X10 mini 2.1 Discharges when charging via USB - Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini

Ever since I updated to 2.1 it seems that when my battery gets around 15% and I try to charge it via USB, nothing happens and the battery just drains even faster.
The only way to make it charge, is to switch of the device entirely and charge it while it's off.
Im not sure if anyone else has this problem?

I'm not entirely sure but I think that's a bug that has always existed on the X10 series, it has happened too me too in Donut

Yeah, I've seen this happen too. Turning the phone off and on again usually seems to make it charge properly

When charging via a laptop i've seen the charge go down when i've had the wireless on and been playing movies etc...
Possibly because the amount of charge than can be delivered via a usb (not connected to a plug) is very small

Same here. It happened to me in Donut and also now in Eclair. But in my home PC and Laptop it charges normaly but slow. But in my office PC it gets discharged. Is there anything with the PC too?

i did a bit of a quick test myself on this yesterday.
i plugged my phone into the usb and set it to the charge phone option, then closed all apps, turned off data connection and gps and left it with the screen off for 30 mins. after this time my batter had dropped by 2%. i unplugged the phone from the laptop and left it, again with the screen, data and 3g off and in 30 mins the charge dropped by just 1%.
there must be a bug with this in the system somewhere as this is soo annoying for me. i will try and turn the phone off and charge it later [when the battery dies after less than 8 hours with normal use] and see if that works.
got to say that i am very disappointed by this :-(

right for an update. i have just connected my phone to the wall charger, left the data connection and 3g on and left it charging for 30 mins. the result was an increase in charge of 17%!!!!!! thats more like it

parthabhatta said:
Same here. It happened to me in Donut and also now in Eclair. But in my home PC and Laptop it charges normaly but slow. But in my office PC it gets discharged. Is there anything with the PC too?
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The USB spec provides for 500mA of current at a USB port but it could drop to the lowest spec'd voltage while doing so, which could reduce the charging rate even more. If the USB port is actually a secondary port from an internal, self-powered hub, it might even limit the current to 100mA. It all depends, many USB implementations aren't known for following the spec's terribly well.
Some newer USB ports will comply with the latest spec's that allow higher charging currents (to 900 or even 1500mA).

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battery drain while tethering (wired)

I find that when I tether via PDANet using a USB that the battery will slowly drain depending on how much data usage is going on.
I'm assuming this is normal as it happens with the stock battery & the extended battery.
However, if I do wifi tethering via Barnacle Wifi it does not drain... but then again, the speeds also aren't as fast.
hmmm... õ_Ô
every application is different in regards to battery usage and whatnot. if u like the speed of pdanet, keep it and plug it into the wall. it should be enough to charge through the drain.
th3_g00b said:
every application is different in regards to battery usage and whatnot. if u like the speed of pdanet, keep it and plug it into the wall. it should be enough to charge through the drain.
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well, it is being plugged in while using PDANet... that's how it works. connecting the phone to your PC via USB cable & 'tethering'... so when you say 'keep it plugged in', are you implying that there's some sort of USB splitter cable i should be using to connect my phone to my PC and the wall jack at the same time? õ_Ô
All i do is plug the phone into the pc and leave it for a minute then activate PDAnet and my power is fine...
Jrocker23 said:
All i do is plug the phone into the pc and leave it for a minute then activate PDAnet and my power is fine...
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I've done that before to. It seems to happen primarily when I'm downloading something. If I'm just doing ordinary web browsing then it does not happen.
When I download via wifi, it averages 100Kb/s... and no battery drain
When I download via PDANet, it averages 700Kb/s... battery drain city
The phone gets very hot also(shouldn't be a reception issue since it'll have full bars and get hot). and of course, it does not get hot doing wifi.
I seem to remember reading a few threads in the past about the TB not taking a charge if it gets too hot and basically overheating. I know mine gets really warm when using navigation and plugged into a cigarette lighter. It may be worth it try a different microUSB cable if you have one handy.
I guess moving all those bits around generates a lot of heat
As for battery drain, you may try a different "preferably on the back of your pc" usb port. Of course the rom\kernel your running also has an effect on the heat generated. Just my own personal experiences. Hope it helps
sadly, yes i've already tried different microUSB cables and even tried it on different laptops. i've used both Sense & AOSP based roms with various kernals/radios and have always seemed to have this issue.
maybe i'm pushin' this old phone too much. ;P

