Hey everyone.
I read it on the wiki that flashing 1024mb Leo with 512mb Rom would certainly cause a brick, I also read those scary posts about phones dead even with HSPL flashed, so I ask a question: Is there something else you should NOT do besides what is written in RUU itself?
Is it possible to make some kind of tutorial "how not to brick HD2"
P.S. Sorry if it is already stated somewhere, but all I could find were posts about already bricked HD2s
Might sound like a stupid question for all advanced users, but i find its a very good question, because of course, bricking anything (unless its a real brick) is a real bummer!
So yeah, i was also wanting to know what NOT to do, and what things to avoid..
For example, i installed HSPL 3 with a 2.02SPL, people say i will have stability issues.. i didnt read about that in HSPL3 tutorial.. will those stabilioty issues possibly lead to a brick?
Also, installing HSPL 3 and then installing HSPL 2 will those things possibly brick an HD2? or to brick an HD2 you must really be doing crazy stuff, like
-flashing 1024 with 512 rom?
-flashing crazy custom & terribly cooked roms?
best advice I ever saw on here......
"Read Everything, Even If You Dont Understand It....... Then Read It Again"
this does not change anything, I read the stickies and flashing guides and still i could only find one definite how-to-brick: 1024 to 512 and vice versa
Anyone?
That was more of just a sort of general piece of advice.
Wasnt suggesting you need to do more reading...........
Its actually the radio that will brick the device.......
flashing a .51 radio to a tmous will brick it.
So .50 radios only. You'd probably be best to go for one above 2.08.50......
Most roms will reccomend a radio to use anyway.......
If you've read the stickys, got the right rom/radio/hspl and familiarised yourself with the process then theres not much that can go wrong.........
95% of the horror stories on here are down to people not doing their homework....
I dont understand this radio thingy... Why is it even changeable?
Who would want to tweak that (except cookers?) and why did they provide different radios?
How do i know, when i download a rom what radio is it? If i use always official roms, i have no risks, right? Can even stock roms have different radios?
Thx for answers!
Radio is a part of firmware (part of ROM if you please) that ensures the link between OS and radio (GSM, FM, BT, WIFI),I read somewhere that it somehow responsible for camera aswell...
zewill said:
I dont understand this radio thingy... Why is it even changeable?
Who would want to tweak that (except cookers?) and why did they provide different radios?
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A different radio can give you differences in things like reception and battery life....
zewill said:
How do i know, when i download a rom what radio is it? If i use always official roms, i have no risks, right? Can even stock roms have different radios?
Thx for answers!
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Custom roms usually do not come bundled with a radio. The chef nearly always recommends a radio to use with the rom.....
Stock roms come with a radio, which is normally shown as part of the file name....
ie. RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship
If your flashing a tmous with a stock rom you still have to make sure that it is a tmous rom........
Wow, thanks for those clear answers! Im starting to get it!
So.. say i download several roms:
ROM: 3.14.406.2 (on HTC website)
AND
RUU_Leo_HTC_NLD_1.66.404.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.0ΒΆ
7U_2.06.51.07_Ship (found on internet)
AND
Original HTC NLD 1.48.404.2 2.05.51.05_2 15.28.50.07U
How do i know the radio of the first rom?
And how do i know that the Radios of the 2 other roms ( Radio_Signed_15.30.50.0 7U_2.06.51.07_ and the last RADIO 2.05.51.05_2) are compatible? Indeed, they are different, so how do i know if i can install them without bricking my device???
Thanks again, guys for ur help and time
I didn't completely understand what you just wrote , but i somehow feel that answer to your post is what i'm looking for also
The 3.14 Rom you downloaded from the HTC site already has a radio so you wont need to worry about compatibility........
Just so I'm clear on this, which type of HD2 do you have? tmous / Standard (european) HD2 / Australian (Telstra) HD2.......
Im assuming it asked for an s/n number when you downloaded 3.14??
