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Good afternoon, everyone. I am sure this have been covered before.
I own a Cingular 8525 and I am using the latest official release. I understand a new ROM will be released shortly and I'd like to know how to install the ROM without all the bloat that Cingular builds into it.
However, I need the custom settings, such as the settings for GPRS (I utilize Push) and other Cingular settings (such as TXT settings and voicemail) that are needed.
From what I gather you can soft reset before the custom installation, but that's where I need to know what to do to get the settings in place. I imagine from what I've read that this is easy but I can't find how others have done it.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I'd like to be able to print any help for future reference.
Thank you in advance.
Most of the 'BLOAT' is built into the ROM itself anyway, so you would need to 'bake' the ROM in order to get rid of it which would be a bigger P.I.T.A than it is worth. If you are wishing to go for a 'clean' ROM with minimal crap in it then you could always try one of the latest WM6 ROMs, black (for example) has a cingular flavour which you can use (it has all the standard cingular stuff in it, except it is WM6). Id recommend giving that a shot if you wanna try it.
To upgrade to black 2.5 you can use my guide and when you come to the part where you download the ROM select the one for cingular users.
Thank you for the link, however, I do not want to use unofficial releases.
I don't necessarily agree with everything you've said. Granted, I am sure you have more experience when it comes to this.
I did a hard reset on my phone a few months ago and then a soft reset before the custom installation started. Much of the bloat was absent but I couldn't figure out those custom settings that I did need.
Maybe I am mistaken...?
what custom settings do you need? thats where im a little confuzzuled.. the data settings? the MMS settings? if thats it they can all be installed with ne effort byy using the Cingular Settings cab thats floating around. other than the data and MMS which can also be entered manualy if you know them by heart or write them down before upgrading the rom. come to think of all can be installed by cabs just.
madmatt079 said:
Thank you for the link, however, I do not want to use unofficial releases.
I don't necessarily agree with everything you've said. Granted, I am sure you have more experience when it comes to this.
I did a hard reset on my phone a few months ago and then a soft reset before the custom installation started. Much of the bloat was absent but I couldn't figure out those custom settings that I did need.
Maybe I am mistaken...?
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All you do with a hard reset is remove apps or whatever else you installed in the device. You can't remove this "bloat", or in other words, what the phone had when you first turned it on. It's in the ROM, and what the post above already told you, you can only get a basic ROM without the added crap if you upgrade to WM6. Are you looking for a WM5 that someone bothered to take the time to remove stuff from? That's, um, as they said at Bastogne, nuts!
Guys, I'm not looking to incite an arguement, but I know this is not the case.
For instance, when I did a hard reset then a soft reset before the customization began I didn't have a bunch of applications, such as: ClearVue PDF, Download Agent, Voice Speed Dial, SIM Manager, Zip, and a few others.
Now, that is only if I recall correctly, but I am fairly certain that at least a few of those were in fact missing. I also didn't have the Cingular theme.
As I previously said, I have not and do not want to use an unofficially released ROM.
I have a colleague that has the MDA (T-Mobile) and he told me about this process. However, he could only provide me with information related to the MDA.
austinsync: Could you please point me in the direction of the settings CAB or the settings for MMS/data/etc. for the 8525?
Thanks everyone for reading and attempting to help/or helping. Thanks.
The best way to find out what "bloat" you have is to unlock your extended rom and check what cab files are included in it. Anything else on your phone is either part of the ROM or installed by you later.
There's one method of unlocking/unhiding here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283750 or if you know the ROM version the extended ROM contents may already be listed here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
You can also modify your extended ROM (but I can't find the tutorial at the moment) , and there are also many links to cab files for the Cingular settings.
The only problem with researching for this info is that it'll open your eyes to the many possibilities the Hermes has and you may get hooked on WM6 and upgrading
madmatt079 said:
Guys, I'm not looking to incite an arguement, but I know this is not the case.
For instance, when I did a hard reset then a soft reset before the customization began I didn't have a bunch of applications, such as: ClearVue PDF, Download Agent, Voice Speed Dial, SIM Manager, Zip, and a few others.