[Q] battery issue? decrease of % when the phone is charging

Hello i've having a small problem with my battery of my xperia x10. i'm putting the phone for charging and instead of increasing the charging % is decrease it but i dont know why. sometimes i'm leaving the phone for charging all night and when i'm waking up i saw that my battery is not fully charged. is this a rom problem or battery problem?
btw i'm having lock bootloader, stock kernel and this custom rom Achotjan_Stock_Remplacement_And_Firmware Update
thanks a lot
It is normal....battery heats up and then starts draining, just unplug it for 5mins and then replug...now it will charge normally...and dont put your phone on charging whole night...that may decrease battery life...
Try it !!!
because nowadays batteries don't charge all the time! They're intelligent, so they charge up to 100%, stop charching, its going down till 92-94% and then recharging up to 100%, and then stop again..... so thats why even if you let you're phone charge for 10h you might end up with a 92% charged phone!
Haldi4803 said:
because nowadays batteries don't charge all the time! They're intelligent, so they charge up to 100%, stop charching, its going down till 92-94% and then recharging up to 100%, and then stop again..... so thats why even if you let you're phone charge for 10h you might end up with a 92% charged phone!
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yes but the problem if my battery is 10% and i put it for charge after few minutes is goes to 8% or is degrease instead of increase. why?
giwrgos said:
yes but the problem if my battery is 10% and i put it for charge after few minutes is goes to 8% or is degrease instead of increase. why?
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Bad usb cable? Or bad charger.
I have a usb cord that will charge my x10 but not Ion.
From market get 'current widget' app. With it you can read how much amps coming from charger. A usb charger should be about 400 ma, milli-amps or .4 amps.
~Jaramie
from my LT28at rooted & eating an Ice Cream Sandwich
ToledoJab said:
Bad usb cable? Or bad charger.
I have a usb cord that will charge my x10 but not Ion.
From market get 'current widget' app. With it you can read how much amps coming from charger. A usb charger should be about 400 ma, milli-amps or .4 amps.
~Jaramie
from my LT28at rooted & eating an Ice Cream Sandwich
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i have tested it. at the beginning started with 400-450 after a few minutes went to 100ma
giwrgos said:
i have tested it. at the beginning started with 400-450 after a few minutes went to 100ma
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Ok so that means the charger is working.
Did you notice the battery temp? compare the temps from before, during, and when it drops .
From 0% to 100% charge takes you how long? Should be 1-3 hours.
Leaning to bad battery as reason.
~Jaramie
from my LT28at rooted & eating an Ice Cream Sandwich
ToledoJab said:
Ok so that means the charger is working.
Did you notice the battery temp? compare the temps from before, during, and when it drops .
From 0% to 100% charge takes you how long? Should be 1-3 hours.
Leaning to bad battery as reason.
~Jaramie
from my LT28at rooted & eating an Ice Cream Sandwich
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i think it was 50%
giwrgos said:
Hello i've having a small problem with my battery of my xperia x10. i'm putting the phone for charging and instead of increasing the charging % is decrease it but i dont know why. sometimes i'm leaving the phone for charging all night and when i'm waking up i saw that my battery is not fully charged. is this a rom problem or battery problem?
btw i'm having lock bootloader, stock kernel and this custom rom Achotjan_Stock_Remplacement_And_Firmware Update
thanks a lot
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I have the same problem on x10 mini u20i.. I had in on stock, and now I have it on miniCM7-2.2.1.. I've been reading a bit, and I think it is a hardware issue..
My phone simply won't charge, if I plug it into a regular charger.. The phone will seem like it charges, but in reality the battery is draining (might even be draining faster than when is simply unplugged).
If I leave it charging through the night, the phone will be completely dead in the morning, and sometimes I have to leave the phone connected to my pc for hours, before it gains a little bit of juice and starts actually charging.
In fact the only way (I know of) to charge my phone, is to connect it to a pc with a USB cable, and even then I mostly have to connect the phone, disconnect it and the connect it again for the charging to initiate.
I read somewhere, that a guy was only able to charge his phone with the charger from the cigarette lighter in his car. He mentioned (from what I remember), that the cigarette lighter ran at 12V, but the normal cell phone chargers runs at 6V, and that causes problems for the x10 (mini). I have no idea if he is right though.. Does anybody know if this is a valid point or BS?
Anyway for a quick workaround, charge the phone from you PC
papagoejoe said:
I have the same problem on x10 mini u20i.. I had in on stock, and now I have it on miniCM7-2.2.1.. I've been reading a bit, and I think it is a hardware issue..
My phone simply won't charge, if I plug it into a regular charger.. The phone will seem like it charges, but in reality the battery is draining (might even be draining faster than when is simply unplugged).