If it did and yours worked then you have an unbranded handset and you can go ahead and flash that Rom.
If you've flashed before you will need to remove HSPL.........
If not then ignore that...........
So in simple terms, ONLY the radio that contains .51 will brick a T-Mobile US HD2 phone, but .50 will be fine. Usually all [ROM] in the Rom thread will tell you if it's T-Mobile Compatible or not. And most of them don't have a radio built into it anyways.
Every Rom you download from HTC will contain the ROM, and RADIO, so before loading you must make sure it is for HTC T-Mobile US not UK, which is usually stated before you download as you have to put in your SN number before you're able to download.
If you are wondering more about what the function of a radio is etc. I recommend checking out this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Also I would highly recommend you read this as this will answer most of your questions about flashing roms etc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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I've spent the last few days reading wikis, guides and threads about upgrading my Tytn, but I still have a few questions:
This guide describes a method for preventing hard-SPL from being overwritten with another bootloader. If I understand it correctly, this is only a problem with original shipped ROMs, and not with the ROMs cooked by the people here. Is this correct? Can I upgrade with any of the custom ROMs here without worrying about overwriting the bootloader?
Are the radio ROMs country or region specific or can I use any radio ROM from all over the planet?
Can I run into any problems if I try to downgrade the radio ROM? If I remember correctly, there was a a lot of trouble with this in the old days when I played around with the ROMs on my Wallaby (and I still had the future ahead of me).
Olipro wrote HardSPL so that it wouldnt allow itself to be overwritten, as far as i know you can overwrite HardSPL by using SSPL (the software bootloader which runs in RAM and not from the devices flash memory area as a normal bootloader does).
Dont worry.... upgrade to HardSPL v2.10 and then you can flash any ROM you like. Some carrier RUUs wont recognise the newer SPL so might not be happy with it. Depends on what ROM you wish to use.
Radio ROMs are pretty much universal however the best ones generally acknowledged are 1.47 or 1.48 (any variant)....as newer ones are unstable and seem to use the battery alot more.
Thanks for a quick and informative reply, mrvanx. And for the brilliant guides!
However, your answer left me with a couple of other questions.
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Olipro wrote HardSPL so that it wouldnt allow itself to be overwritten
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If Hard-SPL cannot be overwritten, is there ever a need for the method I linked to in my previous post? Also - I thought one of the benefits with Hard-SPL was that it can be removed (and the original BL brought back to life) by flashing an official ROM.
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as far as i know you can overwrite HardSPL by using SSPL (the software bootloader which runs in RAM and not from the devices flash memory area as a normal bootloader does).
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If I understand you correctly, you're saying that if I really want to overwrite Hard-SPL, I can do so using the SSPL, but upgrading with custom ROMs having SSPL bundled with them won't mess up Hard-SPL?
Sorry if these are stupid questions, but I'm a bit afraid of bricking the Tytn I'm currently borrowing from a friend
Update to HardSPL....safe in the knowledge that you CAN revert it back to stock if you wish, the details arent necessary dude. Go for it....its the best thing to do even if you dont change the ROM since the latest radios take advantage of the faster radio flashing technique in later SPLs.
You DRAMATICALLY reduce the risk of bricking the device by flashing HardSPL first.
Were you planning on using any particular flavour of ROM?
I have a thing for details, but I'll take your word and flash the Hard-SPL
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Were you planning on using any particular flavour of ROM?
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Currently I have WM5, so any WM6 would probably be an improvement. I'm hoping to be able to play around a bit with different ROMs as soon as I feel pretty safe about bricking. Some of the light ROMs look very attractive, especially these ones: K's Rom v1.30a Lite, Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM and Shamanix`s Grass v2.2.
I would also like to try the full version of both Schap's and kin0kin's. Especially the last one because of the auto installation feature.