Now, that is only if I recall correctly, but I am fairly certain that at least a few of those were in fact missing. I also didn't have the Cingular theme.
As I previously said, I have not and do not want to use an unofficially released ROM.
I have a colleague that has the MDA (T-Mobile) and he told me about this process. However, he could only provide me with information related to the MDA.
austinsync: Could you please point me in the direction of the settings CAB or the settings for MMS/data/etc. for the 8525?
Thanks everyone for reading and attempting to help/or helping. Thanks.
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I just upgraded to the latest officially released ROM from HTC and AT&T (http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html).
And now there is even more bloat, such as AT&T Music and an animated startup.
We know, that is why many of us here use ROMs from the kitchen. That is where the bloat is removed. From PDA to high-end PC when it comes from the factory it will have bloatware installed.
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I just upgraded to the latest officially released ROM from HTC and AT&T (http://www.america .htc.com/support/8525 /software-downloads.html ).
And now there is even more bloat, such as AT&T Music and an animated startup.
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Wow...you catch on quick.
I suggest you try reading more.
Btw, you don't have to manually enter yout txt and voicemail settings..just go to "phone" "services" and "get settings" and that may not even be required, and its really simple to enter your data settings manually...but that would require reading also.
madmatt079 said:
I just upgraded to the latest officially released ROM from HTC and AT&T (http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html).
And now there is even more bloat, such as AT&T Music and an animated startup.
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Gee, ya think? That's why we keep repeating ourselves by telling you to update to one of the cooked ROMS here, since they're as basic as they come and you can add whatever CABs, or as you say "bloat", to your own personal liking. *sigh*
It sounds like a little confusion is happening. I see where the guy (girl?) is coming from. when you run the .exe file from HTC's website, it installs a basic image. When the device reboots, a "Batch file" runs that goes through a bunch of pre-loaded cabs installing a lot of extra apps (bloat). What madmatt079 did in the past was, right before the device says "customizing your phone" he/she hit the soft reset. This interupted the "batch file" prohibiting the cabs from being installed. Though the cabs were sitting in the wings waiting, they were never executed resulting in less "icons" on the screens. But, this also keeps some of the cingular specific settings from taking hold.
I understand his un-willingness to install a baked ROM. Doing it his soft-reset way gives him a warm fuzzy when it comes to keeping the phone stock, but not really stock you know. I think the correct answer here is the search feature. Either that, or let the ROM go all the way through, wirte your setting down on paper, then redo the ROM and stop it mid stream. The stuff will be there, just not fully installed.
Good luck with it.
madmatt079 said:
I just upgraded to the latest officially released ROM from HTC and AT&T (http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html).
And now there is even more bloat, such as AT&T Music and an animated startup.
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As it has been stated...the bloat is in the ROM...not the extended rom that runs after a hard resest.
here are the contents of the extended ROM:
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_Cingular_GoodEmail_081606.sa.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_getmail.htc8525.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_HSDPA_Wirelss_Modem_Stall.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\C_GetTeleNav.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\MT_PC_Hermes_PTT_REG_070129.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\PP_PIE_Default.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\ShortString_Keypad_XML.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\SMS_Setting_07Jun06.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\SPM_Fix_ITS#2990.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\PP_XpressMail_launchCamera.cab
CAB: \Extended_ROM\ppcquickstart_QVGA.PPC_Draft_11-17.CAB
CAB: \Extended_ROM\ST_Audio216Patch_20070409.CAB
None of these include the "music bloat" or start up screen.
One of the biggest advanatages of "Cooked Roms" is the stripping of the bloat. This is why cooked roms run faster and appear to be much more stable.
gr8hifi said:
It sounds like a little confusion is happening. I see where the guy (girl?) is coming from. when you run the .exe file from HTC's website, it installs a basic image. When the device reboots, a "Batch file" runs that goes through a bunch of pre-loaded cabs installing a lot of extra apps (bloat). What madmatt079 did in the past was, right before the device says "customizing your phone" he/she hit the soft reset. This interupted the "batch file" prohibiting the cabs from being installed. Though the cabs were sitting in the wings waiting, they were never executed resulting in less "icons" on the screens. But, this also keeps some of the cingular specific settings from taking hold.