If I leave it charging through the night, the phone will be completely dead in the morning, and sometimes I have to leave the phone connected to my pc for hours, before it gains a little bit of juice and starts actually charging.
In fact the only way (I know of) to charge my phone, is to connect it to a pc with a USB cable, and even then I mostly have to connect the phone, disconnect it and the connect it again for the charging to initiate.
I read somewhere, that a guy was only able to charge his phone with the charger from the cigarette lighter in his car. He mentioned (from what I remember), that the cigarette lighter ran at 12V, but the normal cell phone chargers runs at 6V, and that causes problems for the x10 (mini). I have no idea if he is right though.. Does anybody know if this is a valid point or BS?
Anyway for a quick workaround, charge the phone from you PC
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BS . 12 volts is the input volts for a car charger. All micro-USB chargers should run @ 5 volts and vary in amps. Your phone has smart charger built into kernel. The charger itself is just a power supply. Kernel controls the applied amps.
~Jaramie
from my LT28at tweaked with Ice Cream all over it.
ToledoJab said:
BS . 12 volts is the input volts for a car charger. All micro-USB chargers should run @ 5 volts and vary in amps. Your phone has smart charger built into kernel. The charger itself is just a power supply. Kernel controls the applied amps.
~Jaramie
from my LT28at tweaked with Ice Cream all over it.
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Yeah I kinda thought so.. I would think that it made no difference where the power came from, but my phone seems to disagree.. It simply does not charge, unless I plug the USB cable into a computer..
And it will only take seconds of googling to find out, that lots of people have this or similar problems..
Anyway, OP and others, the only answer I've found, is that the microUSB port easily gets dirty, and the right amount of wiggling with the cord or cleaning the microUSB port with a dry (!) toothbrush and a vacuum cleaner or air blower might help..
Charger
giwrgos said:
i have tested it. at the beginning started with 400-450 after a few minutes went to 100ma
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You'll probably need a new charger, but a generical USB charger is very, very cheap.
Before buying the new one, is useful testing your old device this way:
Please, try to charge your mobile using a computer. If you charge normally you've confirmed that your trouble is in the charger (since in that case your battery is OK and your USB cable and connectors are also OK).
But if you can't charge even in your computer, please do experiment another USB cable. If even so you can't charge, the culprit will be the battery or the USB connector (less probable).
I'm not sure if this is relevant but I had a simular issue like this but not all the time. Was a kernel issue, but before you jump into flashing a new kernel or rom, have you tried charging the phone after you've switched it off?
Sent from my X10 using xda app-developers app
giwrgos said:
Hello i've having a small problem with my battery of my xperia x10. i'm putting the phone for charging and instead of increasing the charging % is decrease it but i dont know why. sometimes i'm leaving the phone for charging all night and when i'm waking up i saw that my battery is not fully charged. is this a rom problem or battery problem?
btw i'm having lock bootloader, stock kernel and this custom rom Achotjan_Stock_Remplacement_And_Firmware Update
thanks a lot
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I had the same problem on my xperia x10 mini, when being charged it increases at first, after a few minutes the % decreases, What I did is I flashed a new kernel the nAa kernel for gingerbread and installed a custom rom, which is CM7 2.2, and voala!, I was surprised that its working again, I send the phone to sony ericsson support center and they said it had board damage, but what I think is that there was a proble on the kernel update to eclair or 2.1 that's why it happened, so just try flashing a new kernel using the flashtool, gud luck mate...
PLZ HELP
PLZ HELP..... MY PHONE x10 mini
pro....android vesion 2.1.......
Heats up while surfing internet on
2g network and the battery is also
heated up and drained so quickly
(just 10 percent from 100 percent
in 40 minutes as compared to wifi
which runs for atleast 2.5 hours)
.the loud speaker gives very very
humble sound (the same sound
when a cell phne during call is put
near a AM radio)......how to correct
it????
ahsanbhai420 said:
PLZ HELP..... MY PHONE x10 mini
pro....android vesion 2.1.......
Heats up while surfing internet on
2g network and the battery is also
heated up and drained so quickly
(just 10 percent from 100 percent
in 40 minutes as compared to wifi
which runs for atleast 2.5 hours)
.the loud speaker gives very very
humble sound (the same sound
when a cell phne during call is put
near a AM radio)......how to correct
it????
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Install a 2.3 based rom mate this should remedy the problem
Requires unlock bootloader first if you have not done already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=986692
Then install this rom this is bugless in my opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357273
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Usb instanly drains 2% battery - Iconia A1-810