But I haven't looked closely at all the different ROMs yet, so there might be others that suits my needs better. My only prerequisite is .NET Compact Framework 3.5. If you have a favourite, let me know
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I have a thing for details, but I'll take your word and flash the Hard-SPL
Currently I have WM5, so any WM6 would probably be an improvement. I'm hoping to be able to play around a bit with different ROMs as soon as I feel pretty safe about bricking. Some of the light ROMs look very attractive, especially these ones: K's Rom v1.30a Lite, Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM and Shamanix`s Grass v2.2.
I would also like to try the full version of both Schap's and kin0kin's. Especially the last one because of the auto installation feature.
But I haven't looked closely at all the different ROMs yet, so there might be others that suits my needs better. My only prerequisite is .NET Compact Framework 3.5. If you have a favourite, let me know
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Pandora Naked 6, by far the fastest and is also very stable.
You can cook your own ROM....follow the instructions in the pandora kitchen thread...its REALLY easy.
I have an unlocked fuze.Today i want to install winmo 6.5.Can some one please tell me all the things i need.I have done a search,but i need directions that are simple to understand.Is there anyone that can walk me through this.Help please just an averege guy,im not a pro phone guy
Then you must have searched badly..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
i think i already have spl on my phone if so can i just flash the rom.if i flash a new radio will i get better reception,my phone wont work in the house
Flashing and SPL
If you have an unlocked Fuze, it does not mean that you have installed the hard Spl. Unlocked means that you are able to use your phone on any network, and you have the ability to flash non-raphael radios to your device. If you would like to flash a 6.5 rom to your Fuze, you need to flash the hard spl first, choose a rom, and flash your chosen rom. As far as signal goes, some roms work well with certain radios. Read the forums for the rom that you choose and see what kind of radio the chef recommends. Another thing that I can recommend is to go to the HTC website and take a look at the official update for the Fuze. This is a rom and a radio package that in my experience made my phone work much better than before. The update to the radio boosted my signal, and it unlocked the gps to work with any program since a stock Fuze gps works only with the At&t navigation program. All in all, the best advice I can give you is read up on the xda forums. The contributors on this forum are amazing and have put countless hours into turning our stock (crappy) Raphaels into real i-phone killers.
when its on blue,green,red boot screen it says spl 1.90. olinix
if you've flashed hard-spl, then you are ready to flash a rom.
yes, changing your radio could possibly result in improved reception. radios have different results for everyone and depends largely on where you live.
deadcpu already gave you the thread that has all the information you need. read it.
hello everyone i just bought a HTC HD2 from T-MOBILE i love it! now i want to install a custom rom but my HSPL version is 20.000.0. I heard i need to down grade HSPL? is this true
if its true how do i do so?
thanks alot this is my first post and am here to stay!!!
hemz said:
hello everyone i just bought a HTC HD2 from T-MOBILE i love it! now i want to install a custom rom but my HSPL version is 20.000.0. I heard i need to down grade HSPL? is this true
if its true how do i do so?
thanks alot this is my first post and am here to stay!!!
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i think you made a mistake typing your spl, i suspect its actuially 2.10.0000
use hspl3
if it really 20.000.0, then are you sure its a hd2??? hehe
oh, and be sure and do your rom search in THIS dedicated tmous (tmous = t mobile us, , you did mean from tmo us didnt you? your phone is different from all the other hd2s) section, you are currently in the regular hd2 thread, and not all roms are compatible.
ohh, yes its 2.10.0000 okay i'll download the HSPL 3 and install it and get back to you. thanks so much, yeah i mean't tmo us. oh i see there's regular hd2 and the tmobile hd2.. i see okay sorry am kinda new to all this. thank you so much.
no worries.
one word of caution, read a LOT before you start to flash, most things are recoverable, but the wrong radio will kill your phone, it will NOT be recoverable.
radios have versions of the form x.xx.5x.x
the red bit will always be either 50 or 51. You must NEVER flash a 51 radio.