I understand his un-willingness to install a baked ROM. Doing it his soft-reset way gives him a warm fuzzy when it comes to keeping the phone stock, but not really stock you know. I think the correct answer here is the search feature. Either that, or let the ROM go all the way through, wirte your setting down on paper, then redo the ROM and stop it mid stream. The stuff will be there, just not fully installed.
Good luck with it.
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Yeah, I figured that, and he's super lucky he didn't brick the phone. I had that happen to me doing what he did. Thankfully it was under warrenty and a new one was shipped a few days later.
I'm not going to comment on any one post in particular. However, there is no need to tell me to “try reading more”. This site is here for a purpose. Forgive me for not being an expert. That is exactly why I am here, so I can learn from the best.
As for those of you who have attempted to help me and offer me a starting point, thank you.
I now see what you are talking about regarding the soft resets and that the bloat is in fact included in the ROM (rofin44: I test upgrades against a second 8525 that is not on contract, but I need a stable build and that's why I usually go with official releases).
So instead of asking for more information on how to, I’d like to know which ROM you recommend for the Cingular 8525; preferably a basic ROM with no additional software but easy to install the settings needed from the Extended ROM. If that makes sense?
Thank you again.
Kaiser Rom
madmatt079 said:
Good afternoon, everyone. I am sure this have been covered before.
I own a Cingular 8525 and I am using the latest official release. I understand a new ROM will be released shortly and I'd like to know how to install the ROM without all the bloat that Cingular builds into it.
However, I need the custom settings, such as the settings for GPRS (I utilize Push) and other Cingular settings (such as TXT settings and voicemail) that are needed.
From what I gather you can soft reset before the custom installation, but that's where I need to know what to do to get the settings in place. I imagine from what I've read that this is easy but I can't find how others have done it.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I'd like to be able to print any help for future reference.
Thank you in advance.
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Please. You can send me this Rom, because I am with Kaiser locked in the screen three-colored and necessary of Rom Original that is same yours. Thank you very much.
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hmm
I honestly can not understand why you don't want to go to 'unofficial' release. The unofficial releases of 6.1 these days are just way better than the official ones. If you really want a semi official one you might want to try vp3g's ROM, however I am more than happy with CRC's.
My hermes only has 64 mb of RAM and 128 of ROM, I need the least amount of stuff in it yet I want stable so I can use it for my bizo. I have no need to have live search, as I don't live in the US, so I have a win win situation there.
Carriers make a good OS bad!
I would say CRC's v11.2 (v12.4 is faster, but there's glitches)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
If you want a faster phone at the cost of some ram, I would say put the pagepoll up to 8megs, ill stick the program for doing it onto the post.
I ran the ClearTemp software and it deleted the .lnk file or whatever it's called for my Outlook Contacts icon. So, I can no longer get into my Outlook Contacts. The icon for Outlook Contacts is gone both in the programs and the Start Menu. How do I get the file back, or create a new file? Where are these files located on the phone? They don't show file extenstions with File Explorer, so it makes it really hard to find anything. I can't even find a search feature to search for files. Thank you for your help and time.
Apota said:
I ran the ClearTemp software and it deleted the .lnk file or whatever it's called for my Outlook Contacts icon. So, I can no longer get into my Outlook Contacts. The icon for Outlook Contacts is gone both in the programs and the Start Menu. How do I get the file back, or create a new file? Where are these files located on the phone? They don't show file extenstions with File Explorer, so it makes it really hard to find anything. I can't even find a search feature to search for files. Thank you for your help and time.
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window folder.
FYI may be easier to install burt ed iContact 6.4.5
it will automatically make one as a back up
much nicer contact viewer
Well, my friend emailed me a copy of his Outlook Contacts.lnk file and I copied it into the Windows Programs folder and my icon came back. iContact actually comes pre-loaded in my ROM and I hate it and want to get rid of it, but I can't figure out how too. I'm using v0.94 and that's the latest version. I just realized you said iContact and not iContacts. Are they two different things? Thanks!
cyberhern said:
window folder.