First, sorry if this is a known problem but I couln't find anything similar enough on forum search or google.
Now, I know USB only charges @ 500mA, the iconia's wall wart charges at 2A.
So problem isn't that it slowly discharges the battery when connected to usb, but rather that whenever i connect the usb to pc it shaves 2% off the battery instantly until it hits about 12%.
That means that if I connect the usb repeatedly, i'm able to go from 100 to 12% in a matter of seconds, since each time i connect it, it drops 2% and when it hits 12% the issue goes away.
Other than that, battery life seems fine to be honest.
What gives? Anyone knows anything about it?
Sorry again if this is a known issue, noob here.

[Q] Battery Wtf

So i just played with Custom ROMs to find the best for me...
But from one point my Phone f*cked up the battery detecting...
CM9 and CM9 detect the battery at 45% and then he Level instantly just drop to 0%...
I cant even restart my phone, so i guess the battery really went out...
So how can i fix, that the ROM would not detect it 45% but 3-4% ?
And let me fully chage my phone ?
Stock rom Always Detect it 100% and then randonly the phone shut down in random times (cuz it drops the level to 0%)
I've tried the "Fully-Charge, Fully-Discharge" But the ROM still detect the Battery wrong...
Even tried to delete the battery stats...
Any solution, or idea ?
I currently use CM with the built-in CM9 kernel...
I think its battery problem.use a new battery.ur prblm will be solved
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RabirX said:
So i just played with Custom ROMs to find the best for me...
But from one point my Phone f*cked up the battery detecting...
CM9 and CM9 detect the battery at 45% and then he Level instantly just drop to 0%...
I cant even restart my phone, so i guess the battery really went out...
So how can i fix, that the ROM would not detect it 45% but 3-4% ?
And let me fully chage my phone ?
Stock rom Always Detect it 100% and then randonly the phone shut down in random times (cuz it drops the level to 0%)
I've tried the "Fully-Charge, Fully-Discharge" But the ROM still detect the Battery wrong...
Even tried to delete the battery stats...
Any solution, or idea ?
I currently use CM with the built-in CM9 kernel...
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How old is the battery? What charging cable are you using and what is the cable plugged into?
If the battery is more then a year old it could be 'tired' and not holding a charge correctly (trying another known good battery in your phone will determine this, as will trying your battery in another phone, and if it works well you may have more issues to deal with). If you got the phone second hand, you have no way of knowing the battery's history. Repeated overcharging is also not recommended, as well as leaving the battery in very hot places as it can damage the onboard circuitry in the battery.
Cheap aftermarket (non OEM) USB cables are not that great imo, they are generally not as well made and soon get loose connections, resulting in poor connectivity (charging with a bad cable can also damage the battery). Always use the original cable or a good quality aftermarket one, like Belkin.
Charging the phone from a USB port on a PC or laptop (and/or via a USB hub) is not as efficient as charging it directly from a wall mains USB adapter, because the power often gets interrupted. Ideally for the best charge you should turn the phone off and use a wall/mains socket USB lead, so as give a direct, constant, power supply to charge a battery. A typical full charge is done in two hours. If you charge this way and the battery still has issues buy a new one.
smirnofred said:
How old is the battery? What charging cable are you using and what is the cable plugged into?
If the battery is more then a year old it could be 'tired' and not holding a charge correctly (trying another known good battery in your phone will determine this, as will trying your battery in another phone, and if it works well you may have more issues to deal with). If you got the phone second hand, you have no way of knowing the battery's history. Repeated overcharging is also not recommended, as well as leaving the battery in very hot places as it can damage the onboard circuitry in the battery.
Cheap aftermarket (non OEM) USB cables are not that great imo, they are generally not as well made and soon get loose connections, resulting in poor connectivity (charging with a bad cable can also damage the battery). Always use the original cable or a good quality aftermarket one, like Belkin.
Charging the phone from a USB port on a PC or laptop (and/or via a USB hub) is not as efficient as charging it directly from a wall mains USB adapter, because the power often gets interrupted. Ideally for the best charge you should turn the phone off and use a wall/mains socket USB lead, so as give a direct, constant, power supply to charge a battery. A typical full charge is done in two hours. If you charge this way and the battery still has issues buy a new one.
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First of all, the Phone is manufactured in 11W41 (2011 Week #41) and the battery in 11W39 (2011 Week #39)
I use a tipical Micro USB charger which does not connect to the wall with USB but the cable directly integrated into the adapter...
And the phone's shipped official cable to charge throught my PC...
The battery worked fine before i forgot to delete battery stats and flashed a ROM...
After that, all ROM is getting fake battery data...
After using my phone i noticed:
-When the phone displays 70-80% charge, the battery actually have 10-15%