See posts 1 and 2 HERE (the tmous radio thread) for a list of compatible radios.
(To be honest, you needn't worry about radios for a while yet, there is no need for you to change radios for teh roms you will be flashing, so get used to rom flashing before you start on radios.)
Happy flashing!
wow, this is exactly the type of thread i've been searching for. i, too, have a 1024leo (tmous hd2), with 2.10.0000. so is flashing a bad radio the only way to brick?
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wow, this is exactly the type of thread i've been searching for. i, too, have a 1024leo (tmous hd2), with 2.10.0000. so is flashing a bad radio the only way to brick?
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well wouldn't say the only way there are other such as losing power mid flash, But wrong radio on 1024 leos is a definite brick
I am attempting my first ever flash.
However, I am going to flash a cooked rom which is not compatible with my current radio. My first question is, do i have to flash the new radio first, and then the cooked rom, the other way around, or does the order not matter ?
Also, when i tried to flash the radio with cutomruu, when it confirmed what version to what version, it gave me my current roms version, and asked me if i wanted to update to the new radio version? shouldnt it give me old/new radio version?
can someone please help i really wanna get this done as soon as possible.
Thanks !
You need hspl first before you do anything . Then flash the radio , make sure it's a .50 never a .51 . After that do the rom . Most chefs (the people that make the roms) will recommend certain radios as they have tested the roms with these but really as long as it's a .50 radio it's really down to which one works best for you .
There are guides on flashing Roms at the top of the rom development page read it all carefully and you won't go wrong .
Hello, and Wellcome to the Forum.
1. you need HardSPL
2. If you have an Radio with an 51 like 2.07.51.2 then you need an Radio with an 50 Like 2.07.50.2 on most Roms
3. Flash the Radio befor the Rom
4. After Radio Flash you can go on with the Rom Flash.
Here are some infos more: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
All an top of the HD2 ROM Development you find the Sticky Post ther are more Infos.
Ghostrider
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If the new ROM is not compatible with the old radio, then definitely flash the new radio 1st.
The ROM installer is telling you the correct info. I would surmise it was designed for flashing ROMs, so it would always give you the current ROM version. However, the same software is used to flash radios.
Hope this helps. I viewed some Youtube videos before I flashed. There are some showing both a radio and ROM flash for the HD2.
Hi im new in the forum
i just got my htc hd2 and it have radio 2.10 spl 2.08 and hslp.... i was all over looking at the topics but i am confuse..
All roms have an special radio that is needed to be installed? what is the must supported radio for all roms? having installed the hspl3 will do the job no matter the radio or bow exactly i get to know what is the exact radio that the rom needs so i dont brick my phone?
sorry to bother with all questios. just want to be informed before i do all the stuff in the video tutorials i've seen.
thanks in advance for the help
Some Rom developers suggest that specific Radios can work well with their ROM. If you update your Radio to the latest 2.15.50.14 i think it would be up to date and you will never have any problems with it... I tried several Radios on several Roms and i don't see any problem with voice e.t.c
*-What is a Radio ROM?
* The Radio ROM is the software part of your device that is powering on/off and controlling your radio interfaces. This includes Bluetooth, 2G/3G Phone, WiFi, GPS..... And it also includes the OEMSBL (Radio BootLoader) and other device specific firmwares needed for using your radio interfaces and for interfacing them with the OS (Windows Mobile/Android).
.......So don't worry... You can't brick your phone with this if you follow the instructions on installation screen of course!
you can find the Radios here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
woah stop there. The OP has a tmous, and you linked him to the regular hd2 radio thread, which contains loads of radios that will destroy a tmous.
OP, go HERE , and in the tmous specific rom development thread you will find another radio thread HERE, which tells you all you need to know, about which radios you can and cant flash.
WOW! Didn't saw that! Sorry mate!
Thanks arkatis & samsamuel for the answers and help..
Will check the information on your links/ Thanks for the help responses