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I have a hardware locked vibrant. I cannot access recovery with my vol + / - buttons however I have found a way to enter download mode almost 100%
1. power off phone
2. While phone is powering off plug in power cable
3. hold -/+ volume
4. the phone enters d/l mode as soon as the charge connects
DOWNLOAD MODE!!!
but my question is. Is download mode sufficient enough for modding/romming my phone? Is access to Recovery needed or very important? Seeing as I can enter recovery with clockwork.
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wi11 said:
I have a hardware locked vibrant. I cannot access recovery with my vol + / - buttons however I have found a way to enter download mode almost 100%
1. power off phone
2. While phone is powering off plug in power cable
3. hold -/+ volume
4. the phone enters d/l mode as soon as the charge connects
DOWNLOAD MODE!!!
but my question is. Is download mode sufficient enough for modding/romming my phone? Is access to Recovery needed or very important? Seeing as I can enter recovery with clockwork.
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and how do you get out of dl mode? what happens if you get that pc and triangle screen? how will you put it to dl mode again with locked vibrant?
If you can get into dl mode you can get into recovery. Hardware locked means just that. They use the same key combo but different timing.
EDIT: nvm... I can't read lol.
I just pull battery to get out of d/l mode, however, recovery mode has not been obtainable. Regardless of which method i try. I have tried over 200+ times trying to get into recovery so im really confused. Think its safe to still Mod/Rom with only a d/l mode..
so if i can get into download mode. i should be able to get into recovery? because i can't get this damn to get into recovery via hardware buttons. but download works everytime
call tmobile, tell them your phone is defective (cant access boot recovery)... they will send you a replacement phone... profit
(i know, i did this)
wi11 said:
so if i can get into download mode. i should be able to get into recovery? because i can't get this damn to get into recovery via hardware buttons. but download works everytime
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I have this same problem...
You should be fine with just dl mode, tho most roms will be flashed trough recovery. In your case, I would keep your phone. You risk Tmo sending you a completely hw locked phone.
To get into recovery, you still have 2 options:
Rom Manager if your phone works fine or
'adb reboot recovery' in adb if you happen to get a boot loop (this is hit or miss)
If you happen to get the phone!computer screen while ODIN-flashing, dl mode is more than sufficient to restore... hope this helps
I wouldnt start flashing without recovery. I had the same issue and returned the phone. If you don't want to return it, you can always use odin to flash with download mode, but clockwork is much, much more convenient. Like I said tho, I would return it. The phone is defective.
If you can get to DL mode.. install Odin and flash to stock.. Get phone rooted.. Install ROM manager and flash any rom you want and your done.. A lot of users probelm is to get into DL mode.. but if you can get to it.. you shoul have not any problem falshing another ROM..
Download mode is the more important of the two.
If something goes horribly wrong, Download can save you where nothing else can.
As others have stated, as long as your phone is functional, you can always adb reboot recovery and get into the recovery menu to do whatever you need to ['adb reboot download' works as well, but if your phone isn't functional, you can access it]
yeah i bought my phone off CList. The phone has no warranty w/ Tmobile. But after calling Samsung warranty (AKA INDIA) I had to cause a fit and ask for a supervisor. they gave me a shipping label and said they would "Reflash" my phone. Is the issue with entering recovery mode = a software issue or hardware issue?. Now im reluctant in sending in my device because they may send me another locked one.
BTW thanks for all the info.
Both my phones (original then new waranteed) have the same issue. I flash roms/etc. but I am VERY careful when I do it...HW locked phones suck, and T-Mobile says it is not a defect--in essence, they said that function doesn't exist to them.
...riiiiiiight.
I'm just going to get straight to the problem here: my Atrix won't boot because something went wrong with a ROM I was trying to install. I was using the package from here Project kitchen sink, and selected aokp. I have Clockwork Recovery 5.8.1.8, so it boots into recovery.
The problem is that my volume rocker is broken, I *think* because of pds, so I cannot navigate the menu. I have tried using RSDLite and Fastboot, hoping that I could work through the recovery boot menu, but it's useless. And since my volume keys refuse to work, I can't set the phone to boot into RSD mode. I'm stuck in an endless loop of not-able-to-do-jack-****, and I don't think I'll be able to send it in to Moto for a replacement.
I don't know if the failure is due to a hardware issue (my Atrix was shipped to me from my family, since I live in Puerto Rico), the CM7 ROM I had before, or a recent crash (the battery was also giving me problems, and lately crashed the phone several times, not turning on unless I pulled it.)
Sparr159 said:
I'm just going to get straight to the problem here: my Atrix won't boot because something went wrong with a ROM I was trying to install. I was using the package from here Project kitchen sink, and selected aokp. I have Clockwork Recovery 5.8.1.8, so it boots into recovery.