FYI may be easier to install burt ed iContact 6.4.5
it will automatically make one as a back up
much nicer contact viewer
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Apota said:
Well, my friend emailed me a copy of his Outlook Contacts.lnk file and I copied it into the Windows Programs folder and my icon came back. iContact actually comes pre-loaded in my ROM and I hate it and want to get rid of it, but I can't figure out how too. I'm using v0.94 and that's the latest version. I just realized you said iContact and not iContacts. Are they two different things? Thanks!
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yes and no
iContacts somehow branched off into i think three.
the one i like is Burt Edition.
you should have a config shortcut (or icon as you called it)
go into it and look for a about tab, see which one you have.
If you know which edition you have you could download cab to ppc and run the install once it sees you already have it, it should ask you if you want to remove the install. after that it will ask you if you want it on your mm or your sd card or cancel. HIT CANCEL
If it is not BE you should someday try it. very good. very easy to find someone.
I went into the iContacts settings and there is no about tab, but it says in their iContact v0.8 - supware.net. I got the latest version and I did exactly what you said and did it said it was uninstalling it, and then I hit cancel before it installed the new version. I went back to my contacts and it's still there. Maybe because it's a part of the bios you can't remove it?
I tried to find the version that you said you have, but I can't find it any place. Do you know where you can find it at? Thanks!
cyberhern said:
yes and no
iContacts somehow branched off into i think three.
the one i like is Burt Edition.
you should have a config shortcut (or icon as you called it)
go into it and look for a about tab, see which one you have.
If you know which edition you have you could download cab to ppc and run the install once it sees you already have it, it should ask you if you want to remove the install. after that it will ask you if you want it on your mm or your sd card or cancel. HIT CANCEL
If it is not BE you should someday try it. very good. very easy to find someone.
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Apota said:
I went into the iContacts settings and there is no about tab, but it says in their iContact v0.8 - supware.net. I got the latest version and I did exactly what you said and did it said it was uninstalling it, and then I hit cancel before it installed the new version. I went back to my contacts and it's still there. Maybe because it's a part of the bios you can't remove it?
I tried to find the version that you said you have, but I can't find it any place. Do you know where you can find it at? Thanks!
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Look on the first page of my ROM threads. At the bottom of the Second Posts there is the version of icontact you are in need of. Install if and soft reset. Boom. Back to normal.
Why do I need that version of iContact and what does it do? I'm trying to get rid of iContact because I don't like it. I already fixed the problem of the Outlook Contact icon missing. Is this what you mean?
iContact v0.81 (The version that used to be in my ROMs)
Well, it says v0.8 in the iContact Settings, but v0.94 when I run iContact on my phone.
Thanks!
RyanMogul6800 said:
Look on the first page of my ROM threads. At the bottom of the Second Posts there is the version of icontact you are in need of. Install if and soft reset. Boom. Back to normal.
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Apota said:
Well, my friend emailed me a copy of his Outlook Contacts.lnk file and I copied it into the Windows Programs folder and my icon came back. iContact actually comes pre-loaded in my ROM and I hate it and want to get rid of it, but I can't figure out how too. I'm using v0.94 and that's the latest version. I just realized you said iContact and not iContacts. Are they two different things? Thanks!
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Thats because of your step in bold buddy. Did you maybe install another version? It says v.81 everywhere for me.. That is what I used to cook into my ROMs.
Apota said:
I went into the iContacts settings and there is no about tab, but it says in their iContact v0.8 - supware.net. I got the latest version and I did exactly what you said and did it said it was uninstalling it, and then I hit cancel before it installed the new version. I went back to my contacts and it's still there. Maybe because it's a part of the bios you can't remove it? I tried to find the version that you said you have, but I can't find it any place. Do you know where you can find it at? Thanks!
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How do you search? I just read your response.
