rom release
1.40.00 was from alltel 2.14 rom release
1.47.00 was from sprint 2.16 rom release
1.47.01 was from sprint 2.17 rom release
2.06.0D was taken from a vogue rom im not sure of
2.13.00 was taken from bell vogue 1.17 rom release
3.27.00 enables GPS and rev a and came from sprint 3.16 rom
hope this helps
dcd1182 said:
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there is only one 3.27.00 radio, there are no carrier specific versions of radios. if you are using a non-gps rom and just want the newest radio, just flash it, nothing to reprogram.
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Are you saying that the 3.27 radio works properly with the 2.17 ROM and the old bootloader?
and the $64K question, is there any advantage in upgrading the radio only? Better reception, better roaming, better EVDO holding and not droppping back to 1X, things like that?
bakntyme said:
Are you saying that the 3.27 radio works properly with the 2.17 ROM and the old bootloader?
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no, 3.27.00 only works with a rom using 3.16 nk.exe and oemdrivers.
bakntyme said:
dcd1182 said:
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there is only one 3.27.00 radio, there are no carrier specific versions of radios. if you are using a non-gps rom and just want the newest radio, just flash it, nothing to reprogram.
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Are you saying that the 3.27 radio works properly with the 2.17 ROM and the old bootloader?
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dcd1182 said:
no, 3.27.00 only works with a rom using 3.16 nk.exe and oemdrivers.
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OK, wanted to clarify that...I read what you said about the newest radio and non-gps ROM as applying to the 3.27 radio...when you said "just flash it", you were referring to a 1.xx radio, not the 3.27 from the previous sentence. Thanks!
bakntyme said:
when you said "just flash it", you were referring to a 1.xx radio, not the 3.27 from the previous sentence.
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yeah, sorry about that
I've been using the 2.13 radio listed by dcd on the xv6800 with a non-gps rom. I find it more stable, better sounding and with no bluetooth drops, than either the stock 1.30 that it came with, or the 1.40 radio that many were using before the gps roms became available.
I also flashed back to this after doing the 3.27 radio upgrade with a gps rom. Just had too many issues with the radio, so I'm waiting for a newer (better???) radio version to try again.

How do I change the radio version?

I am trying to get TNT .20273 working on my G4, but my radio version is 2.30.11 and I heard this is why its not working correctly. I downloaded the T-Mobile 2.19.11, but I have Cingular...will this make a difference? Do I flash this like any other ROM? Do I need to flash this before or after I flash a new ROM?
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
Well I got TNT .20273 "working", but I was always getting missed calls and texts and whenever I would soft reset I would get like 10 cannot load blah blah file and I read somewere it was because the radio version I had. Plus I heard 2.19.11 was the best with no dropped calls and such.
al0ns0 said:
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
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First determine which version is your phone,G3 or G4,its very important,coz method for flashing a rom is altogether different for both the devices.
HardSPL and SoftSPL are solely meant to flash a G4 device and shud not be done for a G3 phone,likewise CID unlocking method for a G3 phone,through lokiwiz02b or WST_4.2.2 Tool, shud not be carried out on a G4 device.
You need to do alot of reading to understand all these methods,So..... get going!!! or else you might end up 'Bricking" your phone
zabardast_1 said:
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
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ok so you said that. i'd like to say, i have a g3 with radio 02.25.11 and i'm fixin to use a multitude of different roms i've found here .. some with touch flow, others are this and that. but none of them say anything about radio roms or compatibility or dropped call count. so my question to you is, will this radio rom i have make a difference? am i going to have to change radio roms or no?
This is the G4 subforum
Radio 2.19.11 is recommended.
Thanks a lot zabardast_1!
I did the reading and the upgrade. Evertyhing went great and my wizard is now running WM 6.1 and working great.
I do have a follow up question though. I noticed there are different ROMs and the today screen looks different (the way the clock is shown, the icons available, etc).
Is there any way to change the way things look without changing the ROM?
Thanks again!

[Q] Using ROM 2.13 on European HD2s?