The problem is that my volume rocker is broken, I *think* because of pds, so I cannot navigate the menu. I have tried using RSDLite and Fastboot, hoping that I could work through the recovery boot menu, but it's useless. And since my volume keys refuse to work, I can't set the phone to boot into RSD mode. I'm stuck in an endless loop of not-able-to-do-jack-****, and I don't think I'll be able to send it in to Moto for a replacement.
I don't know if the failure is due to a hardware issue (my Atrix was shipped to me from my family, since I live in Puerto Rico), the CM7 ROM I had before, or a recent crash (the battery was also giving me problems, and lately crashed the phone several times, not turning on unless I pulled it.)
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PDS does not affect volume buttons.
And what happens when you boot? Boot loop is not very specific...
I read a post on here that said it did...
And what happens is that it boots once, stays on the Moto logo, then blacks out, boots again and goes into recovery. Since I have no way to do anything, I press the power button and it goes again.
What I need is either
1) A way to work with RSD through the recovery, or
2) A way to work with ADB through recovery, or
3) Someone to just tell it to me straight: I'm f*cked and I need to send it in to Moto (Which I doubt they would take it.)
Sparr159 said:
I read a post on here that said it did...
And what happens is that it boots once, stays on the Moto logo, then blacks out, boots again and goes into recovery. Since I have no way to do anything, I press the power button and it goes again.
What I need is either
1) A way to work with RSD through the recovery, or
2) A way to work with ADB through recovery, or
3) Someone to just tell it to me straight: I'm f*cked and I need to send it in to Moto (Which I doubt they would take it.)
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I would tell you to flash touch recovery however I don't think you can and how it would help you recover from this situation.
Sent from my MB860 running Jokersax's CM9
The weird thing is that I had flashed touch recovery before I started with kitchen sink, and it fixed the touch problems I was having there, but now the touch doesn't work. I downloaded it from the clockwork website, because I don't want to pay for something that is available for free, and I flashed it in fastboot.
Now I have Clockwork Recovery 1.8, which should be touch, no?
Sparr159 said:
The weird thing is that I had flashed touch recovery before I started with kitchen sink, and it fixed the touch problems I was having there, but now the touch doesn't work. I downloaded it from the clockwork website, because I don't want to pay for something that is available for free, and I flashed it in fastboot.
Now I have Clockwork Recovery 1.8, which should be touch, no?
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You mean 5.8.1.8? If so then yes. And if touch is not working in touch recovery then it does sorta confirm you need the PDS fix...
We are finally getting somewhere: yes, it is 5.8.1.8, touch doesn't work. I know I need the PDS fix, and I applied it. Twice. I patched in fastboot before I started with kitchen sink, and I thought it had worked, since the Aroma installer was touch-enabled after I patched. But now the recovery menu is not working. I tried pressing the search key, like with the Aroma installer, but I knew it wouldn't have any effect.
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We are finally getting somewhere: yes, it is 5.8.1.8, touch doesn't work. I know I need the PDS fix, and I applied it. Twice. I patched in fastboot before I started with kitchen sink, and I thought it had worked, since the Aroma installer was touch-enabled after I patched. But now the recovery menu is not working. I tried pressing the search key, like with the Aroma installer, but I knew it wouldn't have any effect.
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Can you point me to the thread where it says volumer rocker is linked to pds because i searched and cant find it.
How are you booting...i mean with what key combination? Im assuming your booting normally(only power button) and end up going into recovery. Try booting with power button and volume down.
Sorry I'm not quoting anybody, first off.
Second, I can't find the link. I spent around an hour searching and found it through duckduckgo, but now I can't remember the search term I used. If I find it, I'll post it.
And yes, I'm booting only with power button, because the volume down key isn't working. That is where the pds problem comes in: I can't use the volume down or up key because the keys don't work.
My friend told me that I could use adb to manually boot it into fastboot mode. That works fine, but I don't know how to flash anything other than the recovery/pds partitions. I know fastboot has a "flashall" command, but I don't know how to use that or if it is even going to help. **Essentially** I can boot into fastboot mode, but I want to know if it is even possible to just flash a rom through that. Messy, of course, but if I can just get even a basic ROM working, I can go on from there.
I think you have 2 options:
1. if you can get to fastboot you can reflash everything using uncle cemka's method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501532
you basically take an .sbf unpack it and flash each part separately.
2. buy a atrix audio jack/camera flex cable from ebay and install it yourself, be especially careful when installing because the very small flex/ribbon that goes to your volume buttons stress fractures very easily if bent very much when installing, hence your volume buttons stop working.
I'm using cemka's method now. I'm waiting for the stock ROM to download, the one from his post. When I finish the whole process, I'll let you guys know how it worked out.
UPDATE: Thank you to whoever referred me to uncle cemka's method, I was able to use it to flash stock ROM. I have functionality back, can boot, and won't waste around $90 on a paperweight.