Anyway, I just entered icontacts burt into the xda google and first hit had a link to his site. Tried icontacts be, same. Tried icontacts, thrird hit. Tried icontact on first page. Anyway his home page is
http://truburt.net/
Hi, I just would like to ask how you guys doing your BackUps of ypur TG01. I can see lots of as is traing different cooked rooms and i cnow how to restore my ow personal data like phone book, sms, email or so but how i can restore installed applications, software and all staff i had on my phone installed before i change the Room but with home screen or UI from the new Room.
I du not believe all of you is installing all applications aver again and again after you change the room with different UI like SPB or HTC Sence.
Thanks
Roman
Good question! I've always had the same curiosity, because as I have a lot of apps installed on my device and I need it for my private and professional life, I had never tested any ROM, not for the PIM dates (easy to recover from Pimbackup or the useful Microsoft MyPhone) but to avoid installing all the apps again!
Recently and to avoid this problem, I've bought a cheap screen scratched TG01 , just for testing roms!
But coming back to your question, I'm interested in the answer as well!
MarvX said:
Hi, I just would like to ask how you guys doing your BackUps of ypur TG01. I can see lots of as is traing different cooked rooms and i cnow how to restore my ow personal data like phone book, sms, email or so but how i can restore installed applications, software and all staff i had on my phone installed before i change the Room but with home screen or UI from the new Room.
I du not believe all of you is installing all applications aver again and again after you change the room with different UI like SPB or HTC Sence.
Thanks
Roman
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Pere said:
Good question! I've always had the same curiosity, because as I have a lot of apps installed on my device and I need it for my private and professional life, I had never tested any ROM, not for the PIM dates (easy to recover from Pimbackup or the useful Microsoft MyPhone) but to avoid installing all the apps again!
Recently and to avoid this problem, I've bought a cheap screen scratched TG01 , just for testing roms!
But coming back to your question, I'm interested in the answer as well!
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I will say the answer is VERY simple!!!
You just need a bit of help from cooks! It's tricky job but works mostly!
XDA_UC
This is an app that can be cooked within the ROM. Before you flash a new ROM, all you need to do is check if the ROM has XDA_UC or not. If your new ROM has XDA_UC, then simply create a folder in your SD card as "XDA_UC", without the inverted commas. In this folder add ALL your cabs. Once flash finishes, XDA_UC will autoinstall all cabs for you while you sit back, relax and enjoy your tea!
Now, I know you will want to be greedy like I do - 'What about my apps from marketplace?' - no luck there friends! But in market place you can choose to 'install all apps' once you log in - so it's not that time consuming either!
In my future ROMs you will definitely see XDA_UC. Also I am right now working on cooking XDA_UC in DruROM1, DruROM2, DruROM3: So look out for an edit soon
drupad2drupad said:
........ In this folder add ALL your cabs. Once flash finishes, XDA_UC will autoinstall all cabs for you while you sit back, relax and enjoy your tea!........
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Not bad, thanks for the trick, nevertheless, most of the apps need a register operation, and I'm afraid that this must be always "hand made"....
drupad2drupad said:
I will say the answer is VERY simple!!!
You just need a bit of help from cooks! It's tricky job but works mostly!
XDA_UC
This is an app that can be cooked within the ROM. Before you flash a new ROM, all you need to do is check if the ROM has XDA_UC or not. If your new ROM has XDA_UC, then simply create a folder in your SD card as "XDA_UC", without the inverted commas. In this folder add ALL your cabs. Once flash finishes, XDA_UC will autoinstall all cabs for you while you sit back, relax and enjoy your tea!
Now, I know you will want to be greedy like I do - 'What about my apps from marketplace?' - no luck there friends! But in market place you can choose to 'install all apps' once you log in - so it's not that time consuming either!
In my future ROMs you will definitely see XDA_UC. Also I am right now working on cooking XDA_UC in DruROM1, DruROM2, DruROM3: So look out for an edit soon
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woo! nice one drupad
thanks for letting us know about this app. it sounds so much better than having to individualy install!