Probably a stupid question, but since HTC show no inclination to release the latest ROMs like 2.13 for European phones, does the TMOUS 2.13 ROM work perfectly on European HD2s? Is it the best stock ROM option or are we safer sticking to the WWE 1.66 ROM?
Cheers
tmous roms work fine on regular leo. 2.13 isn't the latest, there's a 2.14 somewhere, and even a 3.something, i think, though i'm not sure whether that can be flashed as is or whether It's only for use in cooked roms, so be sure and read around.,
On my T8585 it doesn't work. I had tried many ROMs(TMOUS based and TMOUS stock) and with every single one phone is stuck(completely frozen - only battery removing or soft reset helps) on Launching HTC Sense. All that with 2.08 or 1.66 HSPL and 2.xx.50 radios. If I flash 2.xx.51 radio, phone is able to boot and start Sense but after receiving or making a call the phone is frozen again. But, with 2.xx.51 I can disable HTC Sense. Then I flash back .50 radio. Phone can then work with that radio without Sense but is very unstable and can be frozen at any time. Tried the same scenario with and withouth SD card - no difference.
Tried also latest test ROMs, 3.01 and 3.02 WWE, and 3.04 all watermarked. With any HSPL(1.66,1.43 or 2.08) in hardware information is stated 576MB of RAM, but on SD Card&Phone Storage Settings there is only about 200MB Total program(it should be 448MB). After flashing full test ROM(with new SPL 3.02 - flashed with gold card) memory settings are usual for any standard LEO regardless or flashed radio.
you, my friend, have a fault.
every day dozens(hundreds?) of people flash tmous based roms to regular hd2s with no issues. id start with a flash back to stock, maybe task29 too, if i were you.
i've had a regular leo since january and in all that time it has spent a total of maybe 5 days NOT running a tmous based rom with a tmous radio.
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
miksi said:
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
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ahh well in that case it sounds like you may have a pre production model, and sorry but i dont want to advise you any more, since i have no knowledge of them, except that they dont seem to have the same ammount of RAM as the regular leo.
There is a user called xmoo who is very interested and knowledgable about test models, maybe he can tell you more (and indeed help you tell whether it IS a pre prod or not)
Ja sam imao slične probleme kada sam koristio "stari" HSPL2, pa sam stavio HSPL3 i sve radi savršeno. Moj HD2 je kupljen u HR VIPu isto je došao otključan.
Koristim KWBR 3.12 i Radio: 2.12.50.02_2. Ako si isprobao sve, onda nema druge nego prodaš svoj uređaj i nabaviš drugi... Može bit da je VIP poslao na srbsko tržište neke "čudne" verzije uređaja.
Hello,
Could somebody clarify my mind about differences between rom for European or T-Mobile HD2.
I will receive my HD2 T-Mobile within few days. How can I be sure not to brick it from start ?
I red somewhere that I have to use HSPL3 before flashing any ROM.
If I start with that does my phone protected from bad ROM, can I try every ROM I see or is there something minimum release or something else to take care before selecting ROM ?
If you think I'm out of context, please let me know or reply me using MP.
Ocelot
non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
cooked roms will always say in the first few posts whether they are tmous compatible. i've not seen any cooked rom that includes a radio, but so long as you read the first posts, all the info will bethere. if in doubt, simply don't flash it, there are plenty to choose from.
ocelot8754 said:
Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
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It doesn't matter if your phone is a T-Mobile one or not. What does matter is if your phone is a USA T-Mobile. The specification: European model hass a 512MB ROM and 448MB RAM, the USA version has a 1GB ROM and 576MB RAM. Go to the 'Settings' tab, select 'About phone', select 'Hardware information'. There you will see the RAM and ROM information.
If you are flashing an HTC or mobile operators ROM then HSPL is not required. If you want to flash a custom ROM, then HSPL is required. No doubt, in the future you will at least want to try out a custom ROM, therefore it does little harm to flash HSPL to give you more flexability.

Two questions about Stock Rom and Radio (T-Mobile GERMAN)

hey mates
i've got two questions:
i know some things about hspl and so on
i know that you can revert everything back to stock by flashing a stock rom via sd card.
but now i'm wondering if you need to flash any of your stock roms (so for example 1.48, 1.66, 1.72, etc. if you have a htc phone) or do you need YOUR rom (which was originally installed on your phone, for example your phone was delivered with 1.48, so you need 1.48 to revert everything back to stock).
i'm wondering because mine is originally t-mobile branded. it came with 1.48 tmo ger to me..but this rom isnt out there, theres just the 1.72 t-mobile one.
so am i able to revert everything back to stock by flashing 1.72 t-mobile rom via sd card or do i need 1.48 (which isnt really out there)?
my second question is about radio:
i know that you need a .50 radio for enabling full ram and for running android.
i'm currently running the 1.48 stock rom (htc, not t-mobile). if i would like to have a .50 radio, do i need a new (maybe costum) rom, or will this radio work with the 1.48 rom?
thanks for help.
DN41
DN41 said:
i'm wondering because mine is originally t-mobile branded. it came with 1.48 tmo ger to me..but this rom isnt out there, theres just the 1.72 t-mobile one.
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the 1,72 will be fine. so long as it is branded for your phone, it is fine.
my second question is about radio:
i know that you need a .50 radio for enabling full ram and for running android.
i'm currently running the 1.48 stock rom (htc, not t-mobile). if i would like to have a .50 radio, do i need a new (maybe costum) rom, or will this radio work with the 1.48 rom?
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must be a custom rom (or a tmous rom). Only roms that use a tmous base (nk.exe) in partnership with a ..50.. radio will unlock the ram.
thanks samsamuel
one maybe silly question: what if i would install a .50 radio with that rom? what the radio part of the phone be unusable? or would nothing change?
DN41
it comes with a 50 radio.
There is a thread HERE where someone says the tmous 2.15.50 and the wwe 2.15.50 radio are slightly different. Just gotta wait and see what people report.
If i had the time and inclination i would flash teh tmous 3.14 rom and radio, just to see whether it unlocks the 576.

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