-When the battery reach 0% the phone not just jumps to 0% but the Phone shut down within a half second (as no more energy)
-When i charge it to 3-4% the phone show 80% again...
-So i can charge it to about 10 or max 15% when the OS detect 100% and does not charge it further more, which prevent me from properly re-calibrate the battery stats, cuz 10-15 will be always the max charge of the battery...
Now i'm looking for some kind of Mod / App that fake the Battery level to the OS (for example lock it to 5% and the OS continue to charge the battery) i know its dangerious cuz if i'm not aware i'll overcharge it and it will die permanently, but i have no better idea ATM...
Update: Sometimes after my phone dies from no remaining electron in the battery It displays 5% charge when i switch it on while connected to a charger (the only way i can switch it on) And starts to increase.. (5-6-7-8 etc..)
But sometimes it instantly jumps up to 70-80% if i think right when the screen switches of..
So i enabled "No-screen-off-whili-on-charger" and letit charging..
Will notice you about the result...
RabirX said:
First of all, the Phone is manufactured in 11W41 (2011 Week #41) and the battery in 11W39 (2011 Week #39)
I use a tipical Micro USB charger which does not connect to the wall with USB but the cable directly integrated into the adapter...
And the phone's shipped official cable to charge throught my PC...
The battery worked fine before i forgot to delete battery stats and flashed a ROM...
After that, all ROM is getting fake battery data...
After using my phone i noticed:
-When the phone displays 70-80% charge, the battery actually have 10-15%
-When the battery reach 0% the phone not just jumps to 0% but the Phone shut down within a half second (as no more energy)
-When i charge it to 3-4% the phone show 80% again...
-So i can charge it to about 10 or max 15% when the OS detect 100% and does not charge it further more, which prevent me from properly re-calibrate the battery stats, cuz 10-15 will be always the max charge of the battery...
Now i'm looking for some kind of Mod / App that fake the Battery level to the OS (for example lock it to 5% and the OS continue to charge the battery) i know its dangerious cuz if i'm not aware i'll overcharge it and it will die permanently, but i have no better idea ATM...
Update: Sometimes after my phone dies from no remaining electron in the battery It displays 5% charge when i switch it on while connected to a charger (the only way i can switch it on) And starts to increase.. (5-6-7-8 etc..)
But sometimes it instantly jumps up to 70-80% if i think right when the screen switches of..
So i enabled "No-screen-off-whili-on-charger" and letit charging..
Will notice you about the result...
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try reflash stock.ics ftf should fix this
Already tried, the Stock rom always showed 100% charge, and when the battery ran out, just powered off...
(Jumped from 100 to 0 instantly)
As i mentioned, in the reply you quoted, today it started charging from 0...
It went good, but somewhy, it just stopped at 26% and not a single volt went into the Battery...
As i Pulled out the Cable, the indicator jumped to 100 instantly...
Can you link several stock ROMs ?
I've tried with the 4.0.4 Android
but maybe the 2.3 can still work with it...
RabirX said:
Already tried, the Stock rom always showed 100% charge, and when the battery ran out, just powered off...
(Jumped from 100 to 0 instantly)
As i mentioned, in the reply you quoted, today it started charging from 0...
It went good, but somewhy, it just stopped at 26% and not a single volt went into the Battery...
As i Pulled out the Cable, the indicator jumped to 100 instantly...
Can you link several stock ROMs ?
I've tried with the 4.0.4 Android
but maybe the 2.3 can still work with it...
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but i think theres some HW damage. even if not rhe battery maybe some config chip is broken or whatever on the board. normally flashing a stock.ics.ftf resloves all software issues, as its resets all stuff to factory..
anyway, here u can find links to other android versions: http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Andro...y-Bean-ICS-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-and/td-p/154389
bejunk said:
but i think theres some HW damage. even if not rhe battery maybe some config chip is broken or whatever on the board. normally flashing a stock.ics.ftf resloves all software issues, as its resets all stuff to factory..
anyway, here u can find links to other android versions:
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One solution still, that my frind has the same phone as me, so when i meet him, he can charge my battery to really full and maybe when i insert it to my phone it might work...

[Q] Wont Charge

My nexus said it was charging when i went to bed but now it wont charge or connect to the computer? help would be appreciated
never mind i flashed fire-ice kernel instead of the elemental x, and it started working...
Funny you posted this...
I've not had problems with it charging or connecting to a computer.
Although, I've had problems getting the damn thing to charge while I'm using it.
Even with it plugged into a 2.1A charger it usually keeps the same charge or even drops 1-2% while playing a game or whatever.
If I keep it at idle or in sleep it charges no problem. Not sure what the problem Is, I mean if it's inputting 2.1A which is limited by the Kernel to 900mA (Why that is-- is stupid).
I'm assuming that the device uses somewhere at the ~1.2A under full load.
I had that same problem
I never had the not charging issue until today

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