Pere said:
Not bad, thanks for the trick, nevertheless, most of the apps need a register operation, and I'm afraid that this must be always "hand made"....
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olyloh6696 said:
woo! nice one drupad
thanks for letting us know about this app. it sounds so much better than having to individualy install!
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Guys, I have updated all 4 druROMs with AUTOCAB install now. You can add all your registry tweaks, your PIM back up files and your cabs that you wish to install (both those that need you to press something while installinga and those that dont!) in a single folder on your storage card and once you flashing my rom you can install all of it just by 3 clicks! (yes literally 3 - not counting scrolls)
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Guys, I have updated all 4 druROMs with AUTOCAB install now. You can add all your registry tweaks, your PIM back up files and your cabs that you wish to install (both those that need you to press something while installinga and those that dont!) in a single folder on your storage card and once you flashing my rom you can install all of it just by 3 clicks! (yes literally 3 - not counting scrolls)
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THats great! Will try it out soon on my next rom flash£
I recently updated my wife's phone and lost the memo app. I thought nothing of it, because I do not use it myself, but she is pretty disappointed about it being gone.
So, first my question - will the stock fascinate Memo app run on EB01?
and second my request - could someone hook me with a link to DL it? I have looked and looked to no avail. I have found the backup of it in Titanium Backup, but Restore is not an option (prompting the question of whether it can run in EB01), and I would really like to get it back for her.
I did find this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930430 but the link is dead... Likewise, I thought to use Rom Manager, however I have read that it is not compatible with the new CWM, and if I open it, it tell me I need to flash CWM, which I don;t think I should do on EB01 SC2.4V... Really at a loss on this.
Any assist is greatly appreciated.
nobody? nothing?
Did u try just extracting the apk and using root explorer and just dropping it into system/app folder and rebooting? I find this will work for most apps that wont install directly or through cwm.
Edit. Here is a link. Hope it helps.
http://db.tt/yElOyyG
sent from my fascinating fascinate eating delicious froyo.
I guess I am confused on that line - I have seen that recommendation for other apps and issues, but I do not know where to find the apk - that is where my issue really lies...
TB does show it listed, just no restore option, and I am unable to locate the apk anywhere - market or web (so far)
I do appreciate the look...
Posted a link to my dropbox
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exactly what I have been searching for - thank you so very much.
<ETA> how come you rock so hard? That was exactly the fix I was looking for and we are back to happy land. I sincerely appreciate the assist.
No problem
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My wife is the same way..she wanted the stock note app. But I finally convinced her to switch to color note because you can't restore the notes..so even if you get the app back..every time there is an update she will lose her notes.
Blackhole 4.2 on EB01 Froyo.
backup samsung memo database
this might be too little or too late for some of you but maybe not for others ..
I found the samsung fascinate memo stores everything in ...
/dbdata/databases/com.sec.android.app.memo/memo.db
if you have root access, you can copy this file to sdcard or through other method.
you can then restore it after you reimage (I assume you can) I haven't tried it yet. again I assume you need root to restore it ...
also - it is a SQLite database - so you can use "SQLite Database Browser by tabuleiro" on your PC to see all the notes. it's available on sourceforge.
click on second tab "Browse Data" - then choose table called "memo" and you will see all the memos show up in a table. double click each one and you can export, or just copy/paste.
probably a moderately skilled SQL admin can get all the data extracted with a few queries.
I was thinking of attempting to create an app that would back it up and restore or export. perhaps it could work with any db on the device.
Well since WM 6.5 is closed, I would say I should worry if I ever had to hard reset. So trying to secure myself now. Now I know how to back up the prefs and so, also have my other cabs that auto install. Its just those apps from Windows Market that I need a way to back up. Anyone have some insight into this and that could guide me to the right spot? Thanks. =)
backup entire rom with spb.
you should find all the apps on some of the forums if you google.
I never used the market as google found me the cabs & I kept the best builds of all my important apps.
Make a list if you need some & see if we can help ...
15-20$ app? Really? Is that the only real way?
you could use the cab extracted from asian rom