However, the first problem is still there: The volume keys still don't work. I still need to fix those before everything is %100 percent, so this issue is still open... Sorry guys
So i hoping someone could give me a hand i have exhausted all of my ideas
My Soft key buttons on the bottom of the phone (menu, home, back, search) have stopped working entirely phone is completely stock never rooted flashed or changed in anyway my first thought was maybe it was a software problem so i booted into recovery my holding vol +/- and power and tried to clear the cache (worth a shot right?) but in Samsung's infinite wisdom they use the Home soft key as select so i am unable to select wipe cache and naturally am unable to select Reboot system as well. i pull out the battery to restart the phone but to my horror the phone automatically reboots into the recovery screen... wtf! tried every combination of buttons physical and soft but i cant select anything in the recovery screen you name it i tried it short and long press of everything even tried booting holding different keys just for the sake of trying.
also tried to connect via adb while in recovery to send a "adb reboot" command but adb will not detect the device tried using every Samsung driver i could get my hands on maybe i am missing something here?
Next i tried rebooting with odin using an empty tar file as mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766399 but it only restarts to the... recovery screen.... for the love of god.
I'm out of ideas and any help would be appreciated i have no insurance and i have another year before I'm up for a renewal.
your phone sounds broken. deactivate it with VZW and go buy something else on swappa/ebay. (i personally recommend the S3, Gnex, or, **** you get another fassy if you want)
Hey dude, I have the stock Verizon ROM and boot loaders installing those should fix your problem and if you don't want to lose what's in your phone I'm afraid friend you're **** out of luck. Pm or call 423 400 6484 I'll give you the pass to the Google drive I use to send ROMs and such. Good luck.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using xda app-developers app
Seeing as the buttons don't work in recovery, what do you think will be fixed by clearing a cache? It's called recovery because it doesn't use that stuff.
Best bet? Try flashing a custom rom which had soft key support and enable them right away. With this phone's penchant for phantom key presses you may have just improved your experience with this phone by having them die.
Time to pony up and flash a real rom
Use Odin to flash a custom recovery, As the last poster said, flash a custom ROM with on-screen key options and use that from now on.
I never use my soft keys in recovery as the power button selects all the options I've ever needed. Have you tried using the power button to select on your phone?
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Hello. Today i wanted to change my OS on my S3. So i have done it, i wanted to do some upgrades like viper4android. I have broken volume up, so the only way to get into recovery is in android only. So, I installed it, and i have bootloop. I cant boot to fastboot (volume up needed), and ofcourse recovery. I can see only bootloop... I just have to boot into recovery. How to do that? Help, please. Thanks.
Does adb recognize your device? If so
adb reboot recovery
If you don't have adb then go get them via Google
snkmv said:
Does adb recognize your device? If so
adb reboot recovery
If you don't have adb then go get them via Google
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Well, i tried, but my phone isn't recognized on my pc. I just plug it into pc, and nothing. Tried on netbook, nothing . Dunno why. Its normal?
You have drivers installed?
I know this is an old thread, but I figured it'd be better to hijack it than create a new one.
A while back my phone started randomly freezing and rebooting, last week it just got into a bootloop instead, my volume up key isn't working, so I can't go into recovery-mode nor download-mode (since one has to press volume up to continue), I've tried to use adb, using a script to wait for a connection, then instantly freezing it so it can either send over a file or just boot into recovery, but it seems it doesn't boot up enough for a connection to start. I also tried removing my volume key and manually pressing the volume up key with both a toothpick and a screw-driver (just in case contact with metal would change the outcome), but didn't work. Has anyone found a solution?, Is there a way to boot into either recovery- or download-mode without the need to have the phone turned on first or using the volume up key?
I am new to android and this forum and viola, within few days, i was successfully able to practically ruin an android TV box. I did something wrong with the build.prop, and now it is stuck at android logo. Logcat shows signs of a loop. Something regarding memory allocation. I restored the build.prop and still the problem remains. I have no clue why that happens.
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Luckily I found a matching update.zip file. But all the tutorials to flash it needs me to have something to be done from the device’s side. But my device wont get to recovery mode by any way. (Don't know exact key combo, tried the usual combos. None works. Tried “reboot recovery”. Reboots to that android logo again and stuck.
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So, in short, the device is like dead and all that I can get right now is adb access. Can I use that update.zip just with this?
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This forum has been really awesome, go to try many things. Thank you.
@nirmalscaria
Phone must be successfully booted into Recovery Mode to flash an Update.Zip via ADB what requires phone's boot-loader got already unlocked.
jwoegerbauer said:
@nirmalscaria
Phone must be successfully booted into Recovery Mode to flash an Update.Zip via ADB what requires phone's boot-loader got already unlocked.
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That is sad. I tried all that I know to get to recovery mode.
1. There is no reset button.
2. The key press combo method :
——— Don’t know the exact combo for recovery
——— Tried the normal key codes, no response.
——— Is there any way to figure out the combo using adb? Is there any chance that
——-- there is some file in the device that indicate the combo? (I can do push and pull)
3. “reboot recovery” and “reboot fastboot” does restart the device but its again normal boot attempt.
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Anything to do now? It is sad to throw